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kayos90
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(02-17-2012, 02:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Praiseworthy

That's why we NEED to market this game through GAF like we did with Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles .

And to start that... we need to market this game through the OT title to get the readers attention.

We can do it guys... by the word of mouth we can do it, trust me.

In all honesty Demon's Souls was really good and super polished. That and it was critically acclaimed. Graces won't be so lucky...
PepsimanVsJoe
(02-17-2012, 02:24 AM)
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The main character's disco suit is bothering the hell out of me.

Might still get this despite the terrible month it's being released on.
The Praiseworthy
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(02-17-2012, 02:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

In all honesty Demon's Souls was really good and super polished. That and it was critically acclaimed. Graces won't be so lucky...

There are A LOT of starving JRPG fans on the PS3 who are DYING for an JRPG like this one.... those kind of target we should focus on.

Originally Posted by kayos90

In all honesty Demon's Souls was really good and super polished. That and it was critically acclaimed. Graces won't be so lucky...

This game is also really good. :p
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(02-17-2012, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Typae

What are the chances of this being the last Tales Of the West ever gets?

I have a gut feeling it is going to bomb, mostly because of Namco's nonexistent advertising for it.

The outlook does not look good.

• It's an HD upscale from a Wii game.
• It's a gameplay-centric JRPG, not a story-centric JRPG.
• What story there is will be seen as cliché and childish.

Among, probably, other things.

Personally, I am very overly excited that it's coming out and I know I will probably spend many, many hours on it (and it may finally force me into purchasing a PS3, heh), but I think it will not be what Western JRPG gamers want. I can already feel the game being derided. Such is life, I guess.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Typae

What are the chances of this being the last Tales Of the West ever gets?

I have a gut feeling it is going to bomb, mostly because of Namco's nonexistent advertising for it.

It doesn't help that no matter what Tales game is released in the west, "Tales fans" always want some other one more and throw a fit because they're not getting whatever one they want this week.
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 02:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Praiseworthy

There are A LOT of starving JRPG fans on the PS3 who are DYING for an JRPG like this one.... those kind of target we should focus on.

Not everyone's going to be into this, though. A few people I suggested it to--and they like Japanese-developed role-playing games a lot--aren't feeling this because they go for the photorealistic look as opposed to the stylistic approach that Tales employs. Not to mention it's an upscaled to HD game, and the narrative isn't really the draw either.

I'm the opposite and prefer stylized graphics/artstyle over photorealistic stuff, but I have a feeling that I might be in the minority.

Also, as I've repeated in various threads, I don't think some people will take too kindly to the very first arc of the game at all.

Originally Posted by Aeana

It doesn't help that no matter what Tales game is released in the west, "Tales fans" always want some other one more and throw a fit because they're not getting whatever one they want this week.

Oh, and yes, people want Vesperia PS3 still. :lol

Some of them have moved onto wanting Xillia, though.
PepsimanVsJoe
(02-17-2012, 02:31 AM)
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What kind of arc are we talking about here?

If it's anything like Abyss I am going to hate this game to death.
PixyJunket
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(02-17-2012, 02:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

It doesn't help that no matter what Tales game is released in the west, "Tales fans" always want some other one more and throw a fit because they're not getting whatever one they want this week.

That's been the case with me until now. :)

I would have gladly taken Destiny 2, Rebirth and Destiny R over Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia.

But THIS. This is the one I've really been wanting out of this round of Tales games.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

What kind of arc are we talking about here?

At the beginning of the game, the characters are children. Then there's a time skip.

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Also, as I've repeated in various threads, I don't think some people will take too kindly to the very first arc of the game at all.

What's with the first arc?
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by ULTROS!

What's with the first arc?

Kids. The bane of every matoor, grown-ass man western gamer, apparently.
daffy
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(02-17-2012, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

I really hope this is on a limited print run so it sells out.

.... I considere that completely unnacceptable and if that's the treatment we are subjected to as western Tales fans then you can count me out. I won't be even considering Abyss 3D until summer and if this game gets a shortcut I'll be seriously disappointed.

I can't believe people think its ok for company to tell them to "hurry up and buy".
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

What kind of arc are we talking about here?

The game starts when the characters are children, and you play as them for quite a while. Explore dungeons, fields, have skits, go to towns, etc. I've noticed that there seems to be some sort of vitriol towards this sort of thing.

Edit: beaten. And I guess I'll spoiler tag it. I figured people didn't know much about it, but it was in the first trailer. Apologies.

Originally Posted by Aeana

Kids. The bane of every matoor, grown-ass man western gamer, apparently.

Yep.
Last edited by Dark Schala; 02-17-2012 at 02:45 AM.
PepsimanVsJoe
(02-17-2012, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

At the beginning of the game, the characters are children. Then there's a time skip.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
jackdoe
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(02-17-2012, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

Kids. The bane of every matoor, grown-ass man western gamer, apparently.

Depending upon how bad the English VA is for the kids, this dislike may be justified.
LiK
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(02-17-2012, 02:34 AM)
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Spoilerish for noob like me, oh well
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Can you explain why that elicits such a response? I really don't understand.

In Dragon Quest 5, you start the game when the hero is 6 years old, but nobody ever whined about that. Showing the characters as children is used to show the contrast of how things are as they grow older.
zeelman
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(02-17-2012, 02:35 AM)
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The childhood part is like the prologue, its not very long at all.
The Praiseworthy
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(02-17-2012, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well... this is one of the things that got my attention about the story, seeing the main characters as kids at the start of the story then a time jump happens and they all grow up.
Meh, I can get past kids. Luke von Fabre was the worst child anyway.

Actually, I can see this game doing OK. There seem to be a number of people who aren't exactly Tales fans planning to buy this game.
PepsimanVsJoe
(02-17-2012, 02:37 AM)
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Kids in an RPG hasn't been done right since Dragon Quest 5.
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 02:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

Can you explain why that elicits such a response? I really don't understand.

In Dragon Quest 5, you start the game when the hero is 6 years old, but nobody ever whined about that. Showing the characters as children is used to show the contrast of how things are as they grow older.

Probably because they're voiced now. I don't understand it either.

By starting the game off in this manner, the overall theme happens to be communicated quite well throughout the rest of it.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:41 AM)
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Honestly, the real bad thing about the prologue is that you don't get access to the beta style until the time skip.

But as was said, it isn't that long of a segment, and I honestly think it does what it tries to do very well.
Meccanical
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(02-17-2012, 02:42 AM)
Meh, it looks like every other Tales game.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by LiK

Spoilerish for noob like me, oh well

I'm sorry, I thought it was well-known. It's in the media that's been released, even.

Originally Posted by Meccanical

Meh, it looks like every other Tales game.

It doesn't play like every other Tales game, though. Especially any one ever released in English in the past.
LiK
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(02-17-2012, 02:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Meccanical

Meh, it looks like every other Tales game.

That's how we know they're Tales
Electivirus
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(02-17-2012, 02:43 AM)
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I'll probably pick this up, but yeah, I can't say that I like the look of the game very much at all. The character designs in particular reeeeeally bug me.
A photo-realistic Tales ala Last Remnant (at the very least) will be quite something.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Electivirus

I'll probably pick this up, but yeah, I can't say that I like the look of the game very much at all. The character designs in particular reeeeeally bug me.



How you doin'?
LiK
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(02-17-2012, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

I'm sorry, I thought it was well-known. It's in the media that's been released, even.

No prob, I'm just too sensitive about it. But since you guys mentioned its short, not a big deal.
Meccanical
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(02-17-2012, 02:46 AM)

Originally Posted by Aeana


It doesn't play like every other Tales game, though. Especially any one ever released in English in the past.


Really?

The combat does look kind of interesting, not feeling the cast though, or the aesthetics of the game in general.
Ties
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(02-17-2012, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by ULTROS!

A photo-realistic Tales ala Last Remnant (at the very least) will be quite something.

Tales designs look UGLY with hyper realistic graphics.

Just look at the CG Hearts opening. :P
Electivirus
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(02-17-2012, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana



How you doin'?

...I can make exceptions.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Meccanical

Really?

The combat does look kind of interesting, not feeling the cast though, or the aesthetics of the game in general.

Check out my post here, wherein I explain why I love the game as much as I do!
The Praiseworthy
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(02-17-2012, 02:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Electivirus

I'll probably pick this up, but yeah, I can't say that I like the look of the game very much at all. The character designs in particular reeeeeally bug me.

I really like the characters design in this game <3

Originally Posted by ULTROS!

A photo-realistic Tales ala Last Remnant (at the very least) will be quite something.

We just got a realistic characters high in Tales of Xillia.... one step in a time, one step in a time :p
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 02:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

Honestly, the real bad thing about the prologue is that you don't get access to the beta style until the time skip.

But as was said, it isn't that long of a segment, and I honestly think it does what it tries to do very well.

Yeah, the battles are rather slow and one-note in the prologue.

I can also say that the prologue isn't long. Don't bother spending a lot of time in it.

Originally Posted by ULTROS!

A photo-realistic Tales ala Last Remnant (at the very least) will be quite something.

I don't think I'd want that. Hearts CG looked awful.
kayos90
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(02-17-2012, 02:50 AM)
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Despite the children's arc having well.... children, I can see some other criticism. It goes on for a little too long. The battle system is absolute garbage in the beginning (hyperbole obviously) and the theme of Mamoru! starts from beginning to end. Essentially, the beginning is not so great a beginning.


Originally Posted by Aeana

Check out my post here, wherein I explain why I love the game as much as I do!

Rofl, might as well copy and paste this in to the OT. Just kidding obviously.
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(02-17-2012, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Electivirus

The character designs in particular reeeeeally bug me.

>:(

Do not besmirch the name of Inomata in my presence. Bad things can happen.

Oh, I'll concede that her characters don't translate well to 3D, at least.

Tamanon
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(02-17-2012, 02:51 AM)
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I'm stoked for Graces F, don't like the character design as much as Vesperia, but I didn't like Vesperia's originally for the most part. Looking forward to some more Tales battling and some synthing.
Aeana
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(02-17-2012, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

Rofl, might as well copy and paste this in to the OT. Just kidding obviously.

Go ahead. I'd like to contribute in any way I can, so if you think it would be useful to include it, go for it.
kayos90
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(02-17-2012, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket

>:(

Do not besmirch the name of Inomata in my presence. Bad things can happen.

Oh, I'll concede that her characters don't translate well to 3D, at least.

Hey! That's the cover I use for my copy! Rofl. I really like this than the Green Turd that was the cover. Well... Turd might be a bit strong. I didn't like it much though.
Ties
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(02-17-2012, 02:53 AM)
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Cheria has my favorite female design in the series.

Love all of her ribbons <3
LiK
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(02-17-2012, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

Go ahead. I'd like to contribute in any way I can, so if you think it would be useful to include it, go for it.

SAGE! *hides from kiryogi*
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 02:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

Hey! That's the cover I use for my copy! Rofl. I really like this than the Green Turd that was the cover. Well... Turd might be a bit strong. I didn't like it much though.

I think almost all of us use the same cover. :lol

It's so much better, there's more emphasis on certain important characters, the poses are a lot better, and the scaling's better.

Originally Posted by Typae

Cheria has my favorite female design in the series.

Love all of her ribbons <3

She's also really fun to take manual control of!
kayos90
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(02-17-2012, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by LiK

SAGE! *hides from kiryogi*

Rofl. Aenea definitely knows her stuff so I respect her for that. I haven't been on GAF much so I can't show off my smarts. -_-'''


Originally Posted by Typae

Cheria has my favorite female design in the series.

Love all of her ribbons <3

To bad her forehead is extremely huge in the in-game model.
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(02-17-2012, 02:56 AM)
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I know this isn't an avatar thread. But anyone want to make me a cool Asbel one? Not to many ToG F avatars out there.
kayos90
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(02-17-2012, 02:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

I know this isn't an avatar thread. But anyone want to make me a cool Asbel one? Not to many ToG F avatars out there.

Not too many varied pictures of Anime Asbel. Hmm...

EDIT: Just realized, should I be spoiler tagging the intro arc? I thought it would be fine but I'll do it if people want me to.
The Praiseworthy
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(02-17-2012, 03:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

Not too many varied pictures of Anime Asbel. Hmm...

EDIT: Just realized, should I be spoiler tagging the intro arc? I thought it would be fine but I'll do it if people want me to.

But you have to write a section about the game's story in the OT... and I don't see any harm in the prologue chapter, if someone didn't want to spoil anything then they can just skip it :\

or at less this is what I think.
Dark Schala
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(02-17-2012, 03:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by kayos90

Not too many varied pictures of Anime Asbel. Hmm...

EDIT: Just realized, should I be spoiler tagging the intro arc? I thought it would be fine but I'll do it if people want me to.

Or you can excise the specifics of it altogether and go with a brief plot summary.

I kinda figured a lot of people didn't know about the childhood arc which is why I glossed over it a lot.

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