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Layoffs hit ID Software Today #1


Appears that ID had some layoffs today. I know a fair amount of people that have changed jobs there in the last month or so.
Relix
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(01-10-2012, 07:30 PM)

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#2

What else did they do aside from Rage lately?
DR3AM
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(01-10-2012, 07:30 PM)

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Doom 4 = no more
TheNiX
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That sucks. Hope everyone lands on their feet.

Were the sales of Rage that bad?
Genesis Knight
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:(

id, come on baby. Hang in there for Doom 4.
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(01-10-2012, 07:31 PM)

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Originally Posted by DR3AM: View Post
Doom 4 = no more
Nooo! Don't say that. :(
REMEMBER CITADEL
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(01-10-2012, 07:31 PM)

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What a day for developers.
Doc Holliday
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(01-10-2012, 07:32 PM)

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:/ Sad if true. Next time put deathmatch in the damn game.
subversus
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(01-10-2012, 07:32 PM)

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Hm, Carmack to leave gaming industry?
ProfessorLobo
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Halflife 3 will never come out at this rate.
RoboPlato
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Fuck, this sucks. Rage was fucking awesome and gets way too much hate. One of my biggest surprises of 2011. Hope everyone lands on their feet since they're all super talented.
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(01-10-2012, 07:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by REMEMBER CITADEL: View Post
What a day for developers.
At least they waited after Christmas.
dejan
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(01-10-2012, 07:33 PM)

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#13

Keep chasing that big console money.
TheNiX
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Er... they should have removed this before laying people off..

therapist
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(01-10-2012, 07:36 PM)
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Rage was quite dissapointing IMO and i dont know anyone who bought it , not even when it was 15$ on the steam sale , i assume it did quite poorly.

It wasnt a bad game , just wasnt anywhere near what it should be.

A shame though , hopefully this doesn't end too badly for the people who got laid off :/
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(01-10-2012, 07:40 PM)

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They should have rebooted Quake going back to the dark fantasy style of Quake I and adding in some of the RPG elements that were originally intended instead of doing a rather uninspired post-apocalyptic shooter.

But what do I know?
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Doom 3 onwards was the downfall of iD. Their games just have no soul. They seem just clinical.
Last edited by RukusProvider; 01-10-2012 at 07:47 PM.
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(01-10-2012, 07:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by Princess Skittles: View Post
They should have kept the original team from their golden days
fixed
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Originally Posted by therapist: View Post
Rage was quite dissapointing IMO and i dont know anyone who bought it , not even when it was 15$ on the steam sale , i assume it did quite poorly.

It wasnt a bad game , just wasnt anywhere near what it should be.

A shame though , hopefully this doesn't end too badly for the people who got laid off :/
Personally I thought the entire game looked generic from day one, and from all the reviews I read, it sounds like it turned out just as I feared. Competent? Sure, but competent isn't enough, especially in a crowded holiday season.
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(01-10-2012, 07:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by therapist: View Post
Rage was quite dissapointing IMO and i dont know anyone who bought it , not even when it was 15$ on the steam sale , i assume it did quite poorly.

It wasnt a bad game , just wasnt anywhere near what it should be.


A shame though , hopefully this doesn't end too badly for the people who got laid off :/
This really sums it up. I was expecting it to be the big return of id after they first showed it so many years ago. It looked incredible. I had fun with it, but there were a ton of problems and it really wasn't all that great.
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(01-10-2012, 07:43 PM)

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Man, awful news day. Poor guys, hope they land on their feet.
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There's smart, talented people over there. But they take too damn long to produce their titles. And when they do come out, they're largely mediocre.

I liked the look of RAGE, but the reviews and day one issues put me off.
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(01-10-2012, 07:43 PM)

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What an awful day.
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The studio was foolish after Doom 3. Who knows how much development money they spent over the 7 year development period for Rage. Which ultimately turned out to be a cheap console port. I don't have much sympathy for a studio that abandons it's core audience in favor of chasing console money.

I remember all the awesome details Doom 3 had like the interactive screens. Rage was bland and uninspired compared to it.
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(01-10-2012, 07:44 PM)

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Talk about Rage... Man.
clashfan
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(01-10-2012, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by RukusProvider: View Post
Doom 3 onwards was the downfall of iD. Their games just have so soul. They seem just clinical.
When Romero left is the start of the downfall.
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Originally Posted by sp3000: View Post
The studio was foolish after Doom 3. Who knows how much development money they spent over the 7 year development period for Rage. Which ultimately turned out to be a cheap console port. I don't have much sympathy for a studio that abandons it's core audience in favor of chasing console money.

I remember all the awesome details Doom 3 had like the interactive screens. Rage was bland and uninspired compared to it.
their audience is gamers, not PC gamers.
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All my best wishes to those losing their jobs. I hope they find new employment soon.
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How bad did Rage bomb... wow.
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You'd think they had enough Pop-Ups to go around for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Zefah: View Post
This really sums it up. I was expecting it to be the big return of id after they first showed it so many years ago. It looked incredible. I had fun with it, but there were a ton of problems and it really wasn't all that great.
Ditto. Either way, I look forward to iD's next game. Hopefully.
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Wouldn't be shocked it in 4 years their is no ID, and Bethesda shops out the IP's to guns for hire.
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Bad news :(

I just haven't found Rage to be terribly compelling, and its much lauded graphically fidelity doesn't have much to do with that.

Enjoyed Doom3 much more.
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(01-10-2012, 07:49 PM)

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Doom-ed?

Not good to hear at all.
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=( More sad news. Best of luck to those who lost their job.
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Yarrrrgh. :\ id really needs another revolutionary Doom/Quake for this day and age. RAGE, from what I hear, just doesn't cut it in groundbreakingness. But it's just another showcase for how fragile big game studios are now - even mildly disappointing sales figures can result in cutbacks.
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(01-10-2012, 07:50 PM)
"Rage 2" who? #37

Doom 4 by Beth. id gets absorbed. :(
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#38

That sucks......Just like RAGE.
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Rage sold at least a million between all 3 (PC, 360, PS3) platforms didn't it? I guess that's not enough for the amount of time it took to develop.

It wasn't a bad game at all and the technology was impressive, hopefully ID learned a lot from making it, let's just hope they're able to stick around long enough to deliver on a new Doom or Quake.
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Hopefully Doom 4 still lives, last I heard it was a next gen title. maybe it was the Rage DLC team that got hit or something, also bad mind you :(
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(01-10-2012, 07:51 PM)

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Not surprising. Once you let yourself get bought you tend to start losing people after awhile. Eventually ID will cease to exist and it will be a sad day when that happens.
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Unfortunate, but not too surprising.

Todd Hollenshead once said something to the effect of "it would be really bad" if Rage didn't do well, and I can't imagine that game hit expectations, even though it didn't totally bomb.
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(01-10-2012, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato: View Post
Fuck, this sucks. Rage was fucking awesome and gets way too much hate. One of my biggest surprises of 2011. Hope everyone lands on their feet since they're all super talented.
Agreed. Loved Rage. Didn't agree with their multiplayer choice or in not releasing expandable campaign DLC, but the game was fantastic and I had more fun on that SP FPS campaign than any other fps game this year. Shame.
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RAGE was really good, even though it wasn't quite the AAA diamond people expected.

Shame, ID is an industry mainstay. Good luck to all who are relocating!
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Originally Posted by subversus: View Post
their audience is gamers, not PC gamers.
No, that is not true with their past games. It is only true with Rage, and look where there that sort of mentality has left them.
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Sad day, Rage is great.

Best of luck to the ladies and gents affected.
Suairyu
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Carmack is going to feel especially shit about this - expanding the company was never his preference.
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Let's face it, ID has never been the same since Romero left.
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Originally Posted by DR3AM: View Post
Doom 4 = no more
that rhymed