[AceBandage]

They're called rumors. Just as valid as anything you'll read in this thread.

Slightly less, actually. Since we can actually verify people on GAF.
:P

[HylianTom]

Yeah, it was a shame to see it go. I can't remember it ever being anything but friendly. Oh, and it changed the course of my life completely.

Hmm.. how so?

Crazy idea: I would love if the Wii U came with its own revived Nsider forums channel.

(Side note: reading through the last page or two, I had to restrain myself from posting over and over again things like, "YES" and "Agree 110%!" The Ninthings around here really "get" each other, it seems. Quite a community.

[CoffeeJanitor]

Slightly less, actually. Since we can actually verify people on GAF. :P

Uh huh. You keep believing that buddy. Keep it up.

[Redford]

Hmm.. how so? Crazy idea: I would love if the Wii U came with its own revived Nsider forums channel.

Met my girlfriend of 6 years on there. Am now living across the country after LDRing for 4 of those 6. Say what you want about LDRs, but I couldn't be happier.

/brag

Edit: Yes, that would be awesome, even though I'd still use GAF heavily. Nintendo needs a community hub.

[Diablos54]

Uh huh. You keep believing that buddy. Keep it up.

Why would the mods lie?

[HylianTom]

Met my girlfriend of 6 years on there. Am now living across the country after LDRing for 4 of those 6. Say what you want about LDRs, but I couldn't be happier. /brag

Wow. Bra-vo. Quite a catch!
(and I had to do the LDR thing for a while earlier on. It can definitely work.)

[Azure J]

So I'm guessing this is a move to get Nintendo to say something, right? I didn't even know there was another thread up already. :lol

[TheCongressman1]

Crazy idea: I would love if the Wii U came with its own revived Nsider forums channel.

That's not crazy, it's amazing.

[BD1]

I truly believe Nintendo is making its best effort to get third party support on Wii U. Iwata has been openly talking about the need to have a huge "western" hit on their platforms, specifically Call of Duty and full fledged Madden. I also think they he might be hedging his bets that it won't come.

Iwata's comments are often layered, and there is no doubt in my mind, Nintendo wants a huge, "Western" IP that they publish and is exclusive. A game that ignites US sales charts the way many of their Japan-Only games do over there. And the evidence is mounting that Nintendo is bolstering it's western development. Retro is staffing up for a masterpiece. NST is in full on revival mode. Rumors that Silicon Knights is back in the fold. Ken Tanabe was very forthcoming about Nintendo finding western devs and handing them projects.

Nintendo's development footprint is going to be huge.

[Redford]

Speaking of which, after Wii U is out could we make an OT in Community?

[AceBandage]

Uh huh. You keep believing that buddy. Keep it up.

GAF is pretty strict about people to claim to be "insiders". Meanwhile, game journalists will publish any two bit rumor or story, regardless of how credible (see the recent Vita game debacle).

[HylianTom]

That's not crazy, it's amazing.

Thanks. I mean, it'd be an incredible way to build community. It's pretty obvious that many Nintendo fans are kindred folk. Now imagine one easily-accessible place to congregate. Miis as avatars, accomplishments on your profile page, contests, challenges, mass marathons, live airings of "Let's Play" videos that are viewable via your TV or the uPad, etc.

Admittedly, I've never really been enthralled with online gaming. I'm naturally very weary of it, with the sense that many devs focus on multi-player and think that gimping the single-player mode is somehow more acceptable. But if Nintendo were to go down this kind of community path, I'd be all-aboard.

[Bagu]

Has this been posted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG...0aFAAAAAAAAGAA

[lordfroakie]

Speaking of which, after Wii U is out could we make an OT in Community?

I'm in charge of non OT community :)

[snowdog1971]

First thread. Lherre told us the dev kits normally have twice the amount of memory as the retail version for debugging. He also said at least 2GB. Nintendo's own target specs said up to 1.5GB so that's how we got 3GB.

I'm convinced we're going to end up with 2GB of DDR3 by the time it launches with the eDRAM on the CPU and GPU taking care of any bottlenecking issues. That would be four chips unless I'm mistaken..? That would give the final dev kits 4GB of DDR3 with 8 chips.

And when it happens you can all say, "Bloody hell, the Snowdog was bang on the money!!!". :OP

[tkscz]

Has this been posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG...0aFAAAAAAAAGAA

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

[Redford]

I'm in charge of non OT community :)

Whoa, really? :P Link?

[guek]

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

nooooooooooooooooooooo...

[bgassassin]

I'm convinced we're going to end up with 2GB of DDR3 by the time it launches with the eDRAM on the CPU and GPU taking care of any bottlenecking issues. That would be four chips unless I'm mistaken..? That would give the final dev kits 4GB of DDR3 with 8 chips. And when it happens you can all say, "Bloody hell, the Snowdog was bang on the money!!!". :OP

LOL. But yeah that would be 4-4Gbit DDR3 chips.

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

What guek said. That definitely does not need a thread.

[lordfroakie]

Whoa, really? :P Link?

Uh, system hasnt been released yet. Wait 3-6 months until OT is up :p

[IceDoesntHelp]

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

lol, please don't.

[Bagu]

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

I'm not into blatant troll baiting

[USC-fan]

Has this been posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG...0aFAAAAAAAAGAA

This guy doesnt have a clue what he is talking about. RSX is based on the 7900 gt. No way in this world the wiiu has a 4850, thats a 110w card. The ps3 card at launch[rsx] was 80w card and look how large the ps3 launch system was. Then he puts in the hd4770 which is a 73W card... like this is the worst case...lol. Wow.

Just setting people up for disappointment.

[lordfroakie]

Make a thread about it, no seriously, make a thread about it.

No more "he/she said wiiu spec" threads please -_-

[HylianTom]

This thread has been quite lovely today. Good debate, good discussion, good reminiscing, good prognostications.

Threads about the Wii U, I've noticed, tend to encourage trolls into here. And all of that good stuff gets supplanted.

[Redford]

Uh, system hasnt been released yet. Wait 3-6 months until OT is up :p

Oh, I see what you meant. Didn't think I missed it, haha. :P

Excite.

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

Uh huh. You keep believing that buddy. Keep it up.

Don't the mods have an oath of some sort not to share any info shared privately with them? Or am I crazy?

If true, if a mod verifies someone as an insider, I'd take their word for it more than any game journalist.

[Glorified G]

Has this been posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG...0aFAAAAAAAAGAA

lol. Why is he comparing pc parts? Does he have any idea that everything will end up being customized?

[antonz]

lol. Why is he comparing pc parts? Does he have any idea that everything will end up being customized?

Because you have to break down as simple as possible for people on these forums. Half of gaf loves to pretend it knows anything about technology while knowing as much as a 2 year old.

PC stats are obviously not very effective since everything that goes into consoles gets crazy customized. But you can at least generally get a baseline performance because 99% of the time improvements are made to make the gpus better not worse.

[Redford]

Threads about the Wii U, I've noticed, tend to encourage trolls into here. And all of that good stuff gets supplanted.

We don't have too many intruders though, except for EvilDick of course, and maybe a handful of other drive-bys.

Not that I'm opposed to different opinions, but "Nintendo doesn't do x" can only be so constructive for so long.

---

I also like how we have two shifts in here: tech guys come in for a few hours and discuss, then the dreamers/philosophers among us pick up after that. ;P

[AceBandage]

We don't have too many intruders though, except for EvilDick of course, and maybe a handful of other drive-bys. Not that I'm opposed to different opinions, but "Nintendo doesn't do x" can only be so constructive for so long. --- I also like how we have two shifts in here: tech guys come in for a few hours and discuss, then the dreamers/philosophers among us pick up after that. ;P

And then we have me. The one that makes you all crazy.
WHOO! TIME SPLITERS 4! GONNA ROCK!

[bgassassin]

We don't have too many intruders though, except for EvilDick of course, and maybe a handful of other drive-bys.

One of them got banned awhile back for a comment made in this thread.

[Grampa Simpson]

Good job on the thread BY2K. I'd really rather see it come out of here than more randomly. Also, the more threads, the more time the Wii U spends on the front page.

[CoffeeJanitor]

Why would the mods lie?

Why would you believe anything posted on a gaming message board over an actual gaming industry news source?

[antonz]

Why would you believe anything posted on a gaming message board over an actual gaming industry news source?

Well if we wanna get that Technical there is only 1 game industry news site on the Internet that has consistently been accurate about Nintendo Hardware to the point people were ready to crucify them when they leaked Wii specs.

And its so far claiming specs quite different then the weaker than 360 derp derp sites

[Door2Dawn]

Has this been posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG...0aFAAAAAAAAGAA

Way too techie for me. Translation please?

[-Pyromaniac-]

Why would you believe anything posted on a gaming message board over an actual gaming industry news source?

lol for the past few months sites have even been citing this very thread as news.

Why is some random developer more credible than developers that post here (like lherre). You're trying too hard to denounce this place.

[AceBandage]

Way too techie for me. Translation please?

Translation: He doesn't really know any more than we do.

[lordfroakie]

Way too techie for me. Translation please?

Translation: "Im just a stupid youtube guy using pc parts as Wiiu spec evidence"

[CoffeeJanitor]

Well if we wanna get that Technical there is only 1 game industry news site on the Internet that has consistently been accurate about Nintendo Hardware to the point people were ready to crucify them when they leaked Wii specs. And its so far claiming specs quite different then the weaker than 360 derp derp sites

lol for the past few months sites have even been citing this very thread as news. Why is some random developer more credible than developers that post here (like lherre). You're trying too hard to denounce this place.

I don't have a horse in this race. I just think that this is all speculation. I hope it ends up being decently powerful, but at the same time the current rumor mill is full of conflicting sources. So I don't think that anything said in should be viewed as fact, or viewed as a better source than any of the random sites that have been reporting nonsense.

[Redford]

Translation: He doesn't really know any more than we do.

Is there anything with it that is glaringly wrong? Or is the only faux-pas the fact he's using PC parts?

[bgassassin]

Revisiting real quick that Li Mu Bai post that StevieP quoted earlier, he left out one key section that I don't think I saw talked about (I skimmed through most of the posts after that).

Nintendo did make certain alterations to their gpu based upon various 3rd party input, a first. Usually, they tend to develop their gpus & platforms with just simply ATI/Nintendo engineering, consultation, & guidance. Designed around their evolving software strengths, & "the natural flow of the industry."-Genyo Takeda Yes, I am referring to all those benchmark tests Nintendo ran on 3rd party engines for optimization on Wii U hardware.

[-Pyromaniac-]

I don't have a horse in this race. I just think that this is all speculation. I hope it ends up being decently powerful, but at the same time the current rumor mill is full of conflicting sources. So I don't think that anything said in should be viewed as fact, or viewed as a better source than any of the random sites that have been reporting nonsense.

well that goes without saying, although I think there are credible people out there, I agree that it's pointless to paint any factual pictures on the overall scope, because really no one knows but nintendo at this point. Well nintendo and other huge developers who won't dare say a word.

[bgassassin]

I don't have a horse in this race. I just think that this is all speculation. I hope it ends up being decently powerful, but at the same time the current rumor mill is full of conflicting sources. So I don't think that anything said in should be viewed as fact, or viewed as a better source than any of the random sites that have been reporting nonsense.

I don't really think they are conflicting. They all seem to be pointing toward the same thing IMO.

[-Pyromaniac-]

Revisiting real quick that Li Mu Bai post that StevieP quoted earlier, he left out one key section that I don't think I saw talked about (I skimmed through most of that posts after that).

I didn't see that, sounds great. And who else would they possibly listen to other than Epic and Crytek. So they should be OK engine wise assuming they did enough to appease them.

[CoffeeJanitor]

well that goes without saying, although I think there are credible people out there, I agree that it's pointless to paint any factual pictures on the overall scope, because really no one knows but nintendo at this point. Well nintendo and other huge developers who won't dare say a word.

I don't really think they are conflicting. They all seem to be pointing toward the same thing IMO.

Don't disagree. It just bugs me because I see a lot of posts denouncing all of those articles that have been popping up lately, how it doesn't match up with what has been said in here, etc

[AceBandage]

Revisiting real quick that Li Mu Bai post that StevieP quoted earlier, he left out one key section that I don't think I saw talked about (I skimmed through most of that posts after that).

At first? Does that mean they decided to scrap it all later? I doubt that.
Interesting...

[guek]

Is there anything with it that is glaringly wrong? Or is the only faux-pas the fact he's using PC parts?

Well a couple things - namely the fact that the rv770 is just a very common widespread rumor, not confirmed, and that the cpu is going to be ppc7 based, not an actual ppc7. With that in mind, there'a ton of leeway from one end of the spectrum to the other as to what the parts will end up being. It can't be stressed enough that these are custom parts, not generic PC parts, so more powerful and less powerful chips are both possible.

[-Pyromaniac-]

At first? Does that mean they decided to scrap it all later? I doubt that. Interesting...

it says A first. As in the first time they've done such a thing. READING COMPREHENSION BRO.

[Linkhero1]

At first? Does that mean they decided to scrap it all later? I doubt that. Interesting...

A first. I read it as at first too.

Revisiting real quick that Li Mu Bai post that StevieP quoted earlier, he left out one key section that I don't think I saw talked about (I skimmed through most of that posts after that).

I remember reading something like this a while back. Can't wait to see all this progression at E3.