Nub
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Originally Posted by Splat: View Post
I assume you checked under the platform?
Yep, lol. I checked under that thing ten times at least, and just now found him. I feel pretty dumb now :(

But anyways, does anyone know where the intermediate art books are for spear break and summon earth?
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The Awesomest
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Sooo I'm in Agniratha. Reflections and questions: I took some time off to do sidequests and I got up to level 68. Had a nice time until I got to the main part of the city. I started to fight a mechon, then a Face runs downstairs out of nowhere and joins the fight. Freaked me out a little. Later on, we were at the stairs in a different part of the city and I used a chain attack to finish off a mechon, but before the chain attack is over my dudes run upstairs and start attacking a mechon I didn't even know was there! Crazy.
I fought two uniques, too. Both were right around my level, but I struggled with both of them. I got one, but as soon as I had the other one on the ropes, some random blue flying mechon comes in out of nowhere and the fight is over almost immediately. I guess I should start actually using gems, huh.

I was using Shulk/Riki/Dunban as my go-to team for hard stuff, because of Monado Shield and their healing moves and all that. But, I was thinking of maybe using Melia/Shulk/Riki for her ether craziness and to build affinity, but my only concern is that there isn't a tank in that party. Will that party see me safely through Agniratha? Does the CPU use Shulk well? I haven't tried it yet but I'm concerned he'll use his Monado arts more than I'd like, leaving it unavailable for when we really need it.


Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
And an option to automatically transfer gems would have been really nice. I'm sure people would complain about it if it popped up and asked every time you changed armor, but it's still better than having to dig through your gems and re-equip.
Wait what? I thought it already did this.
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StAidan
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
Yep, lol. I checked under that thing ten times at least, and just now found him. I feel pretty dumb now :(
I did exactly the same thing. Spent probably 20-30 minutes running around looking for the guy, and finally gave up and left. Went back a few days later and there he was, even though I'd swear he wasn't there before.
Exeunt
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
I was using Shulk/Riki/Dunban as my go-to team for hard stuff, because of Monado Shield and their healing moves and all that. But, I was thinking of maybe using Melia/Shulk/Riki for her ether craziness and to build affinity, but my only concern is that there isn't a tank in that party. Will that party see me safely through Agniratha? Does the CPU use Shulk well? I haven't tried it yet but I'm concerned he'll use his Monado arts more than I'd like, leaving it unavailable for when we really need it.
The party you're considering switching to is actually a favourite of mine which served me quite well through a lot of the game. The biggest problem—is like you mentioned—(not really spoilers but I'll tag it since you did) the lack of a tank. Riki takes hits quite well thanks to his massive HP but since he's more of a supporter he won't draw aggro like Reyn or Dunban. If you use Melia's Arts a lot (which you should) there is also a good chance of drawing aggro, and with low HP that isn't the best scenario. Shulk is really good to have for his Monado Arts and he doesn't really use them too much in battle; I can't remember a single time when I wasn't able to warn him and put up a Shield for instance. This is a pain if you run into an enemy with Spike effects however. Riki and Shulk both seem to have good AI as far as I can tell, and Shulk uses Shaker Edge if you topple an enemy more often than not.

That party worked really well for me but different playstyles might mean you don't find it as good. That said, I doubt there's anything to lose by giving it a shot.

Right now I've defeated Final Marcus and Despotic Arsene, and thanks to the latter I now have all the Art manuals in the game. Ancient Daedala wiped me out before I was able to take it down; unfortunately I don't have Melia's skill which halves Spike damage yet, but I think there is one that raises Art accuracy. If I can use this to remove the resistance to Monado Purge then maybe it's possible I can take Daedala on without juggling gems around too much.
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I beat the game. Wow... that ending really, completely had my head spinning. I just sat there staring at the screen for like 10 minutes after the credits finished.

I was really thrown for a loop by that final stage: our solar system (which, by the way, looked absolutely beautiful). The entire game I was under the impression that this was set on some fantasy planet in some fantasy universe, completely detached from ours. Then you see that sequence with Klaus and Meyneth on the satellite orbiting Earth, and they are working on some kind of Big Bang experiment when Klaus goes full retard and implodes the entire universe. Holy shit lol. I really enjoyed it. Completely unexpected, and on a scale that I couldn't have imagined. I like how it's still left open for some interpretation. Like the whole Alvis thing. Is the whole universe of Xenoblade simply existing in a computer program (Alvis)? Or did Klaus' experiment actually wipe everything out, save for the computer he created (Alvis), who retained the memories/personalities/souls of Klaus and Meyneth, and made them the gods of the new universe?

My head is so full of fuck.

I really wanted Shulk to kiss Fiora at the end. But oh well. Maybe he'll end up tapping Melia instead. She's hotter anyways. ;)
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Originally Posted by Luap: View Post
Maybe he'll end up tapping Melia instead. She's hotter anyways. ;)
She's 88, you sick bastard.
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Originally Posted by Wichu: View Post
She's 88, you sick bastard.
Even better man. All the experience of an older woman, with the body of an 18-year-old. Truly the best of both worlds.
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#4908

What has this thread become...
Luap
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Lol. Just a little tangent, my friend. Anyway, back to my point. DAT ENDING.

Some people say they'd like to see a sequel. I disagree. The ending was perfect and the whole point is that they don't know what's going to happen, but they head toward the future in harmony. A prequel, on the other hand, could be really interesting. But there isn't much to work with, because if I understand the story correctly this is the first cycle of life in Zanza's world where his creations were given higher intelligence and free thought.
The Awesomest
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Whoa... just got to the part most likely before the point of no return for timed sidequests...

They didn't tell me Mechonis would be unavailable >:( now I can't get all those drops and collectibles, and I'll never defeat Wise Gremory ):< Also, seeing Mechonis moving around in the background is really, really freaky D:
chaosblade
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
Whoa... just got to the part most likely before the point of no return for timed sidequests...

They didn't tell me Mechonis would be unavailable >:( now I can't get all those drops and collectibles, and I'll never defeat Wise Gremory ):< Also, seeing Mechonis moving around in the background is really, really freaky D:
The warning isn't specific, but you do get one before Junks goes to Mechonis Core. You can also revisit Central Factory and Agniratha (yes, they forgot to block that off) from Mechonis Core but I'm not sure you can do a whole lot there before they are closed off permanently.
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Originally Posted by Luap: View Post
Even better man. All the experience of an older woman, with the body of an 18-year-old. Truly the best of both worlds.
Melia is best girl by far IMO, was sad that they did everything in their power to screw her over both in romance and in family.
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#4913

Picked this up today.

Not really a great fan of other JRPG's, but after reading all the positive reviews and the impressions on here, I decided to broaden my horizons and give it a whirl.

It was a choice between this and Pandora's Tower...

Hope I made the right choice, GAF!
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Originally Posted by Jaymo: View Post
Picked this up today.

Not really a great fan of other JRPG's, but after reading all the positive reviews and the impressions on here, I decided to broaden my horizons and give it a whirl.

It was a choice between this and Pandora's Tower...

Hope I made the right choice, GAF!
Quick tip. When you get tutorials be sure to go into the tutorial menu itself after the initial pop up. There is sometimes an extra tutorial on the subject you were just shown going into more detail. You can also sort them and quest as well to make the list more manageable. Get in the habit of targeting everything as well. Travel at night can also be dangerous too. Not Dragon's Dogma I believe. There are actual stars and moonlight but dangerous all the same as different creatures come out.
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chaosblade
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Yeah, the game is honestly pretty simple once you get it all figured out, but there are a lot of mechanics and concepts to wrap your head around and it might be a bit more difficult if you don't play other JRPGs. So taking advantage of the tutorials will be worth your time.

Some other good tips in the OP. A lot of people play for a long time without taking proper advantage of quick travel for instance, and I don't see how. That would be really annoying.

Probably a good choice though, Pandora's Tower looks pretty mediocre to me and I'm not disappointed at all it's not announced for NA. If any console JRPG this generation is likely to resonate well with someone who doesn't play JRPGs, this is probably the best bet.
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Thanks for the tips, guys. Will get a good sesh in on this tonight, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
Probably a good choice though, Pandora's Tower looks pretty mediocre to me and I'm not disappointed at all it's not announced for NA. If any console JRPG this generation is likely to resonate well with someone who doesn't play JRPGs, this is probably the best bet.
It's not a mediocre game at all, and for someone who doesn't play jrpgs pandroa is the better choice from a genre point of view, xb ofc is the better game overall, but pandora ss probably the best 3d castlevania out there :P, and has a real nice feeling to it. But yeah... offtopic...

It has been a while since I last came in contact with anything xb related, until my random playlist chose to play "Prologue B" and damn... I can't complain enough about lazy game musicians today who think an "epic" orchestraded track is an excuse for a lack of ideas and boring melodies... but, I just can't say anything bad about this track, and I wonder why this one isn't brough up more and this games soundtrack discussions. Imho it's the best "boring" track there is :P
Somehow I really like how they fitted the main theme right in there but at the same time making it more exciting and striving.
It also reminds me of terranigma, which is always a good thing, and another good example of how a whole soundtrack can evolve around a single simple melody.
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Originally Posted by Zornica: View Post
It's not a mediocre game at all, and for someone who doesn't play jrpgs pandroa is the better choice from a genre point of view, xb ofc is the better game overall, but pandora ss probably the best 3d castlevania out there :P, and has a real nice feeling to it. But yeah... offtopic...

It has been a while since I last came in contact with anything xb related, until my random playlist chose to play "Prologue B" and damn... I can't complain enough about lazy game musicians today who think an "epic" orchestraded track is an excuse for a lack of ideas and boring melodies... but, I just can't say anything bad about this track, and I wonder why this one isn't brough up more and this games soundtrack discussions. Imho it's the best "boring" track there is :P
Somehow I really like how they fitted the main theme right in there but at the same time making it more exciting and striving.
It also reminds me of terranigma, which is always a good thing, and another good example of how a whole soundtrack can evolve around a single simple melody.
I really like that track. It's actually one of my favorites for the whole game, doesn't get enough love.

And yeah, I didn't count Pandora's Tower as a JRPG anyway, it's much more of an action game based on everything I've seen. Calling it a "RPG" seems on par with calling Call of Duty a "RPG" because you gain experience and level things up.
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So, I'm trying to find the NPC Bozatrox after the Mechonis reawakens. The Wikia says she's on Digit 2 but I can't find her I need those hox daylight spurs!
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
So, I'm trying to find the NPC Bozatrox after the Mechonis reawakens. The Wikia says she's on Digit 2 but I can't find her I need those hox daylight spurs!
Did you do the quests involving that NPC? They might not remain available if you don't, not 100% sure.

But I think she is on the "dock" area you have to climb down to.
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
So, I'm trying to find the NPC Bozatrox after the Mechonis reawakens. The Wikia says she's on Digit 2 but I can't find her I need those hox daylight spurs!
If I remember right, there's a platform at sea level around there that she's on along with a few other people.
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So I'm up to the swanp area on the other side of Colony 6. I wish there were a built-in screenshot tool. I also wish the minimap was 3-D, like Metroid Prime's minimap. I also wish there was sort of medium-speed travel, so I could go somewhat quickly without having to miss out on the scenery like you do with the fast travel. Anyway, despite these things I wished the game had, I'm really liking it so far. The world is great to explore, and I'm liking the story so far, too. I'm playing with the voices in Japanese, and I'm surprised at how many words I'm recognizing, even though I don't speak Japanese. Although, that may be because they say each other's names a lot, and also throw in some English words occasionally...
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Originally Posted by cooljeanius: View Post
So I'm up to the swanp area on the other side of Colony 6. I wish there were a built-in screenshot tool. I also wish the minimap was 3-D, like Metroid Prime's minimap. I also wish there was sort of medium-speed travel, so I could go somewhat quickly without having to miss out on the scenery like you do with the fast travel. Anyway, despite these things I wished the game had, I'm really liking it so far. The world is great to explore, and I'm liking the story so far, too. I'm playing with the voices in Japanese, and I'm surprised at how many words I'm recognizing, even though I don't speak Japanese. Although, that may be because they say each other's names a lot, and also throw in some English words occasionally...
So you know English, dont know Japanese, yet you have it set to Japanese anyways.

Makes sense!
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Well, my playtime now clocks in at 168 hours and 19 minutes, and all the highest-level unique monsters have fallen. I farmed some Debuff Resist crystals from Deinos Saurus, and in so doing, unlocked Melia's Spike-reduction skill. A couple links after that and Ancient Daedala went down much more easily; I defeated it twice in a row for the Night Vision cylinders without breaking too much of a sweat. After that point I switched the seventh out for Melia to beat the last two monsters with good old Shulk and Riki. Blizzard Belgazas bested me twice thanks to Mountain Stamp coming without a vision and probably just poor playing on the second failed attempt, but it too bit the dust.

Part of the reason I'll be pretty satisfied to put the game down at this point is how the Abaasy battle turned out. I thought it was all over when I accidentally selected Monado Shield instead of Monado Armour—I don't know if I got them mixed up in the heat of the moment or what—but I scraped my way past that mistake and a couple other tense moments along the way. At another point I accidentally triggered a battle with one of the level 99 enemies nearby but that turned out to be a non-issue despite my low HP; there were probably about three occasions on which I was really hoping that Riki would heal us which also turned out all right. The battle ended up going into the morning—ending my Night Vision bonus alongside all the night-based skill links—but the Party Gauge was high enough to weather the rest of the visions and Shulk dealt the final blow from behind. I was on edge for the whole battle but managed to take Abaasy down on the first attempt, which was a pretty high note to bring the "post-game" to a close.

The only thing left is to grind for achievements—which I might consider on a slow afternoon if I want to revisit the world—but the experience rewarded is meaningless now and I don't feel that compelled to fill the checklist. Part of me wishes there were more to do, yet at the same time I'm ready to end my current Xenoblade Chronicles adventure and come back to the game at some point in the future. Like I said earlier, I will write up my post-completion thoughts on the game after maybe a week or so when I have time to reflect on it. What I can say now is that I really enjoyed the game and I don't think I have ever poured this much time into a single non-Pokémon save file before. For anyone who's just starting now, I hope you give the game a chance and don't feel like you have to play at a certain pace or in a certain way. Hopefully the vast majority who pick up the title will find something great in it, and I highly recommend a purchase if you're on the fence.
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Originally Posted by cooljeanius: View Post
So I'm up to the swanp area on the other side of Colony 6. I wish there were a built-in screenshot tool. I also wish the minimap was 3-D, like Metroid Prime's minimap. I also wish there was sort of medium-speed travel, so I could go somewhat quickly without having to miss out on the scenery like you do with the fast travel. Anyway, despite these things I wished the game had, I'm really liking it so far. The world is great to explore, and I'm liking the story so far, too. I'm playing with the voices in Japanese, and I'm surprised at how many words I'm recognizing, even though I don't speak Japanese. Although, that may be because they say each other's names a lot, and also throw in some English words occasionally...
The English VA is really good, and it kind of blows my mind when people talk about it being bad. I'd honestly recommend it over the Japanese, the English track has a lot more life to it than what I've heard of the Japanese track (Dickson and Dunban especially), and some of the post-battle banter between various parties is pretty good and worth hearing.

And a 3D minimap would have been extremely helpful in one particular area you're not at yet. It does okay most of the time with different colors representing the height of the area, but that one area, yeesh it was bad.

Originally Posted by Exeunt: View Post
Well, my playtime now clocks in at 168 hours and 19 minutes, and all the highest-level unique monsters have fallen. I farmed some Debuff Resist crystals from Deinos Saurus, and in so doing, unlocked Melia's Spike-reduction skill. A couple links after that and Ancient Daedala went down much more easily; I defeated it twice in a row for the Night Vision cylinders without breaking too much of a sweat. After that point I switched the seventh out for Melia to beat the last two monsters with good old Shulk and Riki. Blizzard Belgazas bested me twice thanks to Mountain Stamp coming without a vision and probably just poor playing on the second failed attempt, but it too bit the dust.
Three? You missed one then (Despotic Arsene).
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Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
The English VA is really good, and it kind of blows my mind when people talk about it being bad. I'd honestly recommend it over the Japanese, the English track has a lot more life to it than what I've heard of the Japanese track (Dickson and Dunban especially), and some of the post-battle banter between various parties is pretty good and worth hearing.

And a 3D minimap would have been extremely helpful in one particular area you're not at yet. It does okay most of the time with different colors representing the height of the area, but that one area, yeesh it was bad.
I've grown much less tolerant of poor voice acting/acting over the last few years or so, but I really don't think that the English VA in the game was bad. There are a couple line-readings that sound a little off here and there and I think Riki's voice slips maybe one or two times (more if his trill isn't supposed to be inconsistent, but that doesn't seem to be the case). But the only time I didn't like the VA was for the (small spoilers beyond where you are) Nopon from Frontier Village. I thought the actors brought a lot to their respective characters, and I probably wouldn't like the characters or the battles as much if they had been of a lesser quality.

I do agree that a couple of areas could've used a 3D map, but I also didn't find it a huge detriment to the experience. I can think of maybe three areas off the top of my head that could've benefited a fair bit from such a thing—I'm guessing the one area you're referring to is the same one I called out for poor voice acting.

Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
Three? You missed one then (Despotic Arsene).
I think I posted about defeating Despotic Arsene and Final Marcus on Thursday or Friday; in any case, I reset at Arsene's treasure chest for the last Art manual I needed. I know I missed some unique monsters thanks to my Affinity Coin total, but fortunately the level 100+ ones weren't among them. I guess my wording was a little awkward but I used a different party for Daedala (Seventh, Shulk, and Riki) than Belgazas and Abaasy after it.
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Originally Posted by cooljeanius: View Post
So I'm up to the swanp area on the other side of Colony 6. I wish there were a built-in screenshot tool. I also wish the minimap was 3-D, like Metroid Prime's minimap. I also wish there was sort of medium-speed travel, so I could go somewhat quickly without having to miss out on the scenery like you do with the fast travel. .
Quickstep gems are your friend. But you might not have any yet.

Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
Did you do the quests involving that NPC? They might not remain available if you don't, not 100% sure.

But I think she is on the "dock" area you have to climb down to.
no :( I didn't see her on the dock. Her boyfriend was wondering if the was able to escape ):
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Originally Posted by Exeunt: View Post
I've grown much less tolerant of poor voice acting/acting over the last few years or so, but I really don't think that the English VA in the game was bad. There are a couple line-readings that sound a little off here and there and I think Riki's voice slips maybe one or two times (more if his trill isn't supposed to be inconsistent, but that doesn't seem to be the case). But the only time I didn't like the VA was for the (small spoilers beyond where you are) Nopon from Frontier Village. I thought the actors brought a lot to their respective characters, and I probably wouldn't like the characters or the battles as much if they had been of a lesser quality.

I do agree that a couple of areas could've used a 3D map, but I also didn't find it a huge detriment to the experience. I can think of maybe three areas off the top of my head that could've benefited a fair bit from such a thing—I'm guessing the one area you're referring to is the same one I called out for poor voice acting.
Actually, I was referring to Valak Mountain, particularly the western parts of the upper level. The map in some places doesn't seem to match your surroundings at all.

And yeah, that was the only stand out "bad" voice acting in the game. There were some other things here and there that weren't too great, but not "bad."
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Just wondering, but are there any good websites that show good art movesets for all of the characters?

Im about 47 hours in, and i want to get some different opinions/insights into what other people are doing.
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
Quickstep gems are your friend. But you might not have any yet.
The issue with quickstep gems is in all probability you'll spend more time forging and equipping them than you save from the movement boost they offer.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
Just wondering, but are there any good websites that show good art movesets for all of the characters?

Im about 47 hours in, and i want to get some different opinions/insights into what other people are doing.
Not that I know of, for the most part they're pretty balanced. Just pick whatever suits how you play. For example, if you're using Dunban as a tank, Heat Haze is probably not ideal since it removes all his aggro. If you use Reyn as a tank and have other party members that tend to draw aggro from him, you might want to have a lot of aggro up arts and arts that fill the talent gauge (for Mad Taunt).

Just things like that. There are probably some "ideal" setups, but honestly the game isn't hard enough on it's own to really necessitate using them. Delving into that would really only be useful for self-imposed challenges.
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Quote:
Reyn: Can't spell Reynbow without Reyn, baby!
7th: Dunban... I think you need to have a talk with Reyn.
Dunban: Let's just act like nothing happened...
I love the post-battle banter in this game.


Originally Posted by Starwolf_UK: View Post
The issue with quickstep gems is in all probability you'll spend more time forging and equipping them than you save from the movement boost they offer.
Really? I just stumbled across one, or got it in a quest or something.
pgtl_10
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(06-04-2012, 12:34 AM)
#4933

I'm at the 3rd Egil fight where charges up. I destroy the things that charge but I still can't hurt him and then he uses a move that kills me. How do I hurt him?
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Just got 7th. What arts should i be focusing on? Team combination?

I know this has probably been asked about 100 times so far lol
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Nearing point of no return and I want to use this Mechonis Key item that I got in a Hidden Village sidequest before the Mechonis is gone forever. What the heck do I do with it?
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
Just got 7th. What arts should i be focusing on? Team combination?

I know this has probably been asked about 100 times so far lol
Whatever you want to use that gets the job done, there are certainly some team strats that are OP but you can get by with just about anything.
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Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
Just got 7th. What arts should i be focusing on? Team combination?

I know this has probably been asked about 100 times so far lol
I sort of answered that above. You really can't go wrong with any team combination or art setup as long as you're thinking about what you're doing and not just throwing stuff together. A lot of people in this thread have ended up with different parties by the end.

Only thing that really matters is agility. Agility agility agility. Other than that, you can pretty much set up your party/characters however you want.

Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
Nearing point of no return and I want to use this Mechonis Key item that I got in a Hidden Village sidequest before the Mechonis is gone forever. What the heck do I do with it?
Isn't that just the thing that unlocks the door to lead to that area? I don't think it does anything else. Most of the key items only get used once before they're useless.
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Good point chaos.

Im level 56 right now, so its kind of nice to have level 52, 53 monsters to fight and kind of test everything out.
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Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post


Isn't that just the thing that unlocks the door to lead to that area? I don't think it does anything else. Most of the key items only get used once before they're useless.
I don't think so. I got it in the Wilted Flower quest.
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
I don't think so. I got it in the Wilted Flower quest.
I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. After you have that item, you should be able to receive two more quests in your current area; one will unlock the blocked-off door in the village and have you use the key in an area you find on the other side while the other controls something where Shulk and Fiora initially fought the Mechon in that same area. The NPCs that give those quests should be pretty easy to find, since that area is relatively small.
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(06-06-2012, 12:48 AM)
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I'm at the 3rd Egil fight where charges up. I destroy the things that charge but I still can't hurt him and then he uses a move that kills me. How do I hurt him?
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So I'm up to Makna Forest, just got Riki and Melia. Seems kind of quick to be adding new characters considering how far apart the previous ones came... Anyway I love the area around Makna Falls, especially how Makna Falls isn't just there to look pretty in the background, it's something you can swim all the way up to. Not that there's any point in swimming to it, it's just cool that you can do it.

Originally Posted by Seanspeed: View Post
So you know English, dont know Japanese, yet you have it set to Japanese anyways.

Makes sense!
It was a democratic decision by the family members present in the room when I was starting it. Also I'm learning a lot by trying to match Japanese words to the English subtitles.

Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
The English VA is really good, and it kind of blows my mind when people talk about it being bad. I'd honestly recommend it over the Japanese, the English track has a lot more life to it than what I've heard of the Japanese track (Dickson and Dunban especially), and some of the post-battle banter between various parties is pretty good and worth hearing.
I never said the English VA was bad, I haven't even tried it yet. I'll probably try the English version once I do a NewGame+.

Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
Quickstep gems are your friend. But you might not have any yet.
I have a few, but they're low level and don't help much.
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Originally Posted by pgtl_10: View Post
I'm at the 3rd Egil fight where charges up. I destroy the things that charge but I still can't hurt him and then he uses a move that kills me. How do I hurt him?
Huh. Are you sure you destroyed all three of them? Are you going back to standing right in front of him? Are you sure you're targeting him instead of his cronies? These are the only reasons I can imagine for not being able to hurt him. Is your party equipped with the anti-mechon weapons, or using Shulk's Enchant?
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About that battle. Some builds of Dolphin glitch and don't trigger the quest completion after destroying the 3 things that charge which is required to make the boss targetable.
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Finally got around to beating the game after putting it off for awhile and doing tons of side quests.

Ending was thoroughly satisfying and fuck if I didn't tear up when it showed Fiora with her body back (even though I was expecting it with all the first person stuff).
pgtl_10
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(06-07-2012, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Awesomest: View Post
Huh. Are you sure you destroyed all three of them? Are you going back to standing right in front of him? Are you sure you're targeting him instead of his cronies? These are the only reasons I can imagine for not being able to hurt him. Is your party equipped with the anti-mechon weapons, or using Shulk's Enchant?
Shulk can't even hit him and that's when I use joint attacks.
pgtl_10
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Originally Posted by Starwolf_UK: View Post
About that battle. Some builds of Dolphin glitch and don't trigger the quest completion after destroying the 3 things that charge which is required to make the boss targetable.
Ouch I don't have Dolphin but I have used ocarina cheat manager. Does that have a glitch?
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The ice cabbage is my least favorite part about this game :(

edit: Found my second ice cabbage, went to colony 6 to reconstruct nature to level 3, and it won't let me select it. Is this some kind of sick joke? :(
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Originally Posted by pgtl_10: View Post
Ouch I don't have Dolphin but I have used ocarina cheat manager. Does that have a glitch?
I wouldn't think so, but it's possible.

Originally Posted by NubInaTub: View Post
The ice cabbage is my least favorite part about this game :(

edit: Found my second ice cabbage, went to colony 6 to reconstruct nature to level 3, and it won't let me select it. Is this some kind of sick joke? :(
Missing something else maybe? Or do you not have enough cash?
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(06-07-2012, 08:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by chaosblade: View Post
I wouldn't think so, but it's possible.


Missing something else maybe? Or do you not have enough cash?
Wow, I never actually noticed that part of it before. That's exactly what's wrong.

I've got Housing and Commerce up to LV 4 and Special up to LV 3 without needing more cash, so i've never ran into this before. Thanks for pointing it out, I thought I had a glitch or something lol.