[S0N0S]

Make it so!

Someone find out how much Goldblum charges per hour! I think this thing has enough momentum to fund a Special Podblast Gone Goldblumblast episode, ft. Scoops and that Nick guy.

[Sunflower]

And? People are pledging money ostensibly because they WANT the project funded. Why would they be upset that the project hit its goal? That's insane.

So you're saying even if a project doesn't meet its goal, it should continue on because of the people who donated to it? I think we're having some sort of miscommunication here, I just can't pinpoint it.

[eznark]

Soon you are going to be paying $100 to get a download code for the new COD and a personal fuck you note from Bobby Kotick.

Only if you choose to.

So you're saying even if a project doesn't meet its goal, it should continue on because of the people who donated to it? I think we're having some sort of miscommunication here, I just can't pinpoint it.

If I pledge money to a project, I want it to get funded and I don't particularly how it happens. What you described was a project meeting its goal, just with the creator funding a portion of it. I'm perfectly fine with it.

[R1CHO]

Gonna miss the sirens.

[Jexhius]

I don't think you'll be F5'ing this in March, already at $22k+

It'll all be over by Christmas.

[Corky]

I've never actually heard of Idle Thumbs until this. I donated $10 because I like the idea. Any suggestions as to an episode in particular I should start with? Also, if any of the Idle Thumbs guys are reading this: Please make sure that your book selections have a Kindle/Nook version so we can quickly buy it and keep up. :)

The rule of thumb ( ugh kill me ) is to start with the first and and just go from there. Considering the subject at hand ( games ) you'd think listening to people talking about "old" games wouldn't be entertaining... but do yourself a favor and start with the first episode.

[renitou]

Soon you are going to be paying $100 to get a download code for the new COD and a personal fuck you note from Bobby Kotick.

They can only take what you're willing to give. The slope isn't anywhere near as slippery as you seem to think.

[LCfiner]

Are there Kickstarter horror stories that I'm not aware of? I'm trying to understand why anyone would oppose this. I mean, it gives people who want something the opportunity to pay for it and have it when it might not otherwise exist. What's the downside?

I have heard of one. it was a relatively fancy shmancy aluminum bumper style case for the iphone 4.

well, surprise, surprise. if you cover up an antenna entirely in aluminum, signal strength goes way down and a lot of people got this thing and were unhappy with a bumper that made their phone operate much worse than before.

I never followed the whole story so i don’t know how the designers talked about the risk of signal loss before hand or what.

But it’s the only semi high profile negative kick-starter reaction I have heard of.

[rexor0717]

Seems like it will hit its goal by the end of this hour.

[StevePharma]

You guys deserve it.

[Corky]

Pledged. You guys deserve it. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Y0r7G.gif[/IMG

So is this the second age of extreme?

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Well for me it eventually boils down to bullshit like this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...n-shows-new-ep Big name, very established band wanting money for things like shows that are already sold out and does the world really need two more Ramones cover 7"'s (which pretty much any indie label would have soiled their pants for to release anyway). There are thousands of examples like this in the music business. Soon you are going to be paying $100 to get a download code for the new COD and a personal fuck you note from Bobby Kotick.

So don't support the ones you think are bullshit.

I also don't really see the connection between a band asking for $5000 and paying $100 for COD.

I get that people are highly wary of freeloaders and system-abusers, some more than others, but in the end, people who want the things being offered will pay and people who don't really shouldn't worry about it, should they?

Are you imagining a future in which the only way to get something you want is through Kickstarter or a similar process? If so, who's to say the pricing models will be any more abusive to the consumer than they are now?

[Jtwo]

This is SOOOOO goddamn crazy holy shit.

[Chris Remo]

There are legal reasons (not under Kickstarter's control) that we can't contribute to our own project. If Amazon Payments matches our names or credit cards to a contribution, we get zero dollars. (Seriously.)

[outunderthestars]

For me personally, cutting out cable TV a few years back was the psychological hurdle I needed. Now I would much rather pay for the entertainment I actually enjoy and consume directly than spend close to $100 monthly on a service I barely use, in order to subsidize channels I never watch. Just so happens the entertainment I enjoy is mostly served online. Even with a few donations and subscriptions here and there, it's less money than monthly cable expenses for me and more meaningful to the content creators. I'm a big fan of this new business model, for sure.

I had never thought of it that way, but I am in almost the exact same position.

i back Giant Bomb, Double Fine, and several board game companies that I love. :)

I highly suggest looking at Kickstarter for other forms of entertainment.

This documentary about the abandoned places of Richmond is only $200 short of being funded, and looks damn awesome.

Here is a field guide to plants that are found growing through NYC sidewalks that just need $240 more to be completed

There are tons of really cool ideas and projects out there on KS that are well worth looking into. I've backed 31 projects now! :D

[eudaemonic]

I was going to put up $150 initially, but looking at the rewards, I'm gonna chip in $200. You guy deserve it. I wish I could afford to put up more, though :(.

The "WORLD IS YOURS" bundle is a really awesome deal. I went with it myself.

Also, if any of the Idle Thumbs guys are reading this: Please make sure that your book selections have a Kindle/Nook version so we can quickly buy it and keep up. :)

+1

[sixghost]

There are legal reasons (not under Kickstarter's control) that we can't contribute to our own project. If Amazon Payments matches our names or credit cards to a contribution, we get zero dollars. (Seriously.)

I don't know if it was actually him, but one of the names in the comment section was Steve Gaynor. Hopefully that doesn't cause any trouble.

[Tawney Bomb]

Also, if any of the Idle Thumbs guys are reading this: Please make sure that your book selections have a Kindle/Nook version so we can quickly buy it and keep up. :)

THIS! I do hope that the guys keep this in mind.

I don't know if it was actually him, but one of the names in the comment section was Steve Gaynor. Hopefully that doesn't cause any trouble.

I don't think this should matter, because only Chris, Jake and Sean were mentioned in the Kickstarter description.

[DaBuddaDa]

Crazy the average pledge is $68.

[Nonentity]

I pitched in my ten bucks. Will probably bump it up once funds are secure.

I think that as folks who grew up with games get older, they should put their money where their mouth is and let loose a bit on the sense of entitlement.

I will happily financially support proper-ass entertaining endeavors.

[jonac13]

I don't know if it was actually him, but one of the names in the comment section was Steve Gaynor. Hopefully that doesn't cause any trouble.

Pretty sure it is allowed as Steve isn't a founding member of this particular iteration of the podcast/video game thing. On a similar note, I also saw "Bronstring" Marek Bronstring back the project and he was on the UK podcast.

[Empty]

omfg it's definitely back, yay etc

pitched in $13. can't throw around a ton of money but i couldn't not give a bit as thanks for all the enjoyment they've given me already. hope the book choices are as good as the ones in gfw radio book chat.

also amazed it's at 23k already, i didn't know the thumbs were that popular.

[hardcastlemccormick]

I've never actually heard of Idle Thumbs until this. I donated $10 because I like the idea. Any suggestions as to an episode in particular I should start with? Also, if any of the Idle Thumbs guys are reading this: Please make sure that your book selections have a Kindle/Nook version so we can quickly buy it and keep up. :)

Start from the first. The show's zany humor needs context.

Also, 25k what.

[eznark]

There are legal reasons (not under Kickstarter's control) that we can't contribute to our own project. If Amazon Payments matches our names or credit cards to a contribution, we get zero dollars. (Seriously.)

Kickstarter charges 5% and Amazon takes another 3% correct?

[LCfiner]

Crazy the average pledge is $68.

awesome.

note that the average is still a healthy 58 if you remove the four 1000 dollar pledges.

and 120 people who pledged 50. I guess a lot of us wanted that rad shirt :)

[hey_it's_that_dog]

So you're saying even if a project doesn't meet its goal, it should continue on because of the people who donated to it? I think we're having some sort of miscommunication here, I just can't pinpoint it.

It sounds like you're equating a project not meeting its goal with a project not being good or worth funding or something. The goals are semi-arbitrary numbers. The people who pledge presumably want it to happen no matter what. They aren't affected by where the rest of the money comes from and how much is donated in total as long as the goal is met and the project happens.

So donating the last $1000 to be able to proceed with your own Kickstarter project isn't violating anyone's interests, even if it is technically against the rules.

I have heard of one. it was a relatively fancy shmancy aluminum bumper style case for the iphone 4. well, surprise, surprise. if you cover up an antenna entirely in aluminum, signal strength goes way down and a lot of people got this thing and were unhappy with a bumper that made their phone operate much worse than before. I never followed the whole story so i don’t know how the designers talked about the risk of signal loss before hand or what. But it’s the only semi high profile negative kick-starter reaction I have heard of.

So that's a case of a shitty product, right? That's not illustrative of a flaw inherent in the Kickstarter system (is it?). I was looking for stories of abuse, where people got swindled, or some other failure in accountability. Something that warrants the distrust of the general economic model being used.

[sixghost]

Was just listening to the episode with the EA shareholder call was discussed.

I request an Idle Thumbs llc. shareholder call.

[Corky]

Was just listening to the episode with the EA shareholder call was discussed. I request an Idle Thumbs llc. shareholder call.

Will there be any rewards?

[Gomu Gomu]

I've never actually heard of Idle Thumbs until this. I donated $10 because I like the idea. Any suggestions as to an episode in particular I should start with?

Start with the first one is the default answer. If, for whatever reason, you don't have the time, you can check out This Year's compilation I linked to earlier: http://thisyearcollection.blogspot.c...le-thumbs.html
It's six hours of awesome content. However, there are still a TON of other awesome moments not included.

[eznark]

Was just listening to the episode with the EA shareholder call was discussed. I request an Idle Thumbs llc. shareholder call.

Oh man, they should do a Green Bay Packers style stock certificate.

[DaBuddaDa]

Kickstarter charges 5% and Amazon takes another 3% correct?

It's also considered fully taxable income unless it goes to a 501c3, so deduct another varying 10-20% from the total.

[causan]

Dammit, I want one of those t shirts but I'm broke as hell this week. Anyone know if you are charged at the time of pledge or is it on March 21?

[LOCK]

I will pledge asap.

[kadotsu]

The wizards set the bony meadows afire, turned rock to hot scoops, turned wood to charcoal, transmitted water to steam, made sand and silica into green glass which lay like shattered mirrors reflecting the invasion, all about. The wizards came like drums, beating in the night. The wizards came like puffins, swarming and settling in blooms of rosy smoke.
And from the wizards ran space assholes with hammers in their hands to beat the strange world into a shape that was familiar to the eye, to bludgeon away all the strangeness, their mouths fringed with nails so they resembled steel-toothed big dogs, spitting them into their swift hands as they hammered up frame cottages and scuttled over roofs with shingles to blot out grenades running down hills, and fit green shades to pull against the night.
And when the carpenters had hurried on, the women came in with flowerpots and chintz and pans and set up a kitchen clamor to cover the silence that the Moon made waiting outside the door and the shaded window.
In six months a new studio had been laid down to blast casts into our faces, filled with sizzling neon tubes and yellow electric bulbs. In all, some ninety thousand people came to the Moon and more, on Earth, were packing their horsebags....


I'm so sorry, Mr Bradbury

[outunderthestars]

Start with the first one is the default answer. If, for whatever reason, you don't have the time, you can check out This Year's compilation I linked to earlier: http://thisyearcollection.blogspot.c...le-thumbs.html It's six hours of awesome content. However, there are still a TON of other awesome moments not included.

Thanks! I appreciate it! :D

So when do we start the GAF Kickstarter?


edit: I am snowed in today, so I might as well power through all six hours of this compilation today!

[sixghost]

Dammit, I want one of those t shirts but I'm broke as hell this week. Anyone know if you are charged at the time of pledge or is it on March 21?

You are only charged if the goal is met, at the end of the contribution period.

It's best not to pledge anything until you're sure you can afford it though.

[Salacious Crumb]

Just to be clear, as an international backer do I enter $60 manually on the pledge page or do I just pledge the $50 and you charge $10 shipping separately?

[Corky]

Dammit, I want one of those t shirts but I'm broke as hell this week. Anyone know if you are charged at the time of pledge or is it on March 21?

You won't be charged until it's over I believe.

[eznark]

It's also considered fully taxable income unless it goes to a 501c3, so deduct another varying 10-20% from the total.

Of course, but I assume Amazon takes care of that portion since they are doing the actual processing.

[Median]

Oh god, backing this so hard. As someone whose last name is Lord, I'm very excited to be part of the House of Lords. Welcome back, Thumbs!

[NullPointer]

Horse bags of cash!

[evlcookie]

Just to be clear, as an international backer do I enter $60 manually on the pledge page or do I just pledge the $50 and you charge $10 shipping separately?

Crumb you need to do it as 60. We all had to change our pledges from 100 to 110 after double fine updated the shipping info.

[LCfiner]

Just to be clear, as an international backer do I enter $60 manually on the pledge page or do I just pledge the $50 and you charge $10 shipping separately?

You have to enter the 60 manually. This plus the option you have chosen for rewards will ensure you get the right thing shipped out.

[StevePharma]

F. Nick Breckon better pledge as well.

Horse bags of cash!

Google fails:

[Ghost Dad the Whip]

So happy for the Thumbs. This is a great day.

[Suairyu]

Never listened to these guys. Anyone care to link to what they consider the most convincing argument for giving them funding that they've ever produced?

[hardcastlemccormick]

The success email subject even sounds Thumb-style

Thanks for becoming a backer of Idle Thumbs Video Game Podcast by Idle Thumbs.

Add in a few more Idle Thumbs and video games in there and it's basically an opener for Jake.

Never listened to these guys. Anyone care to link to what they consider the most convincing argument for giving them funding that they've ever produced?

The most remarkable thing to me is that while the highs are very good, the entire show is consistently excellent. That is why I am putting my money behind this thing: they casted 50 pods and they were all above most gaming podcasts.

[eznark]

What are these guys doing now? Job-wise?

[Tawney Bomb]

3K to go! This is a glorious day! Glad I had the day off to donate and enjoy this hype!

[Hot Coldman]

What are these guys doing now? Job-wise?

Chris is homeless and been burned to death, Jake and Sean are making The Walking Dead at Telltale, and Steve is making Bioshock 3 Field of Dreams.