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Cow Mengde
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(02-20-2012, 02:44 PM)
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chickdigger802
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(02-20-2012, 02:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wichu

I don't see why attack and 'I got hit!' animations should take any longer for 3D models than for sprites. As long as they don't mess it up like Genius Sonority did.

idk. compare pokemon stadium with the portable games. I would love devil may cry speed in terms of animation... but gamefreak? lol.
cw_sasuke
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(02-20-2012, 02:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

That looks all fine and dandy... until you realize battles take longer than diamond/pearl.

Give me higher res sprites with attack animations and 'I got hit!' animations, and I'll be happy.

There should still an option to disable animations.
Wichu
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(02-20-2012, 02:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

idk. compare pokemon stadium with the portable games. I would love devil may cry speed in terms of animation... but gamefreak? lol.

Seeing as they've been progressively increasing the battle speed since D/P's abomination, I don't think they'll slow it down again (at least, not to D/P levels).
Ultima_5
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(02-20-2012, 02:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

That looks all fine and dandy... until you realize battles take longer than diamond/pearl.

Give me higher res sprites with attack animations and 'I got hit!' animations, and I'll be happy.

This. People aren't realizing how much slower of a game it'll end up being. Like dq8 compared to the ds lnes. Love me some sprite work
twisteddeeds
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(02-20-2012, 03:00 PM)
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Higher res sprites are probably more feasible in grey/gray but overall it all depends really on what way they made black/white and if they knew "whilst making b/w" that grey/gray would also see a version on the 3ds..

If they want to implement the pokedex 3d models.. I'd say it will more likely be the next game after gray/grey tbh..
Edag Plata
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(02-20-2012, 03:11 PM)
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It airs Sundays at 7:30am? No wonder Super Sentai always has disappointing ratings...it's going up against Pokemon directly. That's no way to win.
ffdgh
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(02-20-2012, 03:29 PM)
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if its gray/grey, i hope its for 3ds...

3d battles would be interesting.
Dragoon En Regalia
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(02-20-2012, 03:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wichu

Seeing as they've been progressively increasing the battle speed since D/P's abomination, I don't think they'll slow it down again (at least, not to D/P levels).

If they stick to hi-res 2d sprites with animations, they could solve both the jagged pixeley-ness of the zoom-in camera in-battle, and they could keep either the same battle speed as in B/W or improve that, even. Plus, I don't think they have enough 3D staff to go all out on 3D modeling for all of the Pokemon anyhow.
Wiseblade
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(02-20-2012, 03:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia

If they stick to hi-res 2d sprites with animations, they could solve both the jagged pixeley-ness of the zoom-in camera in-battle, and they could keep either the same battle speed as in B/W or improve that, even. Plus, I don't think they have enough 3D staff to go all out on 3D modeling for all of the Pokemon anyhow.

That what Creatures Inc/Pokédex 3D are for.
Boerseun
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(02-20-2012, 04:00 PM)
I want a Wii U sequel to Colosseum and XD. The art style employed in these games are just gorgeous. And though they still play like Pokémon on handheld, there tends to be a stronger focus on story, with fewer Pokémon but also a more compact experience, faster progression, and a shorter playtime. I consider these positive features, with the playtime being especially important, as many people simply can't find the time to invest in the handheld games. I'm still working on Black and there's no way I'm going to be done with it by the time the next one comes out. I still like Pokémon though, and always have, and don't want to be left out of the Pokémon universe, which I've always found very pleasant, charming and relaxing.
Suairyu
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(02-20-2012, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

What, precisely?

Andrex and I get to be Prince Reagents of PokéGAF if Grey is a DS game.
Mr Swine
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(02-20-2012, 04:02 PM)
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Me: "Pleeeeaaseeeee can it come to the 3DS?"

Iwata: [laughs], "No, it's for the DS"

Me: ):

I really do hope it's for the 3DS!
Zeer0id
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(02-20-2012, 04:06 PM)
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The last time he teased something would be announced on this show, it was utterly lame. I'm not getting my hopes up again. OK, maybe just a little.
Suairyu
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(02-20-2012, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr Swine

Me: "Pleeeeaaseeeee can it come to the 3DS?"

Iwata: [laughs], "No, it's for the DS"

Me: ):

I really do hope it's for the 3DS!

There's no reason other than selfish ones to want it to be a 3DS game.
MigueelDnd
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(02-20-2012, 04:06 PM)
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I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but there is no mention of a "game announcement" in the preview of next week's episode. We'll have to trust Junichi Masuda in this one!

As for the game, maybe it could be something for WiiU launch? That would certainly give WiiU some strength, but the only problem I see with that it's the timing. I'd expect something as that to be announced at E3, but it's still a possibility.

Another(obvious) option would be Pokémon Gray. We all know this one is most likely coming sometime, and if it uses the Pokédex 3D models, it would be amazing and hype would go through the roof.

I just hope it's something for 3DS or WiiU, and that we have an actual game announcement next weekend.
Majine
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(02-20-2012, 04:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

There's no reason other than selfish ones to want it to be a 3DS game.

Better graphoX?
udivision
(02-20-2012, 04:10 PM)
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Oh wait, this is Nobunga isn't it.
Or are we going to fall for the "It's a new game!" thing only to realize it's been revealed before like Pokepark 2 and the time before it.
Suairyu
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(02-20-2012, 04:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Majine

Better graphoX?

It's a gen 5 game. A director's cut of Black and White. Better graffux aren't the point. That's for whatever new twin set of games come next for gen 6.
Inferno313
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(02-20-2012, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

There's no reason other than selfish ones to want it to be a 3DS game.

Having Pokemon, even a 3rd version, on 3DS will be a system seller.
Dr.Palutena
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(02-20-2012, 04:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr Swine

Me: "Pleeeeaaseeeee can it come to the 3DS?"

Iwata: [laughs], "No, it's for the DS"

Me: ):

I really do hope it's for the 3DS!

If you think nintendo wants this on ds at what would be 1.5 years after its death and a good 2 years after at its NA release when it could be selling 3ds systems then ...
Though gamefreak is weird as heck at times.
Suairyu
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(02-20-2012, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inferno313

Having Pokemon, even a 3rd version, on 3DS will be a system seller.

3DS is doing just fine without it. Best to wait for gen 6 to really give them hardware sales a boost.

And calling DS "dead" is inaccurate.
Man God
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(02-20-2012, 04:17 PM)
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I originally assumed it would be DS as well, but not if it is a fall 2012 release or later. It's a 3DS game now.
Dr.Palutena
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(02-20-2012, 04:20 PM)
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"dead" or not it's certainly not getting any livelier but I digress all these arguments have been used over and over. All we can do is wait and see.
Vanille
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(02-20-2012, 04:22 PM)
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DS or bust.

I don't want to buy a Japanese 3DS for this shit.
survivor
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(02-20-2012, 04:23 PM)
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Is there anything about this on CoroCoro? Generally they have preview hints as well if a new game is supposed to be out

I don't mind if it's DS or 3DS. I will have to pay more for the latter since I don't have a 3DS so I hope it will be a different type of game than the rest.
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plainr_
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(02-20-2012, 04:26 PM)
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Wait wait wait...

...people want this to be a DS game?!

Hell no to that.
Wiseblade
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(02-20-2012, 04:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

3DS is doing just fine without it. Best to wait for gen 6 to really give them hardware sales a boost.

And calling DS "dead" is inaccurate.

Fine, "succession". Either way, Nintendo definitely don't want the newest iteration of one of the biggest franchises in the world milling around on old hardware when they have something shiny and new to promote.
cw_sasuke
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(02-20-2012, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

3DS is doing just fine without it. Best to wait for gen 6 to really give them hardware sales a boost.

And calling DS "dead" is inaccurate.

This will be a first quarter of 13 release in the west - you really think it will make sense to be a DS release a this point ? Not to mention all the piracy on DS. They should go 3DD exclusive - gotta get that DLC money.
botty
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(02-20-2012, 04:45 PM)
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I hope it's the gen3 remakes with enhances sprites, and a tacked on region (sevii islands style).
Cookie18
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(02-20-2012, 04:46 PM)
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So long as it's a proper game and not another spin off game this will be fantastic. Could we possibly get the added bonus of it being a 3DS game? Please make it so Gamefreak!
Dragoon En Regalia
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(02-20-2012, 04:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wiseblade

That what Creatures Inc/Pokédex 3D are for.

And their 3D team is still big enough to model all of the Pokemon + animations + fine-tuning for excessive polygon counts to prevent uncouth slowdown?

Not saying it can't happen, but I'm skeptical nonetheless. GF and their associates aren't known for massive leaps in visual quality, unless we're going to count G/S to R/S, and even the latter didn't look that much better.
Mr Swine
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Originally Posted by botty

I hope it's the gen3 remakes with enhances sprites, and a tacked on region (sevii islands style).

Would be nice if they could include a remake of Pokemon Stadium 1/2 :o
Gravijah
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(02-20-2012, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr Swine

Would be nice if they could include a remake of Pokemon Stadium 1/2 :o

huh? why? why not just make a new one?
botty
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(02-20-2012, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cookie18

So long as it's a proper game and not another spin off game this will be fantastic. Could we possibly get the added bonus of it being a 3DS game? Please make it so Gamefreak!

Junichi Masuda wouldn't announce a spin-off game.
Boney
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(02-20-2012, 04:52 PM)
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Here we go again

wonder what cross promotion we'll have now...

Pokemon x Zone of Enders
Banana Kid
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(02-20-2012, 04:52 PM)
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Goddammit, am I gonna have to buy a 3DS?

I've always known I would need one for whatever Pokemon thing they do with it.
GK86
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(02-20-2012, 04:54 PM)
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I will echo what others have said, grey for 3ds please. I guess I will hold up on picking up b/w.
Man God
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(02-20-2012, 04:54 PM)
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I just played through Emerald recently and Gen Threemakes would be greatly appreciated. The level up moves on your average Hoenndex pokemon were terrible back then and awesome now, and the new leveling system will handle the problem of grinding for the E4.

Also if Secret Bases make it back and still give EVs and Exp then I can finally relive my dream of making the ultimate Pokeraising machine.
Lord_Byron28
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(02-20-2012, 04:55 PM)
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Why isn't a dual release 3DS/DS a possibility?
Wiseblade
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(02-20-2012, 04:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia

And their 3D team is still big enough to model all of the Pokemon + animations + fine-tuning for excessive polygon counts to prevent uncouth slowdown?

Not saying it can't happen, but I'm skeptical nonetheless. GF and their associates aren't known for massive leaps in visual quality, unless we're going to count G/S to R/S, and even the latter didn't look that much better.

They've already made the models and given then as much animation as the ones in Pokémon battle Revolution. Assuming the in battle backgrounds will be sparse at best (Lets not fool ourselves, now) There should be no problem using them as they are now or giving them the changes they may need to be suitable for a mainline title.
Gravijah
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(02-20-2012, 04:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord_Byron28

Why isn't a dual release 3DS/DS a possibility?

what would be the point? if they're making it for the 3ds, part of the reason is moving the fanbase over from the ds.
Exterminieren
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(02-20-2012, 04:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord_Byron28

Why isn't a dual release 3DS/DS a possibility?

I'd say this is probably the most likely scenario. Two separate SKUs, a la Mystery Dungeon with GBA and DS.

No way in hell is this DS exclusive, though. DS is already dead in Japan, and is only going to get deader.
J@hranimo
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(02-20-2012, 04:59 PM)
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Ok this has to be Pokemon Gray/Grey. There are 2 side games that are announced and coming out and there hasn't been any talk for the 3rd game. It's been a year and a half since the japanese release of Black/White. It only seems right.

Also I don't want it to be for 3DS exclusively. It would be cool, but I think it would be more suitable for Gen 6 games and the eventual Ruby/Sapphire remakes.
Bankoiia
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(02-20-2012, 05:02 PM)
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Pokemon Grey for the 3DS or straight to Gen 6... Hmm.
Banana Kid
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(02-20-2012, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gravijah

what would be the point? if they're making it for the 3ds, part of the reason is moving the fanbase over from the ds.

The point would be to sell the game to the massive DS audience instead of limiting it to the relatively small 3DS install base.
Gravijah
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(02-20-2012, 05:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Banana Kid

The point would be to sell the game to the massive DS audience instead of limiting it to the relatively small 3DS install base.

they've got to bite the bullet at somepoint. besides, games like mario kart, monster hunter and 3dland are doing quite fine on the 3ds.
Boney
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(02-20-2012, 05:10 PM)
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So does the DS argument consist on "People don't buy consoles for Pokemon"

Cause it sounds way smart
Man God
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(02-20-2012, 05:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gravijah

they've got to bite the bullet at somepoint. besides, games like mario kart, monster hunter and 3dland are doing quite fine on the 3ds.

Well put.

If this was a September/October 2011 release it could have been on the DS, but now?

Pokémon games are one of the few bonafide system sellers. People will buy the 3DS for this one game. It's a no brainer at this point.
seady
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(02-20-2012, 05:16 PM)
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Pokemon Grey for the 3DS. Or for the DS but enhanced when play on 3DS.

The isometric view is perfect for the 3DS.

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