[BertramCooper]

Yeah, I saw him tweet earlier pondering his many boys could have been protected if he'd gone to the police. Saw a number of sports writers indicate this was the worst thing they'd ever covered in college sports and I know one suggested the B1G boot PSU over it. The fallout will be substantial.

Penn State won't get booted from the conference.

But the Penn State board of trustees better act swiftly to out everyone even remotely involved in this. After reading that grand jury report, Spanier should be one of them.

And the university police force needs to be cleaned out, top to bottom. How can anyone on that campus have faith in a police force that won't protect children from a sexual predator?

[BertramCooper]

Curley and Schultz expected to surrender to police on Monday morning

[chuckddd]

It's Penn State, not the Papal State. Dummies.

[Stinkles]

Curley and Schultz expected to surrender to police on Monday morning

Holy shit at that story. Guy basically given carte Blanche by the school to rape children for more than a decade.

[BertramCooper]

Holy shit at that story. Guy basically given carte Blanche by the school to rape children for more than a decade.

If you want to have your day ruined, read the grand jury report in its entirety.

[Draft]

Disgusting. That campus PD should be dissolved. Bring in the troopers or something while it's rebuilt from the ground up.

[yankeehater]

My god this is so horrible. I will never root for Penn State again. Every single person involved in this needs to go, including Paterno. He hired this scum bag, it is his responsibility to make sure that he was stopped as soon as he found out. I cant for the life of me understand why the university wanted to cover this up.

[BertramCooper]

Penn State paying AD's legal costs

Good god, Spanier is a dumbass.

[Four_Chamber]

Say what you want about improper benefits from athletes, but this is much, much worse. Systematic rape of children for 10+ years, to which the administraton turned a blind eye, is unbelievable. Penn State is in deep trouble now.

Ultimately, the NCAA will have to do something substantive. People already have a hard time taking the NCAA seriously with all this realignment hogwash.

[Stinkles]

If you want to have your day ruined, read the grand jury report in its entirety.

Fuck him, the school, his enablers, the police and his miraculously oblivious and absent wife. The number of people in that report who witnessed a child rape and literally stood by and watched it happen is incredible to me.

[ezekial45]

I wonder how this is going to affect Penn State's enrollment numbers in the future? I mean, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a school that had any part in harboring and protecting a pedophile.

[JABEE]

ESPN doesn't believe this is a big story. It gets a side bar on their website. If it was a player selling his own jersey, there would be people stationed outside the player's family home. ESPN is a joke.

[BertramCooper]

ESPN doesn't believe this is a big story. It gets a side bar on their website. If it was a player selling his own jersey, there would be people stationed outside the player's family home. ESPN is a joke.

No fucking kidding.

During the Ohio State scandal, Tresel's mug was plastered everywhere on ESPN.com.

Apparently a school athletics scandal involving child rape and a university cover-up only warrants a sidebar.

[JABEE]

No fucking kidding. During the Ohio State scandal, Tresel's mug was plastered everywhere on ESPN.com. Apparently a school athletics scandal involving child rape and a university cover-up only warrants a sidebar.

It has every thing to do with "College Football on ESPN tonight." There is no journalistic integrity at ESPN.

[BertramCooper]

It has every thing to do with "College Football on ESPN tonight." There is no journalistic integrity at ESPN.

Also, I think the idea of a college football coach buggering little boys doesn't sit well with ESPN's hyper-masculine fanbase.

[DominoKid]

read the grand jury document.

the story of Victim 1 was enough to make my head spin. i cant bring myself to read the rest.

[hoos30]

ESPN is an entertainment network with news styling...it is NOT a news network. They are not going to slaughter one of their own golden geese.

If the PSU athletic dept is not decapitated after THIS, SMU, Ohio State, Miami, etc need to be forgiven forever. What they did is not even on the scale with these allegations.

[BertramCooper]

If the PSU athletic dept is not decapitated after THIS, SMU, Ohio State, Miami, etc need to be forgiven forever. What they did is not even on the scale with these allegations.

They will be, but not by the NCAA. Lurid shit like this goes far beyond the NCAA's purview.

But the more I think about it, the more I would be okay with kicking Penn State out of the Big Ten. It's not going to happen, but this level of administrative corruption has to have some dire consequences for Penn State.

[Schmitty]

Penn State paying AD's legal costs Good god, Spanier is a dumbass.

He needs to go. Everyone I know wants his head.

[BertramCooper]

He needs to go. Everyone I know wants his head.

After reading that report, I'm surprised Spanier wasn't charged along with Curley and Schultz.

Though I guess if he never perjured himself in court, perhaps not. /amateurlawyer

[SolidSnakex]

ESPN doesn't believe this is a big story. It gets a side bar on their website. If it was a player selling his own jersey, there would be people stationed outside the player's family home. ESPN is a joke.

Give it time. This story is going to pick up a lot of steam and they're going to have no choice but to cover it. It's happened to other stories that they've been cold on initially.

[TangMeng]

Give it time. This story is going to pick up a lot of steam and they're going to have no choice but to cover it. It's happened to other stories that they've been cold on initially.

Also don't forget it's football Sunday, and they have shit-all to talk about for the entire week without the NBA. This story is going to be massive

[giga]

Paterno should be gone. Disgusting.

[Ninja Scooter]

Yeah ESPN has no reason to protect Penn St. If theres one thing they love, it's the opportunity to tear down someone off their pedestal. It's just that the story broke on a weekend. Wait til Monday when their talk radio and tv talking heads get a hold of this.

[Schmitty]

After reading that report, I'm surprised Spanier wasn't charged along with Curley and Schultz. Though I guess if he never perjured himself in court, perhaps not. /amateurlawyer

Look at what the asshat said the other day AFTER Curley and Shultz were charged

"The allegations about a former coach are troubling, and it is appropriate that they be investigated thoroughly. Protecting children requires the utmost vigilance."

"With regard to the other presentments, I wish to say that Tim Curley and Gary Schultz have my unconditional support. I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years. I have complete confidence in how they have handled the allegations about a former University employee."

"Tim Curley and Gary Schultz operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion. I am confident the record will show that these charges are groundless and that they conducted themselves professionally and appropriately."

How can you say that after Paterno testified in front of a grand jury and told the story that they are denying to hear?!

http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/05/ti...-with-perjury/

[PhoenixPause]

No fucking kidding. During the Ohio State scandal, Tresel's mug was plastered everywhere on ESPN.com. Apparently a school athletics scandal involving child rape and a university cover-up only warrants a sidebar.

I hate OSU but you're 100% right here. I'm guessing Paterno will retire, ride into the sunset, and be praised as if this never happened. If this was a program that didn't have such a legendary coach it would be plastered everywhere

[Sirpopopop]

Yeah ESPN has no reason to protect Penn St. If theres one thing they love, it's the opportunity to tear down someone off their pedestal. It's just that the story broke on a weekend. Wait til Monday when their talk radio and tv talking heads get a hold of this.

Then ESPN should tear itself down for the hatchet job it did in the Big East.

You did read Gene Defillipo's comments about how ESPN gave the ACC "advice" on which teams to choose for its next round of conference expansion, right?

You do know this happened after the Big East turned down ESPN's laughable offer for $11m per team for its next tv contract, right?

Bottom line: ESPN is more interested in protecting its business interest than actual news. ESPN didn't break the Miami storyline. Heck, I don't think they even broke the USC storyline.

[quaere]

Mike McQueary (current WR coach and the unnamed GA in the report) should resign immediately. I don't want him coaching against Nebraska.

At least Joe can claim he didn't know if the allegation was true or not. McQueary saw it firsthand and failed to do as much as he could have because of concern for his career.

[Sirpopopop]

Mike McQueary (current WR coach and the unnamed GA in the report) should resign immediately. I don't want him coaching against Nebraska. At least Joe can claim he didn't know if the allegation was true or not. McQueary saw it firsthand and failed to do as much as he could have because of concern for his career.

Joe Pa should have been asked to resign yesterday.

He is the most powerful man on that campus. He could have called the state police. He did not.

Penn State is going to need to do a full sweep of the football program, and hire someone from outside the JoePa coaching tree to manage the program.

[BertramCooper]

ESPN didn't break the Miami storyline. Heck, I don't think they even broke the USC storyline.

Both of those, as well as the OSU tattoo scandal, were broken by Yahoo Sports.

[Stinkles]

These asshats aren't just guilty of ring fencing their program or turning a blind eye. They are absolutely complicit in the rape of more than one child.

[Instigator]

What the hell is involuntary deviate sexual intercourse in a pedophilia case?

[Stinkles]

At least the alum are seeing the issue clearly.

http://www.facebook.com/pennstate?ref=ts

[BertramCooper]

At least the alum are seeing the issue clearly. http://www.facebook.com/pennstate?ref=ts

You still have some defending JoePa, though.

Sure, JoePa went up the chain of command, but after nothing came of it, he didn't do anything about it. You have a bunch of people who claim they did what they were supposed to do, yet nothing happened to remedy the situation.

And it's obvious that Peterno did nothing to enforce the university's ban of Sandusky from university premises. Sandusky was still a regular fixture of the football facilities, and continued to rape boys in the locker room showers long after his supposed ban.

[GoldenEye 007]

What the hell is involuntary deviate sexual intercourse in a pedophilia case?

Seems like it boils down to rape of a minor.... That is what I translate it as.

[Takeda Kenshi]

Sandusky should be castrated now before that crazy mother fucker does any more damage. Then he should spend the rest of his life in prison. I truly hope the children who were raped AFTER PSU found out about this scumbag sue the school for a fortune. By not reporting it to the authorities when they first found out, they basically caused the rape of more children after the fact. Beyond disgusting.

[Dude Abides]

Damn. Full indictment is sickening. Doesn't seem like Spanier testified, so he didn't have an opportunity to perjure himself.

[Ninja Scooter]

In fairness to JoePa, in the last 10 years he probably didn't even know when he was shitting himself, let alone know what's going on with his program.

[Count Dookkake]

In fairness to JoePa, in the last 10 years he probably didn't even know when he was shitting himself, let alone know what's going on with his program.

The JPII defense.

[BertramCooper]

The only way I can explain Spanier's staunch defense of Curley and Schultz is that his own guilt is tied to theirs. If Curley and Schultz are acquitted, it makes Spanier appear not guilty by proxy.

Obviously, I'm not talking about the legal definition of guilt, since the prosecution doesn't appear to be going after Spanier. I'm referring to guilt in the eyes of the public, which could very likely cost Spanier his job.

[quaere]

The defense: I'm innocent, due to a legal technicality!

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — The Pennsylvania law requiring some school officials and others to report suspected child abuse does not apply to a Penn State administrator who's accused of keeping quiet about allegations that a former football coach molested a boy in a shower, the administrator's attorney said Sunday. The comments by Pittsburgh lawyer Thomas J. Farrell offer a preview of the defense he plans to use on the charge of failing to report faced by his client, Gary C. Schultz, the university's senior vice president for finance and business. Farrell said he will seek to have the charge dismissed. The charge is part of a broader case centered on retired Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, who is accused of sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years. Schultz, 62, and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley, 57, were both charged Saturday with failing to report to state and county officials that a witness told them he saw Sandusky sexually abusing a naked boy in the showers of a team practice facility in 2002. Schultz and Curley were both also charged with perjury. Lawyers for all three men say they are innocent. Farrell told The Associated Press on Sunday that the mandated reporting rules only apply to people who come into direct contact with children. He also said the statute of limitations for the summary offense with which Schultz is charged is two years, so it expired in 2004.

Perjury: We haven't figured out how to get out of that one yet.

About the perjury charge, Farrell said: "We're going to have a lot of issues with that, both factual and legal. I think there's a very strong defense here."

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...b3ee85b5e773a1

[BertramCooper]

Phew.

That must be such a relief for his conscience. I mean, he must have thought that he did something wrong there for a second.

[speedline]

If you want to have your day ruined, read the grand jury report in its entirety.

Ughhh...... read victim 1 and part of victim 2, holy shit these guys should pay big for this. Absolutely 100% unacceptable. Sickening.

[Dreams-Visions]

If you want to have your day ruined, read the grand jury report in its entirety.

swet jesus.

Penn State paying AD's legal costs Good god, Spanier is a dumbass.

SMH.

[Cryptozoologist]

Why the hell is Penn State defending this guy? Makes me sick, and will make the university and all the officials involved with the defense look awful.

This is a terrible thing for everyone involved, but the university has to distance itself from this scumbag.

[SerArthurDayne]

The defense: I'm innocent, due to a legal technicality! Perjury: We haven't figured out how to get out of that one yet. http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...b3ee85b5e773a1

Shitty if true. But a 2 year Statute of Limitations is pretty typical for many crimes. You could probably stretch the definition of working with children to cover a college administrator, though.

Perjury, as you point out is a pretty generic response. Perjury is tough to get out of, especially to a grand jury. I imagine he is fucked on that, as I can't see much sympathy from a jury or a prosecutor making a sweet deal.

[SerArthurDayne]

Why the hell is Penn State defending this guy? Makes me sick, and will make the university and all the officials involved with the defense look awful. This is a terrible thing for everyone involved, but the university has to distance itself from this scumbag.

If these guys lose Penn State could be subject to civil liability. My impression is that Penn State doesn't give a fuck about these guys, but they pretend like they do so that there is no guilty conviction that can be used as evidence against the University in any forthcoming civil suit.

[Schmitty]

Why the hell is Penn State defending this guy? Makes me sick, and will make the university and all the officials involved with the defense look awful. This is a terrible thing for everyone involved, but the university has to distance itself from this scumbag.

FYI: PSU isn't defending Sandusky, who did the molesting.

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

And as someone posted in the CFB thread, Sandusky's eerily titled autobiography:

[WedgeX]

The defense: I'm innocent, due to a legal technicality! Perjury: We haven't figured out how to get out of that one yet. http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...b3ee85b5e773a1

Since he's at a college, and they run camp programs for minors, I foresee the prosecution getting them on that.

And for statute of limitations, the two year limit ought to only apply two years after the last victim turns 18 and will no longer be a legal minor.