[Gez]

Dam that Antimage carried hard.

Lol at Lions 17 deaths.

[Lirlond]

http://i.imgur.com/rZUph.jpg

Tinker is just. So fun.

[Swag]

Tinker is just. So fun.

No Boots of Travel, Sheepstick, Frostfield plate?

[Kapura]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/rZUph.jpg[img] Tinker is just. So fun.

why would you attach a match results screen to say that?

No Boots of Travel, Sheepstick, Shiva's Guard

ftfy

[Swag]

ftfy

True Dat.

[Guesong]

why would you attach a match results screen to say that?

Seconded.

And Frostfield Plate sounds better.

[Lirlond]

No Boots of Travel, Sheepstick, Frostfield plate?

I was just building whatever, don't like following the recommended at the best of times, wanted to be able to shut down as much as possible while still dealing damage, I was usually on the skirts of the fight with loads between me as I cyclone'd, blinded and silenced enemies.I was going to build boots of travel, but as it approached the end game the aoe mana was better received by the team, so I kept arcane boots.

[Ikuu]

I was just building whatever, don't like following the recommended at the best of times, wanted to be able to shut down as much as possible while still dealing damage, I was usually on the skirts of the fight with loads between me as I cyclone'd, blinded and silenced enemies.I was going to build boots of travel, but as it approached the end game the aoe mana was better received by the team, so I kept arcane boots.

You do know what a Sheepstick does right? BoT are core on Tinker, like you need them to really make the hero good.

[Lirlond]

You do know what a Sheepstick does right? BoT are core on Tinker, like you need them to really make the hero good.

How do the boots make him good?

[Gez]

Does Vladamirs Offering work on Anti-Mage? I think just the mask part is an orb. But Vlamdir's Offering itself isn't?

[frostythecat]

How do the boots make him good?

Rearm works on items as well. You can use the boots to teleport anywhere, helping with ganks or pushing or supporting your teammates, then rearm and teleport anywhere else. And where you are about to out of mana, boots of travel back to base, heal up mana, rearm and continue supporting, ganking and pushing.

I believe boots of travel and bottle(refills bottle charges) are core items for tinker.

[Lirlond]

Rearm works on items as well. You can use the boots to teleport anywhere, helping with ganks or pushing or supporting your teammates, then rearm and teleport anywhere else. And where you are about to out of mana, boots of travel back to base, heal up mana, rearm and continue supporting, ganking and pushing. I believe boots of travel and bottle(refills bottle charges) are core items for tinker.

Did not know this.

[Procarbine]

How do the boots make him good?

Pretty much what frosty said. You use rearm to reset the cooldown on the BoTs and go back and forth from well to lanes refilling your bottle to farm out of control and gank almost anywhere very very rapidly.

Does Vladamirs Offering work on Anti-Mage? I think just the mask part is an orb. But Vlamdir's Offering itself isn't?

Yes it does, but get it later rather than sooner, he needs survivability and damage first to make it useful.

[x3r0123]

Rearm works on items as well. You can use the boots to teleport anywhere, helping with ganks or pushing or supporting your teammates, then rearm and teleport anywhere else. And where you are about to out of mana, boots of travel back to base, heal up mana, rearm and continue supporting, ganking and pushing. I believe boots of travel and bottle(refills bottle charges) are core items for tinker.

except for bkb iirc

[Saucy_XL]

Does Vladamirs Offering work on Anti-Mage? I think just the mask part is an orb. But Vlamdir's Offering itself isn't?

Yes and the extra Mana Break damage is physical so you get lifesteal from it as well. (True in Dota, not 100% sure for Dota 2)

[Kapura]

vladamir's offering and skeleton king's aura both count as aura effects, not orbs. So you can pick up a separate orb beyond the lifesteal.

[Procarbine]

vladamir's offering and skeleton king's aura both count as aura effects, not orbs. So you can pick up a separate orb beyond the lifesteal.

AM already has an orb kappy, dont confuse people.

[Swag]

Did not know this.

Should read the guides in the OP! It's explained.

AM already has an orb kappy, dont confuse people.

Must be what Alumnus was talking about.

[Lirlond]

Should read the guides in the OP! It's explained.

I randomed him, didn't really have the time to alt tab out, and check a guide.

[Neki]

I randomed him, didn't really have the time to alt tab out, and check a guide.

don't random then

easy solution

[Lirlond]

don't random then easy solution

But I /like/ randoming.

[Haly]

Doombringer, the universal counter.

(I was going to pick some int hero until I saw that they picked spec, bs and am.)

[Togglesworlh]

But I /like/ randoming.

Nope. You're not allowed to have fun. This is Dota.

[Guesong]

Should read the guides in the OP! It's explained.

Isn't it already explained when you hover over his ultimate anyways?

[Swag]

Nope. You're not allowed to have fun. This is Dota.

Fun mostly at the expense of your team, sure is Dota.

Isn't it already explained when you hover over his ultimate anyways?

Yeah but if your newer you probably wouldn't realize until late into the game / second game playing him.

[shagg_187]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before or not but the lack of Juggernaut in OP is killing me...

[Togglesworlh]

Fun mostly at the expense of your team, sure is Dota.

lol

[Blackface]

Valve really does need to program the bots to be more realistic.

They see through invisibility.
They run the moment you ping them to get your dumb bots to attack
The bots on your team don't defend
They run faster then you no matter if your items are the same
They ignore the fog of war and see through it
They auto stun you if you begin to channel even if you are out of their LOS

just to name a few problems.

[shagg_187]

Whoever recommended me to use Pudge: Thanks! :D

Read the guide over at playdota and now I'm pretty decent at it.

[Kapura]

Valve really does need to program the bots to be more realistic. They see through invisibility. They run the moment you ping them to get your dumb bots to attack The bots on your team don't defend They run faster then you no matter if your items are the same They ignore the fog of war and see through it They auto stun you if you begin to channel even if you are out of their LOS just to name a few problems.

bolded are behaviours I've never encountered with bots in any of the dozen-or-so games I'm played with them. They are mostly dumb, yeah, but they don't cheat :/

[Stahsky]

Valve really does need to program the bots to be more realistic. They see through invisibility. They run the moment you ping them to get your dumb bots to attack The bots on your team don't defend They run faster then you no matter if your items are the same They ignore the fog of war and see through it They auto stun you if you begin to channel even if you are out of their LOS just to name a few problems.

None of this is true

[Gez]

Things i want to see

-Lines for the shopkeeper (i heard this was happening). Each hero currently has 4.30 to 12 minutes of lines. I want something similar for the shopkeeper where he talks about each and every item. Sort of like he did in the Gamescon trailer.

-Surrender option whether its 4/5 votes or like HoNs, i want to see it implemented.

-Full stats system that tells K/D, leaves, denys, ect etc.

-Unless i'm blind and its there, the game needs a replay system.

-Hero select needs to be cleaned up a tiny bit. I don't like it how you have to scroll down for the Bio. Left hand side where the hero select is fine but like little things need adding on the right side like adding a ranged or melee icons. And a summary of their skills when you go over them. I know there is a skill tab (that doesn't exist yet), but I'm talking about having it all on one page.

-Beastmaster looks retarded, not asking for a full change, just the face. I'm going to avoid this hero because of how dumb he looks.

-The game needs a full proper clan system, with officers, leaders. Having played League, chat rooms dont cut it for me. Steam groups doesn't cut it aswell considering it doesn't integrate fully with the game.

-There needs to be a way to tell whos in game (not available) and whos online like HoN/LoL.

*Look 20 gaffers are on!*
*"Hey there IH?"*
*(crickets) no one answers*
*"But there are 20 people online!

[Drkirby]

Yeah, the bots don't cheat. What they do do is buy wards, and have really fast reflexes. I'm a bit glad Valve doesn't make them Deny Perfectly, I'm sure they could if they wanted to.

-Unless i'm blind and its there, the game needs a replay system.

It has one, but it is a bit burred. Goto Watch, Recent, and Filter for your own names (Filter takes a few times to really work, could be better), and most of your games should have an option to download the replay.

[shagg_187]

Yep... I'm a Pudge-packing monster. Getting a hand of it, so good!

[Blackface]

None of this is true

It actually is true, and various people are complaining about it. It is beta though. Go try it all yourself.

I am going to make a few videos of some of their issues. The invisibility one is the biggest problem.

[Kapura]

It actually is true, and various people are complaining about it. It is beta though. Go try it all yourself. I am going to make a few videos of some of their issues. The invisibility one is the biggest problem.

Analogous statement:
"9/11 actually was done by the american government, and various people complain about it."

I have never experienced any of the issues I bolded above. The issue, again, is not that the bots cheat, but that they are dumb shits.

[Hylian7]

I was showing a friend the game today by playing in an all-AI match. The AI's are either ridiculously insane towerdiving maniacs or complete morons. They are on opposite ends of the spectrum at the worst times. When two heroes are chasing me to my inner tower during the LANING PHASE while the outer tower is still up, there is something wrong with that. Were they human players, they would have backed off by then, and if not my team probably would have been there to help me by that time.

Also, I tried Dragon Knight for the first time. He is a lot of fun! Definitely going to be playing him in the next GAF inhouse and matchmaking. Love his voice being the Vortigaunt voice.

[Aegus]

So pretty new to Dota 2 (I have some minimal LoL experience), and I find that I seem pretty shit against bots. Bots just seem to just zero in on me and ignore everyone else.

So anyway it feels that Dota 2 is a lot harsher when it comes to getting killed. Seems so much easier to die. Once I get my scripts up and running I could be fine, but my main confusion is the items. Is it best to follow the guide in game or should I try and memorise a guide elsewhere?

Oh and the characters I tend to favour are your long range carrys (so Drow/WR types).

[raphier]

None of this is true

Zeus knows when your health is low, no matter what. Bots know always where you are. Tidehunter blinks with precision from woods on you, zeus always strikes you dead if you're below 22-33% and his Ulti is available, Razor is always controlling the midlane, Radiant AI never tries to tower dive, unlike Dire.

Besides, no matter what programmers tell you, The code is always aware of player stats.

[Swag]

There's a fix for alt tab crashing on the Dev forums

May wanna check it out if it's still giving you issues.

[Lirlond]

So pretty new to Dota 2 (I have some minimal LoL experience), and I find that I seem pretty shit against bots. Bots just seem to just zero in on me and ignore everyone else. So anyway it feels that Dota 2 is a lot harsher when it comes to getting killed. Seems so much easier to die. Once I get my scripts up and running I could be fine, but my main confusion is the items. Is it best to follow the guide in game or should I try and memorise a guide elsewhere? Oh and the characters I tend to favour are your long range carrys (so Drow/WR types).

Scripts for what?

[Drkirby]

You know, Zeus plus AA would likely be a pretty potent combo of ults. Get a few people low, hit them will AA's ball, then have Zeus use his Lightning.

[AtomHeart]

I've played a grand total of three bot matches so far and damn, this game is fun. The bots absolutely wreck me because my reactions aren't up to scratch at the moment, after a few more bot matches I'll head into some proper matches so I can get flamed by my team mates, yeah!

[x3r0123]

You know, Zeus plus AA would likely be a pretty potent combo of ults. Get a few people low, hit them will AA's ball, then have Zeus use his Lightning.

that strat already exists and its called global strat

[Spookie]

Every game today appears to have NS. He appeared in Dreamhack then?

[Kapura]

yes

[Aegus]

Scripts for what?

I actually thought scripts were needed for self-casting, but just noticed the double press to self cast in the options. so just ignore me.

[Lirlond]

I actually thought scripts were needed for self-casting, but just noticed the double press to self cast in the options. so just ignore me.

It's super buggy. Don't use it for now.

[Ikuu]

It's super buggy. Don't use it for now.

You need to double press the key without interruption, so if you try and double click while moving and right-click between the presses it resets.

[Spookie]

So, so very tired of the pugs today. Worse than dog shit. Huge 20+ kill deficits and so much feeding.

So, so very tired.