[chickdigger802]

wait... Andrea doesn't like SD's cutscenes (which i can understand), but was engrossed in Max Payne 3, which all pretty much are him complaining about how the plot of the game is nonsense?

And she's not happy because there aren't guns...

Andrea is the most dudebro of the cast.

[Crewnh]

wait... Andrea doesn't like SD's cutscenes (which i can understand), but was engrossed in Max Payne 3, which all pretty much are him complaining about how the plot of the game is nonsense? And she's not happy because there aren't guns... Andrea is the most dudebro of the cast.

something something final fantasy something something pandas

[SatelliteOfLove]

wait... Andrea doesn't like SD's cutscenes (which i can understand), but was engrossed in Max Payne 3, which all pretty much are him complaining about how the plot of the game is nonsense? And she's not happy because there aren't guns... Andrea is the most dudebro of the cast.

Grrlsis?

[Grisby]

Just finishing up the GB cast from tuesday. Should be getting to this sucker pretty soon.

[Baconsammy]

Turned it off right at the start when Garnett said the dialogue was racist and unnecessary. Know what makes it necessary, Garnett? The writer wrote it and the producer approved it. They deemed it necessary. Not to mention that it factors heavily in the lead characters motivation. Then Andrea claims she rage quit within the first 2 hours, and admits she doesnt like these kinds of games. Just who I want to hear a criticism from, someone that doesn't like the genre to begin with. Click. Off. Deleted.

[Ysiadmihi]

I thought we were past the point of denying the Wiimote/Move is better for FPS than a gamepad. I don't understand why people can't just say "I understand it's better, but I don't like it/can't make it work."

[Fjordson]

Enjoyable episode. This is probably the best lineup for the show I think. Andrea is a great guest.

Also, I probably missed this, but whose house was this recorded at? Was surprised at how good the audio quality was.

And Jeff, screw the haters. Niners are beasting again this year, I can feel it.

[Heavy's Sandvich]

In before Garnett clears his throat.

Listening to it now. I'm up to the Darksiders 2 chat.

[krae_man]

All podcasts need a British voice or a cat on them.

Or maybe a cat with a British voice.

[snoopeasystreet]

I thought we were past the point of denying the Wiimote/Move is better for FPS than a gamepad. I don't understand why people can't just say "I understand it's better, but I don't like it/can't make it work."

I really dislike using a wiimote or move in first person shooters, it never really makes sense to me. The thing that makes a mouse so good for aiming in that it's easy to translate the movement of the mouse to the movement of your cursor. And while the controller definitely doesn't have this precision, I've gotten fairly good at translating how long I have to hold a stick in a direction to how far my cursor rotates.

Playing on a motion controller, you have the area of the screen where you can aim precisely and the area that's not on the screen that you have to point at to pan the camera. It's sort of like a mixture between the two and but doesn't feel as comfortable as either. I dunno, I'm sure you can get used to it and it probably is better than the standard analogue stick but to me, it just feels like a weird middle ground that doesn't really improve my experience in any way.

[Grisby]

More then halfway through, it's an alright show but:

[ArjanN]

Don't agree with Andrea about mics being required for co-op.

Once you have some experience with a game you generally don't need a mic at all and I find I'm actually more likely to be annoyed by people using mics than by people who don't.

[SatelliteOfLove]

Don't agree with Andrea about mics being required for co-op. Once you have some experience with a game you generally don't need a mic at all and I find I'm actually more likely to be annoyed by people using mics than by people who don't.

That's only if the game is more unmoving or it's 1v1. For more complex or fluid games, mics definately make things better. Personally, socializing with the team is always a plus (but then again, I don't suffer bad behavior well, either).

[eznark]

More then halfway through, it's an alright show but:

unlistenable

[chickdigger802]

hmmm i do actually have friends that swear that wiimote nunchuk > classic controller for shooters.

I'm terrible at both, so what would i know :X

[MisterC20XX]

Enjoyable episode. This is probably the best lineup for the show I think. Andrea is a great guest.

Agreed. I consider these four *the* Weekend Confirmed cast.

[ArjanN]

That's only if the game is more unmoving or it's 1v1. For more complex or fluid games, mics definately make things better. Personally, socializing with the team is always a plus (but then again, I don't suffer bad behavior well, either).

Well, she was talking about horde modes and public matches.

With most games that have horde modes once you have some experience you don't really need to communicate much.

In my experience in public matches maybe 1 in 3 people on a mic are not annoying.

[Oblivionmancer]

Well, she was talking about horde modes and public matches. With most games that have horde modes once you have some experience you don't really need to communicate much. In my experience in public matches maybe 1 in 3 people on a mic are not annoying.

Totally agreed. Besides, ME3 multiplayer is, for me, a diablo-esque loot grind that appeals to me specifically because I don't have to devote my complete attention to it, and can instead, say, listen to a podcast while playing a few matches.

[Dead Man Typing]

Turned it off right at the start when Garnett said the dialogue was racist and unnecessary. Know what makes it necessary, Garnett? The writer wrote it and the producer approved it. They deemed it necessary. Not to mention that it factors heavily in the lead characters motivation. Then Andrea claims she rage quit within the first 2 hours, and admits she doesnt like these kinds of games. Just who I want to hear a criticism from, someone that doesn't like the genre to begin with. Click. Off. Deleted.

Funny, you missed the discussion about whether people want reviews from people who are fans of the genre they're writing about or not.

My take on it, I like to hear from a group of 3-4 different people who have all played the same game and some of them are fans of the genre, some of them aren't, but they can all talk eloquently from an informed position about the game. If only someone, somewhere, were to get people like that together and let them discuss the game and then broadcast the discussion on the radio - I think you'd have my ideal format for reviews.

[Crewnh]

"so youre racist"

Oh man Jeff

[Ysiadmihi]

Playing on a motion controller, you have the area of the screen where you can aim precisely and the area that's not on the screen that you have to point at to pan the camera.

This isn't really true. Modern Wiimote/Move shooters have tons of customization options and while you can set the bounding box to be as large as your entire screen, you can also set it to be as small as you want. With a small bounding box, turning is a breeze and while it certainly doesn't match a mouse in terms of responsiveness and accuracy, it's far beyond what a control pad offers. What's even better is that many shooters allow you to lock the camera by holding a button allowing you to switch between fast turning controls and point-and-click aiming in an instant.

I'm actually pretty bothered that the Wiimote will likely fall out of favor with the Wii U since it and the Move are the only reason I want to play console shooters.

[Harlock]

I miss Nicole. Word in the street is she already get a platinum trophy in Sleeping Dogs.

But I am loving the trolling phase of Garnett. Past week was talking shit about Kotaku and now pooping in Jim Sterling. I hope they all fight back and cancel your subscription to gamefly!

[HamPster PamPster]

I miss the old format of Games (Section 1 and 2), Topic (Section 3) and News (Section 4). I'm just not feeling the jumbled mess that the podcast is now, especially going into the release season. The cruelest thing Garnett has done all year is say Darksiders 2 talk is coming after the break and then discuss how to review games for 15 minutes first :(

Also, all this "best lineup" nonsense going on in the thread needs to stop, Spicer 4 Life!

[Blazyr]

I wouldn't worry much about format HP. The upcoming release schedule gets dense enough that it will naturally slot back into a more game-game-game rhythm.

[mbmonk]

Really enjoyed NicoleZ on this.

Ditto! I wouldn't mind her returning from time to time.

[LiK]

Andrea raged quit Sleeping Dogs? WTF, lol...the game isn't even hard or had any tough missions. I am shocked that she said she couldn't get used to the combat which is basically easy mode from Batman AA. And saying that it's a ripoff to GTA is bizarre. It's an open world crime game so it's obvious where they got inspiration. As for the driving, you can go nuts and not care about your cop score. You can do what you want if you want. It's pretty free form.

Ugh, her complaints really frustrated me. -10 respect for Andrea getting mad over such trivial things. Might as well give up all other games that are influenced or were copies of other games. And we learn that Andrea doesn't like HK crime dramas.

Anyway, I wish you guys understood Cantonese, so much stuff isn't subbed and they're all real dialogue.

[Baconsammy]

Tried to continue listening in the car but it just pissed me off the more they let Andrea dominate the Sleeping Dogs conversation. You have two guys that sound like they loved the game trying to get comments in yet all we're hearing from is the person who admits they hate this genre. The person who rage quit at the easiest part of the game. The person that admits she skipped or ignored all the cut scenes. GTFO.

[Teletraan1]

Baconsmmy ragequits 2
Andrea Rene ragequits 1

Looks like you won this episode.

[LiK]

Tried to continue listening in the car but it just pissed me off the more they let Andrea dominate the Sleeping Dogs conversation. You have two guys that sound like they loved the game trying to get comments in yet all we're hearing from is the person who admits they hate this genre. The person who rage quit at the easiest part of the game. The person that admits she skipped or ignored all the cut scenes. GTFO.

i'm hoping Garnett picks it up so the Jeffs could have a real discussion about it rather than having to defend each point Andrea made. i can tell Garnett will love it since he loved Yakuza. the feel and atmosphere is similar except gameplay is much more GTA-style.

[Baconsammy]

Baconsmmy ragequits 2 Andrea Rene ragequits 1 Looks like you won this episode.

My total's 3 now actually. When she finally got done whining about SD and Garnett didn't bother letting the guys who liked it say why they liked it, they said they were going to talk about Darksiders next. They come back from commercial and instead of Darksiders Garnett steers the conversation to Last Story instead. Click. Off. Too much non-gaming talk about cats, booze etc. I need to find a new podcast.

i'm hoping Garnett picks it up so the Jeffs could have a real discussion about it rather than having to defend each point Andrea made. i can tell Garnett will love it since he loved Yakuza. the feel and atmosphere is similar except gameplay is much more GTA-style.

You could hear the Jeffs trying to talk about the positives, but noooo, it kept going back to Debbie Downer. Blehhhh.

[Shadow780]

rant

yes but are you rage quitting?

[LiK]

yes but are you rage quitting?

no, i listen all the way (unless there's spoilers. spoilers can cause me to quit a podcast for a few months.)

[ZenaxPure]

and now pooping in Jim Sterling

I haven't listened to the podcast the past few weeks but now I feel like I should

[Mutagenic]

Hardly anything worth deleting the podcast over. I like differing opinions, and the game was still well-represented.

[Baconsammy]

Hardly anything worth deleting the podcast over. I like differing opinions, and the game was still well-represented.

It was well-represented. It just wasn't represented well.

[LiK]

It was well-represented. It just wasn't represented well.

she raged quit a tutorial fight, skipped all cutscenes and didn't like the world. that's what i got from her.

[antitrop]

I've been listening to Weekend Confirmed since Episode 1 (and everything Garnett Lee did at 1UP since 2006) but I feel like Garnett and Andrea just "didn't get it" in regards to their discussion of Sleeping Dogs.

Jeff, as usual, was spot on, though. Wish they would have let him talk a bit more.

[antitrop]

Agreed. I consider these four *the* Weekend Confirmed cast.

Not gonna lie, I miss Brian Lahey.

[LiK]

I've been listening to Weekend Confirmed since Episode 1 (and everything Garnett Lee did at 1UP since 2006) but I feel like Garnett and Andrea just "didn't get it" in regards to their discussion of Sleeping Dogs. Jeff, as usual, was spot on, though. Wish they would have let him talk a bit more.

I wouldn't blame Garnett, he didnt play it yet do he was just listening to both sides. If he did, I think he would've countered some of the complaints.

[antitrop]

I wouldn't blame Garnett, he didnt play it yet do he was just listening to both sides. If he did, I think he would've countered some of the complaints.

Oh, sorry, I like to listen to the podcast as I fall asleep so my memory of it is a bit fuzzy.

I got the impression that he didn't seem very interested by it.

[Baconsammy]

Oh, sorry, I like to listen to the podcast as I fall asleep so my memory of it is a bit fuzzy. I got the impression that he didn't seem very interested by it.

He said the dialogue sounded racist, and that was about all of his contribution to the conversation.

[Neuromancer]

Andrea raged quit Sleeping Dogs? WTF, lol...the game isn't even hard or had any tough missions. I am shocked that she said she couldn't get used to the combat which is basically easy mode from Batman AA. And saying that it's a ripoff to GTA is bizarre. It's an open world crime game so it's obvious where they got inspiration. As for the driving, you can go nuts and not care about your cop score. You can do what you want if you want. It's pretty free form. Ugh, her complaints really frustrated me. -10 respect for Andrea getting mad over such trivial things. Might as well give up all other games that are influenced or were copies of other games. And we learn that Andrea doesn't like HK crime dramas. Anyway, I wish you guys understood Cantonese, so much stuff isn't subbed and they're all real dialogue.

She's crazy. As far as videogames go SD has a great story I think. Personally I just like getting to play as a good guy for once in these kinds of games. The melee system can be a little tricky sometimes, I'm not too good at brawler type games, but as you level yourself up it definitely gets easier. They probably could have put in a difficulty setting though, kind of weird that there is none.

Also you only get police points taken away during story missions for crashing into things and killing people by accident, the rest of the game is totally free form.

[Curufinwe]

Andrea was correct about the Move being more accurate for aiming, at least for KZ3 where the controls were tuned properly for it.

Garnet's attitude toward her during that segment was kind of rude and showed his ignorance.

[DaBuddaDa]

I've been listening to Weekend Confirmed since Episode 1 (and everything Garnett Lee did at 1UP since 2006) but I feel like Garnett and Andrea just "didn't get it" in regards to their discussion of Sleeping Dogs.

Their conversation was a little strange. They, especially Andrea, kept repeating the same statements over and over and over to the point where I literally checked my ipod to see if something was wrong with the .mp3 because I thought it was skipping. I am 100% serious.

[antitrop]

Their conversation was a little strange. They, especially Andrea, kept repeating the same statements over and over and over to the point where I literally checked my ipod to see if something was wrong with the .mp3 because I thought it was skipping. I am 100% serious.

They were drinking and inside Garnett's home rather than a studio and it was light-hearted, they weren't taking the discussion very seriously.

[UberTag]

So is this Weekend Confirmed fantasy football deal going to be a private affair?
What hoops must a NeoGAF WC follower and avid fantasy player jump through in order to be extended an invite?
Or should I just expect invite info on these 14-team leagues to be disseminated during Friday's podcast?

[CartridgeBlower]

They were drinking and inside Garnett's home rather than a studio and it was light-hearted, they weren't taking the discussion very seriously.

Awesome! Just what I want from a gaming podcast! "Well, they were drunk and sleeping over at Garnett's, so of course the discussion sucked..."

(to be fair I didn't listen to this episode. When Andrea is on, I usually read the posts first to see how it went before I dl, and judging by this thread, this last time was not so good).

[Grisby]

Finished. I thought it was a weaker episode even if they were going for just the funnies. Just wasn't feeling it I suppose. I'm glad Garnett got around to Lost Odyssey as that is one of the best JRPG's this gen. It basically is Final Fantasy 13 for me.

Not gonna lie, I miss Brian Lahey.

That was the team.

[antitrop]

Awesome! Just what I want from a gaming podcast! "Well, they were drunk and sleeping over at Garnett's, so of course the discussion sucked..." (to be fair I didn't listen to this episode. When Andrea is on, I usually read the posts first to see how it went before I dl, and judging by this thread, this last time was not so good).

Ya, I wasn't saying I enjoyed the episode either, just stating the situation it was recorded in.

[BootlegSnackz]

They definitely need to have Nicole back on...especially if Jeff can keep it in his pants when she's trying to talk... dude was interrupting her every 5 seconds during the dawnguard segment.

We know you don't like dawnguard Jeff, no need to be an asshole


Could not listen to the last podcast...starting to dislike when they drink.

Horrible couple of weeks fellas, get it together...I look forward to tomorrows episode hopefully being a lot better.