Ashhong
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Originally Posted by Ecto311: View Post
I understand that but I have heard a lot of sites and people here say there is lag compared to cheaper older phones. Just don't want to be locked in for 18 months with a phone that isn't performing as well as phones a year older than it.

I do have 30 day and hopefully that's enough time to pick between the oneX, s3, or s2 with cm9.
That kind of lag (scrolling and web browsing) can probably be fixed by software, but don't take my word on that.

I still think, especially for your uses, the S2 would have been a great pick. It's free! Take that 200$ saved and buy yourself something nice.
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Does anyone own an Xperia Ray or Arc? Have you updated to ICS yet? Cause I've updated to ICS, also did a factory reset but it's not running as flawless as I hoped. Not sure if it's placebo, but I think when I was on Gingerbread it was smoother.

Am I forced to go all hacky? Right now I didn't root anything and I like to keep the Sony UI. Is there a way for me to speed things up?

I can live with a little bit of stutter with main screen scrolling (I like using the Cosmic Flow background), but shooting 720p video is not properly smooth, which is bugging me the most.

Edit: wow, after searching on Google for solutions, apparently if you disable video stabilization the recording turns back to smooth. Answer found here in the OP Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1569309. Tested it and it's true, I can record perfectly now. I choose shaky cam over choppy framerates any day!
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Ashhong
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I'm sure there are plenty of ROMs with the Sony UI and increased performance
shinshoryuken
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Originally Posted by kinggroin: View Post
Does forcing gpu acceleration help any?
Nope, still lags..
Ashhong
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Originally Posted by shinshoryuken: View Post
Nope, still lags..
Stock ICS browser and Chrome? That sucks lol
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Originally Posted by Divvy: View Post
So apparently the Galaxy Note 10.1 might be getting a brand new Mali GPU along with the new quad core cpu:



http://blog.gsmarena.com/a-benchmark...axy-note-10-1/
Just to update this information, some are speculating that this means it's getting a high res screen now. I can't wait for this thing to be released.
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Originally Posted by Ashhong: View Post
Stock ICS browser and Chrome? That sucks lol
Yup still laggy.... But better than the stock POS browser...
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Weird, I'm not getting any lag on my One X.
shinshoryuken
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Originally Posted by prowler_: View Post
Weird, I'm not getting any lag on my One X.
I'm comparing it to the galaxy nexus and s2... both are very smooth compare to the one x.

Try pinching to zoom in and out...it does this weird flicker after zooming in and out..
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Originally Posted by Divvy: View Post
Just to update this information, some are speculating that this means it's getting a high res screen now. I can't wait for this thing to be released.
Don't do that. Don't get my hopes up. Argh
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Originally Posted by shinshoryuken: View Post

Try pinching to zoom in and out...it does this weird flicker after zooming in and out..
Pretty sure that's it reflowing the page.
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Originally Posted by kharma45: View Post
Pretty sure that's it reflowing the page.
Pretty sure you're right.

I've seen tons of videos and read tons of forum posts and I've never heard anything about lag in the browser. Looked fine to me in person.
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Woah if true!

Originally Posted by The Verge:
Google's apparently ready to greatly expand its Nexus program: the Wall Street Journal is reporting that the company plans to give multiple device OEMs early access to future versions of Android and sell those devices directly to consumers. The full portfolio of new Nexus-class devices will reportedly be available by Thanksgiving.
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5 OEMs?

Samsung, HTC, Sony, Motorola, LG?

Maybe Asus instead of LG.
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Originally Posted by Toki767: View Post
5 OEMs?

Samsung, HTC, Sony, Motorola, LG?
Nokia.

Believe
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Originally Posted by OriginalThinking: View Post
That pretty much seals June 2014 for a Galaxy Nexus Jelly Bean update.
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So getting an Xperia Nexus if true!
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Originally Posted by kharma45: View Post
Pretty sure that's it reflowing the page.
yeah..but kinda anoying

Originally Posted by DMeisterJ: View Post
Pretty sure you're right.

I've seen tons of videos and read tons of forum posts and I've never heard anything about lag in the browser. Looked fine to me in person.
no mean unusable....but coming from the gnex, I was pretty disappointed.

did some research and other people feels the same way..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1634437
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That nexus news sounds amazing! HTC and Sony, go go go!
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Originally Posted by OriginalThinking: View Post
I fucking called it. That Google will let multiple companies make a "nexus" device.

I also said that these multi-manufacturer nexus devices would have more or less the same internals and that they would have to give you the option between stock and skinned android. We'll see if that comes true.
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Originally Posted by Toki767: View Post
5 OEMs?

Samsung, HTC, Sony, Motorola, LG?

Maybe Asus instead of LG.
Huanwei instead of LG, anyone ahead of LG.
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Would love to see manufacturers competing on hardware rather than shitty skins.
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Originally Posted by shinshoryuken: View Post
yeah..but kinda anoying



no mean unusable....but coming from the gnex, I was pretty disappointed.

did some research and other people feels the same way..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1634437
Can you not turn it off?
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Originally Posted by Copernicus: View Post
That pretty much seals June 2014 for a Galaxy Nexus Jelly Bean update.
And another 6 months if you are on Verizon amirite?
xtop
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Originally Posted by Al-ibn Kermit: View Post
I fucking called it. That Google will let multiple companies make a "nexus" device.

I also said that these multi-manufacturer nexus devices would have more or less the same internals and that they would have to give you the option between stock and skinned android. We'll see if that comes true.
nexus device means no skin, but i see what you're getting at
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I have no interest in buying a phone unlocked. Hope these Nexus phones will be available through carriers as well.

I mean... is there any point of buying unlocked if you live in one city and don't travel? How does that even work? You just pay someone month to month for service instead of a 2 year contract?
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Originally Posted by Futureman: View Post
I have no interest in buying a phone unlocked. Hope these Nexus phones will be available through carriers as well.

I mean... is there any point of buying unlocked if you live in one city and don't travel? How does that even work? You just pay someone month to month for service instead of a 2 year contract?
Pretty much. That and tethering is free without rooting your phone.
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Originally Posted by Futureman: View Post
I have no interest in buying a phone unlocked. Hope these Nexus phones will be available through carriers as well.

I mean... is there any point of buying unlocked if you live in one city and don't travel? How does that even work? You just pay someone month to month for service instead of a 2 year contract?
Well if you live in Europe it is often cheaper to buy unlocked and run a sim only. Plus it means you don't have to wait for carrier approved updates. Plus you aren't trapped into something for 2 years. So you can sell your phone after a new year and use it to fund your new Nexus. That's what I've done.

So yeah lots of benefits. If you don't want unlocked phones no one is forcing you to buy one :-/
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Originally Posted by kharma45: View Post
Can you not turn it off?
I set my browser default to something else. The firefox beta seem to be really smooth on it.

the HTC one x stock browser is really a POS...even double tapping to zoom it will do that flicker thing/text wrapping thing or what ever you call it...
basic_element
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Originally Posted by Divvy: View Post
Huanwei instead of LG, anyone ahead of LG.
Why? Considering the biggest weakness of LG is their software and update support, having stock android would mitigate that weakness.
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Originally Posted by basic_element: View Post
Why? Considering the biggest weakness of LG is their software and update support, having stock android would mitigate that weakness.
Personal bias. I have yet to be impressed by anything LG has done in the smartphone space. I used to have an LG shine flipphone back in the day, really solid phone, but they haven't made anything spectacular since that would cause me to pick their device over anyone else's. I also consider their hardware to be a weakness too (external not internal).
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i added an acer iconia a200 with my transformer 3 today. iconia is like a tablet for kids :/
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Originally Posted by OriginalThinking: View Post
Well if you live in Europe it is often cheaper to buy unlocked and run a sim only. Plus it means you don't have to wait for carrier approved updates. Plus you aren't trapped into something for 2 years. So you can sell your phone after a new year and use it to fund your new Nexus. That's what I've done.

So yeah lots of benefits. If you don't want unlocked phones no one is forcing you to buy one :-/
There just isn't a lot of value to buying an unlocked phone in the US unless you are on a small regional carrier. Sprint and Verizon don't allow unlocked phones on their network. I think T-Mobile is the only one of the big nation-wide carriers that even offers a discount for prepaid phones.
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Originally Posted by shinshoryuken: View Post
I set my browser default to something else. The firefox beta seem to be really smooth on it.

the HTC one x stock browser is really a POS...even double tapping to zoom it will do that flicker thing/text wrapping thing or what ever you call it...

That's odd, because the Firefox beta still scrolls choppy.
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Originally Posted by tokkun: View Post
There just isn't a lot of value to buying an unlocked phone in the US unless you are on a small regional carrier. Sprint and Verizon don't allow unlocked phones on their network. I think T-Mobile is the only one of the big nation-wide carriers that even offers a discount for prepaid phones.
That's fair enough, but the world doesn't begin and end at the shores of the US of A, and at least Google are allowing you to purchase a phone carrier free, rather than giving you no choice at all. Why anyone would complain at being given a choice is beyond me, no-one is being forced to buy handsets unlocked and I'd still expect Nexus phones to be sold by carriers. I think the Verizon experience with the Galaxy Nexus and Google Wallet caused them to re-assess their plans for Nexus devices. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus has hurt the Nexus brand and I'm not sure that they want to be put in that position again, and a subsidised Nexus range sold direct would give them a little more leverage.

Customers seem to be treated badly in the US, partly because of the CDMA/GSM split. You pay a small fortune for mobile contracts compared to us, yet only AT&T and Verizon seem to make any kind of profit which should be worrying. The regulators need to step in to ensure a consistent 4g standard across networks with inter-operable hardware with removable sims whatever fashion they might be in. Then you might get the competition that seems so desperately lacking.
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*whistles*

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/15/30...fringing-apple
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Extortionists.
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The Evo 4G LTE is affected as well.
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FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sigh.
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Evernote just got a big update to fit in with ICS and it's gorgeous. Well worth checking out.

As for this ban on the most trivial of patents, ridiculous...
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Originally Posted by tokkun: View Post
There just isn't a lot of value to buying an unlocked phone in the US unless you are on a small regional carrier. Sprint and Verizon don't allow unlocked phones on their network. I think T-Mobile is the only one of the big nation-wide carriers that even offers a discount for prepaid phones.
Nonsense. Unlimited talk/text/data on either the AT&T or T-Mobile network for $45 a month. You will easily recover the initial premium of buying unlocked.
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That's odd, because the Firefox beta still scrolls choppy.
Have you updated your Firefox today? The first beta with the new interface was just released. And are you running ICS? From my testing of the nightly builds scrolling on ICS is much better than on Gingerbread right now. Opera is just the opposite. Run it if you're on Gingerbread but I wouldn't recommend it on ICS, it's choppier.
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Originally Posted by OriginalThinking: View Post
Evernote just got a big update to fit in with ICS and it's gorgeous. Well worth checking out.
Has anyone used the web clip application? Does it work just like the Chrome plugin? At the moment I'm just saving off the URL to Evernote and clipping on my desktop later...
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apple can eat a dick. I hope someone blocks their new phone launch week.

I've found the pros and cons of the transformer 3 and iconia. Iconia has haptic feedback while the tf3 doesn't. sad panda.
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apple can eat a dick. I hope someone blocks their new phone launch week.

I've found the pros and cons of the transformer 3 and iconia. Iconia has haptic feedback while the tf3 doesn't. sad panda.
If i were Samsung, i would file a patent suit a day before the unveiling.
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If i were Samsung, i would file a patent suit a day before the unveiling.
ultra comboooooooo
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So glad my update is this August. One of dem new Nexus' will be mine. Verizon don't fail me.
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So glad my update is this August. One of dem new Nexus' will be mine. Verizon don't fail me.
I think you will be disappointed.
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So I was fooling around with the blacklist option on my Galaxy SII and added a contact to the blacklist, but now I can't receive calls from said contact even though I've already cleared my blacklist. Got any idea how I can fix this?
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comm...ures_in_1980s/

Why isn't Apple being charged like Microsoft was once for anti competitive practices?