[RatskyWatsky]

They're apparently going to plant seeds of a new case this season, but they don't want to take the focus off of the Rosie mystery.

[-Pyromaniac-]

They're apparently going to plant seeds of a new case this season, but they don't want to take the focus off of the Rosie mystery.

who the hell is rosie

[RatskyWatsky]

who the hell is rosie

She's the girl who the teacher tried to smuggle out of the country so she didn't have to be circumcised, I think.

[-Pyromaniac-]

She's the girl who the teacher tried to smuggle out of the country so she didn't have to be circumcised, I think.

ohh yeahh and then the janitor had sex with her with a mask on

think I remember enough to go into season 2

[ivysaur12]

ohh yeahh and then the janitor had sex with her with a mask on think I remember enough to go into season 2

Let me help:

Rain
ROSIE!
Rain
I wanna leave to start a new life. Wait, no.
Rain
ROSIE!
Gotta catch the killer!
Devil mask
Rain
Pedophile (who was a power ranger)
Rain
T-Shirt
POLL NUMBERS!
ROSIE!
HAI GUYS IT'S RAINING IN SEATTLE
Prostitute
Rain
Rain
Rain
Got the killer!
TROLOLOLOLOL

[RatskyWatsky]

ohh yeahh and then the janitor had sex with her with a mask on think I remember enough to go into season 2

Yep that's the one. She's also prone to heavy nosebleeds, which I think is an important clue to remember.

[eLZhi]

They're apparently going to plant seeds of a new case this season, but they don't want to take the focus off of the Rosie mystery.

I wonder if they're going to go off of Forbrydelsen 2, or come up with something of their own. If it's the latter... Yeah, probably won't be there, cause I've still no idea why I was there to begin with.

[RatskyWatsky]

I wonder if they're going to go off of Forbrydelsen 2, or come up with something of their own. If it's the latter... Yeah, probably won't be there, cause I've still no idea why I was there to begin with.

It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do, for sure.

[TripOpt55]

If nothing else this thread should be fun.

[RatskyWatsky]

AMC: Season 1 recap
Huff Post: Season 1 refresher

[smokeymicpot]

Swedish crooked cop would be a good addition to BB, I think. He can just be transplanted over there.

To bad he is already going to be RoboCop.

[Buckethead]

who the hell is rosie

someone photoshop that onto the original poster...

"who the hell is rosie larsen?!"

[sixteen-bit]

Looking forward to more red herrings.

[RatskyWatsky]

Movieweb: Positive

I know there are many who practically swore off the show after last season's finale, and that's a shame, because I think this season will be just as compelling, if not more so, than the first season. Who killed Rosie Larsen? We will find out in due time, but the most important question is why Rosie Larsen was killed? To that end, they seem to be setting up some fascinating possibilities that could have much bigger implications than last season, and I can't wait to see how it all plays out.

SFGate: Positive

I don't know if Veena Sud has made any changes in response to the uproar with which "The Killing" exited last season, or to complaints about how the mystery unfolded. (Right now, she's not talking.) What I do know: The investigation is ongoing while losses mount, it's still raining, and I'm still hooked on the show.

[ElectricBlue187]

I think you mean Vancouver. Anyways, the pilot for the show was gorgeous and great. I hope the new season looks good and improves where the first season failed.

Vancouver? This show happens in Seattle, where it rains damn near constantly.

The funniest thing about this show is we were just finding out what rosie was doing on Friday evening at the end of the show, we still have TWO GODDAMN DAYS they could fill in with all sorts of red herrings for cop lady to chase down.

[RatskyWatsky]

Vancouver? This show happens in Seattle, where it rains damn near constantly. The funniest thing about this show is we were just finding out what rosie was doing on Friday evening at the end of the show, we still have TWO GODDAMN DAYS they could fill in with all sorts of red herrings for cop lady to chase down.

It's set in Seattle, but it's filmed in Vancouver.

[RatskyWatsky]

USA Today: Mixed

The good news is that you will get answers. The bad news is that they don't so much advance the story as circle around it, which may be the real reason behind the disenchantment with a series that had seemed so promising. The problem wasn't so much the cliffhanger as what led up to it: a string of weekly red herrings, suspects introduced only to be shot down, that had begun to test fans' patience. We expect shows like The Killing to delay their resolution; we just don't expect the delaying tactics to be so obvious. For now, the suspicion remains that there just isn't enough story to sustain 26 episodes (which may be why the Danes told it in 20). Let's hope that proves to be wrong. This is one instance in which it would be nice to be fooled.

[BertramCooper]

Hooray! The Killing is back!

[RatskyWatsky]

AMC: Who Was Rosie Larsen? (looks like AMC heard you, pyro)

CraveOnline: 'The Killing Season 2' Red Carpet Video

[blahblah...blah]

Omg guys, I love this show. I also love The Walking Dead, the later seasons of Dexter, and most of Showtime's programming. I have such good taste in TV.

[RatskyWatsky]

NY Post: 3 out of 4 stars

Is the new season worth hanging onto in the hopes we’ll have resolution? From what I’ve seen, the answer is yes. And no. The premiere is actually very good. Of course, it would be a whole lot better if there were a new investigation into a new crime. All that being said, there simply is no better acting on TV this season and, if there is, it, too, is on AMC. Particularly brilliant again is Brent Sexton (Stan), who is just so good, he shines in his darkness — a huge accomplishment, considering he’s in the company of Mireille Enos, Joel Kinnaman, (Holder) and the others. Do I want to watch the rest of the season? I don’t know. Will I? Of course.

Vulture: Negative

The Killing is still CBS potboiler hackwork wrapping itself in art-house pretension. The problem ultimately isn't that the show is ludicrous, but that it's not ludicrous enough. Despite very slight improvements, this series still seems deluded as to what it is and blind to what it could become. And that's too bad. If Sud and company had the courage (or the ability) to be truly, deeply, delightfully weird and drive the whole thing in a more Twin Peaks/American Horror Story–type of direction, viewer gripes about pacing problems, inconsistent characterizations, and yanked-from-the-writers'-alimentary-canal plot twists would disappear, and The Killing might seem like a vibrantly nasty pleasure: a hothouse flower nourished by gloomy rain.

[Emerson]

Kind of sounds like this season hasn't really made any changes or improvements from last season. The most effective thing about this show is the atmosphere, and there is something enthralling about it. But it's so frustrating in every other way. People seem to "like" it or at least continue watching it despite themselves. That's what I did last season. This season I'm trying to just not begin watching it in the first place.

[Dany M]

They should have the pilot up the following day on AMC, no? I'll probably catch that before I decide to get the season pass but the reviews seem promising..

God damn, Game of Thrones, Mad Men and The Killing.

[BertramCooper]

Kind of sounds like this season hasn't really made any changes or improvements from last season. The most effective thing about this show is the atmosphere, and there is something enthralling about it. But it's so frustrating in every other way. People seem to "like" it or at least continue watching it despite themselves. That's what I did last season. This season I'm trying to just not begin watching it in the first place.

It's not surprising, seeing as though Veena Sud thinks she's on the same level as Matthew Weiner and Vince Gilligan. Woman is delusional.

[ivysaur12]

The Killing would not work better if it started to become more like Twin Peaks. In fact, one of the only things I like about the series direction is that it's not trying to be a Twin Peaks-esque murder mystery.

[Timbuktu]

It's not surprising, seeing as though Veena Sud thinks she's on the same level as Matthew Weiner and Vince Gilligan. Woman is delusional.

I don't get the attention she's getting. It's a fucking remake and she made it worst than the original inevery respect. It's not like it's her idea or anything.

[blahblah...blah]

I'm now worried people think my post above was serious. To be clear: it wasn't, and this show is fucking atrocious.

[CloudWolf]

It's a fucking remake and she made it worst than the original inevery respect.

Which is a feat in itself, considering the fact that the original was also terrible. I thought it couldn't get much worse, but I was wrong.

[Emerson]

The Killing would not work better if it started to become more like Twin Peaks. In fact, one of the only things I like about the series direction is that it's not trying to be a Twin Peaks-esque murder mystery.

Totally agree. What I wanted from this show was an atmospheric murder mystery/police investigation that made sense and introduced a different case every season. They ballsed that right up with the lack of realism in the case and lost me for good with the cliffhanger finale. If they'd just done that I'd have loved it like I did the pilot episode.

[RatskyWatsky]

The Killing would not work better if it started to become more like Twin Peaks. In fact, one of the only things I like about the series direction is that it's not trying to be a Twin Peaks-esque murder mystery.

Agreed. I'm baffled that the Vulture critic wanted The Killing to be more like Twin Peaks/American Horror Story. That would have been awful.

[Chichikov]

Vancouver? This show happens in Seattle, where it rains damn near constantly.

It doesn't rain like that in Seattle.
Movies/TV shows always get it wrong.
Seattle has long periods of overcasts and drizzle.
You rarely get heavy sheeting rain you like you see in this series.

And generally speaking, it really doesn't look anything like Seattle, at all, on any level.

p.s.
For the record, neither issues bother me that much, just saying.

[terrdactycalsrock]

I really wished they would have caught Rosie's killer in season 1. Because thats what all of the other episodes were building up towards, but now that some time has passed I dont remember anything about the investigation. And I just couldnt care less because Im simply not invested in these characters anymore

[BertramCooper]

I can't wait to see the numbers for the season premiere.

I want to see how many masochists actually stick around after last year's finale.

[Mgoblue201]

Agreed. I'm baffled that the Vulture critic wanted The Killing to be more like Twin Peaks/American Horror Story. That would have been awful.

Especially since the entire legitimacy of the show is built around its hyper-realistic setting and spare aesthetic. There is every reason to think that it would work if the writing was actually compelling. The show's failures have nothing to do with audacity or boldness.

[RatskyWatsky]

Alan Sepinwall of HitFix: C+

So many people were angry about the finale's non-resolution, and even if many of us had a longer list of grievances, the whole "When are we going to find out who killed her?" dialogue was going to strangle the show. Whatever other improvements were being made, expectations did have to be managed, and they couldn't just leave that issue hanging out there. On the other, when you go in knowing that [Rosie's killer won't be revealed until the season finale], it makes the plot even more irrelevant. When you couple the schedule with the show's weirdly linear, one-suspect-at-a-time approach, it means that any information revealed in the first half to two-thirds of this season is going to be largely irrelevant. And yet, that knowledge, plus my growing disappointment with the show as the first season went along, helped recalibrate my expectations in a good way. Not only do I know not to care about the investigation, but the bar for the show is now so incredibly low that it didn't take much for the season two premiere to clear it. The performances are still good, and now the characterization is a bit better. When you add that to the fine atmosphere (even if the frequent downpours seem comical even for a show set in Seattle) and you view the mystery itself as a kind of necessary evil that allows you to see the parts of the show that do work, then it's not bad. It's not great like AMC conditioned us to anticipate with its first two shows. It may not even be good yet. (And is certainly not good enough to return to the weekly blog rotation.) But it's better. It doesn't quite live up to a promise made to Linden by a superior that "I think you're going to find things are quite different around here from now on," but it's better. And after my rage over the season one finale, that's something.

Toronto: Mixed

The good news is that Sunday’s two-hour opener answers several key questions in relatively rapid fashion and in ways that don’t seem totally unreasonable. The bad news is that it also puts Sarah back at Square 1.

Especially since the entire legitimacy of the show is built around its hyper-realistic setting and spare aesthetic. There is every reason to think that it would work if the writing was actually compelling. The show's failures have nothing to do with audacity or boldness.

Yep. Writing is the main issue. The realism and aesthetic are some of the finer points of the series.

[-Pyromaniac-]

AMC: Who Was Rosie Larsen? (looks like AMC heard you, pyro)

lol that's pretty funny

I won't be watching live because of wrestlemania but I will be sure to watch it right after. This thread should be amusing when to catch up on when I'm done.

[lucius]

I watched the whole 1st season on Netflix, really well done show, yeah could have had more answers at the end but I enojoyed it. In fact I say this show Game of Thrones, Justified and Downtown Abbey are the best cable shows out there right now.

[SCHUEY F1]

I'm in for Season 2.

[Emerson]

I was waiting to hear Sepinwall's opinion and it's about what I expected. Pretty much solidified for me that I won't be watching.

[xbhaskarx]

I might follow this thread just to see how much worse the show gets.

Yup, this and The Walking Dead.

[-Pyromaniac-]

I watched the whole 1st season on Netflix, really well done show, yeah could have had more answers at the end but I enojoyed it. In fact I say this show Game of Thrones, Justified and Downtown Abbey are the best cable shows out there right now.

don't let anyone see this, take it back and run!!

Yup, this and The Walking Dead.

except the walking dead has been rising in quality!

[BertramCooper]

If this show somehow gets renewed for a third season, I think all five people who watched the entire season of Rubicon will band together and murder every single AMC exec.

[RatskyWatsky]

Today is the day, ladies and gents!

KCStar: Mixed

Even before critics vented their spleens in righteous outrage over last year's finale, the show had developed a limp. In their effort to lather the Larsen case over a full season, the writers found themselves backed into narrative corners with too much time to fill. So they frantically threw out red-herrings and eye-rolling plot contrivances like "24" used to do. It was sort of like a basketball team trying to run out the clock and looking foolish in the process. Moreover, the longer we spent with the show's brooding characters, the more we came to realize that they were an unbearably dour and detestable bunch (though, the goofy/ quirky Holder remains oddly captivating). So the thought of spending 13 more hours with them in dark, rainy Seattle and being teased with clues that lead to dead ends doesn't exactly make our eyes light up in anticipation. Of course, the show could always redeem itself, but for now, "The Killing" seems a lot less thrilling.

Salon: Negative

When I let myself hate “The Killing,” I can honestly rave about it: If you liked it before, you will like it again, and if you hated it before, you can hate it again. When it’s all over, we can compare notes about who had a better time.

LA Times: Positive

Although the mood has changed somewhat — which is to say, it has grown even more dark and dour, with a new note of paranoia — the two-hour opener does not represent in any significant sense a change of plan, style or approach. Though some specific questions will be cleared up, or at least made less muddy, it will not leave you any closer to the bottom of the mystery, as there is still the rest of the season to fill out. Billboards advertising the series' first season asked "Who killed Rosie Larsen?" But the bigger mysteries here belong to the living — nearly every major character has had some dark secret to reveal, and it's the progress through these that draw us forward. (One of last season's best episodes saw Sarah and Holder off the case for a day, as they searched for her missing son and guardedly got to know each other better.) What will become of Sarah matters more, finally, than what happened to Rosie.

[YianGaruga]

If this show somehow gets renewed for a third season, I think all five people who watched the entire season of Rubicon will band together and murder every single AMC exec.

I am one of those five people. I LOVED Rubicon.

I also marathoned S1 of the Killing and really liked it. I guess I like slow TV with interesting characters and settings.

[big ander]

Subbing to the thread to watch the rage

I am one of those five people. I LOVED Rubicon. I also marathoned S1 of the Killing and really liked it. I guess I like slow TV with interesting characters and settings.

despise posts like this because it implies everyone who doesn't like it has bad taste. I like slow tv, I like interesting characters and settings. the killing fails to connect on just about every character level (the WORST offense here is with Rosie, you have to make us care about the victim and this show has completely bungled that. at least linden's a decent character), the setting is cliche and uninteresting, every police officer is stupid from episode 1, and there was zero character growth over an entire season. The killing is boring and annoying in all the wrong ways.

[YianGaruga]

Subbing to the thread to watch the rage despise posts like this because it implies everyone who doesn't like it has bad taste. I like slow tv, I like interesting characters and settings. the killing fails to connect on just about every character level (the WORST offense here is with Rosie, you have to make us care about the victim and this show has completely bungled that. at least linden's a decent character), the setting is cliche and uninteresting, every police officer is stupid from episode 1, and there was zero character growth over an entire season. The killing is boring and annoying in all the wrong ways.

Nowhere did I imply that my taste is better than anyone elses. I definitely understand why people wouldn't like the shows I like.

What I wanted to say is that it seems I am the one with weird taste, since I absolutely loved Rubicon and The Killing. If I watched Killing as it aired, i.e. weekly, I might have a different opinion about it, I am sure.

[big ander]

Nowhere did I imply that my taste is better than anyone elses. I definitely understand why people wouldn't like the shows I like. What I wanted to say is that it seems I am the one with weird taste, since I absolutely loved Rubicon and The Killing. If I watched Killing as it aired, i.e. weekly, I might have a different opinion about it, I am sure.

I really liked Rubicon. Killing's a lot different.

[oatmeal]

Few shows have the atmosphere that this one does...but damnit if they didn't fuck up at every chance.

The first few episodes were pretty awesome TV...and then they spun off into pointless trash.

Had the Senator or whatever actually been the killer, that would have been satisfying.

I'll tune in, but...I won't care.

[squidyj]

If this show somehow gets renewed for a third season, I think all five people who watched the entire season of Rubicon will band together and murder every single AMC exec.

RUbicon was amazing. Those bastards :l

[RatskyWatsky]

Damon Lindelolf sez something about The Killing