Zefah
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Originally Posted by Dunan: View Post
Zefah, I just tried this and the game boots up in English, as normal.

El Shaddai supposedly has multiple languages on the Japanese disc without any way to get at them normally, if you want to try experimenting with that game.

(Aside: games that automatically start up in the language your system is in are inexcusable. If your system is in Japanese and you put in the NA Assassin's Creed it, you'll actually get an error message implying that the disc is unreadable. Had me panicking for a moment until I noticed that it was just Ubi being braindead. Contrast this with Vanquish, which has half a dozen languages on it, and gives you the chance to choose the one you want as soon as you start the game, and at any other time you like. What are you thinking, Ubi? At least they don't do it based on IP geolocation. That would have me breaking the disk in half and stomping on it.)
Thanks, Dunan!

I agree that having language options in the actual game menus is best for everyone.
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The Fragment of Invincibility is from Immortal, the requirements for the quest are: Defeat all three Gigantuars and speak to the Hunter outside the Chocobo pen in the Nomad Camp. If you decide to begin the side quest directly afterwards, you may need to exit to the Historia Crux and return to trigger Myta's request. Hope this helps!


guys what is this... I have the big cactus, but she will not talk to me.... :(
It should be the girl that's right next to the warp in spot that gives you that quest. She's surrounded by sheep when it's raining.
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Next issue of famitsu will feature an interview with Nomura. Although mainly for the upcoming KH3D, it is still possible to have some info for VersusXIII...(Press conference please..)
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Originally Posted by toleoring: View Post
Next issue of famitsu will feature an interview with Nomura. Although mainly for the upcoming KH3D, it is still possible to have some info for VersusXIII...(Press conference please..)
Hype.
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Good GOD, they weren't joking about the Paradox Ending fight with Caius at Oerba 200.

DAMN.
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
Good GOD, they weren't joking about the Paradox Ending fight with Caius at Oerba 200.

DAMN.
the paradox fight in chapter 5 are much harder .. A dying world caius paradox i managed to beat him by SAB a lot and wound him so that he wont recover all his lfe all the time.
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Clock puzzles are the devil.
Yoshichan
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Might as-well post my impressions of the game - starting everything of by saying wow.

I hyped the living crap out of this game so I was pretty much setting myself up for a disappointment. It's not. Although the gameplay is slightly worse than its predecessor, I find everything in XIII-2 a lot better. Caius is a villain I hated at start but grew to love and now he's one of my favorite FF-villains (his theme song helps a lot!). Speaking of music, I was really expecting the soundtrack to suck but boy was I wrong. This isn't hyperbole, I swear: I think it's the best soundtrack this gen - no joke. Every theme song is REALLY good and the fact that almost every "overworld"-song has two versions of it makes it brilliant. I love every part of the soundtrack.

Needless to say, I found the ending interesting - but I also love these types of endings. AMAZING game, didn't disappoint at all. A GotY-contender without a doubt.

edit: I also loved the clock puzzles for some reason...
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Save us, Lord Nomura-sama.
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So what are you guys pumping into your SYN monsters? I've been using Potent materials but should I be using Magic? Does SYN benefit from Magic? Really wish they would tell you which materials benefit which roles...
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
Save us, Lord Nomura-sama.
If Versus doesn't have any sort of showing soon, I'm more worried about Lord Nomura-sama saving himself, before he saves anyone else. :P
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Originally Posted by Kronotech: View Post
So what are you guys pumping into your SYN monsters? I've been using Potent materials but should I be using Magic? Does SYN benefit from Magic? Really wish they would tell you which materials benefit which roles...
I've just been giving my SYN (Yakshini) health so that he can buff the crap out of the group without needing to heal
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(03-11-2012, 12:18 AM)

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WTF at the strength of the Tonberries in this game. For fuck sake are they strong....
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WTF at the strength of the Tonberries in this game. For fuck sake are they strong....
Immune to provoke too, right?
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Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
If Versus doesn't have any sort of showing soon, I'm more worried about Lord Nomura-sama saving himself, before he saves anyone else. :P
Versus was announced 6 years ago right?

I was in bloody junior high when it was announced. I'm in university now, and pretty soon i'll be living on my own.

Fffffffffeh.
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Originally Posted by Yoshichan: View Post
I've just been giving my SYN (Yakshini) health so that he can buff the crap out of the group without needing to heal
Yeah, magic doesn't seem to effect their casting, so it makes sense to give them health.
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Yeesh, how many times did it take any Lightning buyers to get her crystal? I'm coming up on 20 tries and NOTHING.
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edit sorry wrong thread
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Yoshichan
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
Yeesh, how many times did it take any Lightning buyers to get her crystal? I'm coming up on 20 tries and NOTHING.
Got a 610/610 (?) on my second try <,<
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It's to the point where I'm not even that excited for Versus anymore. It's practically the Duke Nukem Forever of JRPG's. There's no guarantee that it will even be good! And even if it is, does it justify such a long wait? I sincerely doubt it. So silly that for all these years we are riding a hype train based on merely assumption provided by a very narrow set of details. AFAIK, it's basically a Kingdom Hearts 1 + FF hybrid. Might prove to be crap, might prove to be amazing, might just more or less be a HD Crisis Core. I don't know. I do know that I didn't like Kingdom Hearts much when I played it on PS2.

The best thing about Versus so far is without a doubt the art and overall style, imo. It reminds me of FFVII, in a good way. But that alone does not make a good game. I'm sure the OST will be amazing as well.

I love XIII-2, and while I haven't had much time lately to finally finish it, I think it's getting too much hate. That said, I can't pretend that Square-Enix hasn't made a lot of mistakes over the past few years. It's very troubling. FFXIII was far too streamlined, did way too much hand holding, and, to me, reeked of being incomplete despite taking so long to come out. FFXIII-2 is selling like crap, probably because so many people were turned off by XIII. People are starting to lose faith in Versus not only being good but actually surfacing. It's just all quite silly.

Frankly, if Versus gets delayed yet again they might want to consider making it a first-gen title for Xbox 720/PS4... I used to say that jokingly but it might actually be a good idea now.
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I really haven't seen XIII-2 getting much hate, outside of backlashes to the insane ending.

I enjoyed XIII anyway, so YMMV. I'm fairly confident Versus XIII is coming. I just don't know when. But that last trailer implies they've at least got a good idea of where it's going, and the gameplay does look fun(assuming it stays that way).

Also, god that trailer looks good in HD.
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
I really haven't seen XIII-2 getting much hate, outside of backlashes to the insane ending.

I enjoyed XIII anyway, so YMMV.
That's probably because no one played the game :p
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Yeah. Not a big fan of the cameos

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I gotta say, I think this game's a 6 out of 10. I've finished it and frankly it never lived up to the promise I believe it initially had.
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just finished the secret ending ...

The game is a solid 8/10

Would have been a 9.25/10 if they just stopped at Serah death .. She would have been a tragic heroine , caius would have fought for what he believed after seeing countless yeuls and noel might have gone on a journey to find "his" yeul ... Cocoon would had been saved ..everything would have been perfect ..and they still could have done another game afterwards if they wanted ...

If not for that part the game has been trully enjoyable... not perfect but enjoyable.

NOw all i'm missing is "big hitter" for my plat
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If they stopped at "that", like you suggest, the plot would turn incoherent at best. The entire game you're told what will happen if you do a "certain" thing, and you say it'll be better if while telling you that at every turn, in the end the ending itself should've just ignored that to give you a cheesy happy ending?

I'm glad they did what they did. That ending was so good for me that justified all the crap that came before it.
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Originally Posted by Perfo: View Post
If they stopped at "that", like you suggest, the plot would turn incoherent at best. The entire game you're told what will happen if you do a "certain" thing, and you say it'll be better if while telling you that at every turn, in the end the ending itself should've just ignored that to give you a cheesy happy ending?

I'm glad they did what they did. That ending was so good for me that justified all the crap that came before it.
i though the point of travelling was to prevent that "certain" thing to happen..
it's why they travel.. prevent a castastrophe and a bad future by preventing an unprepared fall of cocoon.
I mean the future was already in "death mode" since the start ( otherwise noel wouldn't be there ) so i'm asking for them to change this.
The future is dead , so if you act the future is dead ? If you do nothing , caius ( throw cocoon at the ark , or cocoon fall by itself ).. i fail to see a story where everywhere you go ,everything you try lead to the same result.

And ending games on such a note without a real chance that we get a end ( or sequel ) is something that disapoint me a great deal.
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Originally Posted by R_thanatos: View Post
i though the point of travelling was to prevent that "certain" thing to happen..
it's why they travel.. prevent a castastrophe and a bad future by preventing an unprepared fall of cocoon.
I mean the future was already in "death mode" since the start ( otherwise noel wouldn't be there ) so i'm asking for them to change this.
The future is dead , so if you act the future is dead ? If you do nothing , caius ( throw cocoon at the ark , or cocoon fall by itself ).. i fail to see a story where everywhere you go ,everything you try lead to the same result.

And ending games on such a note without a real chance that we get a end ( or sequel ) is something that disapoint me a great deal.
Maybe you didn't get the plot, but they weren't trying to protect the Goddess, just to save the people of Pulse from the fall of Cocoon. That's exactly what they achieve, thanks to changing the future they help Hope creating a new artificial Cocoon where people from Pulse can seek repair. And they do, they save the future and the people with it. There's one little problem in there: Caius had other plans. There are pratically two endings mixin' up in there, the good one with Serah's dying where the new Cocoon and the people in it still lives - basically the reason why the journey started - and the one that follows where Chaos spread out from Valhalla - something no one expected and so no one tried to evade. What's bad about this? It's bad just if you don't want XIII-3 I guess.
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I honestly think after playing Sazh's DLC that (ending spoilers) this really is an Empire Strikes Back ending, and we've got one awesome Return of the Jedi esque finale coming up. Things are really dark now, but many events still imply(if not outright say) that there is still cause for hope. Nothing is over yet.
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Originally Posted by R_thanatos: View Post
NOw all i'm missing is "big hitter" for my plat
You should be able to get it when trying to the Long Gui (debuff, buff).
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
I honestly think after playing Sazh's DLC that (ending spoilers) this really is an Empire Strikes Back ending, and we've got one awesome Return of the Jedi esque finale coming up. Things are really dark now, but many events still imply(if not outright say) that there is still cause for hope. Nothing is over yet.
I guess thats how it was planned, but with the super shitty sales ...
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Originally Posted by desu: View Post
I guess thats how it was planned, but with the super shitty sales ...
"Shitty sales" should be around 1,5 million worldwide, I don't think they have any problem letting a secondary team develop XIII-3 while being busy with more important projects. You know, Tri-Ace is always there to give an hand.
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Originally Posted by Yoshichan: View Post
You should be able to get it when trying to the Long Gui (debuff, buff).
Well i got it ..debuf , buff weren't enough .. i had to use 3 powerwrist to get a +30% strenght

Originally Posted by Perfo: View Post
Maybe you didn't get the plot, but they weren't trying to protect the Goddess, just to save the people of Pulse from the fall of Cocoon. That's exactly what they achieve, thanks to changing the future they help Hope creating a new artificial Cocoon where people from Pulse can seek repair. And they do, they save the future and the people with it. There's one little problem in there: Caius had other plans. There are pratically two endings mixin' up in there, the good one with Serah's dying where the new Cocoon and the people in it still lives - basically the reason why the journey started - and the one that follows where Chaos spread out from Valhalla - something no one expected and so no one tried to evade. What's bad about this? It's bad just if you don't want XIII-3 I guess.
Well what i am referencing is the first part of that plot ...And as you said it's achieved in this game ..the second part with caius was presented and explained too but it's a dumb move to give me the choice to forgive him or not if i'm forced to watch the rest afterwards.
For me the caius parts were "just ok" i enjoyed them more trying to prevent a bad future.Caius having other plans is obvious ... I didn't say that it was bad in that sense ...just that they didn't cut it properly IMO ( if they plan to do a sequel )

The state they were ( full of hope ) after caius death was too much .. and serah dying after witnessing the next future was IMO perfect .. however the 20 seconds afterwards were unnecessary (IMO) it wouldn't have been a good ending anyway because ( lightining ? snow ? fang & vanille ? , etro ? new protector ? ) everything is in a mess. i wouldn't count that as a good ending at all.
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Yoshichan
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Originally Posted by R_thanatos: View Post
Well i got it ..debuf , buff weren't enough .. i had to use 3 powerwrist to get a +30% strenght
Haha, yeah I have that equipped at all times so :p

edit: also, spoiler tags.
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Originally Posted by R_thanatos: View Post
however the 20 seconds afterwards were unnecessary (IMO)
To change those 20 seconds in the ending all the plot related to Caius' should've been different though. And Caius is the best thing in that story...
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Originally Posted by Perfo: View Post
To change those 20 seconds in the ending all the plot related to Caius' should've been different though. And Caius is the best thing in that story...
Why change ? Just cut it and use it afterwards if you plan to do a sequel..

i'm not asking for a change i'm asking for them to leave it for later that what they should have done IMO.

Anyway what's done is done..i just think it's bad to leave people on such an impression ..at least there is the to be continued but still ...
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Originally Posted by R_thanatos: View Post
Why change ? Just cut it and use it afterwards if you plan to do a sequel..
If they cut and then use it afterwards, we'd get dozens of pages full of "retcon garbage!"
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Originally Posted by Fdkn: View Post
If they cut and then use it afterwards, we'd get dozens of pages full of "retcon garbage!"
This.

R_thanatos, you still haven't fixed your spoilers :)
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(03-11-2012, 11:20 PM)

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Does the difficulty of these puzzles decrease the more you fail?

Especially with the randomised clock numbers where at the start I get hard numbers with too many 6 and 5 numbers but as I fail I get more 4 and 3 numbers and in the end no 5 or 6 numbers anymore?
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Has anyone else noticed the song playing in the Colosseum (The Book of Prophecies) is very similar to Bjork's All Neon Like?

Check it out:

Book of Prophecies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2j1yUGCQZY
Bjork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JvY928-Y#t=27s

Every time I hear the song in the game I keep thinking I'm going to hear the beat from Bjork... lol. The backround ambience stuff is very similar.
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Originally Posted by Lightning: View Post
Does the difficulty of these puzzles decrease the more you fail?
Not really you might want to fail to get a easier one but it changes randomly.
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Final boss fight question: I get owned by Tetraflare every time. WTF? How do I even survive this?

edit: Well, nevermind that. I wasn't using wound potions at first and didn't have a paradigm set up properly... this is a tough battle. Need to level a COM role just a bit more...
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Originally Posted by Diablos: View Post
Final boss fight question: I get owned by Tetraflare every time. WTF? How do I even survive this?

edit: Well, nevermind that. I wasn't using wound potions at first and didn't have a paradigm set up properly... this is a tough battle. Need to level a COM role just a bit more...
I was going to say, it got me the first time as well. Wound Potions + 3x Sentinel is what you do.
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Originally Posted by Diablos: View Post
Has anyone else noticed the song playing in the Colosseum (The Book of Prophecies) is very similar to Bjork's All Neon Like?

Check it out:

Book of Prophecies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2j1yUGCQZY
Bjork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JvY928-Y#t=27s

Every time I hear the song in the game I keep thinking I'm going to hear the beat from Bjork... lol. The backround ambience stuff is very similar.
So does that mean that we get to fight and recruit Bjork in our party too? Awesome.
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I've played a couple hours and...I think I like it way better than its predecessor.

It's like Assassin's Creed all over again (which I immensely enjoyed the 2 compared t the first I loathed)
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Just bought Jihl Nabaat DLC. file size is 16MB.
She is tough! She can summon various monsters including a behemoth and use multiple stats attacks; Her special move is strong too..I am still in the battle now....I think it's gonna be a long fight...

update1: My RAV/COM/RAV+ RAV/RAV/RAV are useless. Her stagger gauge moves super slowly...

update2: err..I'm dead.....have to put some serious thinking on the strategy for it.

edited to mention: my party members are lv 99 (all roles) Noel+Serah, lv.13 Lightening, lv.99 gold chocobo and a lv.45 SEN monster..

I thought it might be at the same level as Lightning DLC so I didn't pay much attention. It turned out I was totally wrong..
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Nabaat DLC video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegsRbQH31w

Nabaat in a fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5nxpGfHLpE

(courtesy of gamefaqs)
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daaang those are some low #s
time to reunite kitase/nojima/nomura :<
Tribes of Trusty
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Is it possible to entirely complete the game on your first playthrough ?
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Originally Posted by Edvardelis: View Post
I was going to say, it got me the first time as well. Wound Potions + 3x Sentinel is what you do.
Combat Clinic (SAB/MED/MED) works well, too.

I need to, as I said, level a little more and get a ton of potions and phoenix downs.