[jump_button]

I recall seeing some where they maybe 4 new IP 2 will be at E3 from Big N i can only hope

[Krev]

Definitely a Miiyamoto. Just to temper expectations, it could be that Edge just have a Miyamoto interview planned, which wouldn't necessarily reveal any new Wii U info.

Edge teases are normally for the big cover story. A run of the mill Miyamoto interview would not be the main story for the issue. Besides, isn't he a bit busy to be doing a simple interview for the sake of an interview right now?

The issue should be arriving for subscribers in the first week of May. The timing is too alligned with the investor meeting for me to think it's not related to what they'll be showing there.

(Not the cover from that issue, but still a good one.) Here's the early one:

Edge covers used to be so great.

[Smiles and Cries]

It looks like the same Miyamoto Mii we've seen for the last 6 years. Here it is from 5 years ago.

wow never seen that version, I guess the fans did a better job

[Sadist]

I think a Far Cry 3 port is pretty likely. I hope so, augmented reality would be cool. Oxx posted a photo in the Edge thread.

Ah thanks. Hmmm... interesting.

[IdeaMan]

i know i'm late to the figurative party (more like emo fest) but i want to say that i appreciated Ideaman's info. simply because he didn't pussyfoot around with it and he DID still stress that this wasn't official (for lack of better words). but it wasn't straight simplistic BS like those 2 anon developers. it's amazing how negative everyone is (especially the media) toward Nintendo and their success. it's funny how u have a company that still believes in having fun in games that doesn't involve shooting people up or hacking people into a bloody pulp. but because they don't do that and for other exaggerated, sometimes made up reasons, they get crapped on. even when we know almost NOTHING about the console accept for small details. i didn't go through all of the post because it would've just pissed me off, but Ideaman, thank you. if u don't come back around, i don't blame u. i hope to see you around E3 when everyone is jumping on the Wii U bandwagon ; )

thanks lol, i'm still here, and your message is comforting and avoid me to drink a bottle of wine to drown my sorrow of being doubted by beloved gafers (another french stereotype i guess ?).

But we should thanks every contributors in these threads really, everyone bring something interesting to the table. My over-the-top way to present my information, my teases, my avatar, draw more of the attention and the thanks to me, but a lot of people around here are posting very informative data, opinions, hindsights, and deserve at least the same :)

[Apophis2036]

Okay, but the number I was wondering about was the 3GB devkit memory assertion. I don't remember that at all.

That was my bad, i thought someone said 1.5GB would be in the final retail console as the dev kit had 3GB and they halved it for release.

[IdeaMan]

*sob* yeah, Ideaman basically confirmed to me a couple pages back that the amount of OS reserved RAM was at least 512 MB. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...ostcount=15078

I've always added "background thingies/apps" after OS though. There's a huge amount of memory from which developers can't tap on for their games, and it's not for debugging purposes. And from what my sources told me, it's the OS + applications and other features running in background. Some have summed that up by the word "OS", but it's not only the future Wii U visual operating system that is involved, it's features, etc. And the amount could surely evolve.

Basically, Nintendo told developers: you have X amount of RAM on the system
From this X
You can use Y amount for what you are developing
And there's a X - Y = Z amount, an imprint, a space, reserved for other things, that you can't access for your games.

- This Z can change
- This may be a way to simplify development, to not allow for the moment studios to draw from a part of the Z amount not used for all the OS/Background layer that they are still building and optimizing. Like "we don't know how much room our software background features will take, so let's decide that we reserve Z of the total memory for that, you don't care about it, and you just use Y, ok ?"
- With optimizations, with a freedom given to developers to activate or not some features running at the same time as their games, the final Z amount could vary, and there could be a transfer of memory between Z and Y, depending on what functions you want or not. But for the moment, this transfer is not possible.
- This could be a hint toward resources-heavy features.

[Krev]

We interrupt your regular programming to present Edge's June 2006 cover.

[lordfroakie]

investor meeting hype rising... I'm finally done exams, so I now have a bunch of free time. Anyone interested in a E3 2004 Nintendo press conference stream? What's a good time/day for everyone?

Friday or Saturday

[Rösti]

About 14.85 hours until PAX East begins. While I'm not expecting Nintendo to demonstrate Wii U at their booth, it's going to be interesting to know their excuse for not bringing the console. Questions about it, due to PAX East being a public event, are inevitable. Though anything could happen.

http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/pax/resources/...2_Expo_Map.pdf

[Sadist]

EDGE console/handheld issues are pretty cool. I have the 3DS and Wii U ones from last year.

[Linkhero1]

investor meeting hype rising... I'm finally done exams, so I now have a bunch of free time. Anyone interested in a E3 2004 Nintendo press conference stream? What's a good time/day for everyone?

I have exams that week =/

I would love a E3 2004 Nintendo stream.

Edit: Saturday evening (PST) for me

[IdeaMan]

In this last response he made, he made the remark that his definition of "so huge" corresponded to my definition in my first post. But then he editted it.

Just to clarify, the editing that you're referring to is not a super secret revealed then i retracted myself. It was a bad attempt at a joke involving over-use of "that".
Like: "the that huge that i talk is more that the that huge of this post, but correspond to the other that huge of your former post, it's that huge"
I think i added after "ok, i'm tired", to emphasize the poor quality of my pun.

Note for later: "that-jokes" are bad

[Krev]

I'm excited that it seems Nintendo are going to get details out before E3. I guess Reggie wasn't lying about that after all!
If the system is being renamed, we'll know in a few weeks. Like the early Wii title announcement, it would give third parties time to adjust their marketing materials for E3.

About 14.85 hours until PAX East begins. While I'm not expecting Nintendo to demonstrate Wii U at their booth, it's going to be interesting to know their excuse for not bringing the console. Questions about it, due to PAX East being a public event, are inevitable. Though anything could happen. http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/pax/resources/...2_Expo_Map.pdf

"Nintendo does not comment on rumours or speculation."

[-Pyromaniac-]

"Nintendo does not comment on rumours or speculation."

pfft that's Sony's line

[VAPitts]

thanks lol, i'm still here, and your message is comforting and avoid me to drink a bottle of wine to drown my sorrow of being doubted by beloved gafers (another french stereotype i guess ?). But we should thanks every contributors in these threads really, everyone bring something interesting to the table. My over-the-top way to present my information, my teases, my avatar, draw more of the attention and the thanks to me, but a lot of people around here are posting very informative data, opinions, hindsights, and deserve at least the same :)

your right lol. thanks again. i know your info is nonetheless on topic and helpful. unlike post like this:

I think everybody knows that but Nintendo.

doubtful, negative, annoying and troll-like. that doesn't help in ANY way whatsoever but just keep BS flowing like a river.

[ElFly]

So I guess that Halo 4 is coming to the Wii U.

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

So I guess that Halo 4 is coming to the Wii U.

Matt Cassamassina needs to come back to confirm this.

[Aaron Strife]

Your dream brings up an opinion I've been nuturing, WiiRevolution. I want to see the NSMB series get the axe, at least in it's current form. It always seemed like a cheapening of the SMB brand. The first one on the DS was great in itself. But along with Animal Crossing, they sort of ported both of the series under our noses, expecting the typical Wii consumer not to notice. It just felt so underhanded, that they would try to resell a very similar experience like that. NSMB is a very generic offshoot, and NSMB Mii only looks to make it even more so, IMO. I mean, look at Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. That is the kind of change and creativity I would like to see. So yes, I would love to see cel-shading for the next installment. Not this plastic and characterless style. The gameplay is good, sure. But ehhh... Anyways, just my small rant. I respect your opinion if you like it, as I speak for myself here.

I lost you at insinuating the Wii NSMB is the same as the DS version. It has a similar artstyle and is a 2D Mario game and that's about the extent of that.

And judging by the fact that the DS and Wii games sold over 20 million copies each, it's not going anywhere.

[AceBandage]

Interesting that Edge would tease a Miyamoto Mii.
I doubt its Tomadachi Collection so an interview is likely. And its not unreasonable to expect Wii U teases.

[Krev]

Interesting that Edge would tease a Miyamoto Mii. I doubt its Tomadachi Collection so an interview is likely. And its not unreasonable to expect Wii U teases.

Tomodachi Collection crossed my mind. That would be a hilarious twist. If it were that game, shouldn't it be a Sakamoto Mii?
But let's be real, there's no way a Tomodachi Collection localization, or even sequel, would be Edge's cover story.

On another note, it's utterly insane that Nintendo never brought it to America.

[TheCongressman1]

I lost you at insinuating the Wii NSMB is the same as the DS version. It has a similar artstyle and is a 2D Mario game and that's about the extent of that.

Yeah, they are completely different games. I do agree about the style though. It's pretty lifeless. They need to change that.

[Father_Brain]

On another note, it's utterly insane that Nintendo never brought it to America.

The game was largely designed around voice synthesis, which works far better for a purely phonetic language like Japanese. Same reason why Tetra's Trackers was removed from Four Swords Adventures on Gamecube, IIRC.

[Agent Unknown]

Sorry if this has already been asked but why on earth was herzogzwei1989 banned?

And why are we possibly expecting more info soon (assuming we're not talking about the Investor's meeting)

[HylianTom]

I'm excited that it seems Nintendo are going to get details out before E3.

Same here. Looks like Smies and Cries' countdown is for reals! Fo' sho! Fo' sho!

HYPE!

[VAPitts]

Sorry if this has already been asked but why on earth was herzogzwei1989 banned? And why are expecting more info soon (assuming we're not talking about the Investor's meeting)

well i'm not gonna say i know for sure, but what i do know is if u read his posts up to when he was banned, the guy was basically asking for new info every post. he was like a junkie feenin for dope. poor guy, he's obsessed with it.

[Oddduck]

I recall seeing some where they maybe 4 new IP 2 will be at E3 from Big N i can only hope

The exact quote said there would be at least 3 new IP's from Nintendo at E3.

[TunaLover]

Can these 512MB of RAM for the OS be accessed by games? Or are they reserved?

[Hiltz]

Nintendo will probably just bring the same tech demos if Wii U is present at PAX. That is, assuming the Big N is attending the event.

[cyberheater]

Sorry if this has already been asked but why on earth was herzogzwei1989 banned? And why are expecting more info soon (assuming we're not talking about the Investor's meeting)

Was he/she also known as Camminet (spelling)?

[Linkhero1]

Can these 512MB of RAM for the OS be accessed by games? Or are they reserved?

I believe IdeaMan said they're reserved for the OS at this point.

[DragonSworne]

Wii U is going to have just as much RAM for the OS as PS3 and Xbox360 have for the whole system?

Wow

[daCuk]

Nintendo will probably just bring the same tech demos if Wii U is present at PAX. That is, assuming the Big N is attending the event.

Most probably it won't show anything about WiiU

[TunaLover]

I believe IdeaMan said they're reserved for the OS at this point.

I though you could access to that reserved RAM if you are in the game, since menu functions aren't used. If they are indeed reserved I think Nintendo will make multitasking, for example showing a "gamefaq" in the subscreen while playing a game, or speaking with friends online while playing, etc...

[BY2K]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469055

So THAT'S how Ubermatik got banned. Somewhere in there.

[Linkhero1]

I though you could access to that RAM if you are in the game, since menu functions aren't used.

That I'm not sure of. I think some people were speculating that you might have access to the OS on the Wii U Pad while in game.

[TheCongressman1]

I though you could access to that RAM if you are in the game, since menu functions aren't used.

This is what I was thinking as well.

[Hoo-doo]

Sorry if this has already been asked but why on earth was herzogzwei1989 banned? And why are we possibly expecting more info soon (assuming we're not talking about the Investor's meeting)

He went a bit crazy in the rumor threads. Double posting with bolded, all-caps sentences and giant images.

[Dreamwriter]

About 14.85 hours until PAX East begins. While I'm not expecting Nintendo to demonstrate Wii U at their booth, it's going to be interesting to know their excuse for not bringing the console. Questions about it, due to PAX East being a public event, are inevitable. Though anything could happen. http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/pax/resources/...2_Expo_Map.pdf

How about the fact that they only have like 10 demo stations that they hand-made for last year's E3, and those 10 stations would have 6 hour long lines, with demos not representative of final games? It's not like they'd be bringing brand new stations with brand new demos, that kind of stuff is rarely shown off at PAX, and never by Nintendo. PAX isn't seen by developers as a media announcement event.

[BY2K]

How about the fact that they only have like 10 demo stations that they hand-made for last year's E3, and those 10 stations would have 6 hour long lines, with demos not representative of final games? It's not like they'd be bringing brand new stations with brand new demos, that kind of stuff is rarely shown off at PAX, and never by Nintendo. PAX isn't seen by developers as a media announcement event.

Some do.

Wasn't Duke Nukem Forever in its final form revealed at PAX?

[Agent Unknown]

He went a bit crazy in the rumor threads. Double posting with bolded, all-caps sentences and giant images.

Ah, bummer. Any idea if it was a perma?

Was he/she also known as Camminet (spelling)?

Yep.

[HylianTom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469055 So THAT'S how Ubermatik got banned. Somewhere in there.

Nope.. he made a Wii U rumor parody thread. It was pretty deliberate. Damn shame.

[Rösti]

Nintendo will probably just bring the same tech demos if Wii U is present at PAX. :(

Any Wii U demonstrations at PAX East would be interesting, as that would be the first time the system is available to the public. When I come to think about it, the roadmap of Wii U news is rather similar to that of Nintendo Revolution/Wii:

Nintendo Revolution/Wii

GDC 2005: Mr. Iwata gives a keynote and talks a bit about Nintendo Revolution, announcing hardware partners and some Wi-fi details.

E3 2005: Nintendo Revolution is unveiled. Not much is revealed apart from the Virtual Console and that the controller will be very special, and also that when you turn on Revolution and see the graphics, you will say, "Wow".

Tokyo Game Show 2005: The remote controller for Nintendo Revolution is unveiled, eight demos available.

May 2006: The first Wii game, Red Steel, is shown in the May issue of Game Informer.

Wii U

April 25th, 2011: Following heavy rumors about Project Café, Nintendo issues a press release stating that a new system will be released in 2012, and that a playable model will be shown at E3 2011: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110425_4e.pdf

E3 2011: Wii U is unveiled, people are confused and hilarity ensues when people think footage of Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 games looks worse than something for the same systems.

CES 2012: Wii U is demonstrated, the Panorama demo is available. Reggie gives some interviews.

For Wii U we've been given some details through IR events as well and now we are digging through the heaps of developer comments that have stirred up the pot really, but I don't remember the radio silence being this severe between TGS 2005 and E3 2006.

Where PAX East will most likely fail to provide anything new, the IR event on the 26th of April will surely succeed. And maybe some kind of reveal will take place in the next issue of Game Informer/Edge etc., as suggested previously in this thread.

[DragonSworne]

NIntendo needs a catch phrase leading up to E3.

With the Wii, they had "you will say wow". Nintendo should reuse it or something just as catchy.

[Redford]

I lost you at insinuating the Wii NSMB is the same as the DS version. It has a similar artstyle and is a 2D Mario game and that's about the extent of that. And judging by the fact that the DS and Wii games sold over 20 million copies each, it's not going anywhere.

Edit: Didn't mean to insinuate direct port. But it's not a paradigm shift either, at least in my humble opinion.

And that's a shame.

[Dreamwriter]

Some do. Wasn't Duke Nukem Forever in its final form revealed at PAX?

Yeah, that's why I said it was rarely done, not never done :) And technically Duke had been shown off before that point, just not playable.

[cyberheater]

Ah, bummer. Any idea if it was a perma? Yep.

Thanks. I thought it was that person.

[-Pyromaniac-]

E3 2005: Nintendo Revolution is unveiled. Not much is revealed apart from the Virtual Console and that the controller will be very special, and also that when you turn on Revolution and see the graphics, you will say, "Wow".

lol...

[DragonSworne]

It certainly isn't much different. And that's a shame.

Have you actually playes NSMBWii???? I don't think you have.

[cyberheater]

lol...

Well I know I did when I first saw it.