[riceandbeans]

I think Tecmo just told the guy to make the game simpler, more casual, with full online play suite, DLC weapons, and blah-diddy-current-gen-blahblah. The guy can't be completely oblivious to how this game came out vs. NG1+2. All things considered-- Itagaki having a butt ton of leverage to endlessly delay games until they were perfect because he saved Tecmo, the shake up, acquisition of Tecmo, and maybe a slice of good ol' Japanese insecurity about the genres they are actually great at causing them to make WTF decisions-- I can't believe that Hayashi was just like "herp derp make actiong game time!" and plopped out this. Even though Itagaki was there, hayashi was project lead/director on NGB, Sigma, and even Dragon Sword was a pretty good game with some fun gameplay. NG3 stinks to high hell of some retarded suits telling the team how to make the game. I don't wish the guy to lose his job over it, i'm hoping instead it'll make Tecmoei/TN reevaluate and try to make a game in the vein of 1 or 2. They need to drop the online crap too and just focus on a solid single-player game.

Ninja Gaiden Black and 2 weren't his games though. He was tasked with updating Itagaki's games. Now that he's gone, the franchise is in his hands and he's controlling the direction now.

He's changing the franchise into his vision now, a shitty one. I can't see how the game's turnout isn't his fault. He gave the okay to change the franchise into this "dark hero" morality bullshit, add ridiculous QTE's and close ups, and leave out important content like extra weapons. Why the fuck did he think random QTE's and that idiotic kunai shit was a good idea? Did he play his own game?

Plain and simple, I don't want him on the franchise anymore because I don't like his direction. Watch the intro to Ninja Gaiden 3, then go watch 2. 3 starts with a ridiculously boring conversation, nothing happening, then finally followed by a QTE and 2 starts off with some chick with huge tits shooting people in the face, Ryu throwing ninja stars in motherfuckers eyes followed by getting mobbed by ruthless ninjas who want to rip your head off even though their arm was just decapitated. That's Ninja Gaiden.

[Ninja Dom]

Finished Ultimate Ninja, got 3.3m karma. Worst game ever.

Wait, you've done a Hard playthrough, a Master Ninja playthrough and an Ultimate Ninja playthrough on the worst game ever?? Was it really that bad?

I checked out your Ultimate Ninja playthrough and still can't figure out how to display karma score and combo counter.

I'm on Day 2 of my first playthrough. Hard difficulty. Definitely not as technical as Ninja Gaiden 2. So far I'm strangely enjoying it but it has serious problems. Framerate is awful.

I got my copy brand new but my Online Pass code doesn't work (PS3). It says my code has already been redeemed. What do I do?

[Combichristoffersen]

Just played the demo, and I liked it, even though I see why NG fans hate the game. Anyway, about the story in the game, I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was related to the original NG trilogy?

[hikarutilmitt]

Just played the demo, and I liked it, even though I see why NG fans hate the game. Anyway, about the story in the game, I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was related to the original NG trilogy?

It has the original scenario writer from the NES games and has a lot of cloning and mutants crap in it.

[benzy]

Just played the demo, and I liked it, even though I see why NG fans hate the game. Anyway, about the story in the game, I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was related to the original NG trilogy?

It's as much related to the old NES games as the Itagaki games. The plot in NG3 is directly related to NG 1 and 2 on Xbox.

[Combichristoffersen]

It has the original scenario writer from the NES games and has a lot of cloning and mutants crap in it.

So it's like the original NG3 then ._. howaboutno.jpg

It's as much related to the old NES games as the Itagaki games. The plot in NG3 is directly related to NG 1 and 2 on Xbox.

OK, thanks.

[Rhazer Fusion]

Finished Ultimate Ninja, got 3.3m karma. Worst game ever.

Wow......Master Ninja really pushed my skills to the limits and I beat NG2 on X360 and NG2S on Master Ninja. I cannot imagine how terrible UNM is. I just finished Master Ninja tonight and I must say, I recommend that people steer clear from that difficulty if you get frustrated easily. I've seen some disturbingly cheap stuff in that mode, especially if you do not have quick reflexes and patience. Once I mastered the moves of the weapons, the slide and learned each enemies weaknesses, it was much more bearable though. For anyone who complains that the game plays itself, try MNM and you will be humbled with it's dirty tactics and relentless enemies.

[Rhazer Fusion]

Am I the only one not bothered by the QTE's? The final blows essentially feel like OT from NG2 to me in a strange way. Maybe it is just me, but I don't really think they interrupted the flow of play as much as people say. It isn't like they are easy to fail and cause numerous deaths.

[SHAZOOM]

Am I the only one not bothered by the QTE's? The final blows essentially feel like OT from NG2 to me in a strange way. Maybe it is just me, but I don't really think they interrupted the flow of play as much as people say. It isn't like they are easy to fail and cause numerous deaths.

Honestly, its not like God of War where you have to do a series of button presses that literally have nothing to do with the action involved. Most of the QTEs are just button prompts for stuff that's always been in Ninja Gaiden:

X + waggle stick breaks throws
Y to OT/Kill Bosses
Mash on X when in a Sword Clash/Steel on Bone.

If you guys want hard terrible QTEs, play Spider-man 3. God damn I hate that games QTEs.

[Ninja Dom]

I'm going through my first playthrough on Hard. I can see a lot of influences from Metroid Other M. Especially the running into the screen avoiding obstacles sections and the over the shoulder cam sections.

[Seraphinianus]

Honestly, its not like God of War where you have to do a series of button presses that literally have nothing to do with the action involved. Most of the QTEs are just button prompts for stuff that's always been in Ninja Gaiden: X + waggle stick breaks throws Y to OT/Kill Bosses Mash on X when in a Sword Clash/Steel on Bone. If you guys want hard terrible QTEs, play Spider-man 3. God damn I hate that games QTEs.

I agree the QTEs are not super offensive. it's just that the other games had so much more going on in their combat systems. OT doesn't feel like a QTE in NG2, it's more like a second to actually catch your breath knowing you're in a longer invincible animation (and they're super satisfying given how much that game fucks with you.) this game doesn't give much of a sense of accomplishment, then throws you into these canned animations over and over.

[R_thanatos]

Am I the only one not bothered by the QTE's? The final blows essentially feel like OT from NG2 to me in a strange way. Maybe it is just me, but I don't really think they interrupted the flow of play as much as people say. It isn't like they are easy to fail and cause numerous deaths.

I'm not bothered either ...i played a long amount of time and i never got at a point where i was bothered ...BUT ...

The kunai climbing is horrible ...

[Ninja Dom]

I'm up to Day 7 on this and I have to admit that I'M REALLY ENJOYING MYSELF!!

I've been through Ninja Gaiden Xbox, NG Black, Sigma, Sigma 2 and now NG3 PS3.

I was expecting a complete train wreck but it's not really that bad. It's completely inferior to the others and has some bullshit in it.

No score, collectibles, exploring, weapons, upgrades etc. You know the list. Combat is far weaker than NG 2.

But the game is okay so far.

[Rhazer Fusion]

I'm up to Day 7 on this and I have to admit that I'M REALLY ENJOYING MYSELF!! I've been through Ninja Gaiden Xbox, NG Black, Sigma, Sigma 2 and now NG3 PS3. I was expecting a complete train wreck but it's not really that bad. It's completely inferior to the others and has some bullshit in it. No score, collectibles, exploring, weapons, upgrades etc. You know the list. Combat is far weaker than NG 2. But the game is okay so far.

You get a score when you unlock the master ninja mode. Yeah, I know, that makes no sense whatsoever.

The collectibles(scarabs, skulls) are in multiplayer and they net you more experience for your ninja. Why multiplayer??? Yeah, I know.....makes no sense.

[Rhazer Fusion]

I'm not bothered either ...i played a long amount of time and i never got at a point where i was bothered ...BUT ... The kunai climbing is horrible ...

Actually, I got the timing down and I don't mind that either. At first, it felt weird to me admittedly, especially that burning bridge part.

[Liferebooted]

How the fuck isn't this game on sale yet?

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

How the fuck isn't this game on sale yet?

It's 40 bucks on Amazon right now.

And in other news Andriasang has Tecmo Koei's earnings report. Turns out NG3 has shipped 630,000 copies worldwide.

[ViewtifulJC]

Considering the sales from the NPD/UK threads, I imagine at least half of those are sitting on store shelves right now.

[sixteen-bit]

It's 40 bucks on Amazon right now. And in other news Andriasang has Tecmo Koei's earnings report. Turns out NG3 has shipped 630,000 copies worldwide.

What are the odds there are 500k of them rotting on shelves as week speak?

[benzy]

Retailers must be pissed they over ordered.

[yankeehater]

Hopefully they sold the majority of those. I can't wait for a new ng game where they take fan feedback and fix the stuff they broke.

[Rhazer Fusion]

Hopefully they sold the majority of those. I can't wait for a new ng game where they take fan feedback and fix the stuff they broke.

Problem is, that will take another 4 to 5 years to develop generously speaking. Look how long it took to get NG3.

[SHAZOOM]

So basically, if you play the game expecting it to control EXACTLY like NG1/2, with the same kind of strategies, you'll hate the game.

If you go in with no real expectations, its a solid if flawed effort.

Also, I still have no idea why the game is still above $30. If it bombed so badly, in the opinion of metascores and diehard NG fans, why hasn't it gone down in price? I want to pick this up at $20 and under (only rented it on Gamefly).

If they do another NG, I almost want them to go for a mash up of Modern NG/Nes NG/Arcade NG. Sort of like a Double Dragon Advance, where Ryu is just leaving a bloody mess across his CrossCountry trip across America.

[hayejin]

So basically, if you play the game expecting it to control EXACTLY like NG1/2, with the same kind of strategies, you'll hate the game. If you go in with no real expectations, its a solid if flawed effort. Also, I still have no idea why the game is still above $30. If it bombed so badly, in the opinion of metascores and diehard NG fans, why hasn't it gone down in price? I want to pick this up at $20 and under (only rented it on Gamefly). If they do another NG, I almost want them to go for a mash up of Modern NG/Nes NG/Arcade NG. Sort of like a Double Dragon Advance, where Ryu is just leaving a bloody mess across his CrossCountry trip across America.

My sentiments exactly. I'm enjoying the Ninja Trials. The Master and Ultimate Ninja mode is pretty much impossible unless you have a good communicating coop player. The Clans battle is pretty dumb with pretty much upper tier level players dominating most of the games.

[Rhazer Fusion]

So basically, if you play the game expecting it to control EXACTLY like NG1/2, with the same kind of strategies, you'll hate the game. If you go in with no real expectations, its a solid if flawed effort. Also, I still have no idea why the game is still above $30. If it bombed so badly, in the opinion of metascores and diehard NG fans, why hasn't it gone down in price? I want to pick this up at $20 and under (only rented it on Gamefly). If they do another NG, I almost want them to go for a mash up of Modern NG/Nes NG/Arcade NG. Sort of like a Double Dragon Advance, where Ryu is just leaving a bloody mess across his CrossCountry trip across America.

Games that bomb normally do not drop as fast anymore it seems. For example, why is Never Dead and Asura's Wrath still l$60 after all this time? Knights Contract and Golden Axe: BR took forever drop to a reasonable price also.

[Darkmakaimura]

Ok, so I really want to know.... How is the level design and graphics in comparison to NG1 and NG2? Everything I see looks like it's a huge step down in both these areas.

Also, what kills me is the story looks like a complete departure from the previous games. I wish they would have kept to the whole Archfiend storyline and not about some random, unexplained Goddess brought forth by a previously unknown alchemy group that has no connections to the Vigoor Empire or the Fiends.

[Ninja Dom]

The Fiends being in the game are unexplained even though Ryu acknowledges them in a cutscenes.

I've finished my Hard playthrough and started my Master Ninja playthrough and it is a pile of bullshit - as has been said by others earlier in the thread. Immediately those helmet wearing dudes are a nightmare when they attack in a group. And it's just wave after wave of enemies.

[GuardianE]

Hopefully they sold the majority of those. I can't wait for a new ng game where they take fan feedback and fix the stuff they broke.

That's a silly mentality. It's one of their strongest brands.

They won't NOT make a new Ninja Gaiden. The question becomes whether or not NG3 is the new standard for the franchise.

[SHAZOOM]

That's a silly mentality. It's one of their strongest brands. They won't NOT make a new Ninja Gaiden. The question becomes whether or not NG3 is the new standard for the franchise.

Honestly, if they keep in this direction they need to make the controls responsive 100% of the time. As it is, I don't really have a problem with the idea of the mechanics like SOB or building up meter for Ninpo/UTs. Add in more weapons and customize Ninpo load outs, I see it sort of going the DMC3 route where you pick your loadout beforehand vs. switching on the fly.

Should probably soft reboot and stop using the numbering, so its not expected to be Itagaki's version.

Or maybe there really weren't enough resources to make the game more polish. I don't know.

[Darkmakaimura]

That's a silly mentality. It's one of their strongest brands. They won't NOT make a new Ninja Gaiden. The question becomes whether or not NG3 is the new standard for the franchise.

I think they pretty much killed the Ninja Gaiden franchise at this point. You're either going to see:
1) another handheld NG game.
or
2) another reboot of the series.

[L1quidSwords]

Picked this up for $20 (BB DoTD) is it normal for a black screen on startup for a good minute until I see tecmo logo? I'm installed on the 360. Anyone else have this?

[WhyMe6]

So I played the demo and, apart from the smoky fog bit, I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I'm keen to get this cheap, or maybe the updated (?) Wii U versiom when it's cheap. Why is this game bad again?

It's a hell of a lot better than the boring DS game, too.

[Ninja Dom]

So I played the demo and, apart from the smoky fog bit, I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I'm keen to get this cheap, or maybe the updated (?) Wii U versiom when it's cheap. Why is this game bad again? It's a hell of a lot better than the boring DS game, too.

The game is just...BORING!!!

Problem is the Master Ninja and Ultimate Ninja playthrough's. Not enough variety in the enemies and all it essentially is walk into an invisibly squared off area and fight tons & tons of enemies. Then walk forward a small way to the next area and repeat. The difficulty isn't from the higher skill levels of the computer AI, it's from trying to stay alive after fighting hundreds of enemies being forced on you.

[Kokonoe]

Are these playable characters? and does the Wii U version have more?

[benzy]

They're nonplayable. Only Ryu is playable in this version. Wii-u lets you play as Momiji, Ayane, and Kasumi (via dlc).

[Kokonoe]

They're nonplayable. Only Ryu is playable in this version. Wii-u lets you play as Momiji, Ayane, and Kasumi (via dlc).

How much is Kasumi?

[Revan]

How much is Kasumi?

Free.

[Y2Kev]

After six months, I just beat this game! I'd say it actually wasn't that terrible overall as a "brawler" type game, but an awful NG and the wave combat was terrible. I think the reviews were mostly fair but whatevs.