Pretty dumb Sega.
I doubt that was Sega's plan. Sonic 3DS most likely isn't ready for primetime yet.Originally Posted by Glix
I'm in hype overdrive for this game. I'd be playing Generations to make the wait better but the 3DS rev doesn't come out until AFTER Mario??
Pretty dumb Sega.
Did.. you.. change my Batmario costume! :POriginally Posted by Silent Storm
Got to say I am digging the castle music.
Tanooki > BatOriginally Posted by Penguin
Did.. you.. change my Batmario costume! :P
(this art is official)
Never stopped them before! ;-)Originally Posted by Brandon F
I doubt that was Sega's plan. Sonic 3DS most likely isn't ready for primetime yet.
Rhino - That seems like a smart, well thought out decision. *eyeroll*
Going by Nintendo Power, even though they gave it a 9 they seem to criticize it for having a lack of creativity and being a familiar, by-the-book, Mario game. That's not really a bad thing since New Super Mario Wii also had similar criticisms even though the game was much better than New Super Mario DS.Originally Posted by apana
Wow the reviews are lower than I was expecting. What are people citing as the main negatives?
Also, those New Super Mario games were fantastic and yet they don't have a 9 on Metacritic. Those criticisms were mostly the same thing, like playing it too safe, or being familiar to past Mario games. Not really valid criticism to me. I don't agree with reviews that dock off scores for that especially since they seem to give a free pass to the Halos and Modern Warfares even though all their sequels have roughly been a similar formula from previous games.
Originally Posted by TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Going by Nintendo Power, even though they gave it a 9 they seem to criticize it for having a lack of creativity and being a familiar, by-the-book, Mario game. That's not really a bad thing since New Super Mario Wii also had similar criticisms even though the game was much better than New Super Mario DS.
Something doesn't fit here.Super Mario 3D Land: 9/10
+Different and great styles of Mario platforming for everyone
+Great 3D
-More advanced moves (long jump, somersaults) are completely optional.
-Not very creative
Overall: "A true triple-A title...Natural evolution of the series...Not as much content as Galaxies but still plenty..Blows away all of the previous handheld Marios."
From the little I've read, but also gathered from the demo I played, Mario 3D recycles a lot of content from Galaxy/Galaxy 2. This isn't necessarily a big issue, nor implies the levels are poorly designed, just that it falls back on a lot of the concepts already established in the Galaxy games, and thus their initial appeal and surprise has worn off.Originally Posted by apana
Wow the reviews are lower than I was expecting. What are people citing as the main negatives?
I also suspect the shorter, compartmentalised stages mean single gimmicks are more dominant for the entirety of a level, plus an overall easy difficulty.
By this point it's already gone gold, certainly.Originally Posted by Brandon F
I doubt that was Sega's plan. Sonic 3DS most likely isn't ready for primetime yet.
SEGA has admitted before that they don't want to release 3DS games until big Nintendo titles are out to drive sales, so waiting until after Mario is probably exactly their plan.
Posted the same paradox earlier. Yea, the two statements in the NP review are pretty absurd.Originally Posted by Truth101
Something doesn't fit here.
I think "not creative" refers to level themes and obstacles and "natural evolution" refers to the 2d/3d controls/design ect. So the game takes old ideas and finds new wrinkles.Originally Posted by Truth101
Something doesn't fit here.
How doesn't it fit?Originally Posted by Truth101
Something doesn't fit here.
It's the same thing.
Natural evolution is a polite way of saying it's not very radical or creative. Otherwise, it would be called revolutionary, not evolutionary.
So, Galaxy 2. Or does that not count for some reason?Originally Posted by Willy105
How doesn't it fit?
It's the same thing.
Natural evolution is a polite way of saying it's not very radical or creative.
Also, would you say they are talking about from Galaxy -> SM3DL or the franchise in general. Makes a big difference.
Galaxy 2 was a natural evolution of Galaxy 1. It was not a completely new experience, like from Sunshine to Galaxy 1, or from 64 to Sunshine.Originally Posted by Truth101
So, Galaxy 2. Or does that not count for some reason?
I don't know if there'll be much to report. If I don't go back to the same Geo, it's the Ito Yokado at the next station over, which also opens at 10. I wasn't planning on going clear down to Akiba, which would cost me an extra 210 yen each way.Originally Posted by Mpl90
Cheese, Mik... tomorrow, we want your report on Media Create Thread for some news from stores about Mario and white 3DS, ok? :)
Apart for this... JAPAN, I HATE YOOOOOUUUUU!!!!!!!! XD
My God, they are so dumb sometimes. I mean, I understand that logic for stuff like Shinobi, but damn, these guys are just mistake after mistake.Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto
By this point it's already gone gold, certainly.
SEGA has admitted before that they don't want to release 3DS games until big Nintendo titles are out to drive sales, so waiting until after Mario is probably exactly their plan.
So, Galaxy 2 being a natural Evolution of Galaxy. Would you call it not creative?Originally Posted by Willy105
Galaxy 2 was a natural evolution of Galaxy 1. It was not a completely new experience, like from Sunshine to Galaxy 1, or from 64 to Sunshine.
Would you say that SM3DL is the same sort of evolution. If, so what is it evolving from?
Since the 3DS is practically a handheld Wii/Gamecube, it already needs a higher standard like how New Super Mario Wii was heavily criticized for it being a upscaled version of New Super Mario DS even though it's the better version.
Sure... I'll be going to the biggest electronics store in Osaka (Yodobashi Camera Umeda) so that will probably be a good way to measure the success of the game on day 1 (though Mario titles have such long legs that even if during the first day they don't sell like a Monster Hunter -and they don't, I think - they will still sell like crazy).Originally Posted by Mpl90
Cheese, Mik... tomorrow, we want your report on Media Create Thread for some news from stores about Mario and white 3DS, ok? :)
Apart for this... JAPAN, I HATE YOOOOOUUUUU!!!!!!!! XD
I will be there by 11am or so, and tomorrow is holiday here in Japan so probably a bunch of people around. I have not reserved the game but I don't think I will have many problems picking the game that early in the morning.
...Originally Posted by Mik2121
Sure... I'll be going to the biggest electronics store in Osaka (Yodobashi Camera Umeda) so that will probably be a good way to measure the success of the game on day 1 (though Mario titles have such long legs that even if during the first day they don't sell like a Monster Hunter -and they don't, I think - they will still sell like crazy).
I will be there by 11am or so, and tomorrow is holiday here in Japan so probably a bunch of people around. I have not reserved the game but I don't think I will have many problems picking the game that early in the morning.
...3rd November is a Holiday in Japan?
So, White and Mario with the Holiday?
Nintendo can be so bastard sometimes.
I can deal with that =P
It's Culture Day.Originally Posted by Mpl90
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...3rd November is a Holiday in Japan?
So, White and Mario with the Holiday?
Yeah! That demo really sold me on the game.Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19
The demo at Best Buy is pretty great I thought. World 1-1 of the game, 3D and controls work really well, couple of nice secrets, platforming feels really nice, simplistic level design with it being the first level and all, but still a lot of different paths.
The controls felt just a bit loose to me though, and I had some issues launching myself up to the music boxes that felt unreasonable.
But nothing that major, game seems like a fun solid platformer!
The videos really show a big difference.
...How is Amir0x gonna complete this game?
There is a tile you can stand on which moves the camera to reveal it, but it moves back after you step off it. Seems like you'll definitely be at a disadvantage in 2D mode, but you won't be crippled necessarily.Originally Posted by Chopper
So, that bit I've seen where turning the 3D on is necessary how to hit the "hidden" block...
...How is Amir0x gonna complete this game?
like any normal game we've been playing for generations sans awful gimmicky autostereoscopic 3D whose illusion is shattered if the 3DS is moved even 1.2 millimeters to the left or right; using basic common sense and skill. The videos have shown some of the later '3D on' gimmicks that do fundamentally nothing to alter gameplay and are simple perspective tricks. A monkey could solve these sorts of things.Originally Posted by Chopper
So, that bit I've seen where turning the 3D on is necessary how to hit the "hidden" block...
...How is Amir0x gonna complete this game?
I played the demo and not only did I not need 3D to overcome any challenge, but I didn't even need it for the secrets I found.
Not all players suck ass at games.
HYPE!
Ha ha. Do you copy/paste this stuff?!Originally Posted by Amir0x
like any normal game we've been playing for generations sans awful gimmicky autostereoscopic 3D whose illusion is shattered if the 3DS is moved even 1.2 millimeters to the left or right; using basic common sense and skill. The videos have shown some of the later '3D on' gimmicks that do fundamentally nothing to alter gameplay and are simple perspective tricks. A monkey could solve these sorts of things.
I played the demo and not only did I not need 3D to overcome any challenge, but I didn't even need it for the secrets I found.
Not all players suck ass at games.
I know, I know. The technology doesn't meet your superior standards and we're all idiots.
Just trollin'. ;)
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