leroidys
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
Just finished the third trial in the secret realm before accessing the 3rd dungeon for the third flame.

These trials scared the shit out of me. Character design for the guardians is amazing.
Yeah the trials are awesome, but then again I'm not one who hates stealth in non stealth games for any reason.

The first time I was doing it, I didn't realize that the timer stops once you get all the tears. It was way more intense that way.
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Originally Posted by leroidys: View Post
Yeah the trials are awesome, but then again I'm not one who hates stealth in non stealth games for any reason.

The first time I was doing it, I didn't realize that the timer stops once you get all the tears. It was way more intense that way.
To me its a great way to add some depth in between dungeons. I love the towns/villages and NPCs in Zelda games. I love side quests and solving the towns people's problems. Its why Majora's Mask is my fave Zelda and fave game of all time. Its the perfect mix.

While SS isn't on that level, in terms of NPCs and things to do, it offers a nice break from finish dungeon a. go to dungeon b. And its pretty intense.
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Originally Posted by leroidys: View Post
Yeah the trials are awesome, but then again I'm not one who hates stealth in non stealth games for any reason.

The first time I was doing it, I didn't realize that the timer stops once you get all the tears. It was way more intense that way.
Dammit! Never noticed that.
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I can't really describe my feelings towards this game. You see, I really loved OOT, MM, WW and TP and I really wanted to love this game too. But it's just not happening.
I'm currently searching for the second flame and I really hope it gets better, because other Zeldas had me sold within the first hours.
It's not the art style I have a problem with, since I liked WW, although I prefer the dark tone of MM and TP. Controls are alright, they work good for me.

What probably annoys me the most is FI. Constantly stating the obvious, acting like the player is an idiot to the point it's almost offensive and the probability 'jokes' were funny the first time, but got old really fast. The first 3 temples I seriously believed this was a joke from Nintendo and you would get your real sidekick later in the game.
It's just such a enormous step down from Midna and even the red lion king, what was Nintendo thinking there.

The dungeons are hit or miss so far. I really liked the desert temple with the time warp feature (awesome idea) or the water temple. But the second temple was a joke. The first time ever in a Zelda game I said "Wait! That's it!?"

Gameplay and difficulty is good, but I expected it to be harder from what people are saying. I only died once so far fighting Ghirahim for the first time and this is my very first game on the Wii.

I'm also missing the feeling of epicness. TP felt a lot more epic, mainly because of Epona.

I really don't want to say this, but the music is also not as good as the previous Zeldas. It's not bad by any means and it's great that they finally use an orchestra. But compared against TP and WW it doesn't have that many memorable pieces and most of the time the music is too much in the background to be effective. I get goosebumps all the time from almost any Zelda music, but not from SS so far. It's also unforgivable that no music is playing during night time.

Speaking about night time, I miss the day/night cycle too and then there is no title sequence. I was almost sold on TP just because of the opening alone.


I don't know, there is so much that rubs me the wrong way about this game. Maybe I'm getting too old or something.
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been playing this for some time now. I am in dessert( ly something something) . I do not enjoy flying. Miss horse. Game is not epic' story feels ok. Combat is good. Puzzles seem average so far- lacks side quests and secrets and fun things to do'
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I just got the third piece of the song of the hero for the triforce. I don't know if there was any prescribed order but just out of the order of their appearance in the game I did

1. Faron Woods
2. Eldin Volcano
3. Lanyuru Desert

Now after the third dragon I have the option to do all the trials and boss battles again as a challenge. I started the boss fights but only made it to the 2nd Imprisoned fight before dying. How difficult is this? I was really tense and didn't feel like doing it over again (I had beaten 5 bosses and was on my 6th).

I think I will try again tonight but it took a lot out of me. Wondering if I should just go ahead to the next part of the game.

But yeah loving all these in between dungeons challenges and fights. Would prefer more NPC side stories but the chase for gratitude crystals is providing some of them.
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I only played and beat one boss but didn't feel like going back again...I was so close in beating the game that I just wanted to be done with it lol.
Is the prize any good for beating all them bosses?
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
Now after the third dragon I have the option to do all the trials and boss battles again as a challenge. I started the boss fights but only made it to the 2nd Imprisoned fight before dying. How difficult is this? I was really tense and didn't feel like doing it over again (I had beaten 5 bosses and was on my 6th).
IIRC, the bosses are the same difficulty as they were in the dungeons. I suggest to finish the trial, there is nice surprise in the end.

Originally Posted by olimpia84:
I only played and beat one boss but didn't feel like going back again...I was so close in beating the game that I just wanted to be done with it lol.
Is the prize any good for beating all them bosses?
Yes, although some might disagree.
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The reward for beating Boss Rush is pretty sweet and might prove helpful in the final boss, but it's in no way essential to the game.
crazy monkey
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^ i have no idea about this. I am currently in layaru temple. How far along i am in the game? Those song of time thing will be instructed to do it or is it a secret?
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Originally Posted by CassSept: View Post
The reward for beating Boss Rush is pretty sweet and might prove helpful in the final boss, but it's in no way essential to the game.
Indeed. I didnt get it at all and I think it made the final battle even more exciting.
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Originally Posted by crazy monkey: View Post
^ i have no idea about this. I am currently in layaru temple. How far along i am in the game? Those song of time thing will be instructed to do it or is it a secret?
Don't worry, it's part of the story.
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lol I played the for the first time in like 6 months I quit after the 3rd dungeon and I remember one thing I realllllllly hate about this game. is the fact that before every dungeon there's like 3 or 4 areas you have to get through... by the time I get to the dungeon I'm tried of playing. I like TP more, and I like okami better than that. I really want Nintendo to do a 3d MM at this point... also an awesome 2d/3d original for the 3ds. Basically the opposite of what they did for the DS Zelda games some of the worse in the series history. Until I see if the Wiiu version of the next Zelda games is different I'm not buyin..
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So, count me in as one of the people who got back to faron woods and was like "the same dungeon again, f this" and wound up not playing for 6 months. I recently beat the game, honestly I think it sucks that you can get to a point in the game were you can't go finish the rest of sidequests/cubes/hearts/etc. It really pisses me off that I have to restart the game and move the story at a snails pace to really complete it fully. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game but that was frustrating.
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Originally Posted by mernst23: View Post
So, count me in as one of the people who got back to faron woods and was like "the same dungeon again, f this" and wound up not playing for 6 months. I recently beat the game, honestly I think it sucks that you can get to a point in the game were you can't go finish the rest of sidequests/cubes/hearts/etc. It really pisses me off that I have to restart the game and move the story at a snails pace to really complete it fully. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game but that was frustrating.
Wait so if I continue with the game I will get to a point where I can't just stop the main quest and do the side quests?

I am up-to the part where a dungeon (or something similar) is formed under the Goddess temple on Skyloft. I still have things on the side I want to do, like the gratitude crystals and some other sidequests.
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Huh? IIRC, the point of no return is pretty much just before the final bosses and Fi will explicitly ask you, if you "are ready". I think you can safely play through the dungeon you just opened. I remember getting back to Skyloft after the events after that dungeon.
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Originally Posted by nan0: View Post
Huh? IIRC, the point of no return is pretty much just before the final bosses and Fi will explicitly ask you, if you "are ready". I think you can safely play through the dungeon you just opened. I remember getting back to Skyloft after the events after that dungeon.
K cool thanks. Btw the dungeon in question is awesome!
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
K cool thanks. Btw the dungeon in question is awesome!
the concept is the best the series has seen in a long time. i wish there was more like it in skyward sword. it's the sort of thing the game was sorely missing.
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Originally Posted by nan0: View Post
Huh? IIRC, the point of no return is pretty much just before the final bosses and Fi will explicitly ask you, if you "are ready". I think you can safely play through the dungeon you just opened. I remember getting back to Skyloft after the events after that dungeon.
Once I finished the dungeon and proceeded to the location of the boss battle, I was unable to return to skyloft.
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Originally Posted by mernst23: View Post
Once I finished the dungeon and proceeded to the location of the boss battle, I was unable to return to skyloft.
Yeah, after the waves of enemies down the "spiral" right? Before that (where the temple is) I'm very sure that I could go back. And since you can't save after you enganged the bosses anyway, you'll still have a save as long as you don't start over in hero mode.
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So now I'm at the point where the Demise has returned and I have the choice to go battle or do other things. I opted out of battle for now.

I have 78 gratitude crystals and havent turned uncle bats into human yet. I also didnt finish the boss and secret realm challenges the dragon from Lanyuru offers. What prize does he offer? The sacred shield?

What am I missing? How do I get the remaining crystals? I used dowsing and can't seem to pick up the scent for anymore crystals.
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
I have 78 gratitude crystals and havent turned uncle bats into human yet. I also didnt finish the boss and secret realm challenges the dragon from Lanyuru offers. What prize does he offer? The sacred shield?
Yes. As said before, its not required, but I found it a nice addition.
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I was in love with this game early on, but I think I'm starting to burn out real quick. I'm working on getting the Sacred Flames right now (just healed Faron), and the idea of all this back-tracking is wearing thin. Not having a lot of fun with the swimming controls either.

Do the dungeons get any better from this point, or is what I've experienced so far par for the course? I love the art style and controls so far, but the dungeon design has been weak, imo.
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Originally Posted by MushroomSamba: View Post
Do the dungeons get any better from this point, or is what I've experienced so far par for the course? I love the art style and controls so far, but the dungeon design has been weak, imo.
You think the dungeon design has been weak? I think it's probably the strongest aspect of the game. I thought the last few dungeons were excellent - the final one is quite neat - but if you haven't been liking them thus far, I doubt your mind will be changed by the end of the game.
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Originally Posted by SecretMoblin: View Post
You think the dungeon design has been weak? I think it's probably the strongest aspect of the game. I thought the last few dungeons were excellent - the final one is quite neat - but if you haven't been liking them thus far, I doubt your mind will be changed by the end of the game.
I shouldn't have said weak, but they've been kind of simple and straightforward so far. I think it's the stuff leading up to the actual dungeons that are grinding me out. Not a fan of all the dowsing fetch quests in here.
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Originally Posted by MushroomSamba: View Post
I shouldn't have said weak, but they've been kind of simple and straightforward so far. I think it's the stuff leading up to the actual dungeons that are grinding me out. Not a fan of all the dowsing fetch quests in here.
They're certainly straightforward, and that design concept is consistent throughout the game. I won't spoil the final dungeon, but it's different enough that it might be enjoyable for you.

And yeah, the pre-dungeon stuff can feel boring and unnecessary. Be prepared for more fetch quests, unfortunately.
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(08-13-2012, 08:18 PM)

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Played this with my g/f this weekend. Got it for 15 bucks and invested in wii m + for 17 bucks. Great deal.

The first 2 hours were bruuuuuutal, and we stopped at the first forest dungeon. We passed the controller back and forth taking turns, but I swear 90% of it was spent reading which sucked that the intro/tutorial area was that long and dull.

I hope the rest of the game is more game being played.
crazy monkey
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how hard it is to implant skip text button really? So much text. I love reading too but give me skip option for some of the repetitive stuff.
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I guess I just know that even if a Zelda game starts of slow, that it's going to be amazing. Nitpicks aside each and every Zelda I have ever played has been a great overall experience.

I'm at the final battle now. At the point where Fi warns me that if I go after Demise I can't come back. I first went back into the sky and finished some of the side quests I had left behind. Kinda scared to go into the final battle. I have two heart potions, one fairy, and one invincible potion. Good enough to proceed?
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
I'm at the final battle now. At the point where Fi warns me that if I go after Demise I can't come back. I first went back into the sky and finished some of the side quests I had left behind. Kinda scared to go into the final battle. I have two heart potions, one fairy, and one invincible potion. Good enough to proceed?
Yes.

It'll go a bit more smoothly if you get the special reward from the thunder dragon.
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Master Link, did you know... Fi Annoys Link
effzee
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Just beat the game. The ending is pretty cool.

The Demise battle wasn't as tough as I thought it would be. Or maybe I scared myself and went into the battle with 1 invincible potion and two ++Heart Potions. Oh and one fairy.

So the takeaway is that Ganondorf is the constant reincarnation of the Demise's curse on Zelda and Link?
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
Just beat the game. The ending is pretty cool.

The Demise battle wasn't as tough as I thought it would be. Or maybe I scared myself and went into the battle with 1 invincible potion and two ++Heart Potions. Oh and one fairy.

So the takeaway is that Ganondorf is the constant reincarnation of the Demise's curse on Zelda and Link?
or whatever villain threatens hyrule. ganondorf is the most long-lived version of the curse though.
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
or whatever villain threatens hyrule. ganondorf is the most long-lived version of the curse though.
Pretty neat way to tie it into the story.

Its hard for me to rank this game overall right now but I found it to be an amazing experience. I played with large breaks in between (like months at a time) so it took me a long time. I also put in total 72 hours and enjoyed doing everything. Definitely one of my favorite games of all time.
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Motion controls almost gave me a nervous breakdown in the final boss. But yeah, in theory is a relatively easy boss.
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About to start Temple of Time(Dungeon 3). Not impressed at all with the game and I have a lot of issues with it. I'll hold out and see if it picks up.
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Originally Posted by Jarmel: View Post
About to start Temple of Time(Dungeon 3). Not impressed at all with the game and I have a lot of issues with it. I'll hold out and see if it picks up.
I just finished that temple. I did not like the game before that too. It took me quite a while( days) to figure out some stuff) It was awesome dungeon.
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Originally Posted by Jarmel: View Post
About to start Temple of Time(Dungeon 3). Not impressed at all with the game and I have a lot of issues with it. I'll hold out and see if it picks up.
It gets much much better.

Originally Posted by olimpia84: View Post
Motion controls almost gave me a nervous breakdown in the final boss. But yeah, in theory is a relatively easy boss.
Well it would have for me but out of fear I took the invincible potion which let me just attack without any worry about losing hearts.

The visual and atmosphere was awesome. The game also had some of the best writing I have seen in a Zelda game.
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Just picked up a copy of this on the weekend and finally have a reason to dust off my Wii. Really enjoying it so far. Looking forward to losing myself in it over the next few weeks.
crazy monkey
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fight with impresioned was awesome. graphics were great.
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Originally Posted by Jarmel: View Post
About to start Temple of Time(Dungeon 3). Not impressed at all with the game and I have a lot of issues with it. I'll hold out and see if it picks up.
That's my favorite dungeon in the whole series. But if you haven't enjoyed that part of the game up to that point, maybe keep your expectations in check.
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I got to the middle of the first dungeon and I feel like the game is pretty boring. Is there any reason to stick with it? I'm barely enjoying it... :(

FYI - I don't want to be dismissive. I get why some people would like this game and production values are amazing, but for some reason it isn't working for me...
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Originally Posted by roman2003h: View Post
I got to the middle of the first dungeon and I feel like the game is pretty boring. Is there any reason to stick with it? I'm barely enjoying it... :(

FYI - I don't want to be dismissive. I get why some people would like this game and production values are amazing, but for some reason it isn't working for me...
It's quite common to find the first dungeon the worst. I found the first area the worst as well. It does get a load better, stick with it!
Bladenic
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(09-01-2012, 05:04 AM)

Bought this from Best Buy at $15 and now I'm getting my Wii this weekend. Ordering a MotionPlus and starting next week. Excited, hope I like it as much as Wind Waker which I adore. But otherwise I'm not huge into Zelda I'm afraid, so we'll see.
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Originally Posted by roman2003h: View Post
I got to the middle of the first dungeon and I feel like the game is pretty boring. Is there any reason to stick with it? I'm barely enjoying it... :(

FYI - I don't want to be dismissive. I get why some people would like this game and production values are amazing, but for some reason it isn't working for me...
Well if you are a fan of the Zelda series then yeah why wouldn't you play past the first dungeon? it gets much better and has probably the most content of any Zelda game.
Metroid Hunter
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(09-03-2012, 09:25 AM)

Holy fuck. It's almost been a year since this game came out. Where has time gone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DAJBU4Wtqg

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We're streaming LoZ 4swords adventures. If anyone is interested.
http://www.twitch.tv/multitaptv
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Picked up this game again after finishing it around release...at Christmas I started a Hero Quest and got past the first two dungeons. So I picked it up on my way to Lanayru.

Game is pretty good overall, but damnit, the music is so good.

I listen to the soundtrack all of the time.

And oddly enough, one of my favorite tracks is the Bamboo cutting game room. So serene. Love it.
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Okay... this is going to sound pretty stupid and confusing but I'm stuck at a really strange part. I just beat the first dungeon for the second time (DAMN YOU BACKTRACKING!) and I'm on my way to return the sacred water. I haven't played for a while so I google'd a walkthrough and it told me to land by the waterfall and to go from there. I have no clue what to do. I've tried playing the harp by the waterfall and jumping into the waterfall but I don't know how to return the water to the dragon. Could someone possibly help? I assume I must be doing something completely wrong. :P
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Originally Posted by Yaceka: View Post
Okay... this is going to sound pretty stupid and confusing but I'm stuck at a really strange part. I just beat the first dungeon for the second time (DAMN YOU BACKTRACKING!) and I'm on my way to return the sacred water. I haven't played for a while so I google'd a walkthrough and it told me to land by the waterfall and to go from there. I have no clue what to do. I've tried playing the harp by the waterfall and jumping into the waterfall but I don't know how to return the water to the dragon. Could someone possibly help? I assume I must be doing something completely wrong. :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIspoFZ317k#t=36m45s