[duckroll]

duckroll bringing the sales-age into ManGAF. You have a problem man, a problem!

Am I doing something wrong? I'm sorry if I offended anyone in manga-gaf. :(

[Glass Rebel]

Well it's not that weird, the previous animals went down very quickily. I want to see more of Ippo animated. Even if it's a special of movie. Dat quality. I think that's more plausible considering Mad House's busy schedule (HxH). Thank god I decided to read the manga, waiting for an another season would have killed me.

Those "animals" were just challengers though, not reigning champions.

Am I doing something wrong? I'm sorry if I offended anyone in manga-gaf. :(

No, no... it's alright. Better sales-age than smut-talk. I have only love for someone who likes Magi and FMA.

[kayos90]

Those "animals" were just challengers though, not reigning champions. No, no... it's alright. Better sales-age than smut-talk. I have only love for someone who likes Magi and FMA.

I never knew that ManGAF was smut talk. Ugh.

[Dedication Through Light]

Holy shit, dat anime boost for Blue Exorcist. I always wondered why it was so popular. Thanks duckroll.

Going the filler route must have helped hook people to the Manga. Though why didnt it work that well for Soul Eater..

[Thud]

Those "animals" were just challengers though, not reigning champions.

Ah, I thought Takamura already took three belts. Then I'll have to revise my opinion. Taking the belt will probably be a long match, defending it short.

Although Hawk was tougher to deal with than Eagle in my memory, which is logical considering the weight loss.

Btw, I liked FMA, wouldn't want a reread tho.

[survivor]

Taiyou no Ie 13

I found this very amusing for some reason. It also reminded me that there are 6 volumes out so far and the translations are still catching up.

Last chapter was out like in May so I forgot a lot of things. I think this is the first time Mao sees Radical with Hiro together cause she definitely was surprised. I guess that will complicate her relationship with Radical next time they meet. Daiki seemed to take a liking to Mao very fast, I thought we will get some arc where he is the antagonist and then he will start warming up to her.

No, no... it's alright. Better sales-age than smut-talk. I have only love for someone who likes Magi and FMA.

I like FMA and smut, are we cool?

[kayos90]

Taiyou no Ie 13 Last chapter was out like in May so I forgot a lot of things. I think this is the first time Mao sees Radical with Hiro together cause she definitely was surprised. I guess that will complicate her relationship with Radical next time they meet. Daiki seemed to take a liking to Mao very fast, I thought we will get some arc where he is the antagonist and then he will start warming up to her.

Looks/sounds interesting. What genre is this manga?

[scy]

No, no... it's alright. Better sales-age than smut-talk. I have only love for someone who likes Magi and FMA.

I like Magi and FMA but also shoujo and I guess I'm part of smut-gaf. What do?

I never knew that ManGAF was smut talk. Ugh.

The only consistent smut talk is Aunt Tits / Minamoto-kun Monogatari. I mean, I guess there's the occasional one but it's in passing usually.

Oh, TLRD too.

[survivor]

Looks/sounds interesting. What genre is this manga?

Good old shoujo.

Motomiya Mao is a High School student who has "lost a home" after her father gets married again. She starts to live with Nakamura Hiro, 23, who knows Mao since childhood. Since that time Mao spent all her free time with Hiro´s family and after his parents deaths, he´s waiting for the day when his brothers and Mao would once more live together.

If you are fine with the type of relationship they are going for then read it. It's been pretty fun romance manga so far.

[scy]

Good old shoujo. If you are fine with the type of relationship they are going for then read it. It's been pretty fun romance manga so far.

Thinking about it, the amount of shoujo I think I have with high school girl / 20-ish male pairings is astronomically high.

[El Sloth]

I approve of this sales talk. Brings variety of discussion into the thread and also happens to be very informative.

Thanks, Duckroll. Really fascinating stuff.

[scy]

I hope that doesn't happen again but it's HSDK so...

EATING MY WORDS ALREADY. HSDK 481 - "IS THE GOTH LOLI THE KEY TO YOMI?!" Fanservice battle ahead fanservice battle ahead.

I don't even think there'll be a master involved in this arc. Guess we'll finally see the other two Kensei recruits in action though. Maybe.

[kayos90]

Thinking about it, the amount of shoujo I think I have with high school girl / 20-ish male pairings is astronomically high.

Shoujo is win. I just started this one manga with a red haired snow white or something like that. It's... interesting.

[Phoenician_Viking]

Toriko

Get to the Gourmet world already. I love Zebra´s pet.

I can´t wait for next week´s one piece chapter. It´s going to be wawsome.

[survivor]

Shoujo is win. I just started this one manga with a red haired snow white or something like that. It's... interesting.

Akagami no Shirayukihime?

Give Seishun Kouryakuhon a read. It's by the same author, but much shorter and focused mostly on boys and their high school life.

[scy]

Give Seishun Kouryakuhon a read. It's by the same author, but much shorter and focused mostly on boys and their high school life.

I've been meaning to read that since you brought it up earlier. Guess now is as good a time as any~

[Dresden]

I never knew that ManGAF was smut talk. Ugh.

that we do.

[Eschaton]

Toriko 195




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...


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I want one.

[Diablos54]

Medaka Box 77:

Now that's what I call thinking on your feet, and Naze's minus was awesome. Kumagawa reading too much manga makes me laugh as well. I'm liking this more and more as I go along, fast paced, funny, good action and Kumagawa makes for good times.

[Brazil]

Onani Master Kurosawa 1-31 + ~After the Juvenile~

Amazing. 10/10.

[Thud]

Toriko 195 I want one.

You and me both, Bess.

Since the Century Soup arc ended, Toriko gained my full attention.

[Wiseblade]

Onani Master Kurosawa 1-31 + ~After the Juvenile~ Amazing. 10/10.

You know what this means...

[scy]

Skip Beat 186 - Bubblebath ... Tsuruga ... wut. Anyway, maybe FINALLY GETTING TO REN'S DARK SIDE PAST. It took 186 chapters but maybe she'll finally figure something out!

...lolno.

And then one-two skip a few etc. etc. caught up Skip Beat, up to 190 - Yup, love these little Shou/Ren showdowns. I guess Kijima is around too to add a third party (that will probably be irrelevant now) but whatever. The breakdown of Ren's "can't be with her" and Kyouko's "will never love" is starting to happen so, hey, maybe something will happen before Chapter 200. But I'm not expecting anything.

Also, random fanservice for Mimori. I guess it's appropriate but was that like the first fanservice shot in the entire manga? 189 chapters for it. Might be a record.

The shots of Kyouko's various looks over the course of the manga reminded me that, damn, I loved her look back during Dark Moon. The short-haired Mio look without the scar.

...though all her looks are good, just that shot in particular I guess.

[Urban Scholar]

So....

Ippo...

I'm so confused to the manga's direction with Aoki & Kimura. I mean they are vets were we barely see any real progress. They don't get a real focus when their matches come up and it's like second fiddle to the other guys. They feel like wasted material and I don't like that because they've been fleshed out and deserve more. Man someone give us our next Takamura fight to get super hyped about.

Naruto

So sauce is now second guess his revenge against the leaf? Ochi is back? Well glad the best villain is back to say the least.

One Piece

...it's going on break...sigh

Bleach

........I want more fights....



Zetsuen no Tempest

I don't know why but...I kinda like reading this...I don't know

[Glass Rebel]

I like FMA and smut, are we cool?

I like Magi and FMA but also shoujo and I guess I'm part of smut-gaf. What do?

We cool.

But I'm watching you fap.

[Defuser]

Beelzebub ch 164
Being Beelzebub, I expect something trollish about the painting.

[Brazil]

You know what this means... [IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibutvWlLKI5Pc1.jpg[IMG] [IMG]http://i.minus.com/iRKZ1dCuBIODp.png[IMG] [IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibpus7om4k0JdN.jpg[IMG] [IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibybhUxuxpSMuC.jpg[IMG] [IMG]http://i.minus.com/iNtqUnZmzHHkr.jpg[IMG] [IMG]http://i.minus.com/ivugIewczJnWe.jpg[IMG]

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[Thud]

I'm so reading Onani Master guys, thx ManGAF

[Finalow]

Ashita no Joe | v 8 - half of 9

Rikishi. :(

[Brazil]

I'm so reading Onani Master guys, thx ManGAF

Do it. It's genuinely good.

[Akito]

I'm so reading Onani Master guys, thx ManGAF

I wish I could read it for the first time again :(

Beelzebub
Now that was a hilarious chapter, though the little girl pissing herself was a little weird.
"I used the blunt side" lol

[Dresden]

Cool people read and appreciated Fap Master Cum Note years ago.

[Brazil]

Cool people read and appreciated Fap Master Cum Note years ago.

I never took you for a hipster!

[survivor]

Beelzebub

Maybe the painting is a naked self portrait of the Demon Lord

[Thud]

Well you can never cum too late huh.

Beelzebub 164

That black butlerapprentice girl from HxH turned demon or something ...

Piss and poo jokes, yeah no.

And a short but fun battle, decent.

[Haly]

I never took you for a hispter!

Are you kidding, dres is the hippest, like one of those tribal fertility idols.

[Phoenician_Viking]

Do it. It's genuinely good.

Only the first half though. The second half and ending i thought were bad.

[Glass Rebel]

rofl return to form

[gundamkyoukai]

I don't think you really understand what I'm saying. When you spend 4800yen, you can get a Ghibli or Evangelion movie on DVD. That gives you 2 hours of entertainment, and you don't have to spend another cent to continue watching more. These go on to sell 800k to over a million copies. That shows that there are a million people willing to buy something to watch if they feel it is not unreasonable.

It also shows you that more people are will to buy a movie than series which is the norm .
Price may be a factor but that is not the only reason plus no other anime sells any where near Ghibli or Evangelion movies even if they price the same .
Most of them also don't fall into the family category of Ghibli movies also .

The best selling TV anime on DVD/BD can't even hit 100k per volume. There is no doubt that a major factor behind that is that you have to spend over 6800yen to get 60 minutes (3 episodes) on average. The justification just isn't there.

Once again you are trying to compare buying a TV series to a movie saying price is the major factor when there are other reasons .
All you have to do is look at USA tv shows they are price okay but they don't sell any where near movies because the buying habits are not the same for people .
Plus with Japan people have small places collecting series is even a bigger deal along with other factors .

When the TV anime is more effective as a glorified advertising model for a manga, than as a product which can sell a ton of copies to support itself, I think there is definitely a sign that the way anime is being made and sold is problematic. The unfortunate fact is that the business model has been in place for so long, and defines the industry so much, that it is too much of a risk for any existing company to want to take the initiative to try and change. The people who are losing out the most here are the consumers, since it limits their choices to either not supporting shows they like, or paying unreasonable prices to own home copies.

The thing is anime has been that way since the bubble burst in the early 90's in Japan.
When a anime is made most of the time it's to sell manga , light novels , games , toy etc etc if does not effect any of that those we only going to get sequel is base on dvd\blu ray sales.
Now the thing is in Japan anime does not have to sell a huge amount of copies to supports it's self because the price are so high .
Lowering the price might get more people to buy but they question is how much more are going to buy tv series at a lower price .
The last thing you want is to lower the price to get more people to buy and it does not work and you end up like NA anime industry .

To use a gaming saying you want anime companies to run after COD money ( COD being Ghibli ) when lower there price don't mean they going to get any where the sales.
Another problem anime has is how Japanese TV work , they have to pay to show there anime which can cost thousands of yen .

[Kreed]

Am I doing something wrong? I'm sorry if I offended anyone in manga-gaf. :(

If anyone is actually offended by you posting useful information in this thread then they are the ones doing something wrong.

[El Sloth]

Wiseblade, do you have some sort of script running to alert you to all mentions of Onani Master Kurosawa on GAF?

Are you kidding, dres is the hippest, like one of those tribal fertility idols.

This explains so much.


He's looking for sacrificial virgins!

[Thud]

I'm reading it right now, comedy gold.

[Glass Rebel]

Come the fuck on, there's gotta be a way to read JoJo from part 4 onwards without relying on asstastic scanlations.

[Thud]

Come the fuck on, there's gotta be a way to read JoJo from part 4 onwards without relying on asstastic scanlations.

No, there's not. Better use a stand to ignore it.

[Phoenician_Viking]

Beelzebub

Yes. It was a very funny chapter. That Zen stance cracked me up a lot.

At what chapter Medaka anime stops? I just want to continue reading.

[Angry Grimace]

Come the fuck on, there's gotta be a way to read JoJo from part 4 onwards without relying on asstastic scanlations.

[Brazil]

Only the first half though. The second half and ending i thought were bad.

No way. I enjoyed it in its entirety.

The first half is very different from the second, but they're both good.

[scy]

Taiyou no Ie 1-13 - It's cute. The co-worker is still kind of a surprise. In the whole "first 3D guy she liked lol" bit and ... yeah.

Also, sad girls make me sad. And Mao is almost always sad.

[Glass Rebel]

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

[duckroll]

The thing is anime has been that way since the bubble burst in the early 90's in Japan. When a anime is made most of the time it's to sell manga , light novels , games , toy etc etc if does not effect any of that those we only going to get sequel is base on dvd\blu ray sales. Now the thing is in Japan anime does not have to sell a huge amount of copies to supports it's self because the price are so high . Lowering the price might get more people to buy but they question is how much more are going to buy tv series at a lower price . To use a gaming saying you want anime companies to run after COD money ( COD being Ghibli ) when lower there price don't mean they going to get any where the sales. Another problem anime has is how Japanese TV work , they have to pay to show there anime which can cost thousands of yen .

That shows that you understand that the business model is flawed, and that it only exists the way it does because it is a measure companies have become comfortable with as a means to make the most money out of a smaller user base. That is precisely why the model is broken.

I don't think you'll find any argument from me that there is a good reason why it is this way. Everything you mentioned, I am aware of. That doesn't mean it is a healthy model or one which is good for consumers or fans. It is bad for pretty much everyone involved, but it happens to be stable enough in this smaller bubble to continue to make enough money for the industry to just continue existing.

But the point is that if there is a complete upheaval of how the anime industry works, it CAN be better. Sure the entire industry could also fail and cease to exist, and that risk is why none of the major players are particularly interested in changing how it works.

My opinion when it comes to improving the health of the industry is not just to lower the price. I'm simply stating that the price of TV anime is the main barrier of entry for consumers. It is the factor that affects consumers who are interested into getting into buying anime the most. This is why it is a tiny market compared to everything else.

In order to be able to make money off anime and to also sell it at reasonable prices, it would require a complete rethink of how the business works. The reason why they have to pay to get most anime on air is because the majority of TV anime airs at ungodly hours with poor ratings and no ad value whatsoever. So unless sponsors agree to pay for that ad time that the show will air in, stations are less willing to bother co-producing the show. The reason for this is also directly because of the small market that anime has carved out for itself.

This is far from the ideal situation, hence the business model even though it works for getting a return on investment, is broken. If anime had a totally different appeal, and is seen a mainstream and normal industry like manga where anyone who is interested can watch stuff at reasonable hours, and if they want to buy the DVD/BDs they are not sold in ridiculous ways which only hardcore fans would accept, then it would also be more attractive to air anime with normal advertising, and for stations to co-produce anime series without having ridiculous pre-conditions.

That's all I'm saying. I don't think it will happen, and I do think it is very unrealistic that it will change anytime soon, but I definitely don't think it is a normal thing to look at the industry and say that the business model is not broken, because it is.