[Maxim726X]

Nope... Nope. Not them.

He killed two other innocent kids to save face. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[aceface]

Book readers, get in here for a second (big COK spoilers) we gotta figure out how we are going to deal with this unit they make the reveal at the end of the season. Just say vague things like "no one is safe" ok sound like a plan?

[jett]

COK spoilers disagree they gave the exact same number of clues as the book I thought. It's not obvious but if you think about it you can figure it out.

Yeah well the book got me good.

[StriKeVillain]

Buh? Only 9 episodes this season?

10.

[Leeness]

Can anyone tell me if the end of the second book ends on something of a hopeful note? Its getting to be a real bummer in Westros for everyone.

Oh you sweet summer child.

[vehn]

I'm not gonna quote the spoiler again but WHYYYYYYYYYY would you just post that unmarked?!

Yeah seriously. That may or may not of been one of the biggest reveals at end of season

[Zabka]

It feels strange an episode with so much cruelty in it as beautiful but it's the best word I can come up with. That was really, really good and looked fantastic. I'd love to see what they can do with a Rome-sized budget.

One other thing I loved. I'm a sucker for any history being discussed, even without dangling jubblies.

[LeadProtagonist]

Yeah, everyone I watched it with said about the end "Oh, it's the two orphan boys".

[DeathbyVolcano]

Book readers, get in here for a second (big COK spoilers) we gotta figure out how we are going to deal with this unit they make the reveal at the end of the season. Just say vague things like "no one is safe" ok sound like a plan?

No one is safe.

[aceface]

Either the guy who cut that prievew is messing with out headsor someone at HBOcant count

2 hr finale perhaps?

[blainethemono]

That might have been my favorite episode of the series. I love Ygritte's accent

So...does Larry plan to come out of hiding and do a review? Or has he quit...

He's doing a double review for ep. 6 and 7 tonight

[Jrmint]

10.

They said only 2 eps remain which would bring the total to 9. This was the 7th. I thought the same thing when I saw it. That would really suck if there's only 9.

[jett]

Book readers, get in here for a second (big COK spoilers) we gotta figure out how we are going to deal with this unit they make the reveal at the end of the season. Just say vague things like "no one is safe" ok sound like a plan?

If you're a non-reader and come to this thread you're asking to get spoiled. There's always a dumbass that can't mark spoilers.

[DeathbyVolcano]

I fixed it I'm sooooowwwwy

[Pollux]

He's doing a double review for ep. 6 and 7 tonight

Oh goodie. I like his reviews almost as much as the show. The combination of one of the nerdiest guys in the world acting tough + new reader reactions = pretty fucking priceless.

I fixed it I'm sooooowwwwy

:jnc I did the same thing a while back and got bitched at so I was continuing the tradition and bitching at you. Now, next time someone does it, it's up to YOU to bitch at THEM. It's like Tyrion's chain...just keeps going and going and going (unless you just don't mention it....like the show is doing)

[StriKeVillain]

They said only 2 eps remain which would bring the total to 9. This was the 7th. I thought the same thing when I saw it. That would really suck if there's only 9.

There's 10. Maybe they messed up on the preview, I see 3 more episodes left on Wiki.

[i_am_not_jon_ames]

Anyone have a youtube for next week's preview? It's not on HBOGo and my DVR cut off :(

[DoctorWho]

I'm not gonna quote the spoiler again but WHYYYYYYYYYY would you just post that unmarked?!

He should of marked it but those who haven't read at least up to the end of COK should really stay out of this thread.

[methodman]

I fixed it I'm sooooowwwwy

that was awful :jnc

[Pollux]

He should of marked it but those who haven't read at least up to the end of COK should really stay out of this thread.

**shrug** it's not that hard to use the spoiler tags.

[Van Owen]

Anyone have a youtube for next week's preview? It's not on HBOGo and my DVR cut off :(

It's on Go for me.

[BlueTsunami]

More Ygritte describing her fiery crotch, please.

Showrunners pls

[petethepanda]

That Jaime/Alton scene was AWESOME! Holy shit! That's the quality I expect from this show more often.

[Magnus]

[COK]Holy fuck, that last scene and the scenes with Bran, Rickon and Theon that precede it were written, edited and planned for SHIT. There's no way any intelligent viewer would actually believe those were Bran and Rickon. The music was a little psycho and off-kilter. A character like Rodrik had such an immense death, that I can't believe any viewer would accept that that was Bran's sendoff. I mean, the kids were a black char; if there had even been a sense of humanity left in those corpses, a bit of flesh near the face, an eyeball, some tattered clothes, or some kind of visual signifier that they were actually the two Stark princes, the scene would have sat better. That wasn't great.

Other than that, awesome episode that I feel will be shat on a little by new viewers, on account of it being 'too much talking'.

Christ, that Jaime/Alton scene. Amazing. His two 'japes' at her were outstanding and perfectly timed.

[i_am_not_jon_ames]

It's on Go for me.

Is it at the end of the episode, or elsewhere? Using iPad, not browser. Thanks in advance.

[Chiggs]

What a cheery ending!

[Vyrance]

So...does Larry plan to come out of hiding and do a review? Or has he quit...

He posted the other day that he'd be releasing his reviews for episodes 6 & 7 together. Thankfully!

Woops, beaten!

[jett]

This episode proves how bland the direction of the show is. Theon finding the "children" should've been cut like the scene in Silence Of The Lambs spoiler when the movie makes you believe the police are at Buffalo Bill's doorstep. Alternating between two unrelated scenes but edited in a way that makes you think they are in sequence. At the end of the season the unedited scene of Bran 'n friends on the run or whatever is shown. That's my idea anyway. Nobody fell for it in the NO SPOILERS threads. I was looking forward to reactions of horrified people. :|

[BlueTsunami]

Also, I want to say, I don't know how to feel about the scene with Jaime. They seemed to flip Cersei and Jaime's characterizations. Jaime is coming off way more unrelatable by killing someone who admired him so.

[petethepanda]

Also, I want to say, I don't know how to feel about the scene with Jaime. They seemed to flip Cersei and Jaime's characterizations. Jaime is coming off a little more unrelatable by killing someone who admired him so.

I like it. ASOS So far in the show he's come off as more likable than he did in the books. If they didn't make him more overtly despicable like this then his change later on wouldn't feel earned. Though I suppose it's perhaps a bit too far in the other direction.

[Van Owen]

Is it at the end of the episode, or elsewhere? Using iPad, not browser. Thanks in advance.

Browser

[jett]

Also, I want to say, I don't know how to feel about the scene with Jaime. They seemed to flip Cersei and Jaime's characterizations. Jaime is coming off way more unrelatable by killing someone who admired him so.

The change I like is that of Catelyn's. Instead of being a beeatch and stealing Jaime away to exchange him for her daughters she's obviously gonna take him away to save him from getting killed. I agree that Jaime randomly killing some poor guy is out of character.

[Dany M]

Like father like son.

Well, they're both assholes.

[Azrael]

I thought it was a great episode. All the new scenes this season with Arya and Tywin have been terrific, Dany's story arc is more exciting than the book, Lena Headey delivered a very strong performance that should silence some of the haters, and Jaime's new scenes were terrific as well. I do think Jaime's escape and recapture was rushed and should have been drawn out over a pair of episodes, although I do understand they were trying to squeeze in thematic parallels this episode with Theon and Jaime and why they took the approach they did.

[Magnus]

The change I like is that of Catelyn's. Instead of being a beeatch and stealing Jaime away to exchange him for her daughters she's obviously gonna take him away to save him from getting killed. I agree that Jaime randomly killing some poor guy is out of character.

This is the dude who shoved Bran out of a window to try and kill him, and the man who'd fight a "war for Cersei's cunt". I have absolutely no trouble believing he'd do anything to anyone to escape, short of torture.

Regarding the final scene: [COK]Yeah, the other thread is a clear indicator to me that the average viewer isn't going to buy this. The editing should have panned out much like another poster above (was it you jett?) said; introduce SOME confusion at least. This reads too one-sidedly.

And holy shit, completely forgot about that scene with Dany and the Thirteen. Was anyone else just plain jaw-hangin?

[COK]None of that happened in COK, right? lol Curse my addled memory!

[krameriffic]

I like it. ASOS So far in the show he's come off as more likable than he did in the books. If they didn't make him more overtly despicable like this then his change later on wouldn't feel earned. Though I suppose it's perhaps a bit too far in the other direction.

AFFC I'm feeling a lot of the sympathetic characterization that they get in AFFC coming through at this point, particularly the stuff that happens when Jaime is with Brienne and back in King's Landing as the 1-handed Captain of the Kingsguard. When you read the first 2 books, it's easy to think of them as LANNISTER ARE BAD because aside from Tyrion you generally don't like anyone associated with them. You don't really come to like them until they start getting their own POV chapters.

[Dany M]

Wait, 2 episodes left? I thought we had 10 episodes, is it going to be a 2 hour finale or something?

[Amir0x]

Tywin + Arya is obviously the best new addition, shit is ace.
Iceland is the real winner this episode. Every scene makes me go :o because of how goddamn gorgeous it is.

Iceland and Catelyn. Continued amazing performance. "And gag him!" was perfectly delivered.

Ygritte is also spot on, performance wise. Tyrion and Cersei scene was well done, really cutting through to Cersei's humanity.

Unsure how to feel about Jaime's story yet. I liked the discussion he had with Cat, but the discussion with his relative dragged on a bit too long and the result seemed a little extreme if we're to <rest of series> believe his changes.

Dany's story I can go either way. I have to see where they take this.

[jett]

This is the dude who shoved Bran out of a window to try and kill him, and the man who'd fight a "war for Cersei's cunt". I have absolutely no trouble believing he'd do anything to anyone to escape, short of torture. Regarding the final scene: [COK]Yeah, the other thread is a clear indicator to me that the average viewer isn't going to buy this. The editing should have panned out much like another poster above (was it you jett?) said; introduce SOME confusion at least. This reads too one-sidedly. And holy shit, completely forgot about that scene with Dany and the Thirteen. Was anyone else just plain jaw-hangin? [COK]None of that happened in COK, right? lol Curse my addled memory!

Yes it was me, it's like 3 posts above yours. :P

And I guess being reminded of what Jaime did to Bran makes the change more believable, yeah. The scenes in Qarth are almost complete fabrication. I'm becoming worried about THOTU.

[Amir0x]

Wait, 2 episodes left? I thought we had 10 episodes, is it going to be a 2 hour finale or something?

There are three episodes left

The Prince of Winterfell - May 20
Blackwater - May 27
Valar Morghulis - June 3

[krameriffic]

I thought it was a great episode. All the new scenes this season with Arya and Tywin have been terrific, Dany's story arc is more exciting than the book, Lena Headey delivered a very strong performance that should silence some of the haters, and Jaime's new scenes were terrific as well. I do think Jaime's escape and recapture was rushed and should have been drawn out over a pair of episodes, although I do understand they were trying to squeeze in thematic parallels this episode with Theon and Jaime and why they took the approach they did.

The Qarth storyline has been completely changed. I'm not sure how they are going to bring Dany to Belwas and Arstan at this point. Killing off the rest of the merchant lords is just a really big departure from the books.

[Magnus]

Yes it was me, it's like 3 posts above yours. :P And I guess being reminded of what Jaime did to Bran makes the change more believable, yeah. The scenes in Qarth are almost complete fabrication. I'm becoming worried about THOTU.

[COK]The use of simple, practical effects in all of Pyat's 'tricks' so far has me actually pretty confident that THOTU will be amazing, snappy, concise, and visually powerful. I can hope anyway, haha.

I...really fucking need to get on finishing AFFC and ADWD. I need to never fear another spoiler box again when it comes to this series. I have no excuse. lol

[petethepanda]

Wow, the ending was just terrible. What the hell? The direction in this show has been dreadful lately. Shot awkwardly, edited/paced awkwardly, whatever the hell was going on on Theon's face. Weird as shit fade to black at the end. It's too bad, this episode had been pretty good up until that point.

ACOK And WOW did they fuck up the fake-out. Every person I watched it with who hadn't read the books immediately went "yeah there's no chance that's Bran and Rickon."

I didn't like the "oh noes the dragons are gone" thing but I'm liking how they're messing with Qarth stuff now. Way more interesting.

[Zabka]

The change I like is that of Catelyn's. Instead of being a beeatch and stealing Jaime away to exchange him for her daughters she's obviously gonna take him away to save him from getting killed. I agree that Jaime randomly killing some poor guy is out of character.

Nothing random about it. He would've done that to anyone they put in the cell with him. There's really no boundaries after trying to kill an innocent kid.

[series]I think the obvious foreshadowing was to keep trust with the audience, which is something that GRRM lost by the last book for me. Too many fake deaths and resurrections that every incident has become suspicious which takes away a lot of the impact.

[jett]

Tywin + Arya is obviously the best new addition, shit is ace. Iceland is the real winner this episode. Every scene makes me go :o because of how goddamn gorgeous it is. Iceland and Catelyn. Continued amazing performance. "And gag him!" was perfectly delivered. Ygritte is also spot on, performance wise. Tyrion and Cersei scene was well done, really cutting through to Cersei's humanity. Unsure how to feel about Jaime's story yet. I liked the discussion he had with Cat, but the discussion with his relative dragged on a bit too long and the result seemed a little extreme if we're to <rest of series> believe his changes. Dany's story I can go either way. I have to see where they take this.

You know what, I don't care for Iceland, it's totally clashing with my imagined version of of the land beyond the wall. It doesn't make any sense honestly, who the hell can live in that place.

[Amir0x]

You know what, I don't care for Iceland, it's totally clashing with my imagined version of of the land beyond the wall. It doesn't make any sense honestly, who the hell can live in that place.

the same type of people who live in extremely cold regions now?

[Dragon]

You know what, I don't care for Iceland, it's totally clashing with my imagined version of of the land beyond the wall. It doesn't make any sense honestly, who the hell can live in that place.

Yeah they should have filmed in Greenland.

[jett]

the same type of people who live in extremely cold regions now?

plz, there is nothing in that place. nowhere to take refuge. it looks pretty, but it is nonsense.

[a Master Ninja]

You know what, I don't care for Iceland, it's totally clashing with my imagined version of of the land beyond the wall. It doesn't make any sense honestly, who the hell can live in that place.

You know nothing, jett.

[Magnus]

Someone remind me...

[COK]Does Mance appear in COK?