[MikeMyers]

1) I think the FR/LG soudtrack is generally better than the original, the are definitely some tracks that overshoot "rich" and land firmly in "busy" territory. Viridian Forest, however, isn't one3 of them. It's mostly the battle themes, especially the Champion battle theme that hafve too much going on. Which is desappointing since, battle themes are arguably the most important song in the game and definitely the ones you'll hear the most. 2) You say that as if there aren't EV/IV equivalent mechanics (which are much worse) in RBY. Regardless, lacking things like Natures and EVs is definitely a negative. Why would you want to lose the characteristics that make each Pokémon unique?

Actually, the whole IV did slip my mind, so I am going to give you that one. But I still prefer the music in the original games.

And it is just other things that bother me. For example, the fossil Pokemon are now at level 5 instead of Level 30, making them useless (Hitmonchan/lee comes at a lower level too, but Lapras comes at a decent level now which is pretty cool). Another example is Giovanni's Rhydon being replaced by Rhyhorn, and Sabrina going from being one of the harder fights to being the AI stupidly spamming Future Sight.

Plus, Lance's Hyper Beam strategy is no longer intimidating.

[Aggrotek]

So I managed to send Arceus to my friendboard? I think thats what it's called... But I can't connect to the Wireless because my router isn't compatible with Nintendo WFC. Will my Arceus stay there til I claim it or will it disappear on May 1? :(

For new page....

[backlot]

For new page....

I think it'll stay there. I'd say I'm about 90% sure.

[upandaway]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it'll stay there. I had my password Banette stay on the board longer than she was available.

[Firestorm]

With people cracking the RNG, breeding isn't anywhere near as painful in the old days.

Is there anything positive about the IV system?

The only strategic use you get out of it is trying to figure out if you want your Pokemon to be as slow as possible for Trick Room or decent enough to outspeed others normally (So 0 or 31 for speed). Also to figure out what stats to use for Hidden Power I guess.

I guess I don't particularly care if flavor text says my Zubat is any different than another Zubat. It just kind of annoys me when I play the newer games and catch a -Attack nature Darumaka or that I have to catch 3 different Marill's just to get one with the good ability. I guess R/B's way of doing things isn't necessarily better but it's just more fun for me than having to spin a roulette wheel every time I catch a Pokemon and hope it ends up how I want it.

Pretty sure I went through Pearl with a Modest Staraptor!

[Wiseblade]

I guess I don't particularly care if flavor text says my Zubat is any different than another Zubat. It just kind of annoys me when I play the newer games and catch a -Attack nature Darumaka or that I have to catch 3 different Marill's just to get one with the good ability. I guess R/B's way of doing things isn't necessarily better but it's just more fun for me than having to spin a roulette wheel every time I catch a Pokemon and hope it ends up how I want it.

Except an attack reducing nature isn't going to stop Darmanitan from tearing through everything in-game. Not even a little bit. The only time you ever have to worry about min-maxing is if you in the battle Tower/Subway/Frontier or you're playing against another person.

[Magnus]

Virdiran Forest RBY Virdiran Forest FR/LG See how much better the music is in this original?

Christ, they're both terrible in their own special ways, lol. Easily the worst track in the whole game, for me.

[Aggrotek]

I think it'll stay there. I'd say I'm about 90% sure.

I sure hope so, I need to find a place with WiFi that I can connect...

Christ, they're both terrible in their own special ways, lol. Easily the worst track in the whole game, for me.

I agree it's very annoying.

[Watch Da Birdie]

Yeah, Petalburg Woods wasn't that good either...no idea why they went with such creepy music for rather benign, early woods.

Eterna Forest and Pinwheel Forest easily destroy the old forest themes.

[Gravijah]

gsc version of viridian forest aka route 2 is one of my favorite songs in the series.

[LunaticHigh]

So Arceus is on my friendboard, but I cannot use the game sync for 48 hours because lolnintendo. Will I still be able to get Arceus? I don't have a pokemon tucked in yet and cannot do so for 48 hours due to switching to a 3ds, but I'm hoping he'll still be there since I already signed up to PGL and entered the code.

[Wiseblade]

gsc version of viridian forest aka route 2 is one of my favorite songs in the series.

But Gen II doesn't have a Viridian Forest...

[Gravijah]

But Gen II doesn't have a Viridian Forest...

yes, thus "aka route 2."

[Wiseblade]

yes, thus "aka route 2."

Like I was going to pass up an opportunity to badmouth GSC. And with Andrex gone, there's no one to stop me!

[Chet Rippo]

gsc version of viridian forest aka route 2 is one of my favorite songs in the series.

It is pretty great.

[Exterminieren]

Like I was going to pass up an opportunity to badmouth GSC. And with Andrex gone, there's no one to stop me!

Hey man, back off. I loved GSC's Safari Zone, and exploring the Power Plant, Lavender Tower, the Seafoam Islands, Cerulean Cave and Cinnebar Island again.

This is fun.

[ScraftyDevil]

Like I was going to pass up an opportunity to badmouth GSC. And with Andrex gone, there's no one to stop me!

That's where you're wrong.

I am a servant of the Secret Power, wielder of the Flame of Ho-oh. The darkness will not avail you, Water of Sinnoh! Go back to the shadows, for YOU. SHALL NOT. PASS.

[Chet Rippo]

Hey man, back off. I loved GSC's Safari Zone, and exploring the Power Plant, Lavender Tower, the Seafoam Islands, Cerulean Cave and Cinnebar Island again. This is fun.

The Seafoam Islands sucked, why would I want to go back there?

[Nocturnowl]

Hey man, back off. I loved GSC's Safari Zone, and exploring the Power Plant, Lavender Tower, the Seafoam Islands, Cerulean Cave and Cinnebar Island again. This is fun.

Hey lets not leave Johto itself out of this little love in, I loved the new Dark types that I may occasionally see in trainer battles and nowhere else, the numerous caves that weren't actually necessary and of course the later Johto pokemon levels being consistent over multiple areas leading to glorious grinding afterwards the likes of which no Pokemon game has managed to replicate.

you swiped all the good points! granted not having to go in caves is a plus for me

[Kokonoe]

What's going on?

[Wiseblade]

The Seafoam Islands sucked, why would I want to go back there?

[ColtraineGF]

We definitely need more deep caves to explore. And more block-pushing puzzles, muahaha.

[Frost_Ace]

Like I was going to pass up an opportunity to badmouth GSC. And with Andrex gone, there's no one to stop me!

Was he banned again? :o

[Aaron Strife]

Hated the Seafoam Islands. Of course, I never used Repel as a kid. When I recently replayed Red it was okay.

[Wiseblade]

Was he banned again? :o

Yep, he openly broadcasted plans to make money pirating games.

[Chet Rippo]

[Frost_Ace]

Yep, he openly broadcasted plans to make money pirating games.

So it's a permaban? :(

[Chet Rippo]

So it's a permaban? :(

No, he got only 2 weeks for it. They let him off easy.

[Syph Medwes]

Yep, he openly broadcasted plans to make money pirating games.

He tried to recruit me but I showed great self-restraint in saying no :P

Also, Mt. Silver makes up for all of Kanto's GSC shortcomings.

edit: and GSC route 2 is so awesome

[Wiseblade]

He tried to recruit me but I showed great self-restraint in saying no :P Also, Mt. Silver makes up for all of Kanto's GSC shortcomings. edit: and GSC route 2 is so awesome

No, it doesn't.

[NEO0MJ]

No, it doesn't.

Maybe but still, most epic trainer battle ever.

[Kokonoe]

most epic trainer battle ever.

Never will be another that is as epic as that for me.

[Syph Medwes]

Of course I would've liked Kanto to be more fleshed out, but after finally getting that 16th badge you eventually make your way to Route 28 and then to Mt. Silver. And when you finally reach the summit, oh boy, you click A and are greeted with "..." and then begins the best battle in any pokemon game to date.

[Gravijah]

vs blue is still better.

[Izayoi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhfJO366AM4

[Aggrotek]

So I made a dumb move... I found a place that my DS can connect [woo hoo] but... I put a pokemon in the DW and decided I wanted a different one in there... I didn't realize I'd have to wait another day to put a pokemon in there.... So now I am potentially screwed out of getting Arceus... :(


Also, does anyone hunt shinies here?

[Wiseblade]

vs blue is still better.

Yep.

Finding the Regis > VS champion Blue > BW Finale > VS Red.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhfJO366AM4

Exactly what people mean when they say FRLG is too busy.

The superior BW remix proves it.

[Chet Rippo]

Yep. Finding the Regis > VS champion Blue > BW Finale > VS Red.

Not sure what finding the Regis has anything to do with the other things...

Exactly what people mean when they say FRLG is too busy. The superior BW remix proves it.

They all suck compared to the original version anyways.

[Gravijah]

The superior BW remix proves it.

that remix is wayyyyy too lazy.

[NEO0MJ]

YExactly what people mean when they say FRLG is too busy. The superior BW remix proves it.

When do you hear this in the game?

Not sure what finding the Regis has anything to do with the other things... They all suck compared to the original version anyways.

True, that.

[ScraftyDevil]

I see your remixes, and raise this.

[BatDan]

Dex Progress: 218/646
Did a lot of PokeTransfer Fun. Now comes the part where I breed and evolve. Hehehe.

Sooo how's this for a team? I'm not interested multiplayer, just having a fairly strong team for the post game insanity.
Charizard
Swampert
Garchomp
Sceptile
Lucario
Vanilluxe

The last one I'm iffy on.

[Aggrotek]

I see your remixes, and raise this.

I prefer this.

[MikeMyers]

Christ, they're both terrible in their own special ways, lol. Easily the worst track in the whole game, for me.

I knew a guy who did a cover of "Last Christmas" with the Mt. Moon theme. RBY late 90s era was so awesome.

[Boney]

But Gen II doesn't have a Viridian Forest...

why would you want a shitty forest filled with level 3 bug pokemon when you're passing through with your level 50+ pokemon and you've already passed though other forests

[ScraftyDevil]

I prefer this.

And I prefer this,this,and this. PokéRemixStudio's work is truly amazing.

[Chet Rippo]

why would you want a shitty forest filled with level 3 bug pokemon when you're passing through with your level 50+ pokemon and you've already passed though other forests

The only thing from Kanto that I was bummed that wasn't in GSC was the Safari Zone. The other stuff I really couldn't care less about.

[MikeMyers]

I liked Seaform Islands because there just so many Pokemon there: Slowpoke, Seel, Staryu, etc.

Power Plant, on the otherhand, was annoying due to all the suicidal Electrodes.

why would you want a shitty forest filled with level 3 bug pokemon when you're passing through with your level 50+ pokemon and you've already passed though other forests

GSC should have had strong Kanto Pokemon just to keep the game interesting. Imagine finding a Level 40 Beedrill in the wild.

[Sagitario]

We all know the anime version of the rival theme is the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ9uf2yA4i4


Johto rival theme is also nice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJrmc-RXzo

[Wiseblade]

Not sure what finding the Regis has anything to do with the other things...

It was my ranking of the best single player experiences in Pokémon games.

"I wonder What's in that underwater patch on route 132? I'd have to deal with those water currents though..."

"Dots? What the... Hang on, this is Braille! But I don't know Braille. how am I going to translate this?"

*cue epic flashback to reading the manual on the bus home after buying the game*

"Why on earth is there a Braille guide in this thing?"

"THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER"