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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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JoshuaJSlone
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Uhh... the first Wii?
-Pyromaniac-
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ahh they've broken a lot of things over the years. Stories for games, gameplay details. They basically detailed skyward sword long before it came out, they got the wind waker story 2 months early, they were also accurate on mgs4 and some other games.
Good luck getting their accounts approved before E3 ;p The waiting list will probably be quite sizable.
What benefit would there be for Nintendo to release the detailed specifications of the Wii's hardware? The media and fan boys would be given more ammunition and time spent on criticizing Nintendo's decisions. Besides, Nintendo's goals with the Wii were more ambitious than just attempting to beef its console's power. Penetrating the expanded audience market and changing how we play games by resorting to simplifying and innovating the video game controller was what Nintendo wanted to emphasize. Releasing more system spec info would have served as a distraction and more negative feedback. Of course, Nintendo wanted to downplay the Wii's specs which is why you were correct to say that it said that it "doesn't support HD."
The Wii U appears to be in a similar situation because it's believed that the console is not going to be even half a generational leap in graphics. As we all know, Nintendo's been quick to already downplay the Wii U's capabilities by saying that it has no intentions to compete in the graphics race against Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo's just trying to keep expectations realistic. Of course, that doesn't mean Nintendo won't make the most out of its hardware.
Valjean Lafitte
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GameplayWhore
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Assurance that there will be lots of symmetrical local multiplayer, hopefully with the option of using the Classic Controller Pro for players 2 to 4. My local group's ability to play games together has been pretty wrecked this generation, at least compared to previous ones. For the most part, we play Nintendo games on the Wii, Wrestling games on the 360 ... and, wow, I can't think of anything else right now. We're going to be hooking up my friend's old N64 for some classic multiplayer games soon.
edit: Oh, we're going to give Call of GoldenEye another shot. It was enjoyable but not nearly as great as the sixth-gen shooters we played seemed to be, but maybe it'll grow on us.
- games
- launch date
- which games will be available at launch
- demos of uPad uses
- hidden/unknown features
- a gauge on third party support
- sneak peeks of the next Zelda/Mario/StarTropics/F-Zero/Kid Icarus/Pikmin console game?
- on-stage theatrics/antics/goofs/entertainment (<<this one is for all three console makers)
- no matter what, NeoGAF will be entertaining as all hell! =)
But games has to be #1.
-Starfox by Retro Studios / Donkey Kong Country Returns Again !
- New RPG from Monolith Soft for Wii U
(crossing fingers for Xenoblade 2 or even a spiritual successor)
- Pikmin 3
- 2D Castlevania for 3DS
- 2D Metroid for 3DS (Sakamoto, we will forgive you!)
- An surprising and exclusive mature IP collaboration between Nintendo and a third-party
(Maybe Eternal Darkness 2, but I remain skeptical about how much talent Silicon Knights has left in it)
- Resident Evil 6 port
- All Mii-based E3 2011 demos to be included as built-in freebie software
- New RPG from Monolith Soft for Wii U
(crossing fingers for Xenoblade 2 or even a spiritual successor)
- Pikmin 3
- 2D Castlevania for 3DS
- 2D Metroid for 3DS (Sakamoto, we will forgive you!)
- An surprising and exclusive mature IP collaboration between Nintendo and a third-party
(Maybe Eternal Darkness 2, but I remain skeptical about how much talent Silicon Knights has left in it)
- Resident Evil 6 port
- All Mii-based E3 2011 demos to be included as built-in freebie software
-Pyromaniac-
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- New Monolith RPG
- New Mario
- Announcement that 3rd party games like COD/AC3/etc all coming to the console on releas
- a partnership between nintendo with kojima/square for future MGS/final fantasy titles
That's me being hopeful but also grounded in some sort of quasi-reality. If I included pipe dreams for E3, metroid prime would be there, animal crossing/harvest moon for wiiU, and some other things.
- New Mario
- Announcement that 3rd party games like COD/AC3/etc all coming to the console on releas
- a partnership between nintendo with kojima/square for future MGS/final fantasy titles
That's me being hopeful but also grounded in some sort of quasi-reality. If I included pipe dreams for E3, metroid prime would be there, animal crossing/harvest moon for wiiU, and some other things.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I can't imagine any popular Nintendo franchise I'd like to see rebooted less than Starfox.
If it's a Starfox title, I just want to finally kick the General's scaly tail. And probably meet some characters like Tricky and the Warpstone again.
I'm with ya. I'd actually rather see a Gyromite update before they butcher Team Star Fox once again.
I'd really like Retro to build me a sci-fi sandbox in which to play. Since Volition won't give me an iron man suit rip-off for Saint's, I'd like to see that too.
Megatons, betrayaltons and meltdowns.
Well put. This is going to be a dangerous rollercoaster ride for GAF's emotions.
Gamer @ Heart
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There are so few game like it, that i want it to come back. I can get my RPG and platform fixes from many places, but Space/rail aerial shooters? Once in a blue moon.
jump_button
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oh yeah they no way of that happening..... oh wait
and they more coming im happy for them to try and give the younger teams to make small games for e-shop
ps found a pic of you
oh yeah they no way of that happening..... oh wait
I'm talking about the Wii U. Those 3DS exclusive games prove my point even further, though.
jump_button
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Are you really say pushmo not good?
Is that.. a colostomy bag?!
R
Rösti
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What I would like at Nintendo's E3 2012 media briefing
What I would not like at Nintendo's E3 2012 media briefing
Then of course I can suggest things like The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball, Reggie Readies Your Body, StarTropics and a bunch of other things for Nintendo to show there, but I doubt they want to go all in; though some kind of bombastic revelation is to expect.
- Good communication - A well-arranged presentation of hardware and software so that the entire audience understands Nintendo's agenda and plans. A repeat of last year's to some people confusing presentation wouldn't be that appreciated.
- A tech demo that truly tells Wii U isn't simply an Xbox 360 on steroids. While the Japanese Garden demo (both versions) was impressive, I believe more must be done to really captivate the audience. I'm thinking something similar to the Killzone demo à la E3 2005 would be eligible for such a mission. This would probably be through a presentation of Metroid, Geist or The Legend of Zelda.
- Some kind of musical entertainment. The orchestra that played the theme for the 25th Anniversary of The Legend of Zelda did a great job, and something for the Wii U would be nice. Coinciding anniversaries include the 10th anniversary of Kirby and the 10th anniversary of Mario Kart, so perhaps something for that could be arranged in conjunction with the reveal of a new game. Most likely Mario Kart.
- Equal time portions for different types of games (casual vs. core). I don't mind casual games like Wii Fit, but I don't like it when a huge portion of a press conference is devoted simply to casual games, when the portion of core games has to suffer. If Nintendo can balance this in a nice way I will be pleased.
- A presentation of supporting third-parties in a form other than a screen showing logos or "interviews" or software reels comprised of footage from Xbox 360/PS3 versions of the games. Have let's say Jason Vandenberghe come out on stage and demonstrate how they have incorporated the features of the Wii U remote in Far Cry 3.
What I would not like at Nintendo's E3 2012 media briefing
- A beta version of Killer Freaks From Outer Space demonstrated on stage. This thing should be kept as far away as possible from Nintendo's media briefing unless it features impressive visuals.
- Important details about the system surfacing in the usual Geoff/Reggie interview. As much as I like seeing these two guys duking it out, I'm not too keen on learning for example how much internal memory the system has via GameTrailers etc. Because that should be distributed either on the media briefing or through the press kit Nintendo always sends out.
- Uninspiring "HD" ports of Petz and Imagine by Ubisoft. These things may sell well, but ain't something I would want to define the inauguration of Wii U. For a showing in 2013 perhaps, but not at E3 2012.
- Uninspiring "HD" ports of Xbox 360/PS3 games from 2006, let's say Alone in the Dark and Turok. If developers want this kind of thing, at least pick something semi-contemporary.
Then of course I can suggest things like The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball, Reggie Readies Your Body, StarTropics and a bunch of other things for Nintendo to show there, but I doubt they want to go all in; though some kind of bombastic revelation is to expect.
What the hell is wrong with you?
First off, I never said ANYTHING about the quality of Pushmo and other eShop exclusives. I like them all a lot.
Secondly, I said that franchises like StarFox or new IPs which only can work on the tablet could be made for Wii U's "eShop". Just like XBLA or PSN games, but made for the Wii U from the ground up.
And I won't comment your childish overreaction - it's actually funny. :lol
I would really love to see some Nintendo titles for the launch window:
New Metroid, with great use of Upad
Pikmin 3 with photorealistic backgrounds
New Retro studio poject (new IP? or reboot)
New IP
Demo à la Wii Sport (maybe with the demo of last e3) included in the basic version of the console
New Monolith Soft game
Some Third party escvlusive for the launch window:
Killer Freaks
Ubisoft MMO
Ghost Recon Online
Maybe some surprsie from EA (Battlefield spinoff?) Warner Bros (Batman spinoff?) and Capcom (Lost Planet Troopers?)
Dagon Quest X Plus
Some third party multiplatform release (with Upad and Ugraphic addition):
Resident Evil 6
Dead Space 3
Time splitters 4
Assassins Creed 3
GTA5
CoD
Rösti;35662141 said:
They have had an entire year to improve the graphics and gameplay. Much, much longer than the time they were given to polish Red Steel 1 for Wii's launch.
I really don't see this game being shitty like Red Steel 1. They've had more than enough time to work on it, and the fact that you can use different controllers to play it (like classic controller pro) is a really nice addition.
The fact that they got the game to look as good as it was as a Beta Xbox 360 game at E3 2011 when it wasn't even in development for a long time is pretty impressive.
AceBandage
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All I want is a shooter where you play as Anthony Higgs.
Forsaken82
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Rösti;35662141 said:
So do you also not want to see them showcase Killer Freaks if it happens to intelligently use the controller screen while displaying average visuals? Graphics can not be the only thing you are seriously worried about. If I am Nintendo, I will be focusing far more attention to the controller screen and its game play integration than graphics.
I already have a minimum expectation from the system technology wise (and my expectations are no where near as high as many of you in this thread, lower expectations mean less disappointment), so that really doesn't interest me when it comes to the Wii U. What interests me is the second screen and how it will be implemented in games.
If there was anything you wouldn't want to see, it would be a lack of interesting uses of the 2nd screen regardless of how it looks.
Launch price: 299/$
Launch date: November 16th EU, 18th US
Launch titles:
ACIII
Batman Arkham City
Darmsiders 2
Ninja Gaiden 3
FIFA 13
Killer Freaks From Outer Space
Metro Last Light
Tom Clancy game
Monster games racer
Wario Ware fUn fUn Microgames
Pikmin 3
Wii blank
+random stuff, some new franchises from 3rd parties
Launch date: November 16th EU, 18th US
Launch titles:
ACIII
Batman Arkham City
Darmsiders 2
Ninja Gaiden 3
FIFA 13
Killer Freaks From Outer Space
Metro Last Light
Tom Clancy game
Monster games racer
Wario Ware fUn fUn Microgames
Pikmin 3
Wii blank
+random stuff, some new franchises from 3rd parties
I'm guaranteeing this right now.
Killer Freaks from Outer Space will be visually amazing. The concept art was very intriguing, and if they can match the graphics with the concept art, it will be a great game. Again, A LOT of things can be improved in one full year (between E3 2011 and E3 2012)...and it can be even more improved between E3 2012 and Wii U's launch. What we saw of Killer Freaks last year was a rough beta, and the game shouldn't be judged by a rough beta.
Although Red Steel 1 sucked...believe it or not...the game at launch was better and improved over the version displayed at E3.
Also, Ubisoft got a lot of feedback from Nintendo and Retro on Red Steel's motion controls, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ask for Nintendo's feedback on Killer Freaks.
If Killer Freaks can go from this beta:
to something closer to this:
That would be pretty sweet.
Killer Freaks from Outer Space will be visually amazing. The concept art was very intriguing, and if they can match the graphics with the concept art, it will be a great game. Again, A LOT of things can be improved in one full year (between E3 2011 and E3 2012)...and it can be even more improved between E3 2012 and Wii U's launch. What we saw of Killer Freaks last year was a rough beta, and the game shouldn't be judged by a rough beta.
Although Red Steel 1 sucked...believe it or not...the game at launch was better and improved over the version displayed at E3.
Also, Ubisoft got a lot of feedback from Nintendo and Retro on Red Steel's motion controls, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ask for Nintendo's feedback on Killer Freaks.
If Killer Freaks can go from this beta:
to something closer to this:
That would be pretty sweet.
AceBandage
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I mean, who DOESN'T want to play as this bad ass?
In my wildest of fantasies, Nintendo uses the Wii U to dramatically increase the popularity of the action-adventure genre.. announcing the console returns of StarTropics, Faxanadu, Kid Icarus, etc. Games like that.
With each series bringing its own unique flavor to the genre, I'd love to see it rise in prominence, spawning lots of copycat titles each year.
For me, that'd make for the best E3 ever.. Reggie saying, "Wait - we have one more reel to roll."
(Sadly, we're more likely to just see ported and copycat FPS titles..)
With each series bringing its own unique flavor to the genre, I'd love to see it rise in prominence, spawning lots of copycat titles each year.
For me, that'd make for the best E3 ever.. Reggie saying, "Wait - we have one more reel to roll."
(Sadly, we're more likely to just see ported and copycat FPS titles..)
One day you will.
Now that I remember, I have to play Other M again =P
R
Rösti
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What "average visuals" means is key here. Sure, I wouldn't complain if the game featured visuals on par with let's say Halo Reach, but visuals lacking mipmapping, good light sources and a steady frame rate between 20-30 FPS I wouldn't want on stage. Anything that would severely make people doubt the technical capabilities of the system is not appropriate to show on stage. At least the Chase Mii demo looked clean and polished at E3 2011, whilst Killer Freaks From Outer Space did not (I know it was in early alpha stage).
Of course I am, just like you, very interested in the aspects of the Wii U remote, and that is certainly something Nintendo should focus on, but with the right content connected.
I want a shooter where you play as Thunder Monkey's figs.
AceBandage
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Isn't that just FEAR?
AceBandage
Banned
Metroid Prime looked like crap during beta too.
I think I'm going to be sick...
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