[Grover Cleveland]

#24! WOOHOO!

What do you know? 24 is also the number of Five Buck Boxes Fatman can consume in one sitting!


Also LMAO at power rankings before the draft

[snesfreak]

What do you know? 24 is also the number of Five Buck Boxes Fatman can consume in one sitting!

Reported.

[Buckethead]

It's not our fault you can't get women.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Tracy Porter.

Joel Dreesen? GTFO.

His career stats look like Shannon Sharpe's single season stats.

[Bowser]

Reported.

[Godslay]

Son of a bitch.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Walton will get the job done. Although Saturday would have likely made the transistion a bit easier for the other linemen just knowing Manning.

I think the only thing we will see done on the line is Kuper coming back, and Franklin moving to guard instead of right tackle. Harris will likely be the right tackle from what I understand.

The position we are in dire need of is a defensive tackle. That is why I drafted one in the first round in the mock. I was hoping that Bunkley would resign with us but he went to the Saints. Warren will come back, and Vickerson is there, but I don't have much faith in either. With the new TE signing almost all needs are on the defensive side. Maybe with the exception of a solid RB to replace McGahee or a good change of pace back if Knowshon doesn't make it back.

[jmdajr]

WOOHOO offseason NFL power rankings!! http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...power-rankings

So who else has lost as many starters as the Texans?

[MechDX]

So who else has lost as many starters as the Texans?

Meh..

The sky is not falling. Everyone seems to forget we resigned two HUGE needs in the off season: Foster and Myers.

-We all knew Mario was pretty much gone and after last season and not needed.
-Dreesen? He is a back up TE, I feel Graham will step in just fine.
-Winston while surprising, isnt a complete shock. Guy just can not handle speed rushers at all. You have a capable back up in Butler who will step in.
-Jason Allen. I trust in Wade after the Miracle Worker job he did last year. I suspect we will see a Jackson/Brandon "No fly zone" Harris combo next year in the same vein as Jackson/Allen. With Harris pushing KJ hard.
-Demeco. While the leadership issue hurts, physically he just did not do much to warrant what we are paying him. He is a MLB in a 4-3. I GUARANTEE Demeco talked to Cushing and told him it was his D now and to be the leader which Cush will do a great job being the leader.

Briesel-This one is the only one that stings. Underrated guy who just goes out weekly and plays his ass off. But the Raiders over paid and we shouldnt get into that game. I would much rather spend the money on myers. the guy only calls out the assignments on EVERY offensive snap...

We will be fine.

[Godslay]

Tracy Porter. Joel Dreesen? GTFO. His career stats look like Shannon Sharpe's single season stats.

Porter is an upgrade over Goodman, and as far as TE we need anybody we can get. Don't forget we have Julius Thomas as well. If he can do what he did in the shortened time he had last year, he will be a force with Manning. Dressen was a smart signing that adresses a need.

[MechDX]

Porter is an upgrade over Goodman, and as far as TE we need anybody we can get. Don't forget we have Julius Thomas as well. If he can do what he did in the shortened time he had last year, he will be a force with Manning. Dressen was a smart signing that adresses a need.

While Dreesens stats are not that great, guy can make some clutch catches and is alos a good blocker.

[Buckethead]

This draft is incredibly weak for safeties.

That's unfortunate.

If Charlie Peprah is on the 2012 Packers football team I'm going to fly to Green Bay and kick Mike McCarthy in the nuts.

[Grover Cleveland]

Reported.

Eh, now! Why you gotta be like that?

I was just astounded by Mr. Freeman's remarkable ability to eat Mexican food. No need to get hasty and do something silly.

And besides Freeman is a fat dude, you have no case. Had he been a fat chick, this thread would've been shut down many a moon ago.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Porter is an upgrade over Goodman, and as far as TE we need anybody we can get. Don't forget we have Julius Thomas as well. If he can do what he did in the shortened time he had last year, he will be a force with Manning. Dressen was a smart signing that adresses a need.

I have more of an issue with Dressen.

I wish Graham had panned out.

I'm also a little sore about ditching a Buffalo and bringin in a Ram.

[Godslay]

While Dreesens stats are not that great, guy can make some clutch catches and is alos a good blocker.

We lost three TEs this year (Fells, Rosario, and Green). Dressen is a good addition imo. Especially if you say he is a good blocker.

[TheLegendary]

Packers got Saturday...noone posted anything or am I that out of the loop/busy?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/143737616.html

[Buckethead]

Grover the fact that Freeman is fat ass that should go to fat camp is not a spoiler.

I believe that spoilering non-spoilers like that is a bannable offense.

I'd appreciate it if you'd follow the TOS.

Thank you, sir.

[snesfreak]

Grover the fact that Freeman is fat ass that should go to fat camp is not a spoiler. I believe that spoilering non-spoilers like that is a bannable offense. I'd appreciate it if you'd follow the TOS. Thank you, sir.

Reported for backseat modding

[effzee]

I doubt you will agree but I thought that the Eagles did a much better job of bringing in guys towards the beginning of Reid's tenure when he had all the power. I think spliting things 3 ways like they did can make things a bit confused. hopefully with one clear voice in charge things will be better going forward.

I can't agree because I am not sure anymore. Reid has had a lot of influence throughout his time in Philly while reports and speculation suggest he lost some of that pull when certain FO guys left.

I don't know how much of that I believe. And if we are to believe he had more power than now, though he retained his VP of Personnel title, he was responsible for the complete lack of talent at WR from 99-2004 and failure to solidify the LB position. So if its true than yeah maybe he was a better talent scout than the guys running the show the past few years but he was still in charge when they made some terrible moves early on.

[MechDX]

Packers got Saturday...noone posted anything or am I that out of the loop/busy?

Yeah they signed him and it was posted. Stay off the alcohol and you wouldnt miss such things.

[RBH]

I hope that NAS thread in the OT forum doesn't turn into another Liam Neeson thread where half of the thread gets banned. :/


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467564

[Buckethead]

Reported for backseat modding

got me there

[TheLegendary]

Yeah they signed him and it was posted. Stay off the alcohol and you wouldnt miss such things.

Drinking at work would make the day so much easier

[snesfreak]

I hope that NAS thread in the OT forum doesn't turn into another Liam Neeson thread where half of the thread gets banned. :/ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467564

[Buckethead]

Drinking at work would make the day so much easier

I drink at work all the time.

[Grover Cleveland]

Grover the fact that Freeman is fat ass that should go to fat camp is not a spoiler. I believe that spoilering non-spoilers like that is a bannable offense. I'd appreciate it if you'd follow the TOS. Thank you, sir.

Alright, I'm sorry.

Bucket's got his panties all in a bunch. Just because the Packers D sucks dick, doesn't mean he has to take out his frustrations on us.

[Slo]

I drink at work all the time.

This is the truth. You've just got to hit that mark.

[Buckethead]

How rude Grover. I thought that we were friends.

[LiveWire]

Redskins update as well: Dan Graziano ‏ @espn_ RT @alexmarvez: #Redskins LB Lorenzo Alexander says NFL cap penalty hindering contract talks 2 re-sign LB London Fletcher

Cap penalty is hindering it? How about signing Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan before even signing your team leader? smh

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

Dolphins have lost only 4 starters, but with 2 of them being Bell and Marshall.. it stings.

Apparently Ireland assured Bell at the scouting combine that he would remain a Dolphins without any restructuring of his contract. And then Ireland cuts him. I bet he joins Welker in greener pastures.

[eznark]

Hopefully the Jeff Saturday signing means way more no huddle offense. It also is a huge improvement to not just the depth of the line, but also at the center position. PFO had Saturday as a top 5 center last year. That's fantastic. I think Wells was like 15. Center isn't a terribly important position in the Packers offense, but having a guy who will be able to recognize and call assignments is massive.

Love it. Very thrilled.

[levious]

Drinking at work would make the day so much easier

the accidental overtime would be nice too.

[jmdajr]

Meh.. We will be fine.

[CoffeeJanitor]

That's an extreme hypothetical and I think it misses the point a little. You're preaching to the choir. Of course there's a difference between legal play and going after someone intentionally. In this case, there's no question wrong was committed and the players should be punished and IMO more harshly than the coaches. (I've already said as much). Having said that, if you're screaming righteous indignation about assault or crimes committed, then what would you propose? Should they be arrested? Is it that severe?Moving forward, should Goodell regulate intent moreso than he's even doing today? How much of a detriment is that to the game? You could make the argument that the hit I posted on Favre could have been avoided/be less violent in execution. It would be a good argument as the hit could be considered excessive by many. If you make that argument though or say hypothetically the player who put the hit on Favre were heavily fined and singled out, I'm willing to bet that a large contingent of posters here would scream their own righteous indignation about the pussification of the league. We've seen it time and time again. Hell, I've done it more often than not. What I'm getting at is there's a culture (cue Cajun culture jokes!) embedded in these players to deliver these big hits (with or without bounties), whether it be to get on a highlight reel or get their ego stroked by their teammates and that may be at the cost of the health of the player on the other end of it. The intention, in many cases is *not* to injure but unfortunately its a consequence. To some extent football fans are guilty as well. I never want to see a guy injured but I love to see a big nasty hit that puts a guy on his ass. How do you regulate the intention of that hit? Goodell has tried to do that in the past couple of seasons and fans have given him copious amounts of shit for doing so and doing it inconsistently at best. Can you? I don't know the limits of your strength.;)

Pussification is such a horrible term. When used in debate it marginalizes whatever safety issue people are talking about.

Its a game. You seem to be arguing about entertainment vs safety. I think its clear which is more importantalso just because a bunch of fans get pissed doesnt mean something is wrong

[TheLegendary]

Plus this means we can go all defense all day in the draft. Last time we did that we ended up with Matthews and Raji in the first round. <3

Still mad at you Raji. Shape up or we send your ass back to Brooklyn!

[Grover Cleveland]

How rude Grover. I thought that we were friends.

I joke, I joke, I kid, I kid.

Packers D does suck, though.

[Milchjon]

I hope that NAS thread in the OT forum doesn't turn into another Liam Neeson thread where half of the thread gets banned. :/ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467564

Stupid me almost did just that.

[Buckethead]

Packers D does suck, though.

Yep that #1 defense in 2009 pre-Playoff bed shitting... Super Bowl defense in 2010.... and #1 Turnover ratio in 2011 is FUCKING HORRIBLE.

Zip your lip, Tarheel scum.

Hopefully the Jeff Saturday signing means way more no huddle offense. It also is a huge improvement to not just the depth of the line, but also at the center position. PFO had Saturday as a top 5 center last year. That's fantastic. I think Wells was like 15. Center isn't a terribly important position in the Packers offense, but having a guy who will be able to recognize and call assignments is massive. Love it. Very thrilled.

Hey buddy, why do you think they let Wells go?

Wanted too much money?
Problems getting to the "next level" in blocking schemes?

I've never analyzed his play too much.

[yankeehater]

Cap penalty is hindering it? How about signing Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan before even signing your team leader? smh

My guess is the Skins just dont want to pay what he is asking and are using the cap as an excuse. The market for MLBs is incredible soft this year, I bet they will resign him on the cheap closer to the draft.

[MechDX]

EXACTLY!

Superbowl, Texans vs Packers.

Texans take the lead in the last 30 seconds with Scahub hitting Owen Daniels for a TD. .Mathews blitzes and gets knocked out cold by our first round pick Konz from Wisconsin.

Packers get the ball at their own 20 and on the first play Rodgers throws a quick out that gets intercepted for a pick 6 by JJ watt. Packers GAF goes ballistic and is not heard from for 6 months.

Its all part of the plan...

[Grover Cleveland]

I hope that NAS thread in the OT forum doesn't turn into another Liam Neeson thread where half of the thread gets banned. :/ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467564

That thread's about to get nuked.

Had I not seen the aftermath of the Liam Neeson thread, I probably would've posted something in there. But now, I think I'll pass.

[TheLegendary]

EXACTLY! Superbowl, Texans vs Packers. Texans take the lead in the last 30 seconds with Scahub hitting Owen Daniels for a TD. .Mathews blitzes and gets knocked out cold by our first round pick Konz from Wisconsin. Packers get the ball at their own 20 and on the first play Rodgers throws a quick out that gets intercepted for a pick 6 by JJ watt. Packers GAF goes ballistic and is not heard from for 6 months. Its all part of the plan...

I was all aboard the Texans hype train last year. F that noise. Now I'm rooting for your season to crash and burn (not that I'll need to since they do every year anyway).

[RBH]

To celebrate the arrival of NFL quarterback Tim Tebow to the New York Jets, Virgin Atlantic Airways has offered to provide Tebow with free flights to London and unlimited access to the airline's new JFK Clubhouse... so long as he stays a virgin. In their statement, the airline said, "The 'penalty flag' will only be thrown if the quarterback 'gets sacked' and 'loses possession' of his V-card."

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2012/0...#ixzz1pxX58ojF

[harSon]

I don't get the Steelers at #9, but whatever. Totally useless rankings.

What don't you get? We're consistently good, still have at least a top 10 defense and have Ben Roethlisberger at QB.

[snesfreak]

Nah, Super Bowl will be Bucs vs either the New York Tebows (LOL) or Peyton Manning's Broncos of Denver.

[Grover Cleveland]

Yep that #1 defense in 2009 pre-Playoff bed shitting... Super Bowl defense in 2010.... and #1 Turnover ratio in 2011 is FUCKING HORRIBLE. Zip your lip, Tarheel scum.

OH HELL MOTHERFUCKING NAW. Dem's fightin' words!

[DeaconKnowledge]

Yep that #1 defense in 2009 pre-Playoff bed shitting... Super Bowl defense in 2010.... and #1 Turnover ratio in 2011 is FUCKING HORRIBLE. Zip your lip, Tarheel scum.

2009? 2010? Who cares about those years?

Packers D last year was shit. Deal with it.

[Lambtron]

Hopefully the Jeff Saturday signing means way more no huddle offense. It also is a huge improvement to not just the depth of the line, but also at the center position. PFO had Saturday as a top 5 center last year. That's fantastic. I think Wells was like 15. Center isn't a terribly important position in the Packers offense, but having a guy who will be able to recognize and call assignments is massive. Love it. Very thrilled.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited about this signing. Great move.

[NihonTiger90]

WOOHOO offseason NFL power rankings!! http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...power-rankings

#6 Texans
#7 Lions
#8 Broncos

Alliance in full effect.

[MechDX]

Nah, Super Bowl will be Bucs vs either the New York Tebows (LOL) or Peyton Manning's Broncos of Denver.

Brought to you by your freinds at Taco Bell wo introduces the Josh Freeman XXXXL Gordita Cheesy Super Crunch!

[Plinko]

What don't you get? We're consistently good, still have at least a top 10 defense and have Ben Roethlisberger at QB.

I don't count on you having a top 10 defense next year and the whole issue with Wallace could get interesting. I probably would have placed you at 11. No big deal. Like I said, these are meaningless.