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Syph Medwes
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(02-25-2012, 04:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by shaowebb

Pokemon Card game been mentioned yet as a possible idea? Likely the announcement is Gray, but making a full digital version of the card game now would be pretty cool given the online capabilities to play. Its a way better idea now than back on the Gameboy eras.

That would be awesome. I'd settle for an english sequel to the card game on gbc though.
With music like this, you can't go wrong.
pramath
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(02-25-2012, 04:46 AM)
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So is the announcement confirmed for this Sunday?
Gospel
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(02-25-2012, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

So is the announcement confirmed for this Sunday?

Yea. A little over 16 hours from now, we'll know if this is Grey or not.
Zebra
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(02-25-2012, 04:50 AM)
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So this show would be 5:30-6:30 central time tomorrow evening, right?
Andrex
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(02-25-2012, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zebra

So this show would be 5:30-6:30 central time tomorrow evening, right?

6:30 central.
Crazymoogle
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(02-25-2012, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Syph Medwes

That would be awesome. I'd settle for an english sequel to the card game on gbc though.
With music like this, you can't go wrong.

Still upset after playing the sequel at E3 way back in the day. The first game was awesome.
pramath
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(02-25-2012, 04:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gospel

Yea. A little over 16 hours from now, we'll know if this is Grey or not.

Time to start praying to the Nintendo Gods
clemenx
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(02-25-2012, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by shaowebb

Pokemon Card game been mentioned yet as a possible idea? Likely the announcement is Gray, but making a full digital version of the card game now would be pretty cool given the online capabilities to play. Its a way better idea now than back on the Gameboy eras.

This would be awesome. Even their TCG that they have in their website is pretty entertaining.
lordfroakie
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(02-25-2012, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Time to start praying to the Nintendo Gods

I'm praying for 3D models :(
TheOGB
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(02-25-2012, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Andrex

6:30 central.

Damn, I'm gonna be busy :/
Dragoon En Regalia
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(02-25-2012, 04:57 AM)
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And so the countdown begins.

TO BE CONTINUED...
Andrex
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(02-25-2012, 05:01 AM)
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"Masuda arrives with a megaton bomb that could destroy the whole Japan. Can Japanese Hitler stop him in time, or is it already too late?

FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON POKE SMASH ZZZZZZZ"
Shalashaska161
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(02-25-2012, 05:01 AM)
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I hope they stick to sprites. The 3D models are ok but I think sprites have so much more personality. Especially now that they are animating them a bit, it just looks so awesome.
Dragoon En Regalia
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(02-25-2012, 05:03 AM)
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I just watched the ending! MacArthur was the real villain. He locked Masuda up in the Imperial Palace while preparing Little Boy!

TO BE CONTINUED...?

We're having a bit too much fun here. All I know is I want the music in Grey to use upgraded samples!
GK86
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(02-25-2012, 05:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Time to start praying to the Nintendo Gods

Who must we sacrifice!?
pramath
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(02-25-2012, 05:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by vectorman06

I'm praying for 3D models :(

I'd be okay with high res 2D sprites too, to be honest

Originally Posted by GK86

Who must we sacrifice!?

Any of the non believers!
JazzmanZ
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(02-25-2012, 05:21 AM)
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So uh..what exactly are you guys expecting?

Because as far as I'm aware the way the tv show works is they'll either reveal a Silhouette of the new thing which is most likely Kyurems alt. forme, or they'll announce a game but probably nothing but that until then.
pramath
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(02-25-2012, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by JazzmanZ

So uh..what exactly are you guys expecting?

Because as far as I'm aware the way the tv show works is they'll either reveal a Silhouette of the new thing which is most likely Kyurems alt. forme, or they'll announce a game but probably nothing but that until then.

Confirmation of a 3DS exclusive mainline Pokemon game is all I want.
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(02-25-2012, 05:25 AM)
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If it is Grey I really don't want just upgraded visuals and other small stuff. I want a big addition to the game to extend the gameplay. Let me visit another region Gold/Silver style.

If it's a new pokemon game, then bringgggg it.
frostbyte
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(02-25-2012, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Confirmation of a 3DS exclusive mainline Pokemon game is all I want.

Oh by the POKEgods, that's all I need. Grey or R/S/E remake doesn't matter. Just no Mystery Dungeon/Ranger/crappy spinoff and I'll be a happy camper.
Perfect Cha0s
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(02-25-2012, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Confirmation of a 3DS exclusive mainline Pokemon game is all I want.

Nope. Never gonna happen.
botty
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(02-25-2012, 05:29 AM)
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3D models would be a disaster. The 3D battles have never lived up to the charm of the sprite battles, and it might slow down the face paced battles that were finally achieved with B/W.
TreIII
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(02-25-2012, 05:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by shaowebb

Pokemon Card game been mentioned yet as a possible idea? Likely the announcement is Gray, but making a full digital version of the card game now would be pretty cool given the online capabilities to play. Its a way better idea now than back on the Gameboy eras.

Hey, I'd be down. Next to Mario Tennis GBC, the GBC version of the Pokemon TCG was one of the main things glued into my unit for weeks on end. They could perhaps even add a bit of that AR razzle-dazzle, if they really wanted to.
ZenaxPure
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(02-25-2012, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by botty

3D models would be a disaster. The 3D battles have never lived up to the charm of the sprite battles, and it might slow down the face paced battles that were finally achieved with B/W.

Honestly I think the battles in PBR on the Wii were fast, but my main concern with 3D models is the fear of potentially cutting tons of side content out of the game for cartridge space since I assume having everything in 3D would take more of it up. But, I dunno I am not a programmer.
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(02-25-2012, 05:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZenaxPure

Honestly I think the battles in PBR on the Wii were fast, but my main concern with 3D models is the fear of potentially cutting tons of side content out of the game for cartridge space since I assume having everything in 3D would take more of it up. But, I dunno I am not a programmer.

Textures are what would take up the extra spce. Most pokemon are simple, solid colors so that wouldnt' really be an issue. Besides, Pokemon's content has never suffered from technical limitations in that way, it's not something you'd have to worry about.
Lindsay
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(02-25-2012, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by GK86

Who must we sacrifice!?

Hoenn haters!

Originally Posted by udivision

Textures are what would take up the extra spce. Most pokemon are simple, solid colors so that wouldnt' really be an issue.

Thats kinda why they always look so bland in polygon form.
LumpOfCole
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(02-25-2012, 06:04 AM)
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Pokemon with a StreetPass battle supplement feature that is like Super Street Fighter IV's (but more robust) would be really fun to see.

Though I would much rather prefer my iPhone had StreetPass. And Pokemon. :( Maybe one day.
Andrex
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(02-25-2012, 06:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by GK86

Who must we sacrifice!?

EmperorMattevs!
udivision
(02-25-2012, 06:07 AM)
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You can do more with polygons though. I enjoy seeing the sense of scale you only get when playing Stadium/Battle Revolution and you see just how tiny a Pidgey is compared to a Lugia and stuff like that.
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(02-25-2012, 06:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by udivision

You can do more with polygons though. I enjoy seeing the sense of scale you only get when playing Stadium/Battle Revolution and you see just how tiny a Pidgey is compared to a Lugia and stuff like that.

That's a strong example of what polygons get you, but I still think a lot of the detail and personality would be lost in transition. My biggest worry though, when it comes to the moment gameplay, is that polygonal representations might slow things down. Black/White run super fast, and losing that would be a real drag.
Sagitario
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(02-25-2012, 06:33 AM)
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I would kill for a cel-shaded Pokémon game.
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(02-25-2012, 06:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oblivionmancer

That's a strong example of what polygons get you, but I still think a lot of the detail and personality would be lost in transition. My biggest worry though, when it comes to the moment gameplay, is that polygonal representations might slow things down. Black/White run super fast, and losing that would be a real drag.

And that personality can be gained through better animations that a polygon system lends itself too. I never found the Pokemon of Pokemon stadim lacking in "personality." Probalby one of my favorite animations of stadium is Machamps death: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrWwzL4ahAM . He could benefit from a Pokedex 3D quality model.
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(02-25-2012, 07:00 AM)
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Much of the reason why I like Game Freak is because, while most of their games sell millions of copies, their games have a "made by a small company" charm. Various reasons why I think that, from the stylistic choices in their games (simple pixel art style) to the gameplay choices (the grid-based layout in Pokemon).

Seeing this amazing, cel-shaded 3D game with top tier graphics would kind of ruin that for me. I'd rather not see Game Freak's style die than to see Pokemon "evolve" in this way.
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(02-25-2012, 07:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Why would you do that?

Much of the reason why I like Game Freak is because, while most of their games sell millions of copies, their games have a "made by a small company" charm. Various reasons why I think that, from the stylistic choices in their games (simple pixel art style) to the gameplay choices (the grid-based layout in Pokemon).

Seeing this amazing, cel-shaded 3D game with top tier graphics would kind of ruin that for me. I'd rather not see Game Freak's style die than to see Pokemon "evolve" in this way.

While I agree, it's still possible to invoke a quaint art style in the overworld if they went cel shaded (heck, cel shading is probably the best way to preserve it in 3D.) Full analog control would instantly bring in a lot of lapsed fans, I feel, and it's something I'd like to see happen too. The game would instantly become a lot more free and open, which suits the ideals of the series, I feel. I'm imagining a Pokemon that takes cues from the Zelda DS titles, with the overhead view. There's no reason that couldn't work for even the Gen 4 games, considering how those are full 3D in the overworld anyways.

I'm split on sprites vs. models in battle, though. Right now I'm siding with sprites, but models would make better use of the 3DS. Even still, there's no options for preserving the quaintness in battles if they switch to models (as opposed to the overworld.) With the overworld, Game Freak has basically 3D-ified everything already except the characters.
sorijealut
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(02-25-2012, 07:10 AM)
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Thanks for the info on date/time guys.

Interesting discussion here. When we talk about Cel-shading, where is the emphasis? On the pastel-like soft glow with rounded outlines, or
defined, black, crisp outlines with vibrant colors? Perhaps both? Sometimes I get confused.
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Femmeworth
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(02-25-2012, 07:17 AM)
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I think they should stick with sprites until the 3DS' successor. I don't think the 3DS is strong enough to do models justice, particularly because of 2v2 and 3v3 battles.
Anth0ny
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(02-25-2012, 07:20 AM)
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A new TCG game with online play would be incredible, but I don't see it happening. As far as I know, the TCG is nowhere near as popular as it was during the Wizard days.
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(02-25-2012, 07:21 AM)
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I'm just curious. People seem to want a whole new engine with spiffy 3D graphics for a potential Pokemon Grey version but how would you reconcile that with Black and White? Can 3DS and DS games even trade with each other? Why wouldn't you save a new engine for Gen 6?
Firestorm
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(02-25-2012, 07:46 AM)
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calling new stadium-type game
udivision
(02-25-2012, 07:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

A new TCG game with online play would be incredible, but I don't see it happening. As far as I know, the TCG is nowhere near as popular as it was during the Wizard days.

Isn't that already in the works? For PC no less.
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(02-25-2012, 08:00 AM)
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next gen I'v already play B&W unless they alot of changers but then i think they save them for a new gen of pokemon
lordfroakie
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(02-25-2012, 08:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth

I think they should stick with sprites until the 3DS' successor. I don't think the 3DS is strong enough to do models justice, particularly because of 2v2 and 3v3 battles.

Mush
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(02-25-2012, 08:22 AM)
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I don't believe I've chimed in with this, so here goes:

GENERATION THREE REMAKES MOTHERFUCKERS
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(02-25-2012, 08:22 AM)
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Masuda will appear on Pokemon Smash to announce the movie event giveaway for Keldeo...
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(02-25-2012, 08:25 AM)
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I hope they stick with sprites for as long as possible because it's just more aesthetically pleasing to me. I love the Pokemon looking like their concept art. With polygons and what have you the designs just look off, especially in comparison. Whatever extra manpower and technical ability they have to make slightly better looking 3D models, I'd rather they'd put into something like hand drawn animated Pokemon, or at least sprites with more fluid animation and move variety.
Crewnh
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(02-25-2012, 08:25 AM)
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Hoenn was pretty great. People knock it a lot for all the surfing you had to do but it was kind of charming going on an ocean adventure in last third of the game, diving beneath the waters for hidden treasures and Pokemon.

Would be nice to go back there.
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botty
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(02-25-2012, 08:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by PS_GUY

Masuda will appear on Pokemon Smash to announce the movie event giveaway for Keldeo...

Why would Masuda announce the details of the Keldeo giveaway now, when Corocoro is scheduled to reveal Keldeo (officially) and possibly detail the giveaway next month?
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(02-25-2012, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lindsay

Nooo way! It at best has the power of a PSP or Gamecube.

Spoken like someone who truly doesn't have the slightest clue about what he's talking about. The gap between the GCN and the PSP is a good half generation's worth, how can the 3DS be at best be equivalent to one or the other.

Anyway, the 3DS absolutely slaughters the PSP, there is no contest. As for "at best GCN", well sorta, I guess. It's weaker in some areas more powerful in other but is also undoubtedly more capable, so it's hard to really grade the 2 systems against each other.
Uchip
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(02-25-2012, 08:42 AM)
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They must be running out of colours by now
Mr Swine
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(02-25-2012, 11:23 AM)
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How many hours is it left for the announcement?

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