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Taking the following factors out of play - aesthetic and delayed learned moves - is there any reason not to evolve Pokemon as soon as you're able? That is, are evolutions always more powerful? I know there's supposed to be a hilarious fuckup that causes Chansey to be > Blissey, but otherwise?

Like, this Kadabra. I should Alakazam this shizzle ASAP, si?
In the case of Alakazam, yes. Kadabra and Alakazam learn moves at the same levels, so there's no drawback to evolving him as soon as possible.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
In the case of Alakazam, yes. Kadabra and Alakazam learn moves at the same levels, so there's no drawback to evolving him as soon as possible.
And Alakazam is more powerful statwise, si?

Question 2, total first world problem: I own, like most of you, multiple games and am enjoying trekking through all of them gaining different Pokemon in the hopes of eventually getting them all together ultimately on one black or white DS cart (and eventually, obvz onto a B/W2 cart).

Is there a good utility out there to function as a super personal-dex? Like, obviously I know there's no way to automatically combine Dexes from multiple games into one, but something like an iOS app or good checklist for me to manually use to remember which Pokemon I have and which I don't?
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Top ten, eh? Hard to really decide. Do you judge by aesthetics, by functionality, or by a mixture of both?

1 - Roserade. I just love, love her design, and I have no idea why. But she looks awesome, and can kick some serious ass.

2 - Azumarill. Such a cute pokemon, so unassuming...until he starts hitting you with STAB Aqua Jets with higher attack strength than most legendaries. Everyone underestimates him, but he has good defense and has roughly equivalent attack to Rayquaza when trained properly. Just an awesome little guy.

3 - Vaporeon. The best of the Eeveelutions, though Jolteon is damn close. I've always loved Vaporeon, but mine actually has his own story going on. I was breeding Timid Wish Eevees for the hell of it one day on my Diamond cartridge. I decided to make one of the better ones into a Vaporeon. I EV trained it, but never got the chance to really use it. After SS came out, I Master Balled a good Zapdos, ground out the points to teach it Heat Wave, then traded it over to my Diamond file with the rest of my bred and EV trained guys. Circe came over, since he wasn't seeing any action. The next day, my Diamond cartridge feel out of my hoodie pocket when I was running to catch a bus home for Spring Break. Circe ended up leading my team to victory as the sole survivor from my Diamond game against the rest of Kanto, and almost single handedly beat Red in his mid 50s.

4 - Toxicroak. Cool typing, flexible movepool, and is just such a badass overall.

5 - Mienshao. So many people just say to use your favorites, but sometimes it just works the other way around. I liked Mienshao well enough from the beginning, but for some reason, I decided that she would be the first gen V pokemon I would breed. And holy shit, did I make the right call. Fake Out and U-Turn are just hilarious with Life Orb and Regenerator...or I can just apply a STAB HJK directly to the face. She's become a permanent fixture of my team. So frail, yet so hard to catch.

6 - Blastoise. Still the coolest starter, even if he's not the strongest by any means.

7 - Slowbro. Another example of a pokemon I liked becoming a pokemon I love due to being awesome in battle. Regenerator is ridiculously awesome on this guy, and makes him so fun to use. Switch in, take a resisted hit. Take a super effective hit (but surviving), T-Wave. Switch out, and suddenly you've got the upperhand, and can just come in later to Slack Off back to full. She just works so well, and makes such an awesome Regenerator tag team with Mienshao. Plus her movepool is so varied. Heals, status, Calm Mind, a surprisingly varied attacking moveset...did you know that Slowbro can learn Flamethrower and Fire Blast? Such a fun tank to use, and has quickly become the other permanent fixture of my team. If you couldn't tell, I'm a bit of a suck for water types.

8 - Jumpluff. I love trickster pokemon. Possibly the cutest pokemon ever, but deceptively effective. Encore, status moves, Leech Seed, and does it all with style and speed. Not the greatest pokemon ever, but just so fun to use.

9 - Gengar. The original ghost. Stlll powerful, but has a trickster aspect about it at the same time. What is it going to do? Set up a sub? Just go right for the throat with its power and movepool? Disable the one move you have that can actually hit it? Put you to sleep? Then when all's said and done, and you think Gengar's just done for, time to finish it off...nope, Destiny Bond. Just so much it can do.

10 - Yanmega. Bug types are awesome, and Yanmega has two of the coolest abilities in the game, and the power to put them to use. Tinted Lens Bug Buzz just cuts through so much, and catches people by surprise. Love this guy.

Honorable mentions: Omastar, Mismagius, Jolteon, Venusaur, Hypno, Cinccino and many others I'm sure I'm forgetting. Why I guess you could argue that they shouldn't be on this list if I can't remember them immediately, there's 649 to remember.
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Originally Posted by Magnus: View Post
And Alakazam is more powerful statwise, si?

Question 2, total first world problem: I own, like most of you, multiple games and am enjoying trekking through all of them gaining different Pokemon in the hopes of eventually getting them all together ultimately on one black or white DS cart (and eventually, obvz onto a B/W2 cart).

Is there a good utility out there to function as a super personal-dex? Like, obviously I know there's no way to automatically combine Dexes from multiple games into one, but something like an iOS app or good checklist for me to manually use to remember which Pokemon I have and which I don't?
Yes, Alakazam has MUCH better stats than Kadabra.

As for apps, Dex on the App Store is really good as it has all 649 Pokémon in it, and the PokéDex 3D on the 3DS eShop is also neat.
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The Kami Trio having new Bird Formes is literally the funniest thing Gamefreak has ever done.

10/10.
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Just saw news about formes...darn it, I need to sleep :p
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Originally Posted by ColtraineGF: View Post
Just saw news about formes...darn it, I need to sleep :p
same...now i gotta stay up just incase
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Actually, come to think of it, the more I look at it, only Tornadus looks like a bird...Thundurus looks more like a dinosaur or something.
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Originally Posted by Watch Da Birdie: View Post
The Kami Trio having new Bird Formes is literally the funniest thing Gamefreak has ever done.

10/10.
This certainly makes them much better than any other legendaries save for maybe the Regis.
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I have no idea what's going on with Landorus.
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Dafuq.
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Almost looks like they're modeled after Moltres, Raikou, and Zekrom.
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They're probably modelled after the animals of the Chinese Zodiac (northern tortoise, southern bird, eastern dragon and western tiger), which would explain the "dinosaur" foot.
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Tornadus bird it's TERRIBLE.
Reich
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(05-11-2012, 11:38 AM)

Can't get Darkrai on Nintendo Wifi Event.. they say no Mistery gift available .. :(
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Originally Posted by Frost_Ace: View Post
Tornadus bird it's TERRIBLE.
I don't know why but it looks like it's wearing a bra in that form.
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Originally Posted by Reich: View Post
Can't get Darkrai on Nintendo Wifi Event.. they say no Mistery gift available .. :(
You gotta have an english language game to receive it.

Originally Posted by NEO0MJ: View Post
I don't know why but it looks like it's wearing a bra in that form.
yep, reminds me of an harpy:

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What's wrong with Harpies?
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What's wrong with Harpies?
Harpies don't usually have mustaches.
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Harpies are creepy as hell
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Originally Posted by MicH: View Post
Harpies are creepy as hell
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Originally Posted by Andrex: View Post
http://i.imgur.com/cZWn5l.jpg
You're not G-Fex!
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I'm the Kaiba to G-Fex's Yugi.

Wiseblade is the Weevil.
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I'm the Kaiba to G-Fex's Yugi.

Wiseblade is the Weevil.
Must be terrible always being the rival. And I actually had to Google Weevil.
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yu-gi-oh is some terrible shit.
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Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
yu-gi-oh is some terrible shit.
Better than Digimon!

But then again, what isn't.
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Originally Posted by Andrex: View Post
Better than Digimon!

But then again, what isn't.
the respective anime series? equally bad. digimon at least started as something interesting.
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Originally Posted by Andrex: View Post
But then again, what isn't.
Anything Google-related.
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Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
the respective anime series? equally bad. digimon at least started as something interesting.
YGO ended as something interesting. Seriously, the final arc is really good.

Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
Anything Google-related.
One day I will find a cure for your crippling Digimon fixation, and on that day we will be happy.
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I'm just gonna sit in the corner and pretend that my nerd rage isn't rising to a boiling point.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
I'm just gonna sit in the corner and pretend that my nerd rage isn't rising to a boiling point.
Just flip out Primeape style, you know it's the right choice
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
I'm just gonna sit in the corner and pretend that my nerd rage isn't rising to a boiling point.
Scrafty, DBZ, and Kid Icarus are awesome. :D Regular Show is OK.
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First season of Digimon was good along with the first movie.
Yu-Gi-Oh is fun to play.
DBZ is just awesome.
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Regular Show is OK.
Wait, what?! DBZ over Regular Show? I'm sorry bit that's a wrong opinion.
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Originally Posted by Andrex: View Post
Regular Show is OK.
GOAT is far from ok.
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Originally Posted by Syph Medwes: View Post
First season of Digimon was good along with the first movie.
Yu-Gi-Oh is fun to play.
DBZ is just awesome.
Season 3 of Digimon (Tamers) was leagues better than anything that came before and after it. It's up there as one of my all-time favourite anime.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
Season 3 of Digimon (Tamers) was leagues better than anything that came before and after it. It's up there as one of my all-time favourite anime.
Masaru and his fists say "fuck you" to Season 3.
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
Masaru and his fists say "fuck you" to Season 3.
As awesome and manly as Masaru and all of Season 5 were, they lacked the substance and emotions (aside from hot-blooded rage; Savers had that down pat) that made me love Tamers so much. I still love Season 5, though. It's definitely my second-favourite season.

Oh, and, um, how about them Pokémon? What do you guys think tomorrow's leaks will bring?
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
Masaru and his fists say "fuck you" to Season 3.
There's are plenty of better shows to watch for hot-blooded action though.

Originally Posted by Andrex: View Post
I'm the Kaiba to G-Fex's Yugi.

Wiseblade is the Weevil.
Don't even get me started.
Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
GOAT is far from ok.
Adventure Time > Regular Show.

Avatar/Korra >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them both.
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Anybody try Fire Blast on Gyarados? He may have low Special Attack (60), but I think it could throw Ferrothorn off guard. Or is it just best to try with Earthquake?
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Originally Posted by MikeMyers: View Post
Anybody try Fire Blast on Gyarados? He may have low Special Attack (60), but I think it could throw Ferrothorn off guard. Or is it just best to try with Earthquake?
Would be a waste, considering you'll have to invest a lot of EV in spacial attack to even begin making a dent with that move, as well as giving up adamant/jolly nature. Besides, FB has terrible accuracy.
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Originally Posted by NEO0MJ: View Post
Would be a waste, considering you'll have to invest a lot of EV in spacial attack to even begin making a dent with that move, as well as giving up adamant/jolly nature. Besides, FB has terrible accuracy.
Fire Blast's accuracy isn't that bad. There are plenty of other common moves with worse accuracy like Stone Edge and Focus Blast.
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Originally Posted by MikeMyers: View Post
Anybody try Fire Blast on Gyarados? He may have low Special Attack (60), but I think it could throw Ferrothorn off guard. Or is it just best to try with Earthquake?
Entirely terrible for reasons mentioned above. In game, it might be okay to toss a couple special moves on Pokemon like Gyarados, but not for most competitive purposes. Gyarados enjoys having more bulk EVs applied, or even Speed for a more offensive Dragon Dance set. And given that it's so situational in use, you'd be better off accounting for something like Ferrothorn with teammates. Gyarados' own best bet against it is probably Taunt, forcing Ferro to use Gyro Ball and the more rare Power Whip (although it will hurt), instead of stalling you with Leech Seed and Curse. This way, you can actually use it as setup bait a bit.
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Could he learn Fire Fang instead?
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Originally Posted by tiggerkiddo: View Post
Could he learn Fire Fang instead?
Sadly, the only Fang he learns is Ice Fang. It would be viable if he did learn it, although Fang's weak overall base power is the reason you rarely see a Gyarados carrying Ice Fang over Earthquake / Stone Edge these days.
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Originally Posted by Wiseblade: View Post
Adventure Time > Regular Show.

Avatar/Korra >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them both.
Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated >>> every cartoon currently airing
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I was wondering if that show was still on since all they seem to show is What's New, Scooby-Doo? reruns.
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Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
yu-gi-oh is some terrible shit.
It's time to duel.
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Originally Posted by Kokonoe: View Post
It's time to duel.
And there's no backing down.