Cudder
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(10-14-2011, 05:30 PM)

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#1351

Jesus, how do you beat the Strider alien thing right before the final boss on the ship on Delta? does it just take a massive amount of damage?
Neuromancer
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(10-14-2011, 05:33 PM)

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#1352

Originally Posted by Cudder:
Jesus, how do you beat the Strider alien thing right before the final boss on the ship on Delta? does it just take a massive amount of damage?
Yep. Keep whaling on it with everything you've got. It'll go down.
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#1353

Originally Posted by Neuromancer:
Yep. Keep whaling on it with everything you've got. It'll go down.
Should I be going for the rocket launcher and keep using that? I don't think I have the minigun on me. Blahh.
Neuromancer
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(10-14-2011, 05:37 PM)

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Yeah use up that rocket launcher. The Gauss gun is real powerful too.

Save some gauss rounds for the final boss though. I found it came in handy.
Metal-Geo
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#1355

Originally Posted by Neuromancer:
If this game is a glorified tech demo, than I'd rather have more glorified tech demos like this (with open areas this big, optional objectives, and tactical gameplay), and less polished, scripted, super linear games like the Calls of Duty.
It's a tech-demo for how to do FPS properly. :)
Dacon
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#1356

Originally Posted by Cudder:
Jesus, how do you beat the Strider alien thing right before the final boss on the ship on Delta? does it just take a massive amount of damage?
I took it out with the minigun. Find a nice hunk of ship and hide behind it in armor mode when it fires its big blast and pound away at its face with the minigun and he'll be dead in minutes.
Blue Ninja
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#1357

Yeah, there's a crashed dropship you can effectively hide behind, though the Walker will occasionally shoot behind it and one-shot you. Just pound it with Minigun and Gauss rounds and it'll drop eventually.
Warm Machine
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Going from Crysis 1 into my near ending save of Crysis 2 the delta between the two games in gunplay, ease of use, visuals, and enemy hit reactions is very apparent. Crysis 2 does all of it better than Crysis 1. However, the trade off is the lack of more open environments and that is only due to the type of technology being used...terrain vs. static geo.

Crysis 2 got way too much flak for its design than it really deserved.
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#1359

Originally Posted by Warm Machine:
Going from Crysis 1 into my near ending save of Crysis 2 the delta between the two games in gunplay, ease of use, visuals, and enemy hit reactions is very apparent. Crysis 2 does all of it better than Crysis 1. However, the trade off is the lack of more open environments and that is only due to the type of technology being used...terrain vs. static geo.

Crysis 2 got way too much flak for its design than it really deserved.
Yeah, I never get why people bash Crysis 2. It felt so much more refined & polished over the first.
Having a city environment over a jungle environment does equate to "dumbing" the game down.
If anything the jungle got boring & monotonous over it's course.
Blue Ninja
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Yeah, the only thing I don't like about Crysis 2 is its shitty story. Gameplay-wise it's a goddamn amazing accomplishment.
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I also love Crysis 2. It felt significantly more polished than Crysis and still offered plenty of ways to play. It is let down somewhat by poor AI and a weak story. If the AI could have been beefed up and the story completely different it would have been one of the years best.

I thought the switch to a city environment was a nice change for Crytek. No, it wasn't as open as the original, but it was still FAR more open ended than most other shooters. I thought they struck a perfect balance between linearity and openness.

It was also the very first time Crytek was able to leave the jungles behind. Their three previous games focused entirely on this tropical theme and I'm glad to see them try something new. Visually, Crysis 2 is the most impressive looking game they've ever made even if it isn't quite delivering as much detail as the original.
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#1362

OK...after never finishing Crysis on my PC, I bit the bullet and just finished downloading it off PSN because I thought sitting in my living room playing might come a bit easier than running the game on my PC with a 4870.

I don't figure I'll miss much graphically, and I played it with a 360 controller on my PC.

Let me see if I enjoy it more.
Cudder
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#1363

Originally Posted by Blue Ninja:
Yeah, there's a crashed dropship you can effectively hide behind, though the Walker will occasionally shoot behind it and one-shot you. Just pound it with Minigun and Gauss rounds and it'll drop eventually.
I don't have the minigun with me :(. Can I pick it up somewhere on the surface of the ship? I'll try again tomorrow.
Blue Ninja
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#1364

Originally Posted by Cudder:
I don't have the minigun with me :(. Can I pick it up somewhere on the surface of the ship? I'll try again tomorrow.
There's one (and a few boxes of ammo) just in front of the crashed VTOL. You can even grab 'em while you're hiding behind it.
Xplatformer
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#1365

If you have a PC with at least a 4870...get the PC version and connect a 360 controller to it.


If you
1) don't have a graphic card at least as powerful as a 4870
2) don't game on your PC at all

...get this game.

Personally, it's just as fun to "play" as the PC version, but DAMN visually. This game guarantees I buy a 6870 with my next paycheck.

Great value for $20 over PSN, but a better value on PC.
I H8 Memes
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#1366

Can't believe anyone is taking the tech demo joke seriously.

Console gamers always threw that stupid phrase around about Crysis on PC. Poor art direction and felt like a tech demo. They all seemed to have a friend with a super awesome PC that allowed them to actually play it so they could make their well informed opinion.

I just found it odd that I hadn't heard a single person say that about the console version. Crytek must not have ported the tech demoness over. They cut it out along with the VTOL level.
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(10-14-2011, 09:04 PM)

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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes:
Can't believe anyone is taking the tech demo joke seriously.

Console gamers always threw that stupid phrase around about Crysis on PC. Poor art direction and felt like a tech demo. They all seemed to have a friend with a super awesome PC that allowed them to actually play it so they could make their well informed opinion.

I just found it odd that I hadn't heard a single person say that about the console version. Crytek must not have ported the tech demoness over. They cut it out along with the VTOL level.
Ah I see. It was a lampoon!
scitek
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes:
Can't believe anyone is taking the tech demo joke seriously.

Console gamers always threw that stupid phrase around about Crysis on PC. Poor art direction and felt like a tech demo. They all seemed to have a friend with a super awesome PC that allowed them to actually play it so they could make their well informed opinion.

I just found it odd that I hadn't heard a single person say that about the console version. Crytek must not have ported the tech demoness over. They cut it out along with the VTOL level.
I just wanted to quote your name because you set it up perfectly.
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#1369

Originally Posted by Neuromancer:
Ah I see. It was a lampoon!

No. It was a joke.
Dacon
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Originally Posted by dark10x:
I also love Crysis 2. It felt significantly more polished than Crysis and still offered plenty of ways to play. It is let down somewhat by poor AI and a weak story. If the AI could have been beefed up and the story completely different it would have been one of the years best.

I thought the switch to a city environment was a nice change for Crytek. No, it wasn't as open as the original, but it was still FAR more open ended than most other shooters. I thought they struck a perfect balance between linearity and openness..
Wasn't just the AI and the story for me.

The limitations of the suit and its capabilities was a huge letdown for me. There was too much linearity as well, the confines of the city weren't that interesting for me, and I often find myself handling encounters in the more common and effective methods.

There just wasn't really any room for a lot of experimentation like the original.
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes:
No. It was a joke.
I see. I guess it required the background knowledge of like 4 years of PC gamer vs console gamer resentment that I was completely unaware of. I'm sure it was very funny though.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer:
I see. I guess it required the background knowledge of like 4 years of PC gamer vs console gamer resentment that I was completely unaware of. I'm sure it was very funny though.

I'm overwhelmed with resent. I have a box next to my pc full of 6x9 cards with the name of every person on the internet who ever called Crysis a tech demo.
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Haha
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Originally Posted by diffusionx:
I... don't agree with that. I got through Assault last night and this game is amazing. It came out right around MW1 and I really wish this game became the template. It hasn't aged a day and has quickly become one of my favorite FPS games.
Well I haven't played it on the harder difficulties yet, so I'll probably like it more before I'm done with it. After playing it on normal though I'd say its a great game but I'm not ready to put it up there with the likes of Half Life/Halo/Bioshock just yet.
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Digital Foundry Crysis Face-Off: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...rysis-face-off

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So all told, a clear preference has been made to optimise the console versions in favour of visual fidelity over performance, although this ultimately works out better for the 360 version.
NBtoaster
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#1376

Hmm, so Crytek UK did this?

Didn't expect the PS3 performance to be that much worse than 360.
Blue Ninja
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Man, the sound and music really cut out a lot during the 360 version. A song'll be playing and suddenly stop, taking all background sounds with it. Bye beach sounds, bye creepy alien lair sounds. Nothing. It's really buggy.
Tunavi
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I'm playing on Delta, just finished the first level. I had a standoff with 6 enemies, and we just totally demolished one of the little huts during the firefight. Another cool moment was when I cloaked behind a group of enemies huddled around an explosive barrel (lol) and it blew them all to pieces.
This game rocks, glad I'm finally able to play it.
scitek
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#1379

Originally Posted by NBtoaster:
Hmm, so Crytek UK did this?

Didn't expect the PS3 performance to be that much worse than 360.
Apparently neither did Crytek Frankfurt. Massive layoffs incoming.
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Lovely game. Very fun to play.

Only bit: the dynamic range on the sniper is a little too much, I almost jumped out of my seat when I fired it, the volume of it is 3x louder than any other gun. My neighbours probably didn't like that, neither did my eardrums.
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Originally Posted by Blue Ninja:
Man, the sound and music really cut out a lot during the 360 version. A song'll be playing and suddenly stop, taking all background sounds with it. Bye beach sounds, bye creepy alien lair sounds. Nothing. It's really buggy.
It's the same on the PS3. The music, as nice as it is, comes in and cuts out at the most odd and abrupt times. Wasn't sure if it was supposed to be like that or it was just me confusing the games sound cues with some of the unorthodox routes I was taking through the levels :)
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Originally Posted by Rainy Dog:
It's the same on the PS3. The music, as nice as it is, comes in and cuts out at the most odd and abrupt times. Wasn't sure if it was supposed to be like that or it was just me confusing the games sound cues with some of the unorthodox routes I was taking through the levels :)
I just finished it. Good game a lot of fun and very impressive. First thing I noticed though was the old style weapon sway when walking. Games nowadays kinda bob up amd down, not sway side to side. The music is just bad and the cutting in and out is normal I'm afraid. Happens to me on 360 and it happened to my wife on PC.
Rainy Dog
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Originally Posted by Dark Octave:
I just finished it. Good game a lot of fun and very impressive. First thing I noticed though was the old style weapon sway when walking. Games nowadays kinda bob up amd down, not sway side to side. The music is just bad and the cutting in and out is normal I'm afraid. Happens to me on 360 and it happened to my wife on PC.
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, it's things such as the weapon sway that make it feel unique and stand apart from most of today's FPS. I found the whole experience very refreshing and is definitely one of my favourite FPS games of recent years. If not all time thinking about it...

It even inspired me to give the sequel another playthrough immediately afterwards and I'm appreciating that more than I did the first time round too. I enjoyed it anyway, but I'm using the suit to much better effect after experiencing the first game plus using much more pre-analysis and planning of approaches. I'm taking different routes to pretty much every situation than the first time around which is a credit to the game that I can even do that. It's obviously less open ended than the original, but still allows for much more strategy in how you get from A to B than the average FPS nowadays.
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Originally Posted by Rainy Dog:
It's the same on the PS3. The music, as nice as it is, comes in and cuts out at the most odd and abrupt times. Wasn't sure if it was supposed to be like that or it was just me confusing the games sound cues with some of the unorthodox routes I was taking through the levels :)
It definitely wasn't like that on the PC. The music engine was very good at keeping music going when it had to.
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#1385

PC vs 360 comparison @1080p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcKLjgWl7tM

My reactions to art direction:

Every PC scene : )

Every 360 scene : (

Since Crysis, Crytek have gone worse and worse, art direction wise.
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Originally Posted by -SD-:

Since Crysis, Crytek have gone worse and worse, art direction wise.
Wat. I think Crysis 2 looks very nice artistically, and leagues better than the strewn together copypaste jungles of the first game.
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Lighting-wise, I really prefer the look of the console versions. The PC version often looked bland. I don't even remember the Onslaught level looking so foggy and meh on the PC version as it looks in that video, it's crazy.
(I do like the way Exodus looked on PC better, though.)

Texture-wise, there's no denying the PC's the stronger one, but really, did we need a video comparison to realize that?

That video showcases how good of a job Crytek's done on porting this game, bugs notwithstanding. It's mind-blowing.
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JB1981
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(10-16-2011, 01:55 PM)
#1388

The bloom, high contrast lighting in 360 version really is worse
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#1389

Originally Posted by lemmykoopa:
Lovely game. Very fun to play.

Only bit: the dynamic range on the sniper is a little too much, I almost jumped out of my seat when I fired it, the volume of it is 3x louder than any other gun. My neighbours probably didn't like that, neither did my eardrums.
Ha, same happened to me. The audio mix in general is all over the place.

One sound that they really nailed, that most shooters overlook, is really satisfying bullet impact sound effects. It makes the enemies feel solid; like they have mass. Headshot sounds are especially good.
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After hearing the horror stories of Crysis 2, I'm finally getting around to playing it on the PC. I do miss the jungle, but the gunplay and control design (ie: "e" for stealth and "q" for strength instead of "lean") is outstanding. The stealth shotgun is fantastic.

Of course, my experience may be influenced by the DX11 support and the mega-texture pack.
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#1391

Originally Posted by JB1981:
The bloom, high contrast lighting in 360 version really is worse
It makes jaggies more apparent too. To me, it looks better in some cases and worse in other.
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Originally Posted by Blue Ninja:
Lighting-wise, I really prefer the look of the console versions. The PC version often looked bland.
Yea but does anyone actually play the vanilla PC version? Even my first playthrough was modded. Never played the vanilla version once, wouldn't even be able to tell ya what it looks like. My current Crysis install consists of Mster 3.01, custom autoexec, Silent's HiRez foliage, Advanced AI mod, Xzero's shaders, custom nanosuit, weapon and vehicle skins.

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That video showcases how good of a job Crytek's done on porting this game, bugs notwithstanding. It's mind-blowing.
Agreed, they have done quite an amazing job and I'm glad that everyone now gets a chance to enjoy this game.
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I'm playing it vanilla and with everything on Medium. That's all my C2D can handle.
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Originally Posted by JB1981:
The bloom, high contrast lighting in 360 version really is worse
Plus the blue tinted ToD. Yuck! :/

Originally Posted by XOMTOR:
Yea but does anyone actually play the vanilla PC version?
I do. Vanilla looks best. I've tried out tons of mods and always go back to the default look of Crysis.
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Originally Posted by Curufinwe:
I'm playing it vanilla and with everything on Medium. That's all my C2D can handle.
You'd may be surprised what you could get Crysis to run like with some mods. I think CCC (or is it CUDAATS now?) has a config included for medium settings. May possibly make the game look better and run smoother at the same time. Most of Crysis' heavy performance hit comes from LOD, Shaders and shadows. And even within those groups, only a few settings are the real performance hogs.

The problem with simply choosing "medium" in-game is that Crytek turned down way more Cvars than was really needed for each setting. I'm sure there's a good medium autoexec out there that may even net you a few more fps.
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#1396

Just finished it on the 360 :D Really enjoyed it.
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I always play Crysis PC with default TOD. I've tried different light mods and I always go back to Vanilla. That video made the console lighting look completely horrible and just ugly, contrast was all over the place. Shit look like a box crayons exploded, and that bloom dear god it's like 20 nukes went off in the sky.
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Originally Posted by -SD-:
PC vs 360 comparison @1080p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcKLjgWl7tM

My reactions to art direction:

Every PC scene : )

Every 360 scene : (

Since Crysis, Crytek have gone worse and worse, art direction wise.
Wow. Everything that is bad about "next-gen" effects is there, distilled, purified and smeared all across the screen. Totally overdone contrast, nonsensical blur, pores and dripping humidity on every surface. Ewwwwwww.
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I actually like how saturated the green of mother nature looks in the Remastered version. On the PC, everything blends way too much. Unless, of course, you use modified color grading and/or ToD. But the Remastered version definitely suffers from a lot of crushed blacks and way-too-bright spots. And the sky in the Remastered version is... yugh.

I think the perfect Crysis would be a blend between the too. :P
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Originally Posted by Rolf NB:
Wow. Everything that is bad about "next-gen" effects is there, distilled, purified and smeared all across the screen. Totally overdone contrast, nonsensical blur, pores and dripping humidity on every surface. Ewwwwwww.
I'm not sure if that's sarcastic or not.

The PC version looks so flat & devoid of any lighting & reflective mapping that in some parts it looks like it's using technology built for PS2/Xbox era of games.

The super graphic heavy mods on the PC absolute destroys the improvements that Crytek made for the console & they're all just expanded effects of what the 360/PS3 got.