[Hero]

At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.

[-Pyromaniac-]

All this "bad news"(whether real or made up) bodes rather well for Nintendo. It's going to make E3 that much more dramatic. Think the first time you played that early level of Donkey Kong Country, going from the rainy darkness to the full on sunshine.

it's hard to get out of that gaming forum mindstate where we follow every tiny bit of news that comes out, but in the bigger picture, once E3 hits everything is usually forgotten if it's a good show. But of course if it's a bad one then the rest of this year will be horrid.

At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.

nintendo seems to be holding a lot of people back, less than 2 more monthssss.

[Diablos54]

How do you jump to such wild conclusions based on such generalized statements?

Did you not read the username? :p

[Sadist]

How do you jump to such wild conclusions based on such generalized statements?

NateDrake, meet BurntPork. BurntPork, meet NateDrake ^_^

[IceDoesntHelp]

At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.

So...E3?

[AceBandage]

And now I'm positive that Wii U's online will be no different than 3DS beyond there being multiple accounts on a console. :/ And their relationship with Capcom is WAAAAAAAAAY better than with Rockstar, so if we base it on that, the conversation went like this: Reggie: "We'd like GTAV on Wii U." R*: *calls security without a word*

Dude. This is a big reason you were banned before. You need to not go crazy with your conclusions.

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Isn't Nintendo emphasizing more on online as we are drawing close to E3? I think the end of the financial year at the end of this month will focus more on Nintendo's online plans.

[BurntPork]

How do you jump to such wild conclusions based on such generalized statements?

It gives me the impression that Nintendo still doesn't care about online play, and, frankly, there's no reason at all to believe otherwise. I'd make an avatar bet, but I want to save that for something else.

Dude. This is a big reason you were banned before. You need to not go crazy with your conclusions.

I'm not jumping to conclusions. I was already sure that would be the case, and this supports it more.

Oh, and I'm not talking about the store here. I mean that the accounts will be tied to the system with a friend code. It's a stretch to believe otherwise at this point.

[IceDoesntHelp]

Oh he's back. Better block him again..

[Krev]

Those with other systems will get the Wii U as well because it's new. There is always that group of people. If the CoD game is there at launch they'll get it. They'll double dip for their other system of choice as well. People aren't going to dropt eh PS3/360 just for the Wii U. No one is even saying that or believing that so it really isn't worth bringing up.

The issue is that many multi console owners won't bother to buy the Wii U versions of games like CoD because Wii U is not where their friends and gamerscore are.
No-one is going to double dip. Really, no one does that.

[Hoo-doo]

The issues with CoD on the Wii were security and lack of DLC. That's pretty much. Nintendo seems to have security locked down so far with the 3DS and no doubt has it worked out on the Wii U. Knowledge or belief that will be better on a new system will all people to give it a shot even if those problems drove them away form the Wii versions in the past. Storage is something they've addressed already. No a hard drive but SD card works fine and Wii owners are familiar with it if they used the Wii Shop, music games, etc. Those with other systems will get the Wii U as well because it's new. There is always that group of people. If the CoD game is there at launch they'll get it. They'll double dip for their other system of choice as well. People aren't going to dropt eh PS3/360 just for the Wii U. No one is even saying that or believing that so it really isn't worth bringing up. There being a population for CoD on the Wii U won't be a problem.

Sure it will have players on the Wii-U, but it won't attract the millions of frenzied FPS gamers on current HD platforms, who are practically foaming at the mouth to play the next COD.

That could be enough reason for Activision to just wait and see what happens, and launch the next next game on the Wii-U instead of this one, to give it a chance to establish a userbase first.

[Krev]

Sure it will have players on the Wii-U, but it won't attract the millions of frenzied FPS gamers on current HD platforms, who are practically foaming at the mouth to play the next COD. That could be enough reason for Activision to just wait and see what happens, and launch the next next game on the Wii-U instead of this one, to give it a chance to establish a userbase first.

It's Activision. They'll put this one on Wii U.

[nordique]

I think the popularity of any Call of Duty title is immensely dependent on the quality of the online infrastructure that the console offers. Many people buy COD only to play multiplayer with their friends on LIVE and PSN. I don't know if people have enough goodwill for Nintendo left in that specific area after the mediocre online offerings that the Wii had. I have confidence that Nintendo Network will be a huge leap forward, but I think people will just stick with what they know works, and where all their friends are located.

I agree with this. Nintendo can't expect majority of people gaming on Xbox Live or PSN with huge friends lists to simply move over. The Upad isn't going to be that big of a draw to those crowds, that they will give up consoles they already game on with large friends lists, especially when the game experience is unlikely to differ a great deal.

I recall many years ago, one of the original reasons I purchased a 360 was just to maintain co-op and online games with my friends list. I had a PS3 at the time too, but only purchased multiplats on 360 simply due to my friends and Xbox Live. A close friend in another city had a similar experience, however, with PS3 as most of his friends owned that.




That said, I really believe people -- especially "hardcore" gamers who frequent sites like IGN and GAF are truly overlooking how many people owned Wii's, simply because many of these owners never even touch the internet outside of checking their email or checking out amazon or something. And these aren't old 70 years of age people, these are young adults.

Wii U is targeted as the next "Wii" to that group, and I can foresee many people "upgrading" to an HD system

There are tons and tons of people (more so than people who are into games passionately) I know who are adults, professionals, and love gaming but simply don't have the time in regular life to regularly check up with fansites or follow gaming news. Many of these people have games on their iPhones yes but they do indeed enjoy playing Wii Sports or Mario Party, or Just Dance on their home console with the odd dose of Madden or FIFA. And they are Wii Only owners. To them, they are interested in adding a true HD console to their new theatre set ups but have never bothered to invest in a PS3 or 360, because they were able to get their gaming fix with Wii. These are the people who only own 5 or 6 games and they are games like New Super Mario Bros Wii, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Guitar Hero, Just Dance, Madden or FIFA and Maybe a COD.

For them, the Wii U will be a system to get. Those who havent purchased a Kinect 360 bundle yet will jump on the Wii U board. These are a "general public" of young adult gamers. Too busy with professional jobs and social life, with the only exposure to games coming from randomly walking into a Wal Mart or Best Buy. I can see the Wii U appealing to them.

That said, these people won't be interested in Darksiders II by and large. Si I dont expect the Wii U version of some multiplat games to be high sellers relative to how the console sells. I think it will sell fine, but it will be more to new HD console owners and Nintendo fans primarily. Very few current HD system owners will switch brands.

[schuelma]

I realize no one is going to listen to me, but here it goes: Given what has played out so far- i.e, absolutely zero (to my knowledge) announcements of previously unannounced software for Wii U, it is clear Nintendo is holding 99%, if not 100% back until E3. E3 is where we will see what cards Nintendo has to play, including 3rd party support. Until then, it seems rather dumb to make assumptions about the system's future without seeing any of the cards.

[DragonSworne]

Wii U speculation Theard The Fourth: NDAs? How Do They Work?

[Twenty7KVN]

It gives me the impression that Nintendo still doesn't care about online play, and, frankly, there's no reason at all to believe otherwise. I'd make an avatar bet, but I want to save that for something else. I'm not jumping to conclusions. I was already sure that would be the case, and this supports it more.

How can you be sure of something you know nothing about?And who said what to confirm it for you?

[Log4Girlz]

At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.

It'll have TWO maps on the tablet.

[Game-Biz]

So when was the last time we had some positive news? This thread is pretty depressing lately.

[Hoo-doo]

Dude. This is a big reason you were banned before. You need to not go crazy with your conclusions.

If conclusion-jumping would be worthy of a ban, this entire thread wouldn't have existed.

[Coolwhip]

Oh he's back. Better block him again..

Blocked posts still show up on this forum, just without text. Pretty annoying.

[daCuk]

I give it 48 hours before Burntpork is the number 1 poster in this thread.

Nah, BP will create the next Wii U Speculation Thread: I Told You So.

[lordfroakie]

Burtnport won't survive more than 2-3 weeks, if this keeps up.

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I realize no one is going to listen to me, but here it goes: Given what has played out so far- i.e, absolutely zero (to my knowledge) announcements of previously unannounced software for Wii U, it is clear Nintendo is holding 99%, if not 100% back until E3. E3 is where we will see what cards Nintendo has to play, including 3rd party support. Until then, it seems rather dumb to make assumptions about the system's future without seeing any of the cards.

Some here probably think Nintendo isn't going to have much at E3, hahahahahaha.

Your guess is much more based in common sense.

[DefectiveReject]

lol
Back a few hours and already BurntPork is making his wild swinging statements.

I guess the next 2 months will be interesting!

[IceDoesntHelp]

Blocked posts still show up on this forum, just without text. Pretty annoying.

I know, but I can't stand his posts. So as long as I can't read 'em I'll be fine.

[Sadist]

I realize no one is going to listen to me, but here it goes: Given what has played out so far- i.e, absolutely zero (to my knowledge) announcements of previously unannounced software for Wii U, it is clear Nintendo is holding 99%, if not 100% back until E3. E3 is where we will see what cards Nintendo has to play, including 3rd party support. Until then, it seems rather dumb to make assumptions about the system's future without seeing any of the cards.

Oh sure. But this is GAF. Hyperbole is the board's second nature.

[Effect]

The issue is that many multi console owners won't bother to buy the Wii U versions of games like CoD because Wii U is not where their friends and gamerscore are. No-one is going to double dip. Really, no one does that.

With the sales of CoD games being so massive there is no way people don't buy multiple versions of the games at some point. In the end there is no way of telling what sales of the Wii U version will be. There is still no reason for it not to be on the system, especially when it will be seen as a launch title. Nintendo isn't going to pull people on mass away from other systems for good. No one is expecting that. There will still be a large number of people that will be getting the system and those early adopters are likely to play a game like this on the system. Regardless of what they have invested on other systems because it will be something to play on their new hardware.

[BurntPork]

How can you be sure of something you know nothing about?And who said what to confirm it for you?

If Nintendo doesn't think that it's important for third-parties to know how to use their online, they obviously don't care about it.

It's a good think we're past the spec guessing stage, or else I would have been killed by now.

[NateDrake]

I realize no one is going to listen to me, but here it goes: Given what has played out so far- i.e, absolutely zero (to my knowledge) announcements of previously unannounced software for Wii U, it is clear Nintendo is holding 99%, if not 100% back until E3. E3 is where we will see what cards Nintendo has to play, including 3rd party support. Until then, it seems rather dumb to make assumptions about the system's future without seeing any of the cards.

Thank you! This, folks, is called common sense. Take it in. Love it. Care for it. It'll do you well in the future instead of coming up with half-assed doom day theories based on nothing.

If Nintendo doesn't think that it's important for third-parties to know how to use their online, they obviously don't care about it. It's a good think we're past the spec guessing stage, or else I would have been killed by now.

He was voicing his opinion! Notice the big IF he had at the start of the post? Yea.........he never said 'Nintendo hasn't shared online details'. He said 'If Nintendo hasn't shared online...'. Big damn difference.

[BY2K]

It's like you never left, BurntPork.

It's a good think we're past the spec guessing stage, or else I would have been killed by now.

I wouldn't be so sure about that...

[axisofweevils]

At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.

Yep... the "opening up their kimono" speech

[Sadist]

Oh man, glad I'm done with the 4.0 thread. Things are heating up.

[Javier]

In two months we'll all be victims of the BurntPork virus and we won't even care to tune in to E3.

"Ladies and gentlemen, available on Wii U launch, I present you... Nintendo Vs. Capcom."

*Shot of an empty GAF, crickets chirp*

[Rösti]

Oh man, glad I'm done with the 4.0 thread. Things are heating up.

Ah, yes. Any changes to the banner you want, or some other graphical elements?

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

[Wiz]

I've missed most of this speculation thread, and at the time when the most speculation happened.

Ugh...Only two more months.

[BurntPork]

He was voicing his opinion! Notice the big IF he had at the start of the post? Yea.........he never said 'Nintendo hasn't shared online details'. He said 'If Nintendo hasn't shared online...'. Big damn difference.

The idea that Nintendo wouldn't give such information is so ridiculous that I can't imagine such a scenario being guessed. Alberto has one hell of an imagination of he could come up with an insane scenario like that and believe that it's even a possibility. And that's coming from someone like me. (Or he's just desperate to ensure that we don't get our hopes up for good third-party support.)

It's like you never left, BurntPork. I wouldn't be so sure about that...

Do you want me to post my current spec guess? The fireworks would be amazing, I guess.

[Twenty7KVN]

If Nintendo doesn't think that it's important for third-parties to know how to use their online, they obviously don't care about it. It's a good think we're past the spec guessing stage, or else I would have been killed by now.

But who said that a dev?Am i missing something?

[Sadist]

Ah, yes. Any changes to the banner you want, or some other graphical elements?

It's good. Fine the way it is.

[HylianTom]

So.. Miyamoto is destined to make either a cat game or a dating sim?

Hmm..

[Diablos54]

Do you want me to post my current spec guess? The fireworks would be amazing, I guess.

YES PLEASE!!!

[Twenty7KVN]

So.. Miyamoto is destined to make either a cat game or a dating sim? Hmm..

Or a cat dating sim

[DragonSworne]

But who said that a dev?Am i missing something?

No, another gaf poster speculating that Nintendo might not have shared their online infrastructure to third parties.

BurntPork then took this to it's only logical conclusion, which is obviously Nintendo does not care about online....

[axisofweevils]

So.. Miyamoto is destined to make either a cat game or a dating sim? Hmm..

Will it be a CATastrophe?

[Javier]

Do you want me to post my current spec guess? The fireworks would be amazing, I guess.

Oh please do.

[img-popcorn.gif]

[ozfunghi]

YES PLEASE!!!

Vectrex ductaped to a NES controller.

[TheCongressman1]

If conclusion-jumping would be worthy of a ban, this entire thread wouldn't have existed.

This is true.

Welcome back, Pork.

[axisofweevils]

Latest in almost certainly already posted news.

Suda51 still doesn't have a Wii U dev kit.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2012/...er_manufacture

PS: Have you got hold of a Wii U development kit yet? Suda: Not right now, no. PS: Is that something you are looking to get ahold of? Suda: It’s hard to say. Maybe, maybe not. It’s really depending on publishers. We are developers, so it’s up to a publisher.

[IceDoesntHelp]

Latest in almost certainly already posted news. Suda51 still doesn't have a Wii U dev kit. http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2012/...er_manufacture

Already been posted man (;

[TheExplodingHead]

It gives me the impression that Nintendo still doesn't care about online play, and, frankly, there's no reason at all to believe otherwise. I'd make an avatar bet, but I want to save that for something else.

I also don't see any evidence that Nintendo is preparing to challenge the full services set that encompasses XBL/PSN online. So until I see evidence to indicate otherwise, I'm going to err on the side of them not making it a HUGE priority, again. Going purely from history and what we've seen thus far concerning Nintendo full online plans, I don't presume they've gotten it, yet.

To be perfectly clear I'm basing this only off what Nintendo has flat out no-spin confirmed and detailed, not what they've mouth flapped and said...it's about what they do.