[suaveric]

It'd make sense if Cross is getting some kind of bio enhancement; he'd be physiologically better than Bourne just because Bourne was only trained, not juiced up on whatever super soldier drug (as far as we know).

It was hinted at in Identity that the Treadstone agents went beyond advanced training. Remember Clive Owen's character asked Bourne if he got the really bad headaches too. There was something to that.

Also, I have to question Universal's thinking on this release date. This is set to open just two weeks after Dark Knight Rises. That's a lot of competition to go up against.

[bdizzle]

No Damon, no like. Bourne Identity is the reason I became a Matt Damon fanboy.

[artist]

I'm with Gary on this one, Day 1.

[HomerSimpson-Man]

I like it and Renner is cool by me. I shall watch the hell out of this movie.

[WrikaWrek]

Hmm

Not feeling the locations, but it looks good so far.

[hsin]

I'm day 1 on this because it's Bourne related but this turned me off from the trailer:

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

Now that Renner is Hollywood's go to action guy I guess we'll see him in the next Die Hard and Bond movies as well. Shame cause he's as boring as they come.

As for the trailer, it just looks like a rehash of the trilogy. And without Damon I could care less.

[Ratchet]

It looked okay. Too bad Damon didn't sign on for this. If he did, I think the script would've mirrored the novel, The Bourne Legacy, which, from reading its synopsis, sounds cool. Jason Bourne is in the novel. I think I'm going to read all of the novels.

[Zzoram]

It was hinted at in Identity that the Treadstone agents went beyond advanced training. Remember Clive Owen's character asked Bourne if he got the really bad headaches too. There was something to that. Also, I have to question Universal's thinking on this release date. This is set to open just two weeks after Dark Knight Rises. That's a lot of competition to go up against.

Naw, the headaches could simply refer to brainwashing type stuff. At least, that's how I interpreted it.

[AgentOtaku]

Idris Elba should be the next bond, Him or a less radical choice, Fassbender. But Elba would be amazing.

I concur

Still, trailer was surprisingly good (minus BWAAAH music)

i'm hyped

[AgentOtaku]

Now that Renner is Hollywood's go to action guy I guess we'll see him in the next Die Hard and Bond movies as well. Shame cause he's as boring as they come. As for the trailer, it just looks like a rehash of the trilogy. And without Damon I could care less.

Renner is fine

He just got a shit part with MI:GP

[Zzoram]

Fassbender would be an excellent Bond.

[MarkMclovin]

It looked okay. Too bad Damon didn't sign on for this. If he did, I think the script would've mirrored the novel, The Bourne Legacy, which, from reading its synopsis, sounds cool. Jason Bourne is in the novel. I think I'm going to read all of the novels.

I wouldn't bother apart from the first 3. And it doesn't look like this movie is following the 4th book at all.

[andycapps]

Renner is fine He just got a shit part with MI:GP

I thought he was fine in MI: GP. His character was supposed to be straight-laced for a majority of the movie until it came out who he really was. Not his problem that they wrote his script that way. Renner isn't Fassbender, but he's also not Keanu Reeves. Let's give him a shot and see what he can do with these roles. I have no doubt he'll be able to handle the action part, and the acting should be fine. The Bourne movies have never been incredible character dramas, they're awesome action movies that need to have a tight script and move quickly through their scenes.

[FoneBone]

Also, I have to question Universal's thinking on this release date. This is set to open just two weeks after Dark Knight Rises. That's a lot of competition to go up against.

Two weeks is an eternity in box-office terms. Even for something as big as that.

[Spanish Wrath]

I didn't know about this movie. It popped out from nowhere.

[FortunateSon]

All I can say is, it looks okay. I'm with the people that said, no Damon. No go.

I might give it a chance, but for now. It just looks like a generic action movie.

[Ushojax]

I'm mildly interested in a movie that genuinely explores the 'Bourne Legacy' but this looks just like the Matt Damon films except another damaged super-spy is beating the shit out of people. This trailer didn't show anything the least bit original.

[big ander]

I concur Still, trailer was surprisingly good (minus BWAAAH music) i'm hyped

Fassbender would be an excellent Bond.

At first I thought neither of these could happen because of how long Craig is signed on to be Bond. But looking at ages, if Craig is Bond for 10 more years Elba and Fassbender will be mid-to-late 40s. Which is doable, I think. Still, I'd expect a younger person.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Yeah I've never liked Landy much. Kinda wish she was ditched. And Vosen's not great, but I think Hirsch is an awesome character. but yeah, there's really no reason for the casts in these films to be as big as they are. We really don't need to follow the people pursuing bourne (or in this case cross) so closely.

Joan Allen was a great addition the series. She's a strong and independent character, as well as a great actor. The actor that plays Vosen wasn't bad either.

The problem is that Cox and Cooper are great actors, and they should've been kept alive to the end.

Wasn't there a controversy about Liman barely being involved in that movie's action sequences?

For Mr. and Mrs. Smith? Not sure.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Seems interesting, I'm a sucker for the Bourne movies so I'll probably end up seeing it. Did it bother anyone else though that it seems like they're trying to portray this new guy as "better" than Bourne? With the whole "we've never seen evaluations like this" I was under the impression that Bourne was kinda special compared to the other Blackbriar/Treadstone agents (seeing as how he kills so many of them so easily). It just seems silly if they're really going to go with the whole "Yeah, that Bourne guy was okay, but man THIS GUY is on some next level shit!" kind of thing.

It's either the behind the scenes or DC for Ultimatum, Desh was suppose to give Bourne a run for his money. An older Bourne vs a younger agent. Doesn't surprise me that they were able to find someone superior?

Also, I'm surprised Hirsch as a bigger role in Legacy, as if he's trying to track Cross? You'd figure he'd be arrested after the CIA was exposed at the end of Ultimatum.

And don't worry about the cinematography. The same cinematographer from There Will Be Blood and Michael Clayton is working on Legacy.

The Bourne movies have never been incredible character dramas, they're awesome action movies that need to have a tight script and move quickly through their scenes.

You're underestimating the underlying issue to the Bourne character, especially in the second and third films. When you look at the movies at face value, then yeah. You get a great action trilogy, but it's more than that. In Identity, Bourne is a mechanical character, but when around Marie, he becomes human. She's his moral compass.

in Supremacy, his character is even more developed. He's plagued by haunting dreams of the Neskys he killed. When he visits the German hotel where he killed them, it's pitch dark in the room, and Bourne is putting the pieces back together. When he figures it all, he looks up and looks at himself in the mirror in the darkness. He feels ashame; disgusted with himself. That's a powerful scene.

And the ending to Supremacy, when he confronts the Nesky daughter. He's admitting to the girl that he killed them, while crying. Again, another powerful scene.

Ultimatum may have been a nonstop action movie that retreaded Supremacy's plot, but another pivotal scene in Ultimatum is when Bourne tells Nicky that he's tried to apologize for who he is and what he's done, but none of it makes it even better. And it's a true statement. Sometimes apologizing doesn't make it even better.

[SpeedingUptoStop]

It's either the behind the scenes or DC for Ultimatum, Desh was suppose to give Bourne a run for his money. An older Bourne vs a younger agent. Doesn't surprise me that they were able to find someone superior?.

Another major problem I had with the Bourne movies, aside from all the blah computer rooms scenes, is how Bourne was almost never outsmarted except for the Desh stuff in Ultimatum. He never really had an equal, just steamrolling shit. In the 1st it was oaky because he was learning his power, but the next two needed lay out something more physical in the antagonist roles and they just never surfaced.

[Mike Works]

That was a really fucking annoying trailer to watch.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Another major problem I had with the Bourne movies, aside from all the blah computer rooms scenes, is how Bourne was almost never outsmarted except for the Desh stuff in Ultimatum. He never really had an equal, just steamrolling shit. In the 1st it was oaky because he was learning his power, but the next two needed lay out something more physical in the antagonist roles and they just never surfaced.

Well, the Jarda fight in Supremacy was pretty much an equal fight. They were exchanging blows, and Bourne did get bloody.

The line "Treadstone without the inconsistencies" implies that all the agents in Treadstone, who were proned to physical and psychological symptoms, have been erased with Cross, who doesn't have any of the symptoms. This new program is even more dangerous than Treadstone/Blackbriar, so it makes sense that someone can be more skillful and deadly than Bourne.

I think it'd be cool if they do make a 5th Bourne movie, they'd work some kind of plot that has Cross chasing after Bourne.

And the Bourne Identity book was boring. Couldn't make it pass the first 100 pages.

[AltogetherAndrews]

Love this. The world and plot is still interesting enough, but Jason Bourne is all used up. Liked the three movies plenty, but it felt pretty complete. This one... can't wait.

[Andrex]

Looks uninspired but I'm glad the got Landy and the other guy back.

Need to get the trilogy on BR.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

It's funny to read Gilroy's comment on Liman's Bourne Identity script. Gilroy thought Liman's script was trash, with explosions and gun fire. He basically told Liman to strip everything else, but make it about a man who lost his memory, yet has these particular skills that make him deadly.

When you watch the Legacy trailer, at least so far from what we've seen, Legacy seems to have everything that Gilroy hated about Liman's script. =\

I have a feeling that if Damon/Greengrass come back for Bourne 5, Gilroy won't be back. Nolfi, and possibly Josh Zetumer will pen the script.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

It'd be amazing if at the end of the movie, it turns out Renner has gone psychotic, then Matt Damon shows up and beats the shit out of him.

Then Bourne 5. Matt Damon's a teacher now and the CIA needs him back. He acquires a plucky student side-kick to stop... something.

[Scullibundo]

So is this going to be the first Bourne movie where the protagonist isn't a rogue being hunted by his own people?

Because if so, I'm excited. Every single one of the Bourne movies has been 'FUCK! ITS BOURNE! WHERE IS HE? I DON'T KNOW! FIND HIM! FUCK HE'S OUTSIDE! FIND HIM! GET BOURNE!'

[Jason's Ultimatum]

You couldn't tell from the trailer? Really? Of course he's being hunted by the CIA. It's the same shit like the last three Bourne movies.

[akira28]

It's funny how the books have almost nothing to do with the movies, and the movies are all about a young super agent hopped up on dat MK Ultra.

[Enco]

Meh I want my Bourne.

I'll probably watch but it wont be the same.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

New pic of Renner doing a risky slide between what looks like an alley:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...7CdmpUvevgDz-Q

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[Scullibundo]

That looks like great Photoshop material.

[Dead Man]

No shaky cam? Day 1.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

This is interesting from the latest issue of Hollywood Reporter: Renner is apparently signed on to two more films in the Bourne franchise.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-legacy-307421

Nice photoshots, but he still looks like a rat.

[luxarific]

This is interesting from the latest issue of Hollywood Reporter: Renner is apparently signed on to two more films in the Bourne franchise. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-legacy-307421 Nice photoshots, but he still looks like a rat.

Eh, I've always like his work, ever since I saw him in 28 Weeks Later. I agree that he's not a conventional "looker" though. I actually appreciate this, to be honest. Nice to have an average looking guy as the hero. Wish the same could happen for the opposite gender as well.

[Jarmel]

Trailer is hype for me. Will watch.

[Blader5489]

This is interesting from the latest issue of Hollywood Reporter: Renner is apparently signed on to two more films in the Bourne franchise.

This is basically part and parcel for every Hollywood franchise contract.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Well, Damon wants to do another one. So it's either both are in bourne 5, or Damon says fuck it and quits for good, and Renner continues on with the franchise.

[Boombloxer]

Well, Damon wants to do another one. So it's either both are in bourne 5, or Damon says fuck it and quits for good, and Renner continues on with the franchise.

Or they have dueling roles.

I wouldn't mind that, really. Damon is Bourne, hopefully Renner can own his character in the same way.

[Blader5489]

Well, Damon wants to do another one. So it's either both are in bourne 5, or Damon says fuck it and quits for good, and Renner continues on with the franchise.

Why does it have to be one or the other? I always figured the plan for a Bourne 5 -- assuming they did bring Damon back -- would be some kind of Bourne/Cross story.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I guess so. Both are in Bourne 5, and Renner in Bourne 6.

Although I'd assume Greengrass would be director, but Gilroy? Hmmm. With the latest trash talk, you'd think he'd be done with the franchise. Would be interesting to see if Renner swears allegiance to Gilroy, and he'd only do more if Gilroy is back to direct, or at least, write the script.

[Andrex]

Well, Damon wants to do another one. So it's either both are in bourne 5, or Damon says fuck it and quits for good, and Renner continues on with the franchise.

Damn, now if that doesn't happen I'll be really disappointed.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

New photo and interview with Tony Gilroy:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/168...ve-photo.jhtml

After seeing the first trailer, you might have thought "The Bourne Legacy" would be just another "spy with amnesia" movie. Director and co-writer Tony Gilroy wants you to know that you're very, very wrong. Gilroy has worked on the screenplays for the series since "The Bourne Identity" with Matt Damon, but for this new leg of the series, Gilroy knew they had to "swing away" if they wanted to bring the franchise back. For Summer Movie Preview Week, MTV News spoke with Gilroy about his first time directing a "Bourne" movie, working with Jeremy Renner and how things are different this time around. MTV News: Where did you start conceptually when it came to continuing the series? Tony Gilroy: I guess when they finished three, a lot of people spent a lot of time thinking about how and where to continue. I wasn't a part of any of those conversations. When that ran out of road, everybody had sort of moved on. After that, I was approached because they were searching for some way of continuing something. I took a very casual meeting, long after everything had stopped and Matt [Damon] and Paul [Greengrass] had gone. There were a bunch of wacky ideas that they were trying, none of which were really appealing. I said, "I don't know how I can help you, but it seems like you need a really big idea. You're really going to need to swing away if you're going to do something else, and I'm not sure if anybody's going to want to do that." I went off and did think about it a little bit and came back at them with something very ambitious and unusual. That caught some traction, and we started having conversations about it. We picked it up from there. MTV News: Was there a sense that you needed to balance the old with the new? Gilroy: I was there at the very, very beginning. It's no secret that we never really had anything to do with the book. I spent a lot of time building up the mythology over the last 13 years. It wasn't a preservation job, but it was very important to me. One of the things that was really important to me was that anything moving forward not only preserve what happened in the past, but make it better. There was never anything that was cheesy or cynical about "Bourne." The one thing that was always true was that it had a soulful integrity to it, really embodied by Matt [Damon] in a personal way. You couldn't violate what had happened in the past. MTV News: How present are the events from the first three movies in "The Bourne Legacy"? Gilroy: Everything that happened before was not a dream. Everything that happened was completely real, but you thought you knew what was going on. You thought you were seeing the world, and this movie is telling you that there's a much larger world, a much larger conspiracy beyond this. The events of the other three films are incredibly present, but they're not really in this very much. What happens in "Ultimatum" is really the spark that's blowing open the door to this movie because the Jason Bourne story is exploding out into the public. Being impossible to conceal any further is causing problems for this much larger conspiracy. "Ultimatum" plays in the background of the very beginning of this film. MTV News: We see the Jeremy Renner character enter the program in the trailer, something we didn't see until the third movie for Jason Bourne. Is this a very structurally different movie? Gilroy: Very much. Oh my God, yeah, for a whole bunch of reasons. One is that everybody in the world ripped us off. It's been done to death at this point. It's on TV three nights a week, much less Bond and everything else. The worst thing that could have been done would be to just slavishly follow some cookie-cutter pattern of visual style and storytelling style. It's a bigger movie in the terms of the journey of it and the scale of it and the amount of stories in it and where it's going. The great thing about Jason Bourne was that he was claustrophobically stuck down and trying to figure out this moral question. The whole second film is about an apology. It's really about this guy trying to morally come to grips with the conflict between who he thinks he is and what he's done. This character in this film has no moral conflict whatsoever. Jeremy Renner's character has the reverse of amnesia. He knows exactly where he's come from. He knows exactly what the stakes are if he doesn't achieve his journey. It's a very different tone, yet it will be very rewarding to people. You should be able to see the movie and not see any of them before. It's been kind of ironic. The people that were having the most trouble getting their heads around the fact that we were doing this are actually the people who I think will ultimately be the most happy about what we're doing. It has a lot of payback for the true fans. MTV News: Jeremy Renner has quickly become an action superstar. What was it like having a talent like that leading this new story? Gilroy: He's a freak. Everybody knows what a great actor he is. He's an all-in actor, just world-class. You can always double for somebody. You can always back off the action that you're going to do. There have been a lot of great action stars who can't run across the street. I was made aware as we were starting to get involved and then as we started pre-production [that] he is a physical freak. It is unbelievable. There are a couple guys out there that are like that, but they are very few and far between. He moves. He fights. He rides. He swims. He jumps, better than the stunt people. There are a couple people out there that you hear are like that. I hear Channing Tatum is a mindblower when it comes to learning stunts. You know Tom Cruise does all his stunts. Jeremy is right there. It would be hard to put someone who has a really clear identity with the audience in a part that wants to be that iconic. He's sort of in the perfect place, monster chops, monster experience. To get someone who can kick ass every day is kind of a huge surprise.

[Andrex]

After seeing the first trailer, you might have thought "The Bourne Legacy" would be just another "spy with amnesia" movie. Director and co-writer Tony Gilroy wants you to know that you're very, very wrong.

Give me a new trailer if you want to prove that I'm very, very wrong.

[Schweini]

I can't believe I only saw the trailer today.

But it was amazing. This will be better than the other Bourne movies.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Universal held a presentation for Bourne Legacy during CinemaCon:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Jerem...age-30648.html

When Adam Fogelson, chairman of Universal Pictures, began talking about The Bourne Legacy during today’s presentation at CinemaCon, he noted that a teaser is already widely available to see on the internet. Released in February, the trailer gave us a look at some of the action sequences we can expect and told us that Jason Bourne was just the tip of the iceberg, but what it really lacked was any kind of clues about the story of the film. As Fogelson then pointed out, that wouldn’t be the case with the CinemaCon footage. Just a few minutes ago I walked out of my final studio presentation at CinemaCon, and while I got to see some new stuff from exciting upcoming titles like\Ted, This is 40, Savages and Les Miserables (more on those later), the material on display for The Bourne Legacy was easily the most thought-provoking and extensive. The first thing I should mention is that it seems the events of the Tony Gilroy-directed movie actually seem to happen concurrently with the events of The Bourne Ultimatum. While it’s been known for a while that Joan Allen, David Strathairn, Albert Finney and Scott Glenn are part of the cast, the material that was presented actually included footage from the last movie, most notably scenes that had characters worrying about Jason Bourne being in New York and even a shot of Paddy Considine being killed at Waterloo Station. It’s hard to say right now how the two movies will end up dovetailing together, but it’s just interesting that they do. The scenes shown also did an effective job of setting up the character that Rachel Weisz will be playing. Going by what I saw in the footage, the Oscar-winning actress will be playing a doctor named Marta who works as part of the super-secret Treadstone operation, but gets in a bit of trouble. There was a part in the presentation where two agents approach Weisz (one of which is played by Donna Murphy), attempt to strap her to a chair, and hold a gun to her head. Fortunately, Aaron Cross (Jeremy Renner) is there to rescue her in badass fashion, taking out the baddies with skill and ingenuity (there’s a part where he uses a fire extinguisher to fire a nail at one of the agents). I also got the sense that part of the movie will involve Cross helping protect Marta from the government, as the final scene featured the protagonist jumping down a narrow alley way on to a cop who is trying to escort Marta somewhere. I can also say this with plenty of confidence: The Bourne Legacy won’t be leaving audiences wanting for more action. Though the crowd in the theater only got to see snippets from the various sequences, Renner is shown kicking a whole lot of ass and there some hints at a motorcycle chase. Other things featured were a cabin being blown to bits by a missile, a gun-toting Aaron Cross in the snow, and Cross running across rooftops.

Hmmm. So I'm guessing Joan Allen, Scott Glenn, and David Straithern will only be flashbacks in Legacy.

And what does 'concurrently' exactly mean?

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

Universal held a presentation for Bourne Legacy during CinemaCon: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Jerem...age-30648.html Hmmm. So I'm guessing Joan Allen, Scott Glenn, and David Straithern will only be flashbacks in Legacy. And what does 'concurrently' exactly mean?

It means taking place at the same time as Ultimatum. I do hope the cast aren't just appearing in previous footage though, we gotta hear the "get some rest, Pam" line again.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

That's what I thought, but judging from the media reports, the movie is supposed to take place AFTER Ultimatum.