[Franklinator]

It doesn't matter. They are making the game regardless. Payton said they had "like 20 business offers" from "trustworthy people." http://www.elecplay.com/all/type-of/...ublique-video/

Oh, awesome! I haven't been following the project as well as I should of been so I didn't know this. Thanks for the heads-up!

[Goldmund]

Oh, awesome! I haven't been following the project as well as I should of been so I didn't know this. Thanks for the heads-up!

I can't see how keeping their Kickstarter running despite these offers makes the whole ordeal seem double-dealing at all.

[Ignis Fatuus]

The fourth time something hits the news is always the wowest time.

Whoops, didn't notice the new thread. Been busy.

I can't see how keeping their Kickstarter running despite these offers makes the whole ordeal seem double-dealing at all.

Did anyone say it was? At the very least they got some funding offers out of the Kickstarter. I just hope they're venture capitalists and not a traditional publisher.

[Mobius1]

Did anyone say it was?

Sarcasm, I think?

[~Kinggi~]

Well, they have gotten like 15k in the last 1-2 hours.....

[sixghost]

Well, they have gotten like 15k in the last 1-2 hours.....

Just refreshed from about an hour ago, it went up from 169k to 191k.

[AgentCooper]

Wait, Billy Berghammer is at Camouflaj? #KEEPBILLYEMPLOYED

I LOVE YOU.

[Tashi]

Wow Snake has some serious pull! That's awesome.

[Zeer0id]

200k crossed!

[Father_Brain]

They're actually on track to surpass Day 1. Wow.

I didn't think voice actors could have more of an impact than announcing PC/Mac ports, but that just goes to show what I know.

[Zeer0id]

I didn't think voice actors could have more of an impact than announcing PC/Mac ports, but that just goes to show what I know.

... indeed :/

[Raging Spaniard]

Kind of hard to believe this was the "thing" they needed but hey, whatever works!

[Relaxed Muscle]

Behold the power of ME and MGS fans!!

[AwShucks]

I posted before that I would have been really excited if it wasn't for iOS. I now see it's for PC (and Mac) as well and therefore this will be the first Kickstarter I support.

[polyh3dron]

I posted before that I would have been really excited if it wasn't for iOS. I now see it's for PC (and Mac) as well and therefore this will be the first Kickstarter I support.

just get an ipod touch and join the winning team already

[ArjanN]

, I r

lol, I refreshed and it jumped up 10K

Very soon, Ryan Payton 500.000 : Haters 0

[MrCunningham]

Very soon: Hayter 500.000 : Haters 0

Fixed ;)

There's still a ways to go, but it will be a tight race to the end.

[Zeer0id]

, I r lol, I refreshed and it jumped up 10K Very soon, Ryan Payton 500.000 : Haters 0

LOL this is pretty unbelievable. Well done, Ryan. Hope this momentum holds as long as you need it to.

[Haunted]

, I r lol, I refreshed and it jumped up 10K

Surprising. There's not as many backers (279 compared to over 700 from the opening and PC announcement), but it looks like these few backers went for the high reward tiers.

[soultron]

Hayter and Hale. Big ups. Hopefully Hayter isn't instructed to do a Snake phone-in.

[ArjanN]

Surprising. There's not as many backers (279 compared to over 700 from the opening and PC announcement), but it looks like these few backers went for the high reward tiers.

Yeah, and that kicktraq image is 11K behind as well. There were probably a bunch of people upgrading to a higher tier also.

[Zeer0id]

Hayter and Hale. Big ups. Hopefully Hayter isn't instructed to do a Snake phone-in.

You can almost definitely count on there being at least one reference plugged in there somewhere

[ArjanN]

Ah, the kicktraq image just updated. Over 50k today.

With 7 days 22 hours remaining.

[Rez]

Surprising. There's not as many backers (279 compared to over 700 from the opening and PC announcement), but it looks like these few backers went for the high reward tiers.

heh, this is where it becomes... well... it might be within certain party's best interest to start funelling money into the project to get it over the line. Watching the number of 'high-tier backers' go up over the next week could be interesting.

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

heh, this is where it becomes... well... it might be within certain party's best interest to start funelling money into the project to get it over the line. Watching the number of 'high-tier backers' go up over the next week could be interesting.

The solution would be for those... parties to place many big pledges now, then at the end remove the ones that aren't needed.

[ArjanN]

heh, this is where it becomes... well... it might be within certain party's best interest to start funelling money into the project to get it over the line. Watching the number of 'high-tier backers' go up over the next week could be interesting.

C'mon son.



Someone took the 5k tier. That probably upped the average pledge by a lot. And a big spike after this announcement is not surprising in the least.

[Adr1an]

Fingers crossed, looks like it may have a chance now.

[kyubajin]

Hayter is the man.

[pakkit]

I'm putting in my 60 dollars now. I was going to support this project from the beginning but knowing I could take my time...I took my time.

[sixghost]

heh, this is where it becomes... well... it might be within certain party's best interest to start funelling money into the project to get it over the line. Watching the number of 'high-tier backers' go up over the next week could be interesting.

You realize if they did what you are implying, they would basically be forcing their company to pay income tax on money they essentially gave to themselves, right? Not to mention the 9% Kickstarter takes.

[Rez]

You realize if they did what you are implying, they would basically be forcing their company to pay income tax on money they essentially gave to themselves, right? Not to mention the 9% Kickstarter takes.

If you think Jennifer Hale and David Hayter were big enough draws to bring in more money than a PC/Mac announcement, more the power to you, friend.

[numble]

You realize if they did what you are implying, they would basically be forcing their company to pay income tax on money they essentially gave to themselves, right? Not to mention the 9% Kickstarter takes.

No income tax because it would be a business expense that is tax-deductible. Both when they spend the initial amount and after they get 91% back and spend it on business expenses.

The Kickstarter taxes are not that big. Say there is $200k in the pot ($182k after Kickstarter and Amazon's cut). If you want it, you need to cough up $300k, but you'll get 91% back. So it's paying $27,000 for $182,000. Would you pay someone $27k to get $182k back?

[ArjanN]

You realize if they did what you are implying, they would basically be forcing their company to pay income tax on money they essentially gave to themselves, right? Not to mention the 9% Kickstarter takes.

It's just the same dumb baseless accusation you see in every kickstarter thread.

It's actually a terrible idea to do that for a number of reasons. For one, if you get caught you get nothing, and ruin your reputation forever. Whereas if the kickstarter fails normally, Ryan could just start over way a goal of 400k and with the PC/Mac version + Hayter/Hale announced from the start would make that easily.

There is literally no reason for them to cheat.

[Zen]

If you think Jennifer Hale and David Hayter were big enough draws to bring in more money than a PC/Mac announcement, more the power to you, friend.

It's def a combination of these 2 things. The Hayter Hale announcement wouldn't have had the impact were it not for the additional platforms. Don't underestimate the fans surrounding these 2 voice actors.

I would donate if I wasn't broke. I'd rather see them able to keep their IP and work how they want to.

[jetjevons]

I'm in. Pledge made. Good luck RP!

[Rez]

It's just the same dumb baseless accusation you see in every kickstarter thread.

look, I'm not saying THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, but a gigantic spike (it looks about 100% larger than the PC/Mac spike) with fewer total new backers than other smaller spikes definitely smells bad. Baseless? No.

[Palette Swap]

I've finally gotten on board.
Not really for Hale/Hayter but because the Hayter news made me click a thread and look more into the game, which in turn got me interested enough to get onboard.

[ArjanN]

look, I'm not saying THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, but a gigantic spike (it looks about 100% larger than the PC/Mac spike) with fewer total new backers than other smaller spikes definitely smells bad. Baseless? No.

No you weren't saying it, you were just passive-aggressively implying it.

Do you have any proof? No. So it's baseless.

Like I said someone took one of the $5000 pledges that gets their face in the game and integrated in the fiction, so that raised the average pledge level for today substantially.

[Rez]

No you weren't saying it, you were just passive-aggressively implying it. Do you have any proof? No. So it's baseless. Like I said someone took one of the $5000 pledges that gets their face in the game and integrated in the fiction, so that raised the average pledge level for today substantially.

Only one 5000 dollar pledge, when the previous spike was 22,000 and this one is 52,000? The day before was about 6000.

So yeah, excuse me if I don't throw out the possibility that many are probably thinking.

[Haunted]

hey now let's all calm down here

Money is money. As long as it's not the company itself backing, it's all within the rules.

[Ignis Fatuus]

look, I'm not saying THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, but a gigantic spike (it looks about 100% larger than the PC/Mac spike) with fewer total new backers than other smaller spikes definitely smells bad. Baseless? No.

You do realize the maximum you can pledge with one account is $10k, right?

[ArjanN]

Only one 5000 dollar pledge, when the previous spike was 22,000 and this one is 52,000? The day before was about 6000. So yeah, excuse me if I don't throw out the possibility that many are probably thinking.

Please read more carefully.
The $5000 pledge explains the rise of the AVERAGE pledge today.

The Hayter/hale announcement means you get the attention of both MGS and Mass Effect fans. So that explains the rest of the spike quite easily IMO.

And pledging to yourself doesn't even make sense for the reasons I already gave in my previous post.

[EternalGamer]

Please read more carefully. The $5000 pledge explains the rise of the AVERAGE pledge today. The Hayter/hale announcement means you get the attention of both MGS and Mass Effect fans. So that explains the rest of the spike quite easily IMO. And pledging to yourself doesn't even make sense for the reasons I already gave in my previous post.

It's an interesting theory. There certainly would be nothing stopping them from kicking in the rest so they don't lose it all.

However, that's a pretty steep price they pay Kickstarter to access their own money via that loop.

[Ignis Fatuus]

There certainly would be nothing stopping them from kicking in the rest so they don't lose it all.

Nothing but Kickstarter, Amazon, and credit card policies. This is covered in every thread.

[ArjanN]

It's an interesting theory. There certainly would be nothing stopping them from kicking in the rest so they don't lose it all. However, that's a pretty steep price they pay Kickstarter to access their own money via that loop.

Except the fact it's against the rules and if you'd get caught you'd lose all the money and your reputation.

It would make much more sense to just run the same kickstarter again with 300K or 400K as the goal than to secretly try to donate 100k or 200k to this one yourself.

[NervousXtian]

So wait, Payton pretty much says this game is getting made Kickstarter or not, and people still want to support this KS for some odd reason?

It feels so shady...

Putting money in this pot doesn't ensure the game gets made, putting money in doesn't ensure you're getting a better game.. so what's the point?

[aeolist]

So wait, Payton pretty much says this game is getting made Kickstarter or not, and people still want to support this KS for some odd reason? It feels so shady... Putting money in this pot doesn't ensure the game gets made, putting money in doesn't ensure you're getting a better game.. so what's the point?

Maybe people think the reward tiers are worthwhile?

[Akia]

So wait, Payton pretty much says this game is getting made Kickstarter or not, and people still want to support this KS for some odd reason? It feels so shady... Putting money in this pot doesn't ensure the game gets made, putting money in doesn't ensure you're getting a better game.. so what's the point?

The cheapest tier on Kickstarter for a copy will be cheaper than the Day 1 price. People pledging for higher level tiers are doing so for the rewards.

[Haunted]

Putting money in this pot doesn't ensure the game gets made, putting money in doesn't ensure you're getting a better game.. so what's the point?

The reward tiers, I'd assume.

[onlyindreams]

So wait, Payton pretty much says this game is getting made Kickstarter or not, and people still want to support this KS for some odd reason? It feels so shady... Putting money in this pot doesn't ensure the game gets made, putting money in doesn't ensure you're getting a better game.. so what's the point?

The Kickstarter succeeding means they get to keep creative control. That's a plus for everyone.