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Globox_82
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(04-06-2012, 03:19 PM)
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According to the latest issue of Xbox World magazine, devkits for Microsoft’s next generation console are already in the wild, and were shipped to developers in March. The first devkits reached a select number of developers after Microsoft’s hush-hush developer’s conference in London on February 28, 2012. The purpose of the conference was to brief European representatives on the new hardware, which is codenamed Durango – the meeting was subsequently confirmed by a senior technical artist at Crytek, who tweeted that he was “enjoying the Durango developers summit in London. So far, great swag and interesting talks.” Further meetings were held for American developers at the Game Developers’ Conference in San Francisco, with Durango devkits shipping “shortly afterwards.”

The publication states that current devkits will not mirror the final hardware in appearance, however, initial specifications are representative of the console set to ship in late 2013. Sources close to Xbox World magazine have revealed that Durango’s devkit features a “monster” 16-core IBM PowerPC CPU, a GPU comparable to AMD’s Radeon HD 7000-series graphics cards, and a Blu-Ray optical drive.

“Even if you had a 16-core processor in your gaming PC there are currently no games built to use it, but games for the next Xbox could put all sixteen cores to work on day one for a level of performance far in excess of current gaming PCs. It’s a ridiculous amount of power for a games machine – too much power, even. But remember, Kinect 2 could chew up four whole cores tracking multiple players right down to their fingertips, so it’ll need a lot of power.”

Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox, and that various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June, regardless of whether “Microsoft and Sony are ready or not.”

“Regardless of whether the next Xbox makes it to E3, the arrival of those Durango devkits is the starting gun for the next generation and once again Microsoft have beaten Sony out of the gate by getting hardware into the developers’ hands first. Sony keep denying any possibility of PS4 at E3 2012 too, but if they don’t move fast Microsoft could roll into June’s LA showcase with dozens of next-generation exclusives from third-parties. When Epic shows that first Unreal 4 demo they’ll only have one console platform to talk about – call it Durango, call it 720, call it what you like, but if Microsoft move fast it might be the only game in town.”

http://sillegamer.com/2012/04/06/xbo...ore-processor/

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Bagu
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(04-06-2012, 03:20 PM)
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Stop giving these rumors attention.
Azure J
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(04-06-2012, 03:21 PM)
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16 goddamned cores? We runnin' servers now? :lol
darkwing
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(04-06-2012, 03:21 PM)
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wow 16 cores? this will be faster than PCs!
Globox_82
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(04-06-2012, 03:21 PM)
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How legit is Xbox World magazine?
WrikaWrek
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(04-06-2012, 03:21 PM)
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16?

Smells like bullshit.

Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox, and that various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June, regardless of whether “Microsoft and Sony are ready or not.”

My guess is nobody actually knows anything. Every rumor seems to contradict another.
DonMigs85
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(04-06-2012, 03:22 PM)
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So back to PowerPC again eh
I give up, this is a circus and I don't know who to believe at this point.
Metalmurphy
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(04-06-2012, 03:22 PM)
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Haha. This is getting out of hand.
Door2Dawn
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This thing is going to be pretty expensive isn't it. D:
DieH@rd
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(04-06-2012, 03:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by AzureJericho

16 goddamned cores? We runnin' servers now? :lol

More likely 16 threads [4 cores with 4 threads each]. Power7 supports that without a problem.
darkwing
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(04-06-2012, 03:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Door2Dawn

This thing is going to be pretty expensive isn't it. D:

this is just the devkit, it will be expensive
Gareth Bale
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(04-06-2012, 03:22 PM)
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16 cores and yet enemy AI will still be terrible.
sixteen-bit
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(04-06-2012, 03:23 PM)
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It's like that episode of CSI
Erethian
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(04-06-2012, 03:23 PM)
I'm sure that devs have final devkits for a system that isn't coming out until late next year.

Yep, totally sure.
bobbytkc
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(04-06-2012, 03:23 PM)
16 cores? I mean, at least TRY to be a little realistic here.
Chris_C
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(04-06-2012, 03:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Globox_82

How legit is Xbox World magazine?

Too legitto quit.
Azure J
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(04-06-2012, 03:24 PM)
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Certainly they mean four Power7 like cores with four threads for a 16 thread CPU right? (I know it's a rumor, but) I can't imagine how needlessly expensive something like this would be if we have to take it at face value.

Edit: DieH@rd got to it before I could. :P
bigtroyjon
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(04-06-2012, 03:24 PM)

various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June, regardless of whether “Microsoft and Sony are ready or not.”

Uh huh, they want to unveil software that won't hit the market for over a year, maybe 2 years if they don't hit the launch window?
Loxley
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(04-06-2012, 03:24 PM)
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You know what? Fuck it. 16 cores? Sure. Why not. At this point they could tell me it makes toast and opens my garage door.
GrizzNKev
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(04-06-2012, 03:25 PM)
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a level of performance far in excess of current gaming PCs

lol
Hydrogen Bluebird
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(04-06-2012, 03:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gareth Bale

16 cores and yet enemy AI will still be terrible.

Ok. I lol'd
Lactose_Intolerant
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(04-06-2012, 03:26 PM)
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The publication states that current devkits will not mirror the final hardware in appearance

This is all you need to read to know these people don't know what they are talking about. Why even put this in the article.
Azure J
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(04-06-2012, 03:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loxley

You know what? Fuck it. 16 cores? Sure. Why not. At this point they could tell me it makes toast and opens my garage door.

It might actually do both!

By burning your house down, but hey! :P
AngryMoth
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(04-06-2012, 03:26 PM)
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And supposedly their not even announcing it e3 so we have a whole 'nother year of this ahead
Phonomezer
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(04-06-2012, 03:27 PM)
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How do people expect the PS4 to be more powerful if they haven't seen it?

How do people expect us to believe that it will have a 16-core CPU?
VariantX
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(04-06-2012, 03:27 PM)
We really need a rumor/speculation thread for the xbox3/ps4 to catch all these rumors and hold them in one place. That being said, that sounds expensive...
IvanI
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(04-06-2012, 03:27 PM)
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They can put gazillion cores in it, but unless the majority of the devs actually learn how to use them, they're just a number on the paper.
We have that in the current gen with the Cell in the PS3.
Sure, Naughty Dog & co. (most of Sony's 1st party studios) have "harnessed" the power of the Cell, but most of the devs haven't (and now we're hearing rumors that PS4 will be something in the line of x86 architecture).

My point is: if this rumor is true, great. I applaud MS for having the guts to put a parallel beast in the NextBox, but without proper documentation, education and wit & knowledge of the actual devs, it's just a number on paper with no real-world application.

I'm cautiously optimistic.
JaseC
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(04-06-2012, 03:27 PM)
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The only detail of any of these increasingly frequent Nextbox rumours that will wind up being on the mark is the Blu-ray drive.
knitoe
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(04-06-2012, 03:27 PM)
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Let it be true. Previous talks about "weak" consoles had me worried. Day 1 for 16 cores and dual GPUs.
jett
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(04-06-2012, 03:28 PM)
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16 cores? Undoubtedly complete bullshit.
NIGHT-
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(04-06-2012, 03:28 PM)
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smh.. these fucking rumors are getting old
subversus
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(04-06-2012, 03:28 PM)
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16 cores?

ok

but even if by some miracle it's true I think it's a smart move for MS to move all high-profile development to their platform. I mean it would differentiate the market better: want graphics - buy a console, want innovative/multiplayer stuff - buy a PC.

The next few years will be interesting.
opticalmace
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(04-06-2012, 03:28 PM)
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LOL.
GarthVaderUK
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(04-06-2012, 03:28 PM)
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So many different Nextbox rumours, it's getting silly now.
KageMaru
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
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So is this the other rumor that was supposed to be leaked this week? I thought Nirolak (or someone) mentioned it in the last xbox rumor thread.
CosmicGroinPull
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
Yeah but how much ram?
Blunt
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
Right, stop that!



These rumours are getting far too silly!
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SparkTR
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
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Will it do 4D and 120fps?

Jesus. Looking through this thread, it's like the past 6 years never happened.
Last edited by SparkTR; 04-06-2012 at 03:32 PM.
RoboPlato
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Globox_82

How legit is Xbox World magazine?

I find it hilarious that a magazine called Xbox World said that the PS4 will be more powerful. All of these rumors are so completely contradictory to one another that we just have to wait. It's fun to speculate and look at them, but you really can't take any of them seriously.
Phonomezer
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(04-06-2012, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by GarthVaderUK

So many different Nextbox rumours, it's getting silly now.

They failed to mention the holographic projector.
Erethian
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(04-06-2012, 03:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Gareth Bale

16 cores and yet enemy AI will still be terrible.

Hardware hasn't been an obstacle for AI for years, though.
Kazuma Kiryu
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(04-06-2012, 03:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by knitoe

Let it be true. Previous talks about "weak" consoles had me worried. Day 1 for 16 cores and dual GPUs.

i don't know why you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Always-honest
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(04-06-2012, 03:30 PM)
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All wasted on kinect
Sethos
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(04-06-2012, 03:30 PM)
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Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
Corto
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(04-06-2012, 03:30 PM)
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"Some might say that it's just like two duct tapped PCs"
Chinner
(04-06-2012, 03:31 PM)
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i remember this one user posted a piss-take of the shitty journalism over these fake rumours and he got mocked and banned because it seemingly went over everyone's heads. but this is about xbox and not nintendo so op is probably okay.
PeakPointMatrix
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(04-06-2012, 03:31 PM)
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16 cores


Shit just got real.

Please Sony, keep up.
Last edited by PeakPointMatrix; 04-06-2012 at 03:34 PM.
Theonik
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(04-06-2012, 03:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by DieH@rd

More likely 16 threads [4 cores with 4 threads each]. Power7 supports that without a problem.

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That actually makes sense. I could easily imagine a dumb person misinterpreting that along the way. Not that I believe these rumours for one second lol
shira
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(04-06-2012, 03:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Globox_82

but games for the next Xbox could put all sixteen cores to work on day one

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JaseC
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(04-06-2012, 03:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by CosmicGroinPull

Yeah but how much ram?

16GB^16.

Originally Posted by shira

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It wouldn't be hard to have all the cores working in tandem. Efficiency, however, is another matter. :p

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