Mitama
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(03-15-2012, 10:04 PM)

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Originally Posted by HK-47: View Post
Generally in one I'd go heavy on magic followed by agi and vit after and id have a certain amount of str so I could use things like the dances. Are there any stat thresholds I should try to get to on a heavy caster?
Dual Shadow requires 15 AG, Debilitate 14 AG, Phys Repel 12 VI, Anti-Almighty 19 VI. That's about it for the non-MA skills.

Originally Posted by Torraz: View Post
Whoa, I've been taking Jungo as my physical attacker but it seems I should switch to hinako then...
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Yeah, she's great for taking down entire teams. I still prefer my MC with high ST and VI for raw damage output against a single boss (Deathbound), but Multi-Strike comes very, very close.
Mitama
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(03-15-2012, 10:06 PM)

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#852

Originally Posted by Earthstrike: View Post
Haha, didn't have the demons to do it and still get that insanely high MA stat I wanted.
Really? Remember that you can always fuse away a demon you currently have that has a lot of extra MA into one of Titania's fusion ingredients. Phs Repel will really benefit you in the long run; you'll be invincible from everything but Almighty.
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#853

Originally Posted by Mitama: View Post
Dual Shadow requires 15 AG, Debilitate 14 AG, Phys Repel 12 VI, Anti-Almighty 19 VI. That's about it for the non-MA skills.



Yeah, she's great for taking down entire teams. I still prefer my MC with high ST and VI for raw damage output against a single boss (Deathbound), but Multi-Strike comes very, very close.
Doesn't a PHYS MC get troublesome due to only having 1 pierce to assign to your team members?
Mitama
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(03-15-2012, 10:15 PM)

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#854

Well, I'm using a physical based MC with Deathbound (for bosses) and Hassohappa (for quickly wiping entire teams), Pierce/Phys Amp/Phys Repel and he's my only physical attacker.

Aside from the MC, I'm using Fumi with Drain, Holy Dance and Mediarahan; Otome with Megidolaon and two random dances and Io with some a random dance, Prayer and Samarecarm.

That's also why I really prefer a physical based MC: there's much more magic to go around when he doesn't use those skills.

There's also Pierce+, mind you, which gives you Pierce on the entire party. Saves a slot on your team leader and on the two demons!
HK-47
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(03-15-2012, 10:38 PM)

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#855

And if I go phys hitter MC, what levels of agi and magic do I need for important skills?
Mitama
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#856

Same as the above, with the addition of Anti-Most (12 MA) and Anti-All (18 MA). You can either choose to specialize in ST/VI or ST/AG (with a precedence of ST over AG). Your AG stat determines the number of hits with Multi-Hit and Multi-Strike while your VI (and current HP) determines the strength of Berserk/Deathbound/Mow Down/Hassohappa.

Both are awesome though, but I've found that Deathbound does more damage, even with a higher AG than VI stat and the same ST. Multi-Strike is a lot of fun to look at though and is a surefire way to wipe out an entire party (Hassohappa attacks all enemies too, but it can miss whereas Multi-Strike has a ton of hits and will pretty much always kill an enemy).
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(03-15-2012, 11:33 PM)

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#857

That was just beautiful.

Day 5's boss obliterated in a SINGLE SKIRMISH.

Force Dance + Force Boost from Main, Force Dance from King Frost, Assassinate from my beastly Chu Chulainn = DUST.


I love this game.
Koroviev
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(03-16-2012, 02:11 AM)

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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
That was just beautiful.

Day 5's boss obliterated in a SINGLE SKIRMISH.

Force Dance + Force Boost from Main, Force Dance from King Frost, Assassinate from my beastly Chu Chulainn = DUST.
I

I love this game.
You still have King Frost? I'm trying to figure out a worthy fusion use for tyrant Moloch ._.

And yeah, Day 5's boss isn't too bad at all, especially compared to Day 4's.
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(03-16-2012, 02:17 AM)

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#859

Originally Posted by HK-47: View Post
And if I go phys hitter MC, what levels of agi and magic do I need for important skills?
I would also like to know this. I just finished t he first day.
cj_iwakura
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#860

Originally Posted by Koroviev: View Post
You still have King Frost? I'm trying to figure out a worthy fusion use for tyrant Moloch ._.

And yeah, Day 5's boss isn't too bad at all, especially compared to Day 4's.
Can't bring myself to part with him, or his beastly resistances. Mine is strong against EVERYTHING.

Coming up on Day 6, pretty sure I'm gonna side with

Anguished One. Rot in hell, Messian JP scum.
PK Gaming
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
Can't bring myself to part with him, or his beastly resistances. Mine is strong against EVERYTHING.

Coming up on Day 6, pretty sure I'm gonna side with

Anguished One. Rot in hell, Messian JP scum.
Thats definitely one of the better endings. Good choice ♪
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(03-16-2012, 06:19 AM)

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#862

Should I keep Thor or fuse him into Neko Shogun?
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(03-16-2012, 07:24 AM)

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#863

Now that Mass Effect 3 is done, I should be getting back to this game soon. :D
Mitama
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(03-16-2012, 09:34 AM)

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#864

Originally Posted by hypersheep: View Post
Should I keep Thor or fuse him into Neko Shogun?
He's a keeper!
Femmeworth
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(03-16-2012, 09:36 AM)

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#865

My spring break is practically over and I still haven't even touched this. What's wrong with me? :( I think Overclocked spoiled me too much.
Koroviev
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(03-16-2012, 04:52 PM)

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#866

Originally Posted by Femmeworth: View Post
My spring break is practically over and I still haven't even touched this. What's wrong with me? :( I think Overclocked spoiled me too much.
Finish it. Now. >:(
Torraz
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(03-16-2012, 08:31 PM)

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Day 5 has been a hell of a ride so far. Some really nice fusions are unlocking.
Poor Kama :(.. The boss went 100% perfectly until I actually starting fighting him... Didn't realize one didnt need to reach one movement grid away from the blinking squares in order to deploy the anti-venom... That's why I stopped within the bosses attack range once (my movement would have just sufficed but I thought that I would have needed 1 more movement...). That's why my MC + team got hit with the toxin. Then I had some terrible luck with my magic casters getting hit with gigajama etc. Nonetheless the boss died during the first try.

Somehow I messed up on skill-cracking. Can someone please confirm that pierce (that I somehow failed to crack from the cu chuluucain (sp) can be had on, preferably, a random encounter late day 5 / early day 6?

Loving the game so far.
cj_iwakura
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(03-16-2012, 11:43 PM)

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#868

Pierce can definitely be gotten later, but I believe I got it in the last scripted Day 5 battle.
Torraz
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(03-17-2012, 12:38 AM)

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#869

Yes, that's where I got it.

Now in day 6 and I think the route choice is edging closer and closer :(. So far I see four routes emerging: Yamato's capitalism ho route, ronaldos communism route, the anguished one route and the "screw all of them" route . Decisions, decisions. But first of all I haven't really changed my team in a while so I'll have to grind some macca and fuse some new demons.
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(03-17-2012, 12:41 AM)

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#870

Team of Kings:

Main, Jungo, Airi, Fumi.


#2 can one shot any team lead in the game once he gets Assassinate, paired with High Crit, Phys Amp, Phys Boost(Stacking go!).
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#871

Originally Posted by Koroviev: View Post
Finish it. Now. >:(
But I want voice acting and crisper sprites. :(
Torraz
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(03-17-2012, 01:08 AM)

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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura: View Post
Team of Kings:

Main, Jungo, Airi, Fumi.


#2 can one shot any team lead in the game once he gets Assassinate, paired with High Crit, Phys Amp, Phys Boost(Stacking go!).
I have the same, except that I replaced jungo with hinako. Really loving that high agility. I'm often able to kill an enemy group before they can even act, which was not the case with the former.
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(03-17-2012, 03:24 AM)

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#873

i'm pretty much at the end of the game (i have to beat the last boss,or what i think is the last boss anyway)...from the gameplay standpoint the game is pretty much identical to the prequel,but i liked some of the new twist with the battles...what is not on par with the first game is the story...i have fell in love with the one of the first game...with this one..not so much...too much "evangelion" vibe from it..and i can't say i've liked the fact that people around you treat you like a demi-god from the beginning to the end...
Koroviev
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(03-17-2012, 04:56 AM)

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#874

Originally Posted by Femmeworth: View Post
But I want voice acting and crisper sprites. :(
I have my own voices in mind, so I think actual VA would bug me at this point, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. I'm just in love with the cast and so happy that they changed up the soundtrack.
Requeim
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(03-17-2012, 09:28 AM)

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#875

real team of kings: Fumi/Otome/Hinako. come at me
Chie Satonaka
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#876

I just finished my first run of this.

Fuck you, Polaris. That has to be one of the most excruciating boss fights I've ever experienced. Did anyone actually do that by taking out B and Ab? I went with a full on rush to the main part and still got decimated by the other part raining physical attacks on me.

I also did Daichi's path. I didn't have +4 fate for everyone, and all that happened is they went back and everyone started to help the wounded and such. Kinda boring. I'm going to redo it and go for the Meritocracy.
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Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka: View Post
I just finished my first run of this.

Fuck you, Polaris. That has to be one of the most excruciating boss fights I've ever experienced. Did anyone actually do that by taking out B and Ab? I went with a full on rush to the main part and still got decimated by the other part raining physical attacks on me.

I also did Daichi's path. I didn't have +4 fate for everyone, and all that happened is they went back and everyone started to help the wounded and such. Kinda boring. I'm going to redo it and go for the Meritocracy.
How many hours did it take you? The activity log shows 45 hours for me and I'm at the start of Day 6.
Chie Satonaka
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#878

Originally Posted by Koroviev: View Post
How many hours did it take you? The activity log shows 45 hours for me and I'm at the start of Day 6.
My clear data save is at 37 hours.
Chrono Helix
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(03-17-2012, 05:07 PM)
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Mine's around 22 hours. I guess not doing free battles saves a lot of time.
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(03-17-2012, 05:59 PM)

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Alright, I'm finding the final boss very difficult. Any tips to help me get by it? I have a phys based MC and am using Io, Fumi, and Hinako. I find it's hard to balance a team that will be able to quickly kill polaris one, deal with the past selves and then still be strong and robust enough to deal with Polaris a. Not to mention the mana gets eaten up very hard on some of my characters (even with mana stream)
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#881

On the last day now. Still fusing every new demon each time I level up.
Koroviev
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(03-17-2012, 08:21 PM)

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Originally Posted by Chrono Helix: View Post
Mine's around 22 hours. I guess not doing free battles saves a lot of time.
My in-game clock only reads about 30 hours, but I was resetting a lot at the beginning for fusion experiments :P

Originally Posted by RPG_Fanatic: View Post
On the last day now. Still fusing every new demon each time I level up.
That must take forever x_x
Chie Satonaka
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(03-17-2012, 08:39 PM)
#883

Originally Posted by Earthstrike: View Post
Alright, I'm finding the final boss very difficult. Any tips to help me get by it? I have a phys based MC and am using Io, Fumi, and Hinako. I find it's hard to balance a team that will be able to quickly kill polaris one, deal with the past selves and then still be strong and robust enough to deal with Polaris a. Not to mention the mana gets eaten up very hard on some of my characters (even with mana stream)
I didn't have any problem with the first two phases. On the last phase, I basically rushed Polaris' main form. My MC was Mag/Vit based, though. Hinako with Multistrike and Pierce took it down over halfway by herself. At that point, I just needed to survive until my other party members (Io, Fumi, MC) were in range. My MC also had absorb phys, which helps with the other Polaris raining down death on you.

Most importantly, I found that demons with high resistances, especially phys, will help you out. I had Loki, Remiel, Alliat and Trumpeter, and those four helped me out tons

Hope that helps a little. My team was also all 63+. Hinako ended at level 67, since she decimates everything in the way.
Koroviev
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(03-17-2012, 08:46 PM)

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Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka: View Post
I didn't have any problem with the first two phases. On the last phase, I basically rushed Polaris' main form. My MC was Mag/Vit based, though. Hinako with Multistrike and Pierce took it down over halfway by herself. At that point, I just needed to survive until my other party members (Io, Fumi, MC) were in range. My MC also had absorb phys, which helps with the other Polaris raining down death on you.

Most importantly, I found that demons with high resistances, especially phys, will help you out. I had Loki, Remiel, Alliat and Trumpeter, and those four helped me out tons

Hope that helps a little. My team was also all 63+. Hinako ended at level 67, since she decimates everything in the way.
Oh, love your avatar, btw. Fumi is probably my favorite character. Her and Otome are the reason I'm loyal to JPs :)
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#885

Finished my first run. Bosses that gave me trouble were Benetnasch after it split into four, Yamato and the final form of Polaris. Did Daichi route and had no idea that I'd get a different ending if the Fate level for all characters are level 4 or above (Yamato was at 0, Keita and AO were at 3). Guess I'll save that ending for whenever I have gone through the Yamato, Ronaldo and AO routes. My cleare save files says 24:14, but according to the 3DS activity log I have spent over...43 hours. :D

As for my final teams (spoiler tag just in case):

Level 67 magic MC + Loki + Tao Tie (all had Drain, Phys Repel and Anti Most)
Level 65 Hinako + Alilat + Norn
Level 65 Otome + Ukano Mitama + Grendel
Level 64 Fumi + Ganesha + Nata Taishi

Only MC and Otome made it through the entire battle against Polaris. <_<
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Chie Satonaka
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#886

Originally Posted by Koroviev: View Post
Oh, love your avatar, btw. Fumi is probably my favorite character. Her and Otome are the reason I'm loyal to JPs :)
Thanks. Fumi is pretty great, yeah. The scene with her and Trumpeter was gold. I never expected that to happen.
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(03-17-2012, 09:29 PM)

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On Day 3 is there any way to actually beat Q in the Optional Vs Q event, I beat all his demons, but he just ran away afterwards, with no way to catch-up to him.>:(.
Chie Satonaka
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Originally Posted by Lafiel: View Post
On Day 3 is there any way to actually beat Q in the Optional Vs Q event, I beat all his demons, but he just ran away afterwards, with no way to catch-up to him.>:(.
I beat him. Leave one demon alive (literally, engage the last group and leave the demon leader alive so he won't do much damage) and then go after him before he runs. If you haven't already, make sure all your other team member's demons are in reserve so you can summon new demons as yours fall.
Torraz
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(03-18-2012, 12:42 AM)

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#889

I'm mid day 6. My MCs stats are
STR 8
VIT 6
AGI 8
MAG 40

Should I from now on pump all points in agi or do I need more points in the other two stats too, for requirement-reasons?
PK Gaming
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(03-18-2012, 12:59 AM)

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Well, you'll want at least 10 vit for null phys and some speed for a few high lvl spells. I also think you need at least 8 str for holy dance though i'm not sure...

But Wowza bo bowza, talk about magic overkill!
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Mitama
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Originally Posted by Torraz: View Post
I'm mid day 6. My MCs stats are
STR 8
VIT 6
AGI 8
MAG 40

Should I from now on pump all points in agi or do I need more points in the other two stats too, for requirement-reasons?
Dual Shadow: 15 AG
Phys Repel: 12 VI
Anti-Almighty: 19 VI
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Originally Posted by Mitama: View Post
Dual Shadow: 15 AG
Phys Repel: 12 VI
Anti-Almighty: 19 VI
Thanks!

Originally Posted by PK Gaming: View Post
Well, you'll want at least 10 vit for null phys and some speed for a few high lvl spells. I also think you need at least 8 str for holy dance though i'm not sure...

But Wowza bo bowza, talk about magic overkill!
I take the title of glass-cannon seriously ;).

----

Blargh, that billiken just bee-lined for the demon I wanted to skill-crack Holy Dance from. Haven't found another one in a fight yet :(. Route decision-time seems to be steadily approaching.
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Originally Posted by Koroviev: View Post
Fumi is probably my favorite character...
just started day 6, &, yeah, fumi is the only unique & distinctive character of all the companions, imo. while i've kinda warmed to the rest of the cast over time, they all still feel much more charicature-ish than the cast of ds1...

really enjoying the gameplay, & pretty much breezing thru bosses, but everything else just isn't working for me quite as well as it did in ds1. it's still a very good game, tho :) ...
SteveO409
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Ugh been trying to beat Ronaldo/Phecda for 3 hours today and no luck. It's hard enough to beat Ronaldo but then trying to time [spoil]killing both of phecda in one party turn is really getting me[/spoiler]
drtomoe123
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(03-18-2012, 03:33 AM)

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Just beat the game today.

After finally making it through Overclocked a few months ago (and loving it), I had a lot of hype for this game, and, overall, it delivered. My problem with the original game was that the game's story really didn't pick up for me until around halfway when the whole angels vs demons plot gets going. However, this game kept me interested the entire way through, and I think that had a lot to do with the characters. Even though the characters might have suffered from being a little too one-dimensional, they still felt real and a lot more likable than most of the DS1 characters. All in all, I think the Fate system fleshed them out enough for me to stay interested. I won't lie, I teared up a little bit when Jungo had to let cat-Jungo go. :(

Gameplay-wise, I don't know if it's just from playing through DS1 (and SMT in general), but I breezed through most of the game. I remember reading through Bebpo's initial impressions of the game and how the sheer difficulty of the second half of the game was emphasized, which really made me uncomfortable. Seriously, the last day or so of DS1 (and unknowingly getting into one of the harder routes) made me want to pull my hair out to the point where I just wanted to stop playing. However, after playing through the sequel, I was amazed at how easy it was. I had a little trouble with Polaris's last form, but I was just lazy with fusion because I had been steamrolling everything up to that point. Practically every demon I had was using Holy Dance and they would murder everything in one turn.

Anyways, I really enjoyed the game and I put about 23 hours into the first playthrough (my 3DS activity log says like 36...). I'd really love to see another game in this series.
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Originally Posted by semiconscious: View Post
just started day 6, &, yeah, fumi is the only unique & distinctive character of all the companions, imo. while i've kinda warmed to the rest of the cast over time, they all still feel much more charicature-ish than the cast of ds1...

really enjoying the gameplay, & pretty much breezing thru bosses, but everything else just isn't working for me quite as well as it did in ds1. it's still a very good game, tho :) ...
That my friend, is trolling by the game devs. They KNOW we want holy dance, and they tease it in front of us... grrr
Chie Satonaka
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#897

Originally Posted by drtomoe123: View Post
I'd really love to see another game in this series.
I know we just got DS2 and Overclocked was just last year, but I'm hoping we get Devil Survivor 3 that fully realizes the potential of the 3DS sooner than later.
LuchaShaq
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(03-18-2012, 03:48 AM)

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Got about 15 hours in.

Selling it already.

Fuck anyone who designed/wrote for the characters in this game. Just as bad if not worse than the first.

Hope the best ending involves all of the characters dying in torturous ways just so I can youtube it and enjoy it.
PK Gaming
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Chrono Helix
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(03-18-2012, 04:44 AM)
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I just beat Lilith.

They dangle so many wonderful auto skills in front of you to crack, and you're not allowed to get any of them!