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ULTROS! · 06:22 PM

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/13...sone-classics/

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PlayStation Vita is backwards compatible with downloadable PSP games. So, you can play Akiba’s Trip and Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on it. Final Fantasy VII from the PsOne Classics section… eh maybe not.

Sony Computer Entertainment Japan posted a PlayStation Vita FAQ and there is a big asterisk next to the part where it says the handheld is compatible with PSP software downloaded from the PlayStation Store.

It says support for Game Archives (aka PsOne Classics and TurboGrafx-16 games in Japan) are the exception. In other words, PlayStation Vita won’t be able to run Metal Gear Solid or Chrono Cross. Sony says they will release more information about this soon.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi:

That Japanese page is simply saying that game archive support beyond PSP titles will be announced later. That could mean that maybe they want to wait for an addition to the announcement (PS2 titles?), or because - as I seem to recall - it was said that there may be some PSOne titles that won't end up working on the PS Vita. So maybe they want to put together a list of which titles won't be playable.

Totally, totally a non-issue here, and not any reason to get worried. I'm not really sure Siliconera should have published that story, because I'm not sure the person doing it understood the Japanese.

zomgbbqftw · (10-13-2011, 04:50 PM)

Yeah, I just read that as well. There must be some mistake as PS Suite supports PS1 games and Vita is the flagship PS Suite device.

Ermac · (10-13-2011, 04:50 PM)

lupinko · (10-13-2011, 04:50 PM)

Any gamejournos out there that had time with the Vita shed more light onto this?

Merovin · (10-13-2011, 04:50 PM)

If so, this is a big bummer for me. Still probably day 1

djplaeskool · 04:55 PM

I own three other devices that can play PS1 titles.
Loss (to me at least) is minimal.

Pretty sure they said classics work though.

MikeE21286 · (10-13-2011, 04:51 PM)

Well that would be a mis-step.

Please make it not true :(

Wario64 · (10-13-2011, 04:51 PM)

I'm waiting for PS Vita Lite

am i doing it right guys

manueldelalas · (10-13-2011, 04:51 PM)

My mid range cellphone can play PS1 games... how difficult is it to make a fucking emulator??

MoxManiac · (10-13-2011, 04:51 PM)

That would be retarded. PSP can play PS1 classics but Vita can't? Uh?

androvsky · (10-13-2011, 04:52 PM)

There's other Sony faqs that state that PS1 and minis will transfer over just fine. I wonder if it has something to do with PC Engine games and Konami taking over all the decision making for Hudson.

Toki767 · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

I'm more than willing to give up PS1 support for PS2 support.

demosthenes · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

http://us.playstation.com/support/an....htm?a_id=2254

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Q: Is PS Vita compatible with other PlayStation platform games like PS3, PS2, or PSP? Do you have any plan to support other PlayStation platforms in the future?
A: Users can play PSP titles, minis and PSone classics titles which are offered on PS Store. We do no have any plans to make PS Vita compatible with PS3 or PS2 titles at this point.

Galvanise_ · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

This would be beyond fucking ridiculous.

The_Leducs · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

Q: Is PS Vita compatible with other PlayStation platform games like PS3, PS2, or PSP? Do you have any plan to support other PlayStation platforms in the future?
A: Users can play PSP titles, minis and PSone classics titles which are offered on PS Store. We do no have any plans to make PS Vita compatible with PS3 or PS2 titles at this point.

From Vita FAQ - http://us.playstation.com/support/an....htm?a_id=2254

Miizy F Baby · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

This not only just sounds factually wrong, due to the ps suite, but wouldn't make any damn sense if it was right. The PSP can emulate psx games just fine, but the Vita can't?

patrickthehedgehog · (10-13-2011, 04:53 PM)

Pre-order cancelled. What the hell is this? Not allowed because it won't drain the battery fast enough? PSOne classics already have a built in line-up and marketplace. Is it that stupid argument that they'd rather you spend time playing (and buying) new games?

Angry Fork · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

Obviously bullshit. Even if Sony says it can't modders will be able to make it so like they did on PSP. Doesn't matter to me either way there are so many options to play PS1 games it's not remotely an issue. PS2 playing on Vita is worth so much more.

Durante · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Miri:

This makes not only just sounds factually wrong, due to the ps suite, but wouldn't make any damn sense if it was right.

Agreed.
I think we should wait for confirmation on this.

sixteen-bit · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

That would suck ass

TONX · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

Is this a ps suite licensing issue?

androvsky · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Miri:

This makes not only just sounds factually wrong, due to the ps suite, but wouldn't make any damn sense if it was right. The PSP can emulate psx games just fine, but the Vita can't?

If this is true (which it probably isn't) I guarantee that it's a licensing issue that Sony royally screwed up on, not a technical one.

Edit: and probably applies to something other than PS1 games.

JohngPR · (10-13-2011, 04:54 PM)

There's already been two quotes to how wrong this statement is. :-P

djplaeskool · (10-13-2011, 04:55 PM)

Was just thinking, didn't they already say PSOne classics and minis were a go...
There must be something special about the titles they're referencing.

demosthenes · (10-13-2011, 04:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Durante:

Agreed.
I think we should wait for confirmation on this.

It's already been confirmed, see above.

Can a Mod change title or put in the FAQ I posted above in the OP? This is going to turn into 15 pages of people ignoring facts posted and complaining for nothing.

ULTROS! · (10-13-2011, 04:55 PM)

Maybe it won't play specific PSone titles?

Sophia · (10-13-2011, 04:56 PM)

http://andriasang.com/comyk0/

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The fate of your Game Archives collection is not so clear. The same response includes a footnote saying that Game Archives games are not included in the response. Details on Game Archives support will be announced later, the FAQ says.

Game Archives is the Japanese name for the large library of PlayStation games that's available for PSP and PS3 download via PSN. It usually also includes the smaller library of PC Engine/Turbo Grafx games, although this is sometimes referred to as PC Engine Archives.

The FAQ does not specifically state that Vita will not play Game Archives games. We'll have to wait for Sony to share more details.

So, not outright denial that it won't play PSOne Titles...

demosthenes · (10-13-2011, 04:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Marrshu:

http://andriasang.com/comyk0/

So, not outright denial that it won't play PSOne Titles...

You need more negatives in your sentence.

Razlo · (10-13-2011, 04:58 PM)

Originally Posted by ULTROS!:

Maybe it won't play specific PSone titles?

That would be a bummer, but way more acceptable. I'll await word from Sony (don't screw this up).

Grisby · (10-13-2011, 04:58 PM)

What. Thats lame.

djplaeskool · (10-13-2011, 04:58 PM)

Ok, so you may miss out on the Turbo-Grafx and PC-Engine titles.
Meh.

chronos4590 · (10-13-2011, 04:58 PM)

Originally Posted by ULTROS!:

Maybe it won't play specific PSone titles?

Probably. If the Xerpia play can run a shitty version of Crash Bandicoot, then why not vita? Still would suck though.

Sophia · (10-13-2011, 05:00 PM)

Originally Posted by demosthenes:

You need more negatives in your sentence.

Well, it does seem worrisome that anyone is even questioning if Game Archives can be played or not. =P

sublimit · (10-13-2011, 05:00 PM)

Sony just had to make one stupid decision to counter all the good ones they made for Vita,otherwise they wouldn't be Sony.

24FrameDaVinci · (10-13-2011, 05:00 PM)

Yup, that was exactly why I was going to get a Vita...to play PS1 games. :lol

demosthenes · (10-13-2011, 05:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Marrshu:

Well, it does seem worrisome that anyone is even questioning if Game Archives can be played or not. =P

The FAQ speaks for itself for me that's been posted twice. This is going to end up being some translation thing or something that doesn't affect 99% of PSOne games on the store like the Turbo games.

Beysus · (10-13-2011, 05:02 PM)

Even the PSP can play Ps1 games. I don't believe this.

onQ123 · (10-13-2011, 05:02 PM)

I say we take this as fact & use it to troll in every Vita thread until they release a statement saying that it can play PS1 games.

gofreak · (10-13-2011, 05:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Marrshu:

Well, it does seem worrisome that anyone is even questioning if Game Archives can be played or not. =P

There may be some nuance to it which is why Sony will 'address it later'.

E.g. maybe it doesn't extend to PC Engine games etc. The US FAQ does not mention those, and they fall under 'Game Archives' in Japan.

AbsoluteZero · (10-13-2011, 05:03 PM)

That would be bizarre for it to be able to emulate more complex hardware (PSP) but not massively simpler hardware (PSX)

Boney · (10-13-2011, 05:03 PM)

yeah prolly a mistranslation, cause it doesn't make sense

DangerousDave · (10-13-2011, 05:03 PM)

So... a FAQ say that Vita is compatible with PS1 games.

But another FAQ says that they will release further information about compatibility of "game archives" (PS1 games is a part of "game archives")..

Conclusion: Vita is not compatible with PS1 games.

Grisby · (10-13-2011, 05:03 PM)

I mean, I've got like 12 ps1 classic things sitting on my PS3. Would like to play some Castlevania Chronicles on the go.

friskykillface · (10-13-2011, 05:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

I'm waiting for PS Vita Lite

am i doing it right guys

no, you need to make the "so who's trading in their Vitas to gamestop tomorrow" thread :P

that's a bummer, I was just starting to build a small collection of them on my PS3, oh well, still getting it though,

mclem · (10-13-2011, 05:05 PM)

Given the two FAQs, I wonder if the reality is something along the lines of "We won't have the emulator ready at launch"? That would appear to not contradict either statement.

Vita not running PS1 stuff just doesn't make *sense*.

Deadly Cyclone · (10-13-2011, 05:05 PM)

Only one I'd like to play is my PSN copy of MGS1, kind of sucks.

MeBecomingI · (10-13-2011, 05:06 PM)

It may very well be a region specific feature. North America, according to the posted FAQ from SCEA, the Vita can play PSone games. However, the FAQ posted from SCEJ may not be able too.

Either way, I'm sure we'll find more about it soon. If it is true and the machine just can't no matter the region, I'll be disappointed, but it doesn't affect my purchase anyway.

Deadstar · (10-13-2011, 05:07 PM)

This is too bad. I'd love to see horrible graphics on this oled beautiful screen.

Aeana · (10-13-2011, 05:08 PM)

I am looking forward to being able to play Grandia on a handheld properly with Dual Shock support, so this had better not be true.

H_Prestige · (10-13-2011, 05:11 PM)

It does run ps1 games just like psp and ps3. It has an emulator. That much was confirmed without a doubt when the system was revealed.

The doubt here is whether you your ps1 licenses transfer to vita or whether you have to buy them again. This sounds highly, highly unlikely to me. If Sony's license agreement with publishers extended ps1 classics from psp to ps3, I see no reason why it won't include vita and any other future ps device.