Bulzeeb
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Capcom: "'On disc DLC no different than download" #1

well i just read this article at develop-online.net and I though this might be interesting to share

according to the site

"Customers have since filed several compaints with the Better Business Bureau, citing "false advertising", and "dissatisfaction".

Cinemablend reports that Capcom has responded to these complaints by claiming there is no difference between DLC and disc-locked content."

Source: Develop-online.net

I don't know for me there is a huge difference as they are marketed as downloadable and stuff so you expect them to be coded and added later into the games life cycle but well this is just Capcom being Capcom

well Lock if old, etc
Hero
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#2

Bullshit.
UnluckyKate
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Bullshit.
qq more
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Bullshit.
Jokab
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Bullshit.
Seraphinianus
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There really isn't. They're gonna put it out anyway, may as well plan it in advance and put it on this disc so i don't have to deal with Compatibility packs. The whole idea that DLC is done out of pure inspiration post release is crap.

C C C COMBO BREAKER and of course, it's me. Come at me Riposte :)
TheCongressman1
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Shitbull. Seriously though, no. It is different.
hearsaybear
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Look at what happened with Mortal Kombat. If it means online works with DLC characters, I'm fine with them being on the disc.

Online without working sound however...
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Bull droppings!
MMaRsu
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Friedreich
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Technically, you're only paying for the license to use what's on the disc and it's not necessarily for everything in it.

edit: ah geez i mean bulllshit
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onolaughing.gif
Dr.Palutena
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MonkeyShit. In all reality though I dont care one way or another but I find this a terribly weird stance to take after getting all this flack about it.
Last edited by Dr.Palutena; 04-02-2012 at 08:10 PM.
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#14

Irrelevant anyway. Do you want the content? Can you afford it? That's what matters. Voting with your wallet or whatever is a bullshit concept.
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Originally Posted by Friedreich: View Post
Technically, you're only paying for the license to use what's on the disc and it's not necessarily for everything in it.

edit: ah geez i mean bulllshit
Does that even fly in the EU?
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No.
ShockingAlberto
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On-disc DLC is an okay decision for a fighting game, otherwise you run in to shitty situations like MK.

But when you start claiming it's there because it's not finished or not there at all is when you lose the moral highground, if you ever had it.
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I disagree.

Oops...I mean, bullshit!
LakeEarth
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Bullshit. DLC was invented to add content to the game after its been released. This way you could get the game out earlier and make a little extra money on the side.

Now it's almost entirely used to charge extra for held-back content, regardless if it is ready or not.
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True, I feel just as raped whether content made during the normal dev cycle and finished before release is sold to me when it's already on the disc or sold to me as a download.
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Elephant dung!
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Donkey fecal matter!
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April Fools Day was yesterday Capcom!
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Bullshit.


Pure. Fucking. Bullshit.
Friedreich
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Originally Posted by Facism: View Post
Does that even fly in the EU?
I don't see why it wouldn't; selling the license for use has always been the case.
chiablo
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According to him, the food on my plate is no different than the shit in the toilet.

It's all going to end up in the sewer eventually.
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Originally Posted by Friedreich: View Post
Technically, you're only paying for the license to use what's on the disc and it's not necessarily for everything in it.

edit: ah geez i mean bulllshit
Technically, no, you're not. The law is very clear on this point, and it supercedes the EULA.
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#28

How?
TheCongressman1
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Originally Posted by RedNumberFive: View Post
April Fools Day was yesterday Capcom!
Oooh, nice one.
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after the bombcast put this into perspective for me (re: the MK DLC), i see way less of a difference than i used to.
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Bull fucking shit.

Originally Posted by Rabbitwork: View Post
after the bombcast put this into perspective for me (re: the MK DLC), i see way less of a difference than i used to.
MK handled it terribly. Blazblue had placeholder art for characters and was able to add them without forcing people to download anything. Capcom has 12 100% complete characters on the disc.
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Cattle excrement.
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#33

HAHAHA
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#34

I've read the argument here before that you don't own the content of the game but rather the licence to play it. Using that logic, criticising this practice of DLC on disc merely because it's on the disc doesn't hold up; it is no different than downloading it. The question is whether the consumer knows he/she is purchasing what was advertised and as the DLC on the disc was not advertised as being on the disc, then what's the problem here..
Seraphinianus
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Originally Posted by Cheesecakebobby: View Post
True, I feel just as raped whether content made during the normal dev cycle and finished before release is sold to me when it's already on the disc or sold to me as a download.


really? having the option to spend a few bucks = raped?
Baby Yoshi
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#36

Bullshit.
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#37

Laughable.
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slapyouinthemouth.gif

whatever, capcpom
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Originally Posted by chiablo: View Post
According to him, the food on my plate is no different than the shit in the toilet.

It's all going to end up in the sewer eventually.
Actually these days Capcom just expect us to eat shit.
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That entirely depends if the DLC is just part of the original game and the Developers/Publishers just snipped it off to sell to suckers, then it is identical to on disc DLC. You buy a game, you should not have to pay to unlock things already present on the disc.

If Developers are actually making additional content for the game, then that DLC is fine. Borderlands for example.
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They are both technically DLC.
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#42

Capcom might as well have said, paying $50 for the game is no different than paying $80 for the game and then paying another $40 when we release version 2 of the game in 6 months time, not as an expansion but a new release.
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Originally Posted by Seraphinianus: View Post
really? having the option to spend a few bucks = raped?
Well, at least rape is free.



*Disclaimer: rape is bad and wrong.
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Why is it different? I'm willing to be persuaded if someone can articulate why its different when literally the only physical difference is that in a download situation the information is transmitted remotely. To be clear: in both cases you pay the same amount, in both cases you gain access to the same content, the actual remote transmission is the only distinguishing factor.
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Bull poop?
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as long as it's a solution that doesn't create stupid situations with online i don't care much..

The third dlc pack for SSF4 was pointless because of this.
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Get used to this, people.

The effective price of game development is just going to continue raising and they can't raise MSRP. So cutting content and selling it separately (SFxT fighters, Javik DLC) is going to be the new norm.

The only way it will stop is if people stop paying for it, which they won't.
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At least with on disc DLC, you don't have to pay for the pre-planned DLC.
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i will remember this when i never buy a capcom game (at full price) again.
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Crapcom, you suck monkey balls.