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(01-25-2012, 12:47 AM)

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Originally Posted by God's Beard: View Post
waiting in line at the launch party right now about 25 people in ^_^
I will be heading over there shortly! Excite! :)
Skilletor
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#252

Originally Posted by Sixfortyfive: View Post
You say this like it isn't already a problem for some games.
I know it's a problem for some games. That's not my point. But whatever. The problem will sort itself out.
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#253

This game really snuck up on me, and here I am with an exhausted game budget... Soulcalibur is my favorite fighting series and the only one where I am better than everyone I know IRL.
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#254

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post

Nope sold to them is is sold to a retailer. There's no data in the world that would back up 3.5 million copies sold in homes. Tekken 6 never even charted in the US/Euro, and was minimal in Japan.
Lol. Think about it for a second. Here are namco's financial results for Q1 2010.
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/files/E...892010201Q.pdf
In Q1 they sold 1 mil of T6 but they shipped over 2 millions of the game.

I don't think you realize how popular the tekken brand really is.

Think about it another way. If they shipped over 2 million and by now it sold over 3,5 mil then if the launch 2 million didn't sell, why would they ship additional 1,5 million to retailers over the next course of 2 years?
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Ether_Snake
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(01-25-2012, 12:55 AM)

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#255

To say that CAS sucks cause you can create dumb characters is, dumb:p

I had a LOT of fun with CAS. I just went through my pics and I'm amazed at how well I could re-created characters from games or animes or whatever, but also make awesome alts for the main characters.

Id-Siegfried


Dragon Guardian Hilde


What about Repented Nightmare, Paladin? Or goth Tira? Or Roman Legionaire Sophitia?


I can't wait to make some new stuff:)
DR2K
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(01-25-2012, 12:56 AM)

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#256

Originally Posted by GrayFoxPL: View Post
Lol. Think about it for a second. Here are namco's financial results for Q1 2010.
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/files/E...892010201Q.pdf
In Q1 they sold 1 mil of T6 but they shipped over 2 millions of the game.

I don't think you realize how popular the tekken brand really is.

Think about it another way. If they shipped over 2 million and by now it sold over 3,5 mil then if the launch 2 million didn't sell, why would they ship additional 1,5 million to retailed over the next course of 2 years?
Which is why retailers bought it in droves. Consumers didn't. If we compile all the data for sales then that's the only reasonable conclusion. There is no sales tracker in the world that can show those numbers for a reason.

Also SCIV did incredible numbers and charted very well within the first few months for reference.
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(01-25-2012, 01:00 AM)

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#257

Originally Posted by robut: View Post
Great OP!

Pretty sure I've read every page on this game on GAF and was not informed the game has 50 (!!!!) player lobbies, replays that autosave and ghost data based on top players.
Wait wat

Are you just talking about the quick match AIs?
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(01-25-2012, 01:01 AM)

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#258

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
DLC in general. Tekken 6 had some preorder DLC though.
Dude... you're claiming that Tekken sold only approximately hundred's of thousands despite selling 3.5 million to retailers? So going by your logic there are millions of copies of Tekken 6 idly lying all over retail chains?

Tekken 6 really did sell 3.5 million. It's not that hard to believe at all. It's not as much as the PS2 versions or T3 either. It's a very high selling series.
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(01-25-2012, 01:02 AM)

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#259

Originally Posted by TDLink: View Post
More commentary on the Devil Jin situation:

http://8wayrun.com/threads/demon-sou...-4#post-377707

I gotta say, I really don't agree with IdleMind here. He is basically whining that if a dude uses Devil Jin at an EVO-sponsored major because they allow it and thus violates the 8wayrun "ruling" he and the other admins there came up with then it would divide the community.
What this means is Evo just handed Oofmatic the win.
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Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
Which is why retailers bought it in droves. Consumers didn't. If we compile all the data for sales then that's the only reasonable conclusion. There is no sales tracker in the world that can show those numbers for a reason.

Also SCIV did incredible numbers and charted very well within the first few months for reference.
Whaa..?

Ok, you just defy logic. No one wins against that.

It's 3AM, so I'm willing to leave this like that and go finally to bed.
DR2K
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(01-25-2012, 01:09 AM)

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Originally Posted by GrayFoxPL: View Post
Whaa..?

Ok, you just defy logic. No one wins against that.

It's 3AM, so I'm willing to leave this like that and go finally to bed.
Originally Posted by AAK: View Post
Dude... you're claiming that Tekken sold only approximately hundred's of thousands despite selling 3.5 million to retailers? So going by your logic there are millions of copies of Tekken 6 idly lying all over retail chains?

Tekken 6 really did sell 3.5 million. It's not that hard to believe at all. It's not as much as the PS2 versions or T3 either. It's a very high selling series.
Well please find the sales data that says otherwise. I couldn't find it, because the game didn't even chart within months of release. Anywhere but media create.

Oh well thread derail has gone on long enough, lol.
devastatorprime
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#262

Man this game really needs the save screenshot function in the xmb like tekken 6. Would love to see everyone's creations in direct feed screenshots.
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#263

Does anyone know what is included or extra in the collector's edition guide versus the standard?

http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Calibur-O...6072383&sr=8-1
Skilletor
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(01-25-2012, 01:27 AM)

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#264

Originally Posted by Dead to Rights: View Post
Does anyone know what is included or extra in the collector's edition guide versus the standard?

http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Calibur-O...6072383&sr=8-1
Is there a standard guide?
lazybones18
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#265

Not planning on preordering it, but I'll get it on Tuesday
Dead to Rights
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Originally Posted by Skilletor: View Post
Is there a standard guide?
Yeah it's already up for pre-order.

http://www.amazon.com/SOULCALIBUR-Of...6021997&sr=8-1
Skilletor
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(01-25-2012, 01:34 AM)

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Originally Posted by Dead to Rights: View Post
Yeah it's already up for pre-order.

http://www.amazon.com/SOULCALIBUR-Of...6021997&sr=8-1
Ah, the pics are the same so didn't even realize. Just assumed it was "collectors" meaning it would have a limited print run.
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Originally Posted by Skilletor: View Post
Ah, the pics are the same so didn't even realize. Just assumed it was "collectors" meaning it would have a limited print run.
You are sort of correct lol. I just read this comment on the Future Press Facebook regarding someone who was asking about the collector's edition guide.

Quote:
Sorry for not replying sooner, Joshua. We're just crazy busy finishing current projects. Michelle is correct, there will be only one edition of both titles, and that's going to be hardcover only. The term "Collector's Edition" is just an add-on at Amazon.co.uk and since Amazon.com automatically gets product feeds from UK as well, it appears on the US site, too (however, not available for purchase). So, wherever and whatever listing you pre-order, you'll get the same guide (both Soulcalibur V and Reckoning).
Skilletor
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(01-25-2012, 01:44 AM)

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Originally Posted by Dead to Rights: View Post
You are sort of correct lol. I just read this comment on the Future Press Facebook regarding someone who was asking about the collector's edition guide.
That explains why I didn't get a notification this would be shipping in a week. I was on the wishlist for the wrong one.
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#270

Can we have the voices of regular characters but change their appearances? I need to make a Suzaku Patroklos CaC and a Lelouche Xiba CaC.

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
Well please find the sales data that says otherwise. I couldn't find it, because the game didn't even chart within months of release. Anywhere but media create.
Didn't chart where? On the top 10? Because that means next to nothing. You know retailers can return unsold stock, right? 3.5 mil to retailers means at least 2.5 mil were sold to customers, at the absolute minimum.

Hahaha, oh man. That was silly. Are those in the game? More fighters need entertaining tutorials.

Originally Posted by MarkMan: View Post
Yeah, she can, but her shit is like 28284666A+G now
That's... about 50 times easier to remember than whatever it was in SC2. Good to hear.

Originally Posted by alstein: View Post
It isn't just one website, it's the SRK of SoulCal sites. Would you want 8WR determining banlists for SF4? There is nothing inherent about Evo, SRK, or the Cannons that makes them a better judge of tourney worthiness then the 8WR folks.
I'm getting flashbacks to the great Brawl debate of Evo '08...
GrayFoxPL
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#271

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
Well please find the sales data that says otherwise. I couldn't find it, because the game didn't even chart within months of release. Anywhere but media create.

Oh well thread derail has gone on long enough, lol.
I just linked you to their financial report for q1 that already proven you wrong. They shipped over 2m and sold 1m in Q1. They shipped 2 million to retailers and then what? Sold 1 million to retailers? What world do you live in?

Every new game debuts on charts, what the hell are you talking about?
Some quick google searches:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...n_US_Sales.php
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...s_At_No_20.php
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...ls_Showing.php
http://darkzero.co.uk/game-news/uk-s...-31st-october/
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#272

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
Well please find the sales data that says otherwise. I couldn't find it, because the game didn't even chart within months of release. Anywhere but media create.

Oh well thread derail has gone on long enough, lol.
Dude. When you want to initiate the argument, you need to back it up your own story, not the other way around. That's the basis of every argument.
Skilletor
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#273

Sales talk :(

Needs more Natsu, imo.
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Originally Posted by kuroshiki: View Post
Dude. When you want to initiate the argument, you need to back it up your own story, not the other way around. That's the basis of every argument.
Sounds like he realized he was dead fucking wrong and tried to bail before anyone actually pulled some numbers.
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#275

The stream is on now over here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RlzDsEXCzU
Last edited by TDLink; 01-25-2012 at 02:27 AM.
Skilletor
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Originally Posted by TDLink: View Post
The stream is starting in a few minutes at the :30 over here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RlzDsEXCzU
Thank you!

Ready!
ExMachina
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(01-25-2012, 02:29 AM)

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#277

Thanks for the heads up! Tuning in.
TDLink
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#278

Looks like they are doing quick character profiles before starting the tournament.
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(01-25-2012, 02:31 AM)

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#279

Originally Posted by GrayFoxPL: View Post
I just linked you to their financial report for q1 that already proven you wrong. They shipped over 2m and sold 1m in Q1. They shipped 2 million to retailers and then what? Sold 1 million to retailers? What world do you live in?
Oh so it did chart(at the bottom on release month). Well case closed. Million seller indeed. Stuffing the retail channel isn't new or unheard of.

Originally Posted by kuroshiki: View Post
Dude. When you want to initiate the argument, you need to back it up your own story, not the other way around. That's the basis of every argument.
How does game that doesn't chart well sell millions in homes? That doesn't happen. The absence of sales data is very telling in its own.

So back to Soul Calibur V. Is the game being sold at said launch party?
TDLink
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(01-25-2012, 02:36 AM)

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#280

Someone needs to tell gamespot how to stream without massive audio lag and echoing.
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#281

#fuckjaxel
Criminal Upper
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Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
Oh so it did chart(at the bottom on release month). Well case closed. Million seller indeed. Stuffing the retail channel isn't new or unheard of.



How does game that doesn't chart well sell millions in homes? That doesn't happen. The absence of sales data is very telling in its own.

So back to Soul Calibur V.
Is the game being sold at said launch party?
Awesome, smooth-ass return to topic transition.

That was derailed because of you.
ThatCrazyGuy
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#283

Not to keep the negative TK6 sales things going, but it's interesting.

Grayfox, or anybody. Does anybody have a sales breakdown of what price Tekken 6 sold per copy sold?

I seem to remember Namco shipping a lot to retailers, and I remember the price went down pretty quick (relatively).

I bought it at $30, and I know a lot of people bought it at $20.

It's just interesting how this kind of stuff pans out, and how much profit Namco is making if the price drops too fast, and if they have to pay some retailers back some money for unsold stock, and if Namco is like too bad, you bought those copies already.

O yea,

SC5 is awesome, hehe.
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#284

zomg click me to enrich your forum exPerience guizesssss.

And what's with this loud scratching voices/music on Gamespot's stream? :/
TDLink
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(01-25-2012, 02:49 AM)

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#285

That match was really good but I wish their audio was synched.
SDBurton
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(01-25-2012, 02:50 AM)

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#286

That was crazy. Nice match.
TDLink
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(01-25-2012, 02:56 AM)

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#287

That yoshimitsu round steal came out of nowhere. Crazy that this dude is so good with ZWEI already too.

Soakrates (GAFer) is playing on stream.
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(01-25-2012, 03:02 AM)

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#288

SOAKRATES! GO GAF.
TDLink
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Good job clutching it out Soakrates, solid play.
SDBurton
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#290

YES!
Flying Wonkey
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#291

Gotta break more throws mang.

EDIT: AHAHAHHAHA quick low. Gj
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#292

this game is so fucking good holy shit

so far ive won every match ive played with seigfried raphael and mitsurugi, and lost every match ive played with zwei :(

more impressions later, im almost up again
soakrates
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(01-25-2012, 03:15 AM)

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Haha thanks guys. I totally should not have won that.
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Originally Posted by soakrates: View Post
Haha thanks guys. I totally should not have won that.
Believe in yourself! Good luck against Hilde.
SDBurton
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(01-25-2012, 03:18 AM)

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#295

Oh this match is going to be good.
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#296

the other commentator is really killing the vibe for this event. its like someone stuck some guy from an infomercial in my SC5 stream.

and this isn't esports, no need for the interviews with the players.

game doesnt look bad though.
Skilletor
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(01-25-2012, 03:20 AM)

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#297

Wow, that throw to brave edge snap kick was sick. This game looks SO good!

Maxi is a beast!
TDLink
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Goddamn, that match was so hype. Thanks for the show soakrates, was rooting for you and you nearly had it too. That ring out you did on Hilde in round one was really badass.
Skilletor
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#299

Hilde still looks super strong. Safe as hell.

I wonder if you can quickstep what looked like a two hit charge move after the fist hit.
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Soakrates man you did a damn fine job. Mad hype!