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Izick
(03-04-2012, 12:32 AM)



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Combichristoffersen
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(03-04-2012, 12:46 AM)
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Congrats on the OT. When will the beta of FF12 be up? Not too keen on running Aurora releases as I've had too much hassle with getting extensions to work properly with them in the past.
Vigilant Walrus
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(03-04-2012, 12:47 AM)
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I'm on chrome right now. I am not sure if I want to switch back. Flash fucked me up so bad in the past.:/

but maybe thats not FF's fault?
Road
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(03-04-2012, 12:48 AM)

Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen

Congrats on the OT. When will the beta of FF12 be up? Not too keen on running Aurora releases as I've had too much hassle with getting extensions to work properly with them in the past.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Re...ing#Firefox_12

March 13.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 12:48 AM)

Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen

Congrats on the OT. When will the beta of FF12 be up? Not too keen on running Aurora releases as I've had too much hassle with getting extensions to work properly with them in the past.

March 13th.

Think I should put this in the OT?
kharma45
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(03-04-2012, 12:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

I'm on chrome right now. I am not sure if I want to switch back. Flash fucked me up so bad in the past.:/

but maybe thats not FF's fault?

Won't hurt to try it out again.

Originally Posted by Izick

March 13th.

Think I should put this in the OT?

Yeah stick it in. That's what she said.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 12:50 AM)

Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

I'm on chrome right now. I am not sure if I want to switch back. Flash fucked me up so bad in the past.:/

but maybe thats not FF's fault?

Really can't hurt to try. I'm on Ubuntu, so flash sucks everywhere. :/
Road
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(03-04-2012, 12:52 AM)
Might want to put Nightly in the OP too.
BlackFlip
(03-04-2012, 12:52 AM)
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Nice, OT. I use both browsers, but FF will always be my main. And their goals for 2012, if they meet them, could be amazin.
kharma45
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(03-04-2012, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Road

Might want to put Nightly in the OP too.

And maybe some info on the mobile/tablet versions too not just the desktop stuff :)
loosus
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(03-04-2012, 01:02 AM)
What the fuck do they even change in Firefox or Chrome, anymore. All these releases seem like a numbers pissing contest.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 01:07 AM)
Updated the OP.
OG Kush
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(03-04-2012, 01:13 AM)
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Guys I'm stil on 3.6.2 (or whatever it is).. I'm scared to upgrade because of plugins and skins (i'm using the firefox 2 skin, I love it!), and UI changes etc. Someone please help me through the process as I think the time has finally come to upgrade.

edit: holy shit 12 is coming out? WTF is going on here Mozilla?!
Izick
(03-04-2012, 01:19 AM)

Originally Posted by OG Kush

Guys I'm stil on 3.6.2 (or whatever it is).. I'm scared to upgrade because of plugins and skins (i'm using the firefox 2 skin, I love it!), and UI changes etc. Someone please help me through the process as I think the time has finally come to upgrade.

edit: holy shit 12 is coming out? WTF is going on here Mozilla?!

Okay, first of all, let me explain that version numbers are now basically meaningless, but I'm saying this not in a negative way though. Extensions and themes don't break like they used to in older version upgrades. Everything is simple, quick, and efficient.

Also, I'm willing to help you out, as I'm sure many others here are as well!
kharma45
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(03-04-2012, 01:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by OG Kush

Guys I'm stil on 3.6.2 (or whatever it is).. I'm scared to upgrade because of plugins and skins (i'm using the firefox 2 skin, I love it!), and UI changes etc. Someone please help me through the process as I think the time has finally come to upgrade.

edit: holy shit 12 is coming out? WTF is going on here Mozilla?!

On a rapid release cycle now with new releases coming every 6 weeks. I feel it's better than the old system, smaller faster updates rather than the long wait of before for them to come all at once.

Most plug-ins now etc. should work, and the UI being Firefox you can customise to look however you like.

If you're wanting it to look like FF2 this add-on may be the one you're looking for if you do upgrade

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ox/?src=search

New UI ftw, more streamlined and takes up less room.
hateradio
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(03-04-2012, 01:28 AM)
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There's also some info on the Roadmap page. I want Australis now.
Paradoxal_Utopia
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(03-04-2012, 01:29 AM)

Originally Posted by OG Kush

Guys I'm stil on 3.6.2 (or whatever it is).. I'm scared to upgrade because of plugins and skins (i'm using the firefox 2 skin, I love it!), and UI changes etc. Someone please help me through the process as I think the time has finally come to upgrade.

edit: holy shit 12 is coming out? WTF is going on here Mozilla?!

Oh, what's the worst that can possible happen? UI changes? It's a fucking browser. Also, how can anyone help if you're not specific about the plugins you need? It wouldn't take you that much effort to Google for compatibility. Not sure how or why you would stay on such an outdated version.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 01:45 AM)

Originally Posted by hateradio

There's also some info on the Roadmap page. I want Australis now.

Updated OP.

I'm very keen on Australis as well. I know there are a lot of people out there who hate it though.

There's actually a mock-up of it, made by a fan, that you can try here.
ChefRamsay
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(03-04-2012, 01:46 AM)
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Anybody else's Flash player incredibly unstable in 10.0.2?

About 1 in 15 Youtube vids hang for 2 minutes, then crash the plug-in. Annoying as fuck.
kharma45
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(03-04-2012, 01:49 AM)
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Also, if you're looking for ideas to steal to stick in the Firefox OT here's the Chrome OT :P

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406097

Originally Posted by ChefRamsay

Anybody else's Flash player incredibly unstable in 10.0.2?

About 1 in 15 Youtube vids hang for 2 minutes, then crash the plug-in. Annoying as fuck.

Solid as a rock for me. Tried reinstalling Flash?
Last edited by kharma45; 03-04-2012 at 01:51 AM.
BlackFlip
(03-04-2012, 01:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by hateradio

There's also some info on the Roadmap page. I want Australis now.

I'm still wondering where my app buttons are.



bastards...
ChefRamsay
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(03-04-2012, 01:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by kharma45

Solid as a rock for me. Tried reinstalling Flash?

Will try.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 01:58 AM)
I switched to Linux because I couldn't afford a W7 disc, and I'm happy with everything except for Flash. It's so damn terrible.

I downloaded Flash Aid for Firefox, tried everything really, and it still is just terrible compared to Windows 7. You can't even go full screen in Youtube without it slowing down, nor put it in 720p. Blip.tv is unplayable.

The thing that sucks is that for the 30% of videos on Youtube that use HTML5, they're slow as hell for me as well, at least in Firefox (mind you this is Linux still, not W7; HTML 5 was okay for me when I used it in W7).
Greyface
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(03-04-2012, 09:55 AM)
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Useful Op. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Izick

The thing that sucks is that for the 30% of videos on Youtube that use HTML5, they're slow as hell for me as well, at least in Firefox (mind you this is Linux still, not W7; HTML 5 was okay for me when I used it in W7).

How do you get the HTML5 player in Firefox?



EDIT: COOLPREVIEWS is AWESOME!?!! Why have I been missing out on this?! Much better than the hyperwords implementation. This is why I prefer desktop browsers to that 'touch the web' nonsense.
Last edited by Greyface; 03-04-2012 at 10:12 AM.
risk
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(03-04-2012, 10:34 AM)
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Was going back and forth between Firefox and Chrome for the longest time. I'm sticking with Firefox since it has better extensions(Secure Login especially) and location bar for bookmarks. Chrome was a bit faster, but I disliked using Lastpass as a password manager and not being able to search through bookmarks using the Omnibar.
kharma45
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(03-04-2012, 11:10 AM)
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Firefox also top in the latest Browser Grand Prix for Windows users

Web Browser Grand Prix 9: Chrome 17, Firefox 10, And Ubuntu - Toms Hardware

With a higher combination of wins and strong finishes, and the same number of losses, Firefox barely pulls off another victory over Chrome. While Mozilla solidified its lead over Google in WBGP VIII, Chrome all but took that lead back, returning Firefox to the tenuous victory is pulled off in WBGP 7.

Opera remains in a comparatively distant third place, while Safari is even further behind. Meanwhile, IE9 is looking more like IE8 in the face of its fast-paced competition.

Mr_Zombie
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(03-04-2012, 11:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by loosus

What the fuck do they even change in Firefox or Chrome, anymore. All these releases seem like a numbers pissing contest.

They are improving UI, adding new features (eg. in Aurora 12 you can finally sync your add-ons - they are automatically installed on a new system if you sync your account; unfortunately, the configuration isn't sync), fixing security, adding/improving support for new HTML5/CSS3 features, improving JavaScript support etc.

Each time a new version of a browser is released there's a changelog, so you can see for yourself what was changed.
Road
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(03-04-2012, 03:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Greyface

How do you get the HTML5 player in Firefox?

You have to opt in for html 5 and it'll work on any browser and Youtube video that support it.
loosus
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(03-04-2012, 03:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Mr_Zombie

They are improving UI, adding new features (eg. in Aurora 12 you can finally sync your add-ons - they are automatically installed on a new system if you sync your account; unfortunately, the configuration isn't sync), fixing security, adding/improving support for new HTML5/CSS3 features, improving JavaScript support etc.

Each time a new version of a browser is released there's a changelog, so you can see for yourself what was changed.

So nothing really? :P
Izick
(03-04-2012, 05:42 PM)

Originally Posted by kharma45

Firefox also top in the latest Browser Grand Prix for Windows users

Web Browser Grand Prix 9: Chrome 17, Firefox 10, And Ubuntu - Toms Hardware

That's great news for Windows users. I hope that Mozilla picks up the slack on Linux though.
Vanillalite
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(03-04-2012, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by hateradio

There's also some info on the Roadmap page. I want Australis now.

I saw this on GAF somewhere before, and was keen on the look. I just recently made the switch back to FF though just a few days ago, and tried to find some info on when Mozilla was aiming for the switch. I came up with nothing though.

Does anyone have any idea on their road map for this? I saw someone posted something, but the link just says 2H? I assume that means 2nd half of the year? I also wonder how much this change is going to get fucked over by the fact that Win 8 has to be designed for Metro.

PS: Congrats on the OP Izick!
Last edited by Vanillalite; 03-04-2012 at 05:55 PM.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 06:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Brettison

I saw this on GAF somewhere before, and was keen on the look. I just recently made the switch back to FF though just a few days ago, and tried to find some info on when Mozilla was aiming for the switch. I came up with nothing though.

Does anyone have any idea on their road map for this?

PS: Congrats on the OP Izick!

Thank you!

It's still in stage 1, so I'm guessing we still have a long ways to go.I remember reading that Mozilla wanted to implement it in 2012 though, so I'm guessing late 2012, but I can't seem to find a credible source or citation for that, so it's just speculation I guess.
rozay
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(03-04-2012, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

Updated OP.

I'm very keen on Australis as well. I know there are a lot of people out there who hate it though.

There's actually a mock-up of it, made by a fan, that you can try here.

doesn't work on aurora 12 :{
Izick
(03-04-2012, 06:24 PM)

Originally Posted by rozay

doesn't work on aurora 12 :{

Lame. Hopefully they update it for modern use, sadly I can't seem to find a good work around though :/
Vanillalite
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(03-04-2012, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

Thank you!

It's still in stage 1, so I'm guessing we still have a long ways to go.I remember reading that Mozilla wanted to implement it in 2012 though, so I'm guessing late 2012, but I can't seem to find a credible source or citation for that, so it's just speculation I guess.

I wonder how much also doing a full Metro UI redesign will mess with this.
Izick
(03-04-2012, 06:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Brettison

I wonder how much also doing a full Metro UI redesign will mess with this.

I wouldn't think that much, since you're still browsing when you're on the desktop interface which is still really similar to W7.
Bomber Bob
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(03-04-2012, 06:53 PM)
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I like firefox but screen tearing on OSX is unbearable ;(
Izick
(03-04-2012, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Bomber Bob

I like firefox but screen tearing on OSX is unbearable ;(

Don't use OSX, but may I suggest disabling hardware acceleration?
Vanillalite
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(03-06-2012, 04:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

I wouldn't think that much, since you're still browsing when you're on the desktop interface which is still really similar to W7.

Only so much main power to go around though, and I'd assume it's a top priority to get a Metro based browser done by Win 8 launch. I know if you're a 3rd party browser you'd like to be the competition in this regard.

I hope both can get done though in a timely manner!
Korey
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(03-06-2012, 04:43 AM)
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https sites are messed up in my firefox. Anyone have any ideas why? It's like they load without the stylesheet or something
Vanillalite
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(03-06-2012, 04:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Korey

https sites are messed up in my firefox. Anyone have any ideas why? It's like they load without the stylesheet or something

What version of FF? You on Stable 10? Are you using any addons like HTTPS Everywhere?
beat
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(03-07-2012, 10:32 PM)
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BTW, I've switched to Waterfox, which is pretty much Firefox but 64-bit. I don't -know- that it makes anything better, but what the hell. There's 64 bit Flash, so the only thing I miss out on is Quicktime.
Izick
(03-08-2012, 05:31 AM)

Originally Posted by beat

BTW, I've switched to Waterfox, which is pretty much Firefox but 64-bit. I don't -know- that it makes anything better, but what the hell. There's 64 bit Flash, so the only thing I miss out on is Quicktime.

Is the performance between the 2 on a 64 bit computer like night and day?
Road
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(03-08-2012, 05:57 AM)

Originally Posted by Izick

Is the performance between the 2 on a 64 bit computer like night and day?

I don't know about Waterforx, but I use Nightly 64 bit and there really isn't any noticeable difference. 64 bit can address more memory but that's all because the builds aren't really optimized to make use of other possible 64 bit advantages (in fact, things such as JavaScript are heavily optimized for 32 bit and are consequently slower on 64 bit builds).
lunarworks
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(03-10-2012, 06:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

Firefox Metro development begins, status update

That's awesome. Netscape on Windows 3.1 was my first browser. It'll be nice to use that again.
neoanarch
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(03-10-2012, 06:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr_Zombie

They are improving UI, adding new features (eg. in Aurora 12 you can finally sync your add-ons - they are automatically installed on a new system if you sync your account; unfortunately, the configuration isn't sync), fixing security, adding/improving support for new HTML5/CSS3 features, improving JavaScript support etc.

Each time a new version of a browser is released there's a changelog, so you can see for yourself what was changed.

AddOn sync is in the current beta 11. Some programs like adblock plus do sync your settings over.
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(03-10-2012, 06:58 AM)
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this thread needs to have the GAF add-ons and Greasemonkey added to the OP.
a secret-boss
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(03-10-2012, 07:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

Firefox Metro development begins, status update

oooo yeah. its happening
neoanarch
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(03-10-2012, 07:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions

this thread needs to have the GAF add-ons and Greasemonkey added to the OP.

Scriptish please.

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