The Technomancer
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(05-08-2012, 06:16 PM)

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Wooooow at that independent swing.
Cyan
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Originally Posted by empty vessel: View Post
I didn't even know children had masculinity.
This one didn't. Thanks, socialism.

:(
cartoon_soldier
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(05-08-2012, 06:17 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB: View Post
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...0-in-iowa.html


But not that much. Poll aggregators have Obama up 5 in Ohio. PPP is just two points over that.
Ghal, Now let's just hope the economic indicators keep going up!
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Originally Posted by jp_zer0: View Post
On the bus today I saw a young child and smiled, until I realized that something was wrong about him. I thought it was a girl at first, since he was wearing all pink, girl clothes, and shoes, but the child was a boy. the mother nonchalantly let this toddler roll around next to her, as if this was a normal thing for the family.

Of course I made all sorts of assumptions about WHY the mother would parade her son in public while wearing girls clothes. I grew up under a single mother (I wouldn't for the life of me expect the father to go along with something like this), and at no point did she dress me up or treat me like a girl.

Of course there could be all sorts of reasons. I didn't ask or approach the woman. I wanted to, but maybe I am afraid to hear the next liberal excuse as to why this child's masculinity was ripped from him. I felt bad, especially since who knows, it could have been me...
This is absolutely the greatest avatar and post combination I've ever seen.

Also, I find it funny that the only offending thing that you point to seems to be the color of the clothes. Do you realize that for a long time colors and clothing were used interchangeably on children, and that for at least a little while people viewed pink as the boys color (due to its relation to red, the more fiery color), and blue was the softer, girly color? Social norms expectations, especially with clothing change.
Aaron Strife
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Putting on my pundit hat now

"Obama leads Romney by 7 in Ohio"

TOSS-UP

"Obama leads Romney by 10 in Iowa"

LEAN ROMNEY
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sc0la
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
"Obama leads Romney by 7 in Ohio"

TOSS-UP

"Obama leads Romney by 10 in Iowa"

LEAN ROMNEY
I lol'd :D
ToxicAdam
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB: View Post
But not that much. Poll aggregators have Obama up 5 in Ohio. PPP is just two points over that.

So, it would be reasonable to say that there are polls that only have Obama up by 2-3 points. That would be closer. No need to get prickly.
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I need to stop reading the Ron Paul thread and get back to work. That thread is one of the funniest things I've read in a while.
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
Democrats want it to be true, but Kasich isn't harming the party. He currently has a 44/42 approval rating and is still trending upwards. I find it dubious that anyone votes for a President based upon how they feel about a Governor anyways. Unless of course that Governor is also up for election in the same year.

Romney's problems in Ohio are just the same one's he has around the country. Not popular with people making less than 50k (working class), not popular with women and not popular with minorities. There's nothing currently in his campaign that is going to turn that around.
Not that I really think a bad governor can tarnish a party's brand (even Walker in Wisconsin - he's polarized the electorate, but not to a point where Republicans can't still win elections), but Kasich's approval rating in the PPP poll is 38/49.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
Not that I really think a bad governor can tarnish a party's brand (even Walker in Wisconsin - he's polarized the electorate, but not to a point where Republicans can't still win elections), but Kasich's approval rating in the PPP poll is 38/49.

The Dispatch had him at a +2 right before the March primary.
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Originally Posted by jp_zer0: View Post
On the bus today I saw a young child and smiled, until I realized that something was wrong about him. I thought it was a girl at first, since he was wearing all pink, girl clothes, and shoes, but the child was a boy. the mother nonchalantly let this toddler roll around next to her, as if this was a normal thing for the family.

Of course I made all sorts of assumptions about WHY the mother would parade her son in public while wearing girls clothes. I grew up under a single mother (I wouldn't for the life of me expect the father to go along with something like this), and at no point did she dress me up or treat me like a girl.

Of course there could be all sorts of reasons. I didn't ask or approach the woman. I wanted to, but maybe I am afraid to hear the next liberal excuse as to why this child's masculinity was ripped from him. I felt bad, especially since who knows, it could have been me...
Joke post?

Joke post.
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Ohio's governor is no Rick Scott, his numbers are somewhat impressive considering the economy. The state will be decided by who can win blue collar white voters. Considering Obama's problems with that group he won't be closing the deal anytime soon. Romney has plenty of time to turn things around, especially with the economy stagnating again
Blergmeister
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
Putting on my pundit hat now

"Obama leads Romney by 7 in Ohio"

TOSS-UP

"Obama leads Romney by 10 in Iowa"

LEAN ROMNEY
Haha I picture the chickenhawk meme with this.
gcubed
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Ohio's governor is no Rick Scott, his numbers are somewhat impressive considering the economy. The state will be decided by who can win blue collar white voters. Considering Obama's problems with that group he won't be closing the deal anytime soon. Romney has plenty of time to turn things around, especially with the economy stagnating again
who do you mean as his? Kaisch? The economy in Ohio is above average compared to the rest of the US.
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Originally Posted by Tim-E: View Post
Romney needs to play it safe and pick someone dry like Portman who draws no attention to themselves. Then again, it'll do even more to bore everyone of the Romney ticket.
That's like going from eating raw broccoli to eating raw broccoli on dry rye.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
The state will be decided by who can win blue collar white voters. Considering Obama's problems with that group
Your point is moot.
speculawyer
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Ohio's governor is no Rick Scott, his numbers are somewhat impressive considering the economy. The state will be decided by who can win blue collar white voters. Considering Obama's problems with that group he won't be closing the deal anytime soon. Romney has plenty of time to turn things around, especially with the economy stagnating again
Yeah, Romney has such a connection to blue collar voters. He can really understand their position and feel their pain. So I'm sure they'll flock to him



LOL.
maximum360
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
So, it would be reasonable to say that there are polls that only have Obama up by 2-3 points. That would be closer. No need to get prickly.
Well in his defense he did say he was a bit more prickly today than usual. :p
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Originally Posted by Tim-E: View Post
I need to stop reading the Ron Paul thread and get back to work. That thread is one of the funniest things I've read in a while.
I need a simplified The Greatest Hits version of that thread.
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Told you guys a few times don't worry about Iowa. They love Obama in the major 3 college cities that make up the bulk of the population and the rural area that went for Bush and McCain in past years HATES Romney which is why they went with Santorum
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Poll: Warren And Brown Still Tied In Massachusetts
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-massachusetts

Still can't break through, despite republicans imploding with women voters.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Poll: Warren And Brown Still Tied In Massachusetts
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-massachusetts

Still can't break through, despite republicans imploding with women voters.
Ah. It's Rasmussen, so that means she's still ahead. Good.
Aaron Strife
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
The Dispatch had him at a +2 right before the March primary.
That's quite the disparity then, but whatever.

I could see with the economy recovering there being a weird sort of double effect of people easing up to Republican governors, while giving Obama credit for the economic recovery. In 2014, the most partisan of the 2010 class (Kasich, Brewer, Snyder, Scott, Walker if he wins the recall etc.) might still have have tough re-election fights just because of their personality and governing style, but I could see like, Susana Martinez in New Mexico holding on pretty easily.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Poll: Warren And Brown Still Tied In Massachusetts
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-massachusetts

Still can't break through, despite republicans imploding with women voters.
because 1) its harder to beat an incumbent and 2) its harder to beat a decent incumbent.
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Originally Posted by gcubed: View Post
because 1) its harder to beat an incumbent and 2) its harder to beat a decent incumbent.
Especially as a minority
Black Republican
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whats the odds of obama winning Montana?
Tim-E
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Originally Posted by RustyNails: View Post
I need a simplified The Greatest Hits version of that thread.
Read Ridleyscott's post history.
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
Especially as a minority
OK, that made me laugh.
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
Especially as a minority
HEY-O
ToxicAdam
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Future Bachmann-esque presidential candidate in 2016:


Quote:
I look at what happened between President Obama and President Karzai as a 1930s, Chamberlain, Hitler moment. There is not going to be peace in our time,”

- Congressman Allen West.
foreheadslap
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
Especially as a minority
i'm upset that i didnt think of that as i was typing the response. Well played sir
GhaleonEB
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
So, it would be reasonable to say that there are polls that only have Obama up by 2-3 points. That would be closer. No need to get prickly.
Pointing out the polling average is prickly? Interesting.
speculawyer
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
Future Bachmann-esque presidential candidate in 2016:

foreheadslap
He has really adopted the schtick of going for outrageous statement to get press. He goes McCarthy, he goes Chamberlin, etc. But he better be careful. At what point do people realize that he is not a serious thinker but instead just an over-the-top talking point spewer. He seems more like an AM radio talk show host than legislator.

C'mon man . . . yeah, those hordes of destitute illiterate Taliban are going to jump in the backs of the Toyota pick-ups and drive the USA and invade us with their AK-47s.


Of course, if Pakistan sinks into chaos, he'll point to it and say "See . . . . just like the invasion of Poland!" Never mind that the Pakistan Taliban have been in Pakistan the whole time.
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Doomed. Again.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...y-7-nationally
Clevinger
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Originally Posted by Dax01: View Post
Probably just the Bin Laden bump.
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
Especially as a minority
Boom.
Aaron Strife
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Originally Posted by Clevinger: View Post
Probably just the Bin Laden bump.
Probably just voters still enamored by the first black president.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
Probably just voters still enamored by the first Muslim president.
Fixed
Aaron Strife
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Originally Posted by ClovingSteam: View Post
Fixed
I heard Donald Trump is asking where the birth certificate is.

In other news, Arlen Specter announced he's caucusing with the Democrats. They have a supermajority! Should be smooth sailing.
Crisco
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(05-08-2012, 09:50 PM)

This will be the most uninteresting election since 1996.
Amir0x
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even though I am only voting for Obama purely for supreme court purposes this time around, I really want to win even more than I did last time around for the simple fact that the Republicans at my job - which make up 99.9% of the entire workforce in my Army Depot - are so obnoxious about how bad Obama is going to lose. It's going to be HILARIOUS to watch the day after meltdowns if Obama wins. They really think everyone in the country hates him and can't wait for the chance to kick him out.
Officerrob
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At this point Rasmussen really needs to stop trolling. Nobody but crazy Paulites actually believe that an Obama/Paul match-up is a fucking tie. Why are they even polling for Paul/Obama?
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Originally Posted by Chichikov: View Post
Kadima just jumped in.
"Unity government" bullshit.
Mofaz knew he would get crushed in the election.
It's all political crap.
It was obvious, Mofaz is still a Likud man in pretty much every way. Kadima is a joke of a party.
I think canceling the early elections is for the best though - It'll give the protests in the summer more headlines in the news and this might change public opinion just enough that by the time the election rolls over Bibi will be given the swift kick in the ass he deserves.

And I don't see how this decrease the chance of Israel air striking in Iran (which is almost non-existent as it is), if anything this slightly increases it.
GhaleonEB
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Originally Posted by Amir0x: View Post
even though I am only voting for Obama purely for supreme court purposes this time around, I really want to win even more than I did last time around for the simple fact that the Republicans at my job - which make up 99.9% of the entire workforce in my Army Depot - are so obnoxious about how bad Obama is going to lose. It's going to be HILARIOUS to watch the day after meltdowns if Obama wins. They really think everyone in the country hates him and can't wait for the chance to kick him out.
I can't even imagine the right wing freak outs after Obama wins again. It will be awe-inspiring.
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Originally Posted by Amir0x: View Post
even though I am only voting for Obama purely for supreme court purposes this time around, I really want to win even more than I did last time around for the simple fact that the Republicans at my job - which make up 99.9% of the entire workforce in my Army Depot - are so obnoxious about how bad Obama is going to lose. It's going to be HILARIOUS to watch the day after meltdowns if Obama wins. They really think everyone in the country hates him and can't wait for the chance to kick him out.
dat bubble

Someone is going to capitalize on that with conspiracy theories of voter fraud, and I fully expect it to be on Drudge/Fox News rather quickly. And you just know elected officials will chime in. It'll be disgusting and amusing
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Originally Posted by Amir0x: View Post
Even though I am only voting for Obama purely for supreme court purposes this time around.
Really?
daedalius
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB: View Post
I can't even imagine the right wing freak outs after Obama wins again. It will be awe-inspiring.
Facebook feed will be screenshot-worthy I think.
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Originally Posted by daedalius: View Post
Facebook feed will be screenshot-worthy I think.
I fully expect a lot of peoples' true colors to come out in a spectacular way.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
I fully expect a lot of peoples' true colors to come out in a spectacular way.
Yeah, thank God for Facebook sometimes.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
Really?
It's funny seeing the fiercest Obama fans from 08 come to my side. Hillary looks better every day

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