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BioWare Apologizes for Mass Effect: Deception Errors [Comic: Chapter 16 - Complete] #1

http://www.gamespot.com/news/bioware...errors-6349818

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Gamers who picked up a new copy of the latest Mass Effect novel Mass Effect: Deception now posses somewhat of a collector's item.

Mass Effect: Deception didn't exactly tell a true story.

Writing on the official BioWare forums, community manager Chris Priestly apologized for the string of errors fans found in Mass Effect: Deception, and said changes are being made for future editions of the novel.

"The teams at Del Rey and BioWare would like to extend our sincerest apologies to the Mass Effect fans for any errors and oversights made in the recent novel Mass Effect: Deception," wrote Priestly. "We are currently working on a number of changes that will appear in future editions of the novel."

Last week, Mass Effect fans published an extensive Google Docs catalog of errors found in Mass Effect: Deception, a novel set in the Mass Effect universe. These mistakes included timeline missteps like Nick and Gillian aging six years since the events of Ascension, which is set only three years before Deception.


Mass Effect: Deception released on January 31. It was penned by William C. Dietz and published by Del Rey. Dietz is the author of several game novels, including those set in the Halo, Resistance, and Hitman franchises. Dietz also served as a writer on Resistance: Burning Skies for the PlayStation Vita.
Should've had QA read the book, lol

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Hilarious rage comics adaptation from GAF's own LumpOfCole. Chapters will be added here as he posts them for easy viewing.

UPDATE: The epic story is COMPLETE.

Prologue: http://i.imgur.com/AELwf.jpg
Ch 01: http://i.imgur.com/Ng7oJ.jpg
Ch 02: http://i.imgur.com/NPlYL.jpg
Ch 03a: http://i.imgur.com/iKqe2.jpg
Ch 03b: http://i.imgur.com/gt0NY.jpg
Ch 04: http://i.imgur.com/e8JZC.jpg
Ch 05: http://i.imgur.com/qsZCx.jpg
Ch 06: http://i.imgur.com/Q0va5.jpg
Ch 07: http://i.imgur.com/xSyRb.jpg
Ch 08: http://i.imgur.com/FwSGA.jpg
Ch 09: http://i.imgur.com/0fNJS.jpg
Ch 10: http://i.imgur.com/56b8n.jpg
Ch 11.1: http://i.imgur.com/2Cor3.jpg
Ch 11.2: http://i.imgur.com/847kR.jpg
Ch 12: http://i.imgur.com/yGMt2.jpg
Ch 13: http://i.imgur.com/Ycmcs.jpg
Ch 14: http://i.imgur.com/TYtFw.jpg
Ch 15: http://i.imgur.com/kcJh8.jpg
Ch 16: http://i.imgur.com/0ClZT.jpg
Last edited by LiK; 02-22-2012 at 01:02 PM.
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lol, GameSpot. A video game novel being a collector's item?
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Haha, Dietz, author of Halo: The Flood? What's the excuse this time? Another time constraint?
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Can't believe how screwed up this book is. Don't know why Drew Karpshyn didn't just write it. Even the Bioware books are buggy now.
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Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
Haha, Dietz, author of Halo: The Flood? What's the excuse this time? Another time constraint?
I just think that some of these writers just don't care. I mean most of these games have huge encyclopedia-size amount of back story and they just want the money.
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Originally Posted by hamchan: View Post
Can't believe how screwed up this book is. Don't know why Drew Karpshyn didn't just write it. Even the Bioware books are buggy now.
He was writing the Star Wars TOR novel Revan and working on the next one
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Don't read the books nor do i care, but i hope ME3 wont have such mistakes.
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When will be the patch avaliable?
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As someone who read the book, that's a lot of shit they would have to fix. Considering nothing of any real consequence happens, they would be better off removing the book from sale and pretending it never existed.

Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
Haha, Dietz, author of Halo: The Flood? What's the excuse this time? Another time constraint?
Nah, he just didn't give a shit, just like Kai Leng!

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Lol at people reading books based on videogames
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Originally Posted by Deathcraze: View Post
Considering nothing of any real consequence happens, they would be better off removing the book from sale and pretending it never existed.
So it's the same as every other Mass Effect book? Mass Effect 1 actually gives you a plot synopsis of the first book if you talk to Anderson about it! And ME2's book is barely mentioned outside the tutorial area with Tali.
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I'm honestly surprised they acknowledged the errors at all. They haven't commented on any of their own plot holes/inconsistencies through ME2+DLC or the comics.

This is the only ME book I haven't read so it must be really bad for Bioware to take note.
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Originally Posted by Deathcraze: View Post
As someone who read the book, that's a lot of shit they would have to fix. Considering nothing of any real consequence happens, they would be better off removing the book from sale and pretending it never existed.
Even if it's shit, people will still buy it because it's Mass Effect. That's true for the vast majority of game books. They'll fix the more glaring errors, and count even more monies as the people who bought the first edition also buy the second. Best thing to do is not buy books that are shit, no matter what game they're connected to.
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Wonder if they will offer a free update to Kindle customers.

ME books have gone downhill since the first one, Karpshyn or not.

Kai Leng is shit.
Biotoic academy plot has become dull.

I strongly believe tie-in books to have mandatory shitty stories to make the games' stories shine.

Praise the video games Gods for the glorious Halo Crytpum.
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It gets even better:

The director of the ME games Casey Hudson actually approved the book.

Casey Hudson
Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.

I think Casey Hudson is one of the best in the biz. But he should have foreseen this.
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Obligatory:

Emitan
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What is he saying about Krogans? I can't read it.
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Didn't they bring back a character that died in the previous book? And characters had completely different personalities(racist now hitting on aliens, ect)? They'd have to redo the whole book.
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It shouldn't take fan outrage to make you care about your IP. My concern for ME3 grows deeper every day.
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Are the second and third Mass Effect novels any good?

I read Revelation and thought it was alright. I thought it did a nice job building up to Mass Effect.
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Originally Posted by Darklord: View Post
Didn't they bring back a character that died in the previous book? And characters had completely different personalities(racist now hitting on aliens, ect)? They'd have to redo the whole book.
Pretty common for multi authors working on a franchise, characters constantly go out of character, but they wont see that as an error. Only actual factual errors would get fixed, any stuff that seems off or out of character will remain.
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I just read the Google doc, as someone who knows almost nothing about the games it was a fascinating read.
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I think Bioware/Mass Effect fans simply need to come to terms with the fact that the most interesting lore told in this universe was in the first's Codex. And everything following that was ruined by Mac or other writers.

Originally Posted by Darklord: View Post
Didn't they bring back a character that died in the previous book? And characters had completely different personalities(racist now hitting on aliens, ect)? They'd have to redo the whole book.
Dietz portrayed Halo's Master Chief as Duke Nukem, so this is no surprise.
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Originally Posted by Deathcraze: View Post
As someone who read the book, that's a lot of shit they would have to fix.
Yeah, just start over with 3 elements.

Kai Leng
The Citadel
Richard K. Morgan
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Originally Posted by Billychu: View Post
So it's the same as every other Mass Effect book? Mass Effect 1 actually gives you a plot synopsis of the first book if you talk to Anderson about it! And ME2's book is barely mentioned outside the tutorial area with Tali.
You could at least argue that the previous books helped build the universe, going a bit more in depth into some things and pointed at things to come. There's bugger all in Deception really.

Originally Posted by Aaron: View Post
Even if it's shit, people will still buy it because it's Mass Effect. That's true for the vast majority of game books. They'll fix the more glaring errors, and count even more monies as the people who bought the first edition also buy the second. Best thing to do is not buy books that are shit, no matter what game they're connected to.
I was amazed when I read people saying as much on the Bioware forums, personally I'm done with the books and the comics as monome is right, the quality has been going downhill. Well, the comics were always shit, but you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by Catshade: View Post
Obligatory:

Haha, hadn't seen that. :)
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Slightly off topic, but are any of the TOR novels worth a read?
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Originally Posted by Deathcraze: View Post
You could at least argue that the previous books helped build the universe, going a bit more in depth into some things and pointed at things to come. There's bugger all in Deception really.



I was amazed when I read people saying as much on the Bioware forums, personally I'm done with the books and the comics as monome is right, the quality has been going downhill. Well, the comics were always shit, but you know what I mean.



Haha, hadn't seen that. :)
No world building? Skipping it then. That's why I read them.
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Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
Haha, Dietz, author of Halo: The Flood? What's the excuse this time? Another time constraint?
Oh man, it is the same guy.
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
Slightly off topic, but are any of the TOR novels worth a read?
Fatal Alliance was drawn out and borin. Deceived was good, but really short. Revan had questionable story choices with fans, but has lot of good background for the games setting and seems to go into stuff that will likely play a major part in the games future.
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
Slightly off topic, but are any of the TOR novels worth a read?
if you hate yourself and the original KOTORs maybe
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Originally Posted by Izick: View Post
Are the second and third Mass Effect novels any good?

I read Revelation and thought it was alright. I thought it did a nice job building up to Mass Effect.
Not really, they reminded me of bad Star Wars/Star Trek novels.
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Originally Posted by Jenga: View Post
if you hate yourself and the original KOTORs maybe
2 of the 3 had nothing to do with KOTOR
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Originally Posted by BattleMonkey: View Post
2 of the 3 had nothing to do with KOTOR
bad by extension
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Originally Posted by hamchan: View Post
Can't believe how screwed up this book is. Don't know why Drew Karpshyn didn't just write it. Even the Bioware books are buggy now.
Jasper Fforde releases *patches* for his books. Awesomely, given the subject matter of some of his books, *they do not break the fourth wall*.

http://www.jasperfforde.com/upgrade/upgrade.html
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Quote:
BioWare Apologizes for Mass Effect
Should be Dragon Age 2
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Originally Posted by Bisnic: View Post
Don't read the books nor do i care, but i hope ME3 wont have such mistakes.
Having read the leaked script (not gonna spoil anything): Boy, are you in for a surprise.
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Originally Posted by Jenga: View Post
bad by extension
Extension of logic it seems
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Originally Posted by Izick: View Post
Are the second and third Mass Effect novels any good?

I read Revelation and thought it was alright. I thought it did a nice job building up to Mass Effect.
Loved the first one, the second one (Ascension?) was pretty bad.
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ha ha ha fuckin nerds who buys and reads videogame novels get a real book ya dorks
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Originally Posted by EatChildren: View Post
ha ha ha fuckin nerds who buys and reads videogame novels get a real book ya dorks
I'm going to assume you're being serious just so I can agree with you.
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Originally Posted by thetrin: View Post
I'm going to assume you're being serious just so I can agree with you.
You havent seen his picture of all the ME novels he owns i bet.
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The patch will be available as a DLC. Only 10 bucks. Oh, it will also have online pass, and will be necessary to get the best ending in Mass Effect 3. Galaxy readiness, lol.
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Originally Posted by DennisK4: View Post
Should be Dragon Age 2
I think it's more that people who bought this novel had some misaligned expectations about what should happen. It's Sci-fi guys, people age differently in space :P
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Originally Posted by EatChildren: View Post
ha ha ha fuckin nerds who buys and reads videogame novels get a real book ya dorks
We even have some of these freaks here on GAF

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I can explain.
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I saw this on Penny Arcade and clicked onto that file where they compiled all the things that book got wrong.

Holy mother of god. And not at the amount of errors in the book but at the amount of shit that fanboys actually know about a goddamn fictional sci-fi universe.

I mean, krogan biology? FFS, I bet they know less about human biology than they do about krogan biology.
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Originally Posted by EatChildren: View Post
ha ha ha fuckin nerds who buys and reads videogame novels get a real book ya dorks
Oh you!
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You have just made my day, brilliant!