[levious]

i don't see how you can call four receiver sets unrealistic in this era. At least a few teams run that as a base offense.

[Wellington]

If they kept stats of that nature, I'd bet my house that no teams run 4 wide for 80% of a game.

[eznark]

Your win had more to do with my 4 turnovers than whatever you did on O. It's not against the rules that you went 4-wide for most of the game, it's just extremely annoying and unrealistic. I felt I got better at defending it as the game went along, but I'll have something for you next time we matchup, as is my MO.

lol

[DCX]

Only if I had full control over defensive personnel.

My defensive personnel is pretty damn good. I may be lacking a player or two to complete a pow build.

DCX

[Splat]

No actually, it doesn't. Cmon FMT!

I thought you wanted to move on from the Bengals?

[bluemax]

If they kept stats of that nature, I'd bet my house that no teams run 4 wide for 80% of a game.

They keep formation stats. Fieldgulls used to post the Seahawks info after every game.

[Splat]

FO's almanac has that, lemme skim it real quick.

Highest 4wide percentage in 2010-2011 season was the Cardinals (kinda suprising), at 31%. Average was 8%

[Ramirez]

I'd also wager no real NFL team rolls out to the right as much as Wellie does!

[eznark]

FO's almanac has that, lemme skim it real quick. Highest 4wide percentage in 2010-2011 season was the Cardinals (kinda suprising), at 31%. Average was 8%

How often did a defensive end have 400 sacks in a season? Realism is important, Wellie!

[levious]

If they kept stats of that nature, I'd bet my house that no teams run 4 wide for 80% of a game.

You're probably right, but does any team run press coverage 80% of the game?

[Mrbob]

I'd also wager no real NFL team rolls out to the right as much as Wellie does!

How often did a defensive end have 400 sacks in a season? Realism is important, Wellie!

You're probably right, but does any team run press coverage 80% of the game?

Lol, I'm gonna miss this thread until Madden 13 starts.

[Wellington]

How often did a defensive end have 400 sacks in a season? Realism is important, Wellie!

The same season in which the QB doesn't call protections correctly. Mike Vick is repeatedly knocked as a guy that can't properly call protections, and is usually one of the most sacked QBs in the league.

You're probably right, but does any team run press coverage 80% of the game?

I'm sure many do, what else would "bump and run" teams do?

Go ahead guys keep grasping at straws. If I actually cheated I'd be 19-0 every year.

[eznark]

The same season in which the QB doesn't call protections correctly. Mike Vick is repeatedly knocked as a guy that can't properly call protections, and is usually one of the most sacked QBs in the league.

Exactly. So like people who run 4 wide 80% of their offensive plays you aren't concerned that your 756 sacks per game hasn't happened previously, just that it could potentially happen given the right conditions.

I'm glad we've reached an understanding. It's not precedent but possibility which creates realism.

[Splat]

Give me my Bengals :(

[levious]

I'm sure many do, what else would "bump and run" teams do? Go ahead guys keep grasping at straws. If I actually cheated I'd be 19-0 every year.

I'm not grasping at straws. Next time you play me show me what cheating is.

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

I'm sure many do, what else would "bump and run" teams do?

For real, I feel like some CBs will press over 90% of a game if the matchup is right.

[Sokantish]

You guys are so mean to each other, can't we all just get along?


Anyone need a sub?

[levious]

For real, I feel like some CBs will press over 90% of a game if the matchup is right.

Well I've been watching Newman give a 12 yard cushion for the past four years so maybe my perspective is skewed.

[Trasher]

So how will Madden 13 work? Like what determines what team I get next year? Do I have to challenge Goldy for the Lions or something?

[Sokantish]

Yeah I want the Raiders and I bet Rors is gonna swoop in and take 'em!

[ph33nix]

Not sure if this advances tonight or what but I can play our game when I get home around 10:30 or 11 CT

Is there any damn chance I have to get the wild card still? I guess it comes down to tiebreakers which who knows what the fuck. Cause if I beat Smokey and then Turbo loses to the Bills (which will happily be me) I think we'd have the same common opponent win percentage .... beats me

[Wellington]

Regarding the Bengals, I don't give a fuck about the team. I am a Giants fan. I will be playing AT for them just like we did with Madden 12.

Exactly. So like people who run 4 wide 80% of their offensive plays you aren't concerned that your 756 sacks per game hasn't happened previously, just that it could potentially happen given the right conditions. I'm glad we've reached an understanding. It's not precedent but possibility which creates realism.

OK. So if halfback pass was for some reason more viable in Madden than in real life we should run halfback passes all day, because it's a possibility and LDT had 4 TD passes on it?

I'm not grasping at straws. Next time you play me show me what cheating is.

OK no problem.

For real, I feel like some CBs will press over 90% of a game if the matchup is right.

The Saints played a game this past season where their #1 priority was pressing Calvin Johnson at the LOS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwTve1eavj4

Again, keep grasping. Whatever I do is grounded in reality, whatever your definition of it may be.

[eznark]

OK. So if halfback pass was for some reason more viable in Madden than in real life we should run halfback passes all day, because it's a possibility and LDT had 4 TD passes on it?

Your reasoning for the sacks is the opposite. Madden players are poor at making line adjustments so you smartly take advantage of it, just like real teams would. So, if real teams were shitty at defending the HB pass, it would happen more often (wildcat!) in real life and thus would be realistic should we do it in Madden.

The reasoning allows for just about any play style to be realistic.

I'm not calling you a cheater. I'm calling you a hypocrite! You're only concerned about realism when it doesn't affect your play style.

[levious]

why are you getting so defensive, I think Ramirez is rubbing off on you.

Did the saints press all the receivers or just CJ, that's what I see as unrealistic, at least in the same context as you calling turbo's 4 wide sets the same... But unfortunately that's a limit of the game (press all or none) so I wouldn't ever argue that you shouldn't be able to do it.

[Smokey]

Not sure if this advances tonight or what but I can play our game when I get home around 10:30 or 11 CT Is there any damn chance I have to get the wild card still? I guess it comes down to tiebreakers which who knows what the fuck. Cause if I beat Smokey and then Turbo loses to the Bills (which will happily be me) I think we'd have the same common opponent win percentage .... beats me

ill be on around that time

[McNei1y]

Alright so I finally got back from Cali and can play whatever games I have left... Damn I miss that place.

I was ill-informed when we left and thought I would be staying in San Diego the entire 4-5 days but really we were in Encinitas for a day, San Diego for a day, and then went to a resort/Palo Casino (not sure where that was) but I have to say San Diego, Encinitas, and Carlsbad were all awesome. I want to move out there.

[CB3]

Alright so I finally got back from Cali and can play whatever games I have left... Damn I miss that place. I was ill-informed when we left and thought I would be staying in San Diego the entire 4-5 days but really we were in Encinitas for a day, San Diego for a day, and then went to a resort/Palo Casino (not sure where that was) but I have to say San Diego, Encinitas, and Carlsbad were all awesome. I want to move out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWOsbGP5Ox4

[levious]

Great place to visit.

[CB3]

I see what you did there.

Thats why that song isnt played out here.

[Ramirez]

You guys are so mean to each other, can't we all just get along?

No, never.

Yeah I want the Raiders and I bet Rors is gonna swoop in and take 'em!

They might let you play him for them, but he will beat you to a pulp and have you wondering why you ever wanted to play Madden in the first place.

So how will Madden 13 work? Like what determines what team I get next year? Do I have to challenge Goldy for the Lions or something?

You & Gold will play for them, 2 out 3 series I believe.

why are you getting so defensive, I think Ramirez is rubbing off on you.

My one and only Madden supporter just stabbed me in the back, for shame.

Neily, I beat FMT for you, can you lose to me tonight, please?

[ph33nix]

I was just informed by CB that NBA Jam on fire is 800 points

all you all need to jump on this

[CB3]

crowwwwwwww

Edit: im advancing tonight

[Trasher]

You & Gold will play for them, 2 out 3 series I believe.

Do we each use the Lions when we play?

crowwwwwwww Edit: im advancing tonight

Who owns the Jets? Or who is gonna sub for me tonight? lol

I have a chance at going 8-8 on the season! And I've lost all six of my divisional games lolol. AFC North is clearly the best

[CB3]

YOU BETTER PLAY AN ELITE TRASHER. OR MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. FEEL THE PRESSURE

[Ramirez]

YOU BETTER PLAY AN ELITE TRASHER. OR MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. FEEL THE PRESSURE

I've subbed for like all of Trasher's games, he ain't no bitch!

[levious]

My one and only Madden supporter just stabbed me in the back, for shame.

No way, you can be overly defensive and still be right.

[ph33nix]

I thought that was Ramirez saying "I can go 8-8 on the season" considering earlier this year he was saying OMG GONNA MISS THE PLAYOFFS

[Trasher]

YOU BETTER PLAY AN ELITE TRASHER. OR MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. FEEL THE PRESSURE

I've subbed for like all of Trasher's games, he ain't no bitch!

THE PRESSURE IS TOO MUCH

I think Ram has subbed at least two, maybe even three?

FMT subbed with the Bills.

Sok subbed once.

That might be it. I've won every one of those games though.

[Ramirez]

I thought that was Ramirez saying "I can go 8-8 on the season" considering earlier this year he was saying OMG GONNA MISS THE PLAYOFFS

I never in a million years thought I would beat Wellie & Bob back to back, things change!

[CB3]

I've subbed for like all of Trasher's games, he ain't no bitch!

well you guys have the same avatar. and both have TJ in your gamertag. Im just under the impression your the same person.

[Trasher]

I've subbed for like all of Trasher's games, he ain't no bitch!

Are you trying to say you are an ELITE?

well you guys have the same avatar. and both have TJ in your gamertag. Im just under the impression your the same person.

Pfft. They are way different facial expressions. Fine...I'll change it!

[CB3]

Well his team is, atleast.

[DCX]

Blue, you still in or am I to find a sub/cheesy CPU?

DCX

[CB3]

find a sub

[Splat]

Johnson/Fitz coming down to final game of season for MVP. Are Jags still around or are they sub now?

[DCX]

find a sub

Don't pressure ME!!!!

DCX

[CB3]

Jesus christ injuries are screwing me this year

[Nightz]

Did ez ever get that invite back into the league, or is he gone?

[Mrbob]

The Walking Dead Episode 1 is amazing. Telltale redeemed after a couple lackluster efforts.

[CB3]

Birdman i need you to save me from my second half injury plagued free fall. Crush DM