JJD
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(03-14-2012, 04:10 AM)

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#201

Wow at the impressions...I was looking forward to this game...

I wonder if I should worry about Dead or Alive...
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Originally Posted by JJD: View Post
Wow at the impressions...I was looking forward to this game...

I wonder if I should worry about Dead or Alive...
Nah.
JJD
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Originally Posted by Ignis Fatuus: View Post
I saw that footage earlier, looks amazing sure.

But NG3 didn't look that bad from the videos available before release too.

Fingers crossed anyway.
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#204

Hayashi isn't at the helm for DOA5 so you don't have much to worry about.

....or is he?!

Hayashi is the #1 reason why NG3 will be awful.
The dude just does NOT get Ninja Gaiden.
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(03-14-2012, 04:19 AM)

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Originally Posted by HYDE: View Post
They'll probably make new weapons as DLC...I am calling it now. LOL
edited

welp
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post
!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post

welp
I would edit that. Scans are banned.
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#208

master ninja mode sounds legit, i think i'm gonna like this.
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Well at least you still get to cut dudes...
AAK
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#210

Originally Posted by Robot Pants: View Post
Hayashi isn't at the helm for DOA5 so you don't have much to worry about.

....or is he?!

Hayashi is the #1 reason why NG3 will be awful.
The dude just does NOT get Ninja Gaiden.
He was the Project Lead for Ninja Gaiden Black.

Just saying.
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(03-14-2012, 04:30 AM)

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Originally Posted by AAK: View Post
He was the Project Lead for Ninja Gaiden Black.

Just saying.
I guess he's kinda like Vince Russo and he needs a good boss man like Vince Mcmahon to filter all his ideas through.
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#212

This is disappointing. I love the Ninja Gaiden reboot, so I'll still buy this but Hayashi has entered ninja dog mode. :/
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#213

Black was still Itagaki's baby, even if Hayashi was lead.

We saw how great he is unfiltered, even with Itagaki there, with Sigma making the original and Black worse.
Kunai
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Originally Posted by AAK: View Post
He was the Project Lead for Ninja Gaiden Black.

Just saying.
But the directors were Hiroaki Matsui, Itagaki and Katsunori Ehara, with NG3 (and the Sigmas) Hayashi made very clear that he didn't share the same vision and concept of what makes a Ninja Gaiden game.
AAK
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I'm not debating that NG3 isn't different all together from the previous iterations. I'm just refuting your claim about how Hayashi not "getting" Ninja Gaiden.

As for NG3, It was always clear from the original reveal that it was going to be different from previous iterations and all of it were intentional. He wanted to do something different for the sequel, that was it. Take the good with the bad. I know it sucks that the depth of the game is dumbed down, but I know there will still be a lot to enjoy from the game just by watching the gameplay videos released thus far and might as well enjoy the added spectacle to the formula instead of being so constantly negative.
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Originally Posted by AAK: View Post
He was the Project Lead for Ninja Gaiden Black.

Just saying.
Project lead under the direction of Matsui.
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Originally Posted by benzy: View Post
Project lead under the direction of Matsui.
What does that change? Hayashi was still responsible for the core game design.
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Quote:
The latest Famitsu reports that Tecmo Koei will be releasing claw and scythe weapons as free download content for Ninja Gaiden 3.
http://andriasang.com/con0a4/ninja_gaiden_3_dlc/
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Originally Posted by AAK: View Post
What does that change? Hayashi was still responsible for the core game design.
Was he? Most of what made Black were Itagaki's ideas. Hayashi was probably there to carry out Itagaki's wishes and probably didn't have much of a say in what gets in or what is left out.

Quote:
1UP: What sort of new gameplay elements are in Ninja Gaiden Black?

TI:
I have been saying this from the beginning, that I would ultimately complete Ninja Gaiden by completely rewriting its main game mode. I wanted to completely rebuild the game, including all of the new camera work, new weapons, and new monsters that were created for the Hurricane Packs. It is like a systematic reorganization and tidying up of the game. At first I thought that my choices were to do that via a Hurricane Pack 3, or to do it as an add-on disc. Eventually, I settled on this way. It is the simplest and most practical solution.
http://www.1up.com/features/ninja-gaiden-black

Then, Hayashi had full control and freedom with Sigma without Itagaki having anything to do with it, and he decided to fuck up the perfect balance in Black along with the introduction of shitty playable Rachel missions.

Without Itagaki being apart of Black we probably would have had those Rachel missions in Black too.

Quote:
1UP: Many people are probably wondering if Rachel be playable in Ninja Gaiden Black.

TI: As I have said on many occasions since I was working on the original game, I have no intention of making the female characters playable in Ninja Gaiden. That goes for Black as well. Capcom often practices that style of game design, though, so I understand why people might expect it.
Averon
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#220

Weapons as DLC. Wow.
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex: View Post
HAYASHI SUCKS! OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE!

Oh. Wait. Free?

Hayashi...um.

Dammit.

Good shit.
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Originally Posted by Averon: View Post
Weapons as DLC. Wow.


Still, rather have this be in the game already
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Sometimes I gotta say myself "NG:B came in a past generation, stop liking how it looks!"
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post


Still, rather have this be in the game already
They came up with the lunar staff after Ninja Gaiden was finished though.

With NG3 on the other hand, they already have all of the move sets and game data on the weapons. I think it's obvious they're just feeling the heat from NG fans on their design choices. Still, free is good.
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Originally Posted by Superblatt: View Post
Details from GameSpot below.

what else can I say except WOW. What made them think the formula was broken in the first place?

QTE’s can be turned off in the options menu, but are frequent throughout the game, from a slow- motion knee slide to slicing through enemies to using the Kunai climb.
I can't turn them off in my code. I can disable the on-screen prompts but I still need to do those, albeit "blindly".
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Originally Posted by Skilletor: View Post
HAYASHI SUCKS! OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE!

Oh. Wait. Free?

Hayashi...um.

Dammit.

Good shit.
It's always free at first.
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Originally Posted by MCD: View Post
It's always free at first.
What I don't want, I won't pay for.

claws were my favorite weapon in NG2. Hope they do a good job with them in this.
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#228

I'm going to have to itagakilaugh.gif if these free dlc weapons are for multiplayer only.
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#229

You know, I give up.

I bought that shoddy port job, NGS Vita so this shouldn't be a big deal. I'm game.
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex: View Post
Why do developers do this? Why punish gamers that don't have their consoles connected to the internet?

Anyways, seeing all the details about this makes me sort of sad. I loved the first two games in the series and even though I was never good enough to beat it on the higher difficulties, the challenge was part of the NG experience for me. Also, the dual swords were my go to weapon in NG2.
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Meh, never really cared for what "true" NG fans wanted in this. I just want to sit back and have a good time slashing things up. Never got the NGB love. Just because something is hard, doesn't make it "good". Now, granted that's probably not the primary reason for loving the game so much, but that's what it seems like.
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I'm still looking forward to this game, being a big fan of the NG series. I am concerned about the graphics, although. For those who have actually played, are they up to par with NG2 or Sigma 2? From the looks of a lot of the videos online, it seems they're a bit plain when compared to the last title.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Meh, never really cared for what "true" NG fans wanted in this. I just want to sit back and have a good time slashing things up. Never got the NGB love. Just because something is hard, doesn't make it "good". Now, granted that's probably not the primary reason for loving the game so much, but that's what it seems like.
It's loved because it's got one of the best battle systems in an action game ever. The difficulty is fine tuned for replay value for every difficulty level. It never feels unfair because you always have the tools to overcome.

That's why people love it. It's kind of like Demon/Dark Souls. The game beats you up, but it's almost always fair. Some people like a challenge, others don't.
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#234

This is really a game? Where in the world have I been....
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Meh, never really cared for what "true" NG fans wanted in this. I just want to sit back and have a good time slashing things up. Never got the NGB love. Just because something is hard, doesn't make it "good". Now, granted that's probably not the primary reason for loving the game so much, but that's what it seems like.
It's totally not because the game plays great, nawwww.
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#236

One weapon. One weapon? ONE WEAPON?

What the fuck.

I had no hopes for this game, and they still somehow managed to undersurpass them.
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#237

Watch this be the best in the series, watch.

Multiplayer looks tacked on, but looks like a solid great action game.

I liked NG2 and sigma 2 more than ng sigma, come at me
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Originally Posted by Apeopleman: View Post
Watch this be the best in the series, watch.

Multiplayer looks tacked on, but looks like a solid great action game.

I liked NG2 and sigma 2 more than ng sigma, come at me
Well aren't you edgy and cool, seriously though there is NO WAY in hell this is going to be the best game in the series. What a fucking joke of a post!
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Originally Posted by JoeFenix: View Post
Well aren't you edgy and cool, seriously though there is NO WAY in hell this is going to be the best game in the series. What a fucking joke of a post!
Best graphics maybe.
talan619
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#240

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex: View Post
Can these dlc weapons be use in the campaign? or just in the multiplayer modes ?

And Famitsu gives NG3 9/9/9/9 (the highest score in the series ?)
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Kusagari
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#241

Originally Posted by Apeopleman: View Post
Watch this be the best in the series, watch.

Multiplayer looks tacked on, but looks like a solid great action game.

I liked NG2 and sigma 2 more than ng sigma, come at me
It will be best in the series for people who love God of War.
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Originally Posted by HYDE: View Post
They'll probably make new weapons as DLC...I am calling it now. LOL
Holy shit! I actually called it, that's freaking hilarious.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Meh, never really cared for what "true" NG fans wanted in this. I just want to sit back and have a good time slashing things up. Never got the NGB love. Just because something is hard, doesn't make it "good". Now, granted that's probably not the primary reason for loving the game so much, but that's what it seems like.
What is this drivel? People don't like the previous titles because they are hard. There are plenty garbage hard games out there that nobody likes. Please inform yourself before speaking such nonsense.

As for the free weapon dlc, it would go a long way to redeem the game somewhat if the dlc is in the campaign as it would removed the SOB nonsense. That said, it might highlight even more why this game is so much of a step Down.
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Endo Punk
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#244

My heart... it's broken. Looks like all my hopes ly with MGR now.

Hiyashi get it together man! my only hope is that this game serves as lesson and applied to make NG4 a return to form.
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I like what I see in the new launch trailer. It is a stupid launch trailer, but the content feels solid.

Plus there are still some massive demon beasts in there.
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Originally Posted by talan619: View Post
Can these dlc weapons be use in the campaign? or just in the multiplayer modes ?

And Famitsu gives NG3 9/9/9/9 (the highest score in the series ?)
Probably just in multiplayer. I can't see how they could put different weapons in Ryu's hands during video cut-scenes and QTE's clearly designed with the katana in mind.
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Originally Posted by TTP: View Post
Probably just in multiplayer. I can't see how they could put different weapons in Ryu's hands during video cut-scenes and QTE's clearly designed with the katana in mind.
They could just show the katana in cutscenes and not give a damn about the weapon you're actually using in the game. It's NG, after all.

Aside from that, *sigh* it looks bad as I expected. Not awfully bad, just another generic action game, maybe better that the average GoW ripoff but still far from NG2. Will wait for bargain bin price.
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Originally Posted by Skilletor: View Post
It's loved because it's got one of the best battle systems in an action game ever. The difficulty is fine tuned for replay value for every difficulty level. It never feels unfair because you always have the tools to overcome.

That's why people love it. It's kind of like Demon/Dark Souls. The game beats you up, but it's almost always fair. Some people like a challenge, others don't.
Yep. People liked NG because you constantly had to be on your toes. The grunts were competent enough to kill you dead, which kept the tension high and forced you to master the mechanics. Dropping the difficulty removes the tension and rewards sloppy play. It leaves a lot of depth on the table because you never have to learn anything to make progress.
Gokurakumaru
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#249

Nice opening post, AAK, but some of your section heading translations look like they came straight out of a ENG-JPN dictionary. Fixing these will make your opening post look more authentic:

Gameplay should be ゲームプレイ
Characters would be more typically something 登場人物
Media should be 動画
Reviews should be レビュー
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#250

Is the Stockholm syndrome already going on?

"Fuck they've removed all the weapons!"
"Oh, but we're giving you some of them as free DLC!"
"Free? You guys are great!"

How many days it will take?