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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
Are you serious?!

Magnus Clubs have the highest melee strength in the game (a six-starred melee combo does upwards of 300 damage), and their charge shot, however powerful it may be, only has a range of about 20 metres. They key to using them is to ambush the opponent and then melee the crap out of them.
Pretty much what Scrafty just said.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
Are you serious?!

Magnus Clubs have the highest melee strength in the game (a six-starred melee combo does upwards of 300 damage), and their charge shot, however powerful it may be, only has a range of about 20 metres. They key to using them is to ambush the opponent and then melee the crap out of them.
No, Ogre Clubs have the highest melee in the game (it even says so on the idol). The benefit of the Magnus Club is the super fast recharge time on the charged shot and its good homing ability. If you just want to melee the Magnus Club is not your best choice.

My Ogre Club does 350 damage with a melee dash attack, and 290 with a combo at having only 5 melee stars.
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Karsticles is right about the Ogre Club. The other big benefit of the Magnus club is that it offers a large speed boost, such that you're almost able to move as though you were not wielding a club.

You're probably better off with 6 stars of ranged and using the charged back dash to tornado anything within melee range to death.
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Originally Posted by RPG Wizard: View Post
Karsticles is right about the Ogre Club. The other big benefit of the Magnus club is that it offers a large speed boost, such that you're almost able to move as though you were not wielding a club.

You're probably better off with 6 stars of ranged and using the charged back dash to tornado anything within melee range to death.
The charged shot is nice, but the real benefit of the speed is to quickly get within melee range. If if a Magnus Club has 6 stars in melee and ranged, the melee combo is still going to do more damage (unmodified it does 310 compared to the 260 of a charge shot)
and be harder to dodge. The charge should be used only if you're approaching the enemy from the front and they have the potential to KO you before you reach them. Otherwise, it's almost always smarter and safer to try and sneak up behind them with a melee combo.
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Originally Posted by Karsticles: View Post
1 or 2? I loved the first, hesitant about the second. I liked the honest depiction of human nature.
Both, but definitely 2, the boobs in that game are unreal.
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The Magnus Club may not be the absolute most powerful melee weapon in the whole wide game, but it's certainly better as a melee weapon than a ranged weapon, come on.
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took longer than expected...but I finally ordered off amazon. Can't wait lol
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
The charged shot is nice, but the real benefit of the speed is to quickly get within melee range. If if a Magnus Club has 6 stars in melee and ranged, the melee combo is still going to do more damage (unmodified it does 310 compared to the 260 of a charge shot)
and be harder to dodge. The charge should be used only if you're approaching the enemy from the front and they have the potential to KO you before you reach them. Otherwise, it's almost always smarter and safer to try and sneak up behind them with a melee combo.
I don't feel like Speed is a huge factor just because there are so many powers that take up little space that let you run super fast. Generally, the bigger difficulty is either winning melee exchanges with the club, which IMO requires armor unless your opponent is bad, or them getting surprised, since it's hard as hell to land the melee dash attack on a mobile opponent (you almost always get a death-resulting charge dash attack instead).

The fact is that with my Ogre Club, which does have Speed +4, there's a massive difference between when I play decent players and when I play good ones. It's really easy to be Mr. Invisible Assassin against decent players, but good ones are moving around so much that it's hard to get that attack to land perfectly, whereas the Magnus Club's charged dash attack will almost absolutely land.

IIRC, player life at default is 232, so whether you do 260 or 310 damage doesn't really matter against anyone who isn't stacking defense on their weapon, and if a person is stacking defense, that person probably isn't very scary in PvP anyway, but there are exceptions. I don't think it's a common enough situation to make it the killing blow in your argument.

Originally Posted by PK Gaming: View Post
Both, but definitely 2, the boobs in that game are unreal.
How is the actual game? Haha. Especially compared to DS1.

Originally Posted by Roto13: View Post
The Magnus Club may not be the absolute most powerful melee weapon in the whole wide game, but it's certainly better as a melee weapon than a ranged weapon, come on.
I disagree. Especially in single player. I had a 6/6 Magnus Club for a while, and the charged shot recharges so fast that it's ridiculous. It's so SAFE, whereas melee attacks leave you vulnerable, especially with a club. I pretty much exclusively use clubs in PvP, and that's my experience. I've teamed up with guys that consistently score 3000+ each LvD battle that use Magnus Clubs, and it's always a 6 Range, +4 charged dash attack weapon out there annihilating.

I wish I could know for certain whether you can get shot range on a Magnus Club, too.
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The official soundtrack is only twenty-five tracks long. :I I'm pissed off now.
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Thanks for playing Trance!

We made sure you weren't outnumbered and gave you level 9 cpu's haha.
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gamefaqs, y u no give me my long-awaited text dump?

reading the game's script would be a joy.
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i myself prefer speed over sheer damage, so I favor claws, I've got a raptor claw with +2 speed/+4 stamina, +4 melee combo but only 3 1/2 stars melee, but it hits fast.
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Originally Posted by Insaniac: View Post
i myself prefer speed over sheer damage, so I favor claws, I've got a raptor claw with +2 speed/+4 stamina, +4 melee combo but only 3 1/2 stars melee, but it hits fast.
You mean you move fast, right? I didn't think speed affected combo speed.
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Originally Posted by Karsticles: View Post
You mean you move fast, right? I didn't think speed affected combo speed.
There's no noticable difference in attacking speed between my +4 Speed and neutral Speed Viper Blades.
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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera: View Post
The official soundtrack is only twenty-five tracks long. :I I'm pissed off now.
Definitely should be more than that
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Originally Posted by lazybones18: View Post
Definitely should be more than that
I downloaded a zip file off youtube that had about 60 songs in it.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
I downloaded a zip file off youtube that had about 60 songs in it.
That's not the official one, though, and the tracks that are on Youtube (that aren't from the official soundtrack) are of really low quality. It's disappointing, because I would have liked a high-quality version of the chapter 21 music.
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Originally Posted by Sir Ilpalazzo: View Post
That's not the official one, though, and the tracks that are on Youtube (that aren't from the official soundtrack) are of really low quality. It's disappointing, because I would have liked a high-quality version of the chapter 21 music.
They sound high quality to me, and it was every song you can unlock through treasure boards.

This is what they all sound like (quality wise)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xteSYHtMhFU
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Sequel? Sakurai: "No"
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Originally Posted by lazybones18: View Post
I'm fine with that. Legends take time.
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Originally Posted by lazybones18: View Post
That makes me sad :(

At least i have this awesome game i can play now though. It kind of makes sense that theres not gonna be a sequel though, the ending never really showed any signs of one happening.
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Originally Posted by lazybones18: View Post
As awesome as this game is, I do think it's way too early to be considering a sequel. The game stands well enough on its own.

Personally, I think one installment per console generation, no matter the series, is enough.
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Originally Posted by Karsticles: View Post
How is the actual game? Haha. Especially compared to DS1.
On a gameplay level, it builds on everything that made the first game good and makes it 10X better. There's a demon compendium which lets you save your demons and buy them again, which makes fusing a breeze, there's the SDTP which lets you swap demons amongst party members mid battle, etc. There are like 14 playable characters of characters, and you get access to like 80% of them early on. Storywise the game is really good, (I preferred DS1 though). I'd get it now if If you have the money.

Damn. Even if another dev picked up the game it just won't be the same. I know its too early to consider a sequel, but there a huge amount of finality to his response... Here's hoping we get a sequel 5 or 6 years down the line... maybe even after smash 4 is made. I have to agree with him on game length though hahaha...
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I will be hosting some LVD matches in about 20 minutes.

You are welcome to join, and if i'm not on your friends list, then just add me

FC: 5155-3032-4812
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This is a personal appeal from me:

Fighting CPUs is so dumb, please join our matches
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
I will be hosting some LVD matches in about 20 minutes.

You are welcome to join, and if i'm not on your friends list, then just add me

FC: 5155-3032-4812
I'll be with you guys later, but I have some stuff to do now.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
I'll be with you guys later, but I have some stuff to do now.
You still gonna be on by around 3:30? If so, I could go ahead and email the other team and let them know.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
You still gonna be on by around 3:30? If so, I could go ahead and email the other team and let them know.
Yup, 3:30 until 4:30. After that, I'm goin' out to party for a couple of hours, and then I'll be back by 9:00 PM central.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
Yup, 3:30 until 4:30. After that, I'm goin' out to party for a couple of hours, and then I'll be back by 9:00 PM central.
Alright cool, I just emailed them seeing if 3:30 was good.
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Originally Posted by Karsticles: View Post
You mean you move fast, right? I didn't think speed affected combo speed.
well yeah I meant move fast, but I was more referring to my ability to hit and run before the enemy can recover.

Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
That makes me sad :(

At least i have this awesome game i can play now though. It kind of makes sense that theres not gonna be a sequel though, the ending never really showed any signs of one happening.
Since this game has so much content and its multiplayer is so good, I feel it would last a looong time. If they never made SSBB, I would've been absolutely fine with continuing to play Melee



Also if anyone would be as so kind to make me a KI avatar, I was thinking photoshopping some Raptor claws onto homers hands over the doughnuts :D

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double post :p
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming: View Post
On a gameplay level, it builds on everything that made the first game good and makes it 10X better. There's a demon compendium which lets you save your demons and buy them again, which makes fusing a breeze, there's the SDTP which lets you swap demons amongst party members mid battle, etc. There are like 14 playable characters of characters, and you get access to like 80% of them early on. Storywise the game is really good, (I preferred DS1 though). I'd get it now if If you have the money.
Thanks for all that.

Originally Posted by Insaniac: View Post
well yeah I meant move fast, but I was more referring to my ability to hit and run before the enemy can recover.
I dig.
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This is a personal appeal from me:

Fighting CPUs is so dumb, please join our matches
Good games Gospel bro, you rocked!
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Good games Gospel bro, you rocked!
Yea man, so did you. Honestly, you're pretty good with that staff. Who taught you?

But yea, we should play again sometime soon.
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Originally Posted by Gospel: View Post
Yea man, so did you. Honestly, you're pretty good with that staff. Who taught you?

But yea, we should play again sometime soon.
I'll play with you tonight gospel :(
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Originally Posted by Insaniac: View Post
I'll play with you tonight gospel :(
My alarm is set!

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Good lord, he's cloned himself!
i got 500 errors everytime I refreshed on the submit post screen :^/
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Originally Posted by Gospel: View Post
My alarm is set
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I've got my alarm set!
Good lord, he's cloned himself!
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I don't get it.
Nub
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This thread is just a shell of its former self, figured i'd make a joke out of it.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
This thread is just a shell of its former self, just figured i'd make a joke out of it.
That tends to happen as games get older. ;-)

I am still desperate to find a way to cheat the system and get free items. -_-
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Uvnfgl.jpg[IMG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIA0GMNbt4A
It seems like just yesterday we were all barking like dogs and stuff.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Uvnfgl.jpg[IMG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIA0GMNbt4A
Please excuse my ignorance, but who's the person on the far left?
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil: View Post
Please excuse my ignorance, but who's the person on the far left?
Sakurai? It's hard to tell with the Xs.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but who's the person on the far left?
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It is a shell of its former self. It isn't like I don't play, but there's not this.

"Friend Orange light is flashing!"
"Who is it?"
"10 people playing! One hosting a game?"
"What? Madness! Join his game!"
"Oh no, Sir! The slots have filled up!"
"Gosh, this game is so popular. We'll just have to wait..."
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Originally Posted by Gospel: View Post
Good games Gospel bro, you rocked!
Poor Gospel, he lost his mind :(
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its honestly a damn shame, I feel like a lot of new people are gonna be put off by the steep learning curve and don't realize to look to the community OT for help and instead just shelve the game