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Flek · Jan 5, 2012

So yeha, i have to write and talk about one artist/painter (i have to chose) of the 21 Century who had at least 1 big influential art piece in the last 10 years. It isn´t a must but would be good if he had done Figurative Art.

As i said i can freely chose one, but unfortunately iam totally lacking the knowledge of 21 century art so please art gaf recommend me some good artists

OrangeGrayBlue · Jan 5, 2012

If we're merely talking on levels of influence, I don't think there's an acceptable answer outside of Shepard Fairey or Banksy. Then again, I'm not really an expert.

Kusagari · Jan 5, 2012

Rob Liefeld.

electroplankton · Jan 5, 2012

Maurizio Cattelan - Him (2001):

Damien Hirst - For The Love of God (2007):

Salazar · Jan 5, 2012

I would say Jeffrey Smart, but his work in the last ten years is eclipsed by his stuff in the 80s and early 90s.

amar212 · Jan 5, 2012

You should choose Bosnian/Croatian master Mersad Berber.

He's absolutely a 20th century master, but since he's still working, exhibiting and getting Grand Prix awards worldwide, he should fit into your search.

He is a unique but humble genius and his multi-technique work is really something worth exploring.

Flek · Jan 5, 2012

awesome ideas so far (besides the comic book guy) i know for example that others want to talk about Gerhard richter

Popstar · Jan 5, 2012

Takashi Murakami has been a fairly influential artist. Especially through his his whole "superflat" concept which was from the year 2000 or so. He's also had a more traditional art education and career than someone like Shepard Fairey if that matters.

James Jean seems to be the current artist of worship for every concept artist in the entertainment industry. But I have no idea if he's even been heard of in the more insular 'high art' world.

Count Dookkake · Jan 5, 2012

Dr Heiter.

GrotesqueBeauty · Jan 5, 2012

Personally, I'm partial to Jerome Witkin.

noah111 · Jan 5, 2012

Banksy.

lol?

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Lime · Jan 5, 2012

I would probably say James Jean.

zoukka · Jan 5, 2012

I can roll with Banksy.

Count Dookkake · Jan 5, 2012

It was pretty wild seeing Banksy stuff before he was "Banksy the famous artist guy." It was just so weird and funny to see it popping up with no explanation.

Fritz · Jan 5, 2012

Damien Hirst hands down.

exhume · Jan 5, 2012

Camille Rose Garcia, Mark Ryden, Ron English, kozyndan and Dominic McGill would be my picks.

Also everyone in your class will probably do Banksy.

noah111 · Jan 5, 2012

Count Dookkake said:
It was pretty wild seeing Banksy stuff before he was "Banksy the famous artist guy." It was just so weird and funny to see it popping up with no explanation.

Yeah, most definitely. I remember a few of those days, it had a lot more impact that way imo..

Witchfinder General · Jan 5, 2012

electroplankton said:
Damien Hirst - For The Love of God (2007):

Troll post.

Seraphinianus · Jan 5, 2012

Sentry said:
Yeah, most definitely. I remember a few of those days, it had a lot more impact that way imo..

part of the problem is that Banksy is emulated so much for commercial purposes. I'm very sick of seeing "contrast two things" everywhere, especially on "designer" t-shirts. It's like, come up with two things that contrast to make some statement + vector art (or some other popular style) and bam! money. It's just unfortunate for Banksy that coming up with two meaningfully contrasting things is so easy. And I'm not lodging a "my kid could do that" criticism because he came up with it first. It's more like the guy who came up with the first napkin was brilliant, but it's not exactly difficult to reproduce the concept.

of course, the imitators can't/don't do the awesome public placement of work like Banksy.

zoukka · Jan 5, 2012

All known masters are commercialized at some point and imitations rise instantly. It doesn't make the origian works less meaningful.

Count Dookkake · Jan 5, 2012

Smision said:
part of the problem is that Banksy is emulated so much for commercial purposes. I'm very sick of seeing "contrast two things" everywhere, especially on "designer" t-shirts. It's like, come up with two things that contrast to make some statement + vector art (or some other popular style) and bam! money. It's just unfortunate for Banksy that coming up with two meaningfully contrasting things is so easy. And I'm not lodging a "my kid could do that" criticism because he came up with it first. It's more like the guy who came up with the first napkin was brilliant, but it's not exactly difficult to reproduce the concept.

of course, the imitators can't/don't do the awesome public placement of work like Banksy.

I understand your complaint completely, particularly the bolded.

Seraphinianus · Jan 5, 2012

zoukka said:
All known masters are commercialized at some point and imitations rise instantly. It doesn't make the origian works less meaningful.

of course, and just in case you think I'm saying his work is less meaningful, I'm definitely not. I've kind of grown to hate stuff like almost every artist on threadless and the other ways in which his style is used. His work still impresses me and his ability to stay anonymous is pretty awesome too.

The interesting part about banksy's commercialization is that I feel like it's everywhere and dispersed in higher concentrations compared to other commercialized artists. It's so easy to make cool t-shirts, hoodies, and advertisements with Banksy-type work. I feel like it's always in my face, but I also live in a trendy part of town.

Fritz · Jan 5, 2012

Count Dookkake said:
I understand your complaint completely, particularly the bolded.

True story:

Years ago my flatmate took a traffic sign banksy stenciled one of the early rats on here in Berlin. Through some loophole he got the city to transfer the property rights to him, then sold it for an incredible sum. I would have to pull the exact number out of my ass so I just leave it as is but it was enough to open his own high-end art gallery.

One of the few cases where money actually lay on the streets and he picked it up. So jealous.

electroplankton · Jan 5, 2012

Ai Weiwei.

Fritz · Jan 5, 2012

This isn't going to be one of those threads where we will never learn what the OP chose eventually, is it Flek?

Maximilian E. · Jan 5, 2012

Banksy

noah111 · Jan 5, 2012

Fritz said:
This isn't going to be one of those threads where we will never learn what the OP chose eventually, is it Flek?

It probably will be.

It probably will......

Flek · Jan 5, 2012

probably won´t be such a thread fritz

ban sky would be a good choice but i have to talk to the prof if thats ok or not.

Otherwise iam still looking at the recommended artists. Takashi Murakami looks like a fun choice too.

Maybe someone know a graphic designer gone artist (or vise versa) that i could use !? Would be more in my focus of interests

Important: A fellower informed me that it has to be a PAINTER so guys like Ai Weiwei are out

Ashes · Jan 5, 2012

Flek said:
So yeha, i have to write and talk about one artist/painter (i have to chose) of the 21 Century who had at least 1 big influential art piece in the last 10 years. It isn´t a must but would be good if he had done Figurative Art.

As i said i can freely chose one, but unfortunately iam totally lacking the knowledge of 21 century art so please art gaf recommend me some good artists

Are you asking us to do part of your homework for you?

Flek · Jan 5, 2012

Ashes1396 said:
Are you asking us to do part of your homework for you?

no unless you want to write about this (not yet chosen) artists and do a presentation for me.

Ashes · Jan 5, 2012

Flek said:
no unless you want to write about this (not yet chosen) artists and do a presentation for me.

So not even part of it... now you're chancing on full on help?

ah what do I care...

This is a bit more efficient than a search engine I suppose. Good luck with the whole thing.

freenudemacusers · Jan 5, 2012

probably hirst, maybe murakami. bansky wouldn't be wrong but you'll probably be one of twenty papers talking about him.

Fritz · Jan 5, 2012

Painters only would certainly point to Murakami. He does sculptures and videos but he is predominantly a painter imo.

Snowman Prophet of Doom · Jan 5, 2012

I'm not sure how much of Zhiwei Tu's output is from the 21st century, but... him.

Popstar · Jan 5, 2012

This thread has gotten me curious.

Has Hirst ever really done much painting? His dot paintings where mostly done by other people on his direction. Are there any Hirst portraits or whatever from early in his career out there?

SolKane · Jan 5, 2012

Kind of hard to estimate influence over a period of but 11 years, but I'd say Doris Salcedo is worth mentioning.

cutmeamango · Jan 5, 2012

12 years in only is too early.

But from the 20th century, even if not the most important, I'd say Francis Bacon. He was something else AND great.

freenudemacusers · Jan 5, 2012

cutmeamango said:
12 years in only is too early.

But from the 20th century, even if not the most important, I'd say Francis Bacon. He was something else AND great.

This I can agree with.

Ill Saint · Jan 5, 2012

Popstar said:
Has Hirst ever really done much painting? His dot paintings where mostly done by other people on his direction. Are there any Hirst portraits or whatever from early in his career out there?

Some of his paintings were revealed a few years ago. They were laughably amateurish and almost universally ridiculed.
Have a breeze. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8306638.stm

SUPREME1 · Jan 5, 2012

Banksy belongs in a cage with all other destroyers of private property.

Fuck him and his awesome politically charged graffiti.

electroplankton · Jan 5, 2012

Though don't know to what extent they have influential pieces of art, I'd add to my suggestion Julie Mehretu, and Karel Appel.

lunarworks · Jan 5, 2012

Yup. Banksy. Say what you will, but his art has had a definite impact worldwide.

Atramental · Jan 5, 2012

cutmeamango said:
12 years in only is too early.

But from the 20th century, even if not the most important, I'd say Francis Bacon. He was something else AND great.

Definitely agree.

One of my favorite mid-to-late 20th century artists.

thomaser · Jan 5, 2012

My favourite is Pushwagner. A very, very eccentric Norwegian artist who is well-educated, but who became so damaged by alcohol and drugs that he spent many years living on the street in Oslo. Suddenly, around 10 years ago, he was "discovered", and now, at over 70, he's rich and famous. And still extremely weird.

I wish I had larger images of these first two pictures. They have an insane amount of detail. Lots of images here.

"Jobkill":

Self portrait:

"Honk City":

Edit: Wait, you said 21st century. Most of his works were made in the 1970s-80s. Sorry. But he wasn't famous or even known before 2000 or so. And he's still working at a great tempo.

Popstar · Jan 6, 2012

Ill Saint said:
Some of his paintings were revealed a few years ago. They were laughably amateurish and almost universally ridiculed.
Have a breeze. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8306638.stm

Damien Hirst needs to get himself a deviantart page.

electroplankton said:
Though don't know to what extent they have influential pieces of art, I'd add to my suggestion Julie Mehretu, and Karel Appel.

I think I maybe like Julie Mehretu. But I always find it hard to judge that sort of art from photos. That sort of thing always looks so different in person.

(your username makes me want to mention Toshi Iwai even though he isn't the type of artist the OP is looking for, so I just did)

electroplankton · Jan 6, 2012

Popstar said:
Damien Hirst needs to get himself a deviantart page.

I think I maybe like Julie Mehretu. But I always find it to judge that sort of art from photos. That sort of thing always looks so different in person.

(your username makes me want to mention Toshi Iwai even though he isn't the type of artist the OP is looking for, so I just did)

Mehretu's works are usually pretty big IIRC so their impact is surely different in person.
Btw, Iwai is a great artist, though more focused on sound and technology.

Platy · Jan 6, 2012

Lime said:
I would probably say James Jean.

For me, yes .... but for the rest of the world i would say someone along the lines of Lucian Freud

edit :

Kusagari said:
Rob Liefeld.

Jim Lee > Rob liefeld
in influence in style ... thank god

teruterubozu · Jan 6, 2012

Hirst, Banksy and Murakami. Which isn't saying much of the current state of art, unfortunately.

Timbuktu · Jan 22, 2012

I just went to a few shows and wondered why no one mentioned Richter or Hockney? They are often described as the most important living painters of Germany and UK respectively. The same was said of Liu xiodong when I saw his stuff in Taiwan.

Popstar · Jan 22, 2012

Timbuktu said:
I just went to a few shows and wondered why no one mentioned Richter or Hockney? They are often described as the most important living painters of Germany and UK respectively. The same was said of Liu xiodong when I saw his stuff in Taiwan.

Richter was mentioned near the beginning of the thread. But I'd say neither Richter or Hockney are really thought of as 21st century artists. Their fame came decades ago. Liu Xiodong seems like a good choice though.

Hey OP!, who did you end up choosing?

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