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A lot of independents and even dems seem to be thinking we're getting on the right track now, so even with Romney they would honestly answer "yes" to the economy improving under him. Meanwhile most republicans think the second term is when Obama sells us into slavery to Europe,, so of course they'll have a more polarized view. Its slanted questioning making up fake numbers. You know what isn't slanted numbers? State by state polling. Where swing states currently stand: New Hampshire - Obama up by 9% as of 4/23. New Mexico - Obama up by 14% as of 4/25. Doesn't seem like much of a swing state these days. North Carolina - Obama up by 4% as of 5/1. Nevada - Obama up by 8% as of 5/2. Virginia - Obama up by 7% as of 5/3. Pennsylvania - Obama up by 8% as of 5/3. Iowa - Obama up by 10% as of 5/8. Florida - Obama up by 1% by latest Suffolk (5/9), Romney up by 1% as of latest Quinny (5/3). Ohio - Obama up by 1% by latest Quinny (5/10), up by 7% (latest Public Policy), up by 2% by the previous Quinny (5/3). Minnesota - Obama by 14% in latest SurveyUSA (5/11). Michigan - Obama up by 5% as of 5/11. Colorado - current tie as of 4/23 polls. 4/10 poll had Obama up by 13% on Romney in particular. Wisconsin - Obama by 4% using Rasmussen's fishy "likely voters" numbers on 5/11, Obama by 9% in a Marquette Uni. poll of registered voters as of 5/3. If you just count up the electoral college votes based on the obvious states for each and then add in the strongly leaning Obama states by recent polling data (NH, NM, NV, PA, IA, MN) you have Obama and Romney standing at these numbers: Obama - 253 Romney - 191 That means Romney can't lose a SINGLE state out of VA, WI, CO, OH, FL, NC. When current polling data has Obama leading in all but FL, which is a dead heat. Obama is going to focus his money on the rust belt mid-west region (WI, PA, IA, OH, MI) and the three southern states (VA, NC, FL) with a little bit of a detour into the Rockies to make sure NV and NM don't flip and likely quite able to push CO his way. Romney will win the die hard GOP states by 20+ points. Obama will only win the die hard dem states by 10-15 points. But Obama is very possibly going to clean up the swing states unless Romney can find a game changer. Problem for Romney is he's scared stiff after the primaries, how much real conservatives hate him, and how badly McCain dropped the ball with Palin. He's going to play it straight and convince himself that national polling means he's within striking distance. Then come election night Obama will start gobbling up swing states. Axelrod with Obama on the point is the GOP's nightmare tandem. Barack and Michelle have huge likeability numbers and he's been guiding his public speaking towards his regional platforms for over a year now. Axelrod has already designed a very hard to beat strategy. Together they've got a fund raising entity that will make Romney incredibly reliant on PACs where many voters after the primaries are already far more wary about them. |
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Nebraska primary tomorrow (not that anyone cares). Its non-stop commercials for the Republican senate race here with everyone beating each other up. Supposedly it might come down to the wire with some last minute endorsements and ad blitzes but I think Bruning will still get it easily. Democrat side is extremely boring. Ill go vote for Bob Kerry but I dont think ive ever heard an ad for anyone else.
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Power Girl's bosom
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Interesting last minute article
I hate bruning also. Deb Fischer seems ok although I am always wary of rural Nebraskans since they can have a real distorted view sometimes. |
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It is strange to me that Obama thought this was a good way to do it. It made him look forced into revealing his position and unready for it. Obama revealed support for marriage for the LGBT community only after Biden's comments. Leading from behind takes on a new meaning in that scenario.
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I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
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In other news: does this describe someone familiar to you?
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Taken from the top Google result on Sociopath It's also fascinating how much this applies to many politicians, but Mittens hit more bullet points then I at first thought If the aforementioned person really is a Sociopath, then there is a high probability some of the non-bolded bullet points have happened, but have been covered up. In other news, it scares the shit out of me that people are this way and in positions of power, but that's for another thread. *I am by no means a psychologist, and credentials consist of one college class in Psychology. Edit: Damnit, i'm turning into DailyKos
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The only people it's really attracting these days are egomaniacs, and those looking to manipulate the system for personal gain. The best and brightest do NOT go into politics. "good" polticians exist, but its very hard to stay principled when so much relies on compromising those principles to get yourself elected. |
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I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
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At the end, polling right now doesn't matter. Can we stop taking polls so seriously until at least September? Read the polls, look at trends, they don't need to be ignored and they don't need to be used to judge the final results either. |
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He has effectively responded to every Obama attack thus far. His campaign's quick rebound on the Lily Ledbetter issue is what made me think "hm, maybe this guy has what it takes." And since then his campaign has been going blow for blow with Obama's campaign. It'll be interesting how they handle this Bain stuff though
Really the only mis-step was the Bin Laden fight, and they were never going to win that. It was a matter of losing or losing bad, and they lost really bad on that. But of course the jobs report killed the Bin Laden story days later |
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It's called "winning the cycle," for people that think PD is serious. Romney hasn't done it once. And "blow-for-blow" is an clearly trolling, but other than the "Anne has never worked a day in her life" thing, which was quickly disavowed, Romney hasn't won a single cycle.
War on Women Bin Ladin's Death Anniversary Gay Marriage Bain Capital Attacks I'm not saying Romney doesn't have an answer for everything, I'm saying the problem is that he is being forced to answer something every single week and every single cycle, rather than pressing on some other front and putting Obama on the defensive. That's the essential battle when taking on an incumbent, but this has been a seriously terrible campaign. |
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learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
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Right now you are making ClovingSteam look like a good troll. |
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Why even spend the money relocating people if you are going to just end up firing them? Cold as ice. I fucking hate corporations. Where's our modern day FDR?
And why the fuck didn't Feingold want to give it a shot? I don't understand. I kind of lost respect for him ever since he sat this out.
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Minnesota used to be viewed as a toss up not so long ago. Its now leaning solidly Obama and it's closest states from a constituency composition standpoint are Wisconsin (swing state) and Iowa (leaning blue state). What the election really boils down to for Obama is which of the THREE regions he wants to win to lock up 270. The southeast region, VA, NC, and FL, is probably the toughest battle but would basically have the election called by 11 PM. The mid-west region of WI, OH, and IA along with MO being somewhat debatable is a strong path to victory. Then he could go for a Rockies region win by securing Colorado along with keeping NV and NM, and then adding basically any one other state from the rest of the map. Romney basically needs to pitch a shutout against the strongest campaigner the democratic party has had since Bill Clinton (and he was the strongest since JFK). They need to do this when the democrats have finally found their own counterpoint to Carl Rove (Axelrod) and have given him carte blanche regarding all things campaign oriented. Oh, and best of all, they need to do this where Wisconsin has had a democratic ground game running for over a year to oust their GOP governor and state senators, and Ohio has had a similarly long movement to block their governor's push for ending public service sector union's ability to collectively bargain. Both movements have dominated their states since getting in motion. Scott Walker and John Kasich put the nail in Romney's coffin when they went after fire fighters, police officers, and school teachers. Romney did the initial work though when he wrote of letting Detroit go bankrupt and completely poisoned the well in one of his 'home states'. |
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Walker up 9 in the latest poll. I have no idea who WeAskAmerica is or who funds their polls.
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I'd just like to reiterate that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the most useless DNC Chair ever. She spends most of her time being on the teevee, and she's not even good at defending Democrats there EITHER.
In other news...Oh, sure Jesus might side with the gays, but that doesn't mean his followers have to do the same! |
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Nothing that happens until August will have any real effect on the election (aside from Obama losing some of the black vote with this gay marriage pledge). |
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Priorities USA Bain Ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fncJZ...ature=youtu.be So, the Obama Bain Ad was only a 71k buy for a day. But it generated enough press for a week. Eric Greigo telling it good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7mLr...ature=youtu.be |
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Solyndra seems like such a weird issue to me, as a business major.
The approach is the correct one. You don't pick winners; you flood the field and see which investment becomes a success. It's the VC way. Businesses also have hit-miss investments. This isn't a surprise, or bad, it's just how investments go. Not sure why the government is held to a higher standard. |
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Nobody outside of the lot of conservative talk radio listeners care about Solyndra anymore. It got absolutely no traction. But go ahead and keep playing that same tune over and over. It makes sense, considering all you do is essentially reiterate generic conservative talking points.
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