[aparisi2274]

This show is boring as shit!

I don't think I will be watching the 2nd episode.

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Episode kind of picked up in the second half, with the pregnancy scene and the parents' bedroom bit. First half was on the far less entertaining side. Show kind of flows between "these people are annoying [but supposed to be funny]" and "funny situation" comedy, the latter half works much better for everybody. Certainly don't know where the lauding praise comes from, the show doesn't even have enough restraint to not hat tip sex and the city and clueless directly in the first episode. It's an okay start though. Could get better. I'll see where it goes next week, I guess.

[-COOLIO-]

ill believe the first person to reply to me. is this show any good?

[ivysaur12]

HBO's 'Girls' starts modest, 'Thrones' ratings steady

At first I was surprised, then I wasn't. It'll be a while before we really understand where the show's numbers will go. And that's okay.

I expect a second season announcement by episode 3 or 4.

[white dynamite]

ill believe the first person to reply to me. is this show any good?

yes, and the first episode is on youtube. if you've got 30 minutes to kill you might as well check it out.

[anaron]

Lmao

[Clayton Bigsby]

I liked the pilot. But I wish How To Make It In America did better, I really liked that show. Though not exactly similar, it makes me miss that show a lot.

[big ander]

I...I wish I had a more decisive opinion on this show. What with the heavy critical praise on one side and the gigantically negative reactions on the other. Right now I barely care about it.

The show is definitely very real, which is admirable. Even the small characters were realized well. Probably more than any other show I've seen recently, Girls has characters that I could see existing.

I'm just not sure if that's a good thing. So far the only character I enjoy is Marnie. The rest I understand, but nothing about their situations has made me care about them yet. Or the show has (intentionally) made me kind of despise them. Hannah is already very whiny and lame. All of that could turn around; we should learn more about each character and everything soon. But there were no hooks in that opener.

My last problem is simultaneously simple and profound: the show is not at all funny. I didn't crack a smile watching it. The conversations they had were realistic and, if I was in them, I would laugh. But a conversation that would make you laugh in real life doesn't necessarily translate to television.

Again, the worst part about all this is probably that I don't care about this show either way. It feels skillfully produced but so, so aimless. I'll watch more. Maybe I'll start having an actual opinion.

[Rodelina]

I thought the pilot was entertaining. But I also liked Tiny Furniture. If you hated that movie you will not like Girls.

[Polari]

Watched the first episode, wasn't really impressed. Not half as clever as it seems to think it is.

[-COOLIO-]

I liked the pilot. But I wish How To Make It In America did better, I really liked that show. Though not exactly similar, it makes me miss that show a lot.

ya me too, but at least it ended on a high note.


just watched the pilot. it felt like watching really mundane reality tv. ill give the 2nd ep a shot though

[dead souls]

Lmao

Yeah, it was a passable pilot, but that poster is funnier than anything the show has done yet.

[RatskyWatsky]

Thought it was a solid pilot. I wasn't as enamored with it as I thought I would be though. I haven't seen Tiny Furniture, so I didn't quite know what to expect on the comedy side of things. (and I only watched the trailer once, way back when it was first released, so I barely remembered what was in it) Turns out it's the sort of quasi-hipster, almost pretentious flavor of comedy that I can't say I'm a huge fan of. (It reminded me of the Scott Pilgrim movie in many ways, which I'm also not a huge fan of) There were some laughs here and there, but for the most part I thought it was only mildly amusing. It's awkward and amusing, but not necessarily "funny", if that makes sense.

Aside from that...well, I think the 4 main characters are all three dimensional and relatively interesting, (which is pretty impressive given that we've only seen the pilot) and the acting is solid across the board.

Like with some of the other people here, it didn't really make a very strong impression on me one way or another, but I'll certainly stick with it.

[golem]

It wasn't really funny or interesting. Not really understanding the positive reception its getting by critics, maybe I'll stick around for 1 more episode. Or maybe not.

[SirButterstick]

I'm 15 minutes in, and I absolutely hate the main character. I went from expecting to totally sympathize with her, being so similar in so many ways, to hating her ungrateful, spoiled, entitled ass.

Again, it's "WILLIAMSBURG! The Show!"

[Staccat0]

Would someone who hated Tiny Furniture like this?

[Jonm1010]

I enjoyed the pilot. Like all HBO shows, I'll give it at least 5 episodes before final judgement.

[Clevinger]

I didn't really like it. The main character was too unlikeable for me. That wouldn't matter if she (or the rest of the show) was interesting or entertaining enough to me to outweigh that, but she isn't.

I don't think it's a bad show though. It just isn't for me.

[big ander]

Turns out it's the sort of quasi-hipster, almost pretentious flavor of comedy that I can't say I'm a huge fan of. (It reminded me of the Scott Pilgrim movie in many ways, which I'm also not a huge fan of)

The rest of your post make a lot of sense, but...Girls has absolutely zero in common with Scott Pilgrim. On an objective stylistic level they're polar opposites. SP was characterized by miraculously short takes, divided screens, incessant graphics, nonstop editing, speedy and neverending camera movement, heavy sound cues, exaggerated color...on the surface they're different in just about every single way. The acting in SP is much more melodramatic, too (intentionally).

Beyond actual physical style the two remain vastly different. Pilgrim is all about wacky insane out-there punchlines and punches. Its humor is all about speed and reference and oddness. Its action is about fighting and playing music. Girls is about real conversations and centers around completely realistic things.

Scott Pilgrim looks to explore modern relationships and their authenticity. It exaggerates every aspect of the modern 20-something in order to prove a point about the way we interact nowadays. But at the same time, Scott Pilgrim loves this exaggeration. It believes that kids today are different, but fine. In its pilot, Girls is about filling people with sensible contradictions and studying them. It's much more critical and almost self-loathing.

I dunno, there's a lot more. But basically, this is one of the strangest comparisons I've seen. The one thing they have in common is that they are about present age-20ish people. Other than that I think they're on opposite ends of every imaginable spectrum.

[brianjones]

Would someone who hated Tiny Furniture like this?

i hated tiny furnitire.. thought this was watchable

its only 25 mins or so

There were some laughs here and there, but for the most part I thought it was only mildly amusing. It's awkward and amusing, but not necessarily "funny", if that makes sense.

the kind of humor you might smirk at but not really laugh out loud, yeah

[Staccat0]

i hated tiny furnitire.. thought this was watchable its only 25 mins or so

Thank you

[DjangoReinhardt]

The problem I have with the show is that I don't care what happens to any of the characters.

Vacant, spoiled dilettantes aren't that interesting.

[shadyspace]

Good first outing. Refreshing to have a show on the air about you and your peers that's not pandering bullshit.

[jediyoshi]

Turns out it's the sort of quasi-hipster, almost pretentious flavor of comedy that I can't say I'm a huge fan of.

Is quasi-hipster the new term for hipster? I didn't think it was possible for a word to mean something less than something already meaningless.

[Macmanus]

The show is sincere and I laughed. I really enjoyed Hannah's mother's delivery (and feel I should probably know that actress's name.)

I was prepped that not a single affable character was to be found so I was prepared to be annoyed at how little I cared about anyone. However the jokes landed for me, and in a fourth wall sort of context the juxtaposition of the Game Of Throne sex scenes with the one found in Girls is rather hilarious. (At least in theory. I don't think S2E3 actually had a sex scene.)

A lot of the humor I see in it is empathizing with the naivete of the main character when I was that age.

[junesongprovider]

I wasn't crazy about Tiny Furniture, but it kind of won me over by the end. Similarly, I wasn't really feeling the pilot at first but I found myself enjoying it in the second half. She really didn't endear herself to me in the opening scene whining about how she should be financially supported. I guess I can't really blame her, because she was just being honest, and that's what makes her stuff good most of the time, but that annoyed me. I will stick with it unless I really start to hate it.

That nepotism poster is informative. I had no idea about Brian Williams' daughter. I kind of figured the Mamet girl might be related. She looks pretty Mamet-y. The british girl being the daughter if a drummer doesnt really hold water. She was in Tiny Furniture. Really strikes me more as Lena Dunham's friend more than someone who got muscled in because of who her dad knows. And I know it was basically just needed to cement the theme, but I take offense to reducing Apatow to "Sandler's old roommate". He has moved beyond any suggestion of riding the coattails of friends, especially fucking Sandler. If anything, people are now riding his.

[junesongprovider]

Good first outing. Refreshing to have a show on the air about you and your peers that's not pandering bullshit.

Good point. If nothing else, it is the opposite of pandering.

[Macmanus]

Really strikes me more as Lena Dunham's friend

Still technically nepotism. Though I see your point and completely agree with it.

[Clevinger]

That nepotism poster is informative. I had no idea about Brian Williams' daughter. I kind of figured the Mamet girl might be related. She looks pretty Mamet-y. The british girl being the daughter if a drummer doesnt really hold water. She was in Tiny Furniture. Really strikes me more as Lena Dunham's friend more than someone who got muscled in because of who her dad knows. And I know it was basically just needed to cement the theme, but I take offense to reducing Apatow to "Sandler's old roommate". He has moved beyond any suggestion of riding the coattails of friends, especially fucking Sandler. If anything, people are now riding his.

The poster is just a joke. That said, I doubt either Mamet's or Williams' daughter would be in this (or have any level of success) without their dads' fame and doors into the industry.

[ivysaur12]

The poster is just a joke. That said, I doubt either Mamet's or Williams' daughter would be in this (or have any level of success) without their dads' fame and doors into the industry.

You've described more than half of Hollywood.

[Devolution]

Is it just me or does Marnie look like Lone Skye circa Say Anything?

[shadyspace]

btw I have literally said that "I could be a drug addict" line to my parents before, pretty much word for word.

[ivysaur12]

btw I have literally said that "I could be a drug addict" line to my parents before, pretty much word for word.

I think I used that one when I came out to my dad.

[RatskyWatsky]

The rest of your post make a lot of sense, but...Girls has absolutely zero in common with Scott Pilgrim. On an objective stylistic level they're polar opposites. SP was characterized by miraculously short takes, divided screens, incessant graphics, nonstop editing, speedy and neverending camera movement, heavy sound cues, exaggerated color...on the surface they're different in just about every single way. The acting in SP is much more melodramatic, too (intentionally). Beyond actual physical style the two remain vastly different. Pilgrim is all about wacky insane out-there punchlines and punches. Its humor is all about speed and reference and oddness. Its action is about fighting and playing music. Girls is about real conversations and centers around completely realistic things. Scott Pilgrim looks to explore modern relationships and their authenticity. It exaggerates every aspect of the modern 20-something in order to prove a point about the way we interact nowadays. But at the same time, Scott Pilgrim loves this exaggeration. It believes that kids today are different, but fine. In its pilot, Girls is about filling people with sensible contradictions and studying them. It's much more critical and almost self-loathing. I dunno, there's a lot more. But basically, this is one of the strangest comparisons I've seen. The one thing they have in common is that they are about present age-20ish people. Other than that I think they're on opposite ends of every imaginable spectrum.

I said that it reminded me of Scott Pilgrim, not that it was Scott Pilgrim. I realize that they're two very different things, but the pretentiously self aware, "smart" dialog just struck a bridge between the two in my mind. That's all. :3

the kind of humor you might smirk at but not really laugh out loud, yeah

Yeah.

Is quasi-hipster the new term for hipster? I didn't think it was possible for a word to mean something less than something already meaningless.

I just meant that while it wasn't overtly hipster, it was very hipster-ish. Hipster esque, if you will. Hip, with a dash of ster and quasiogodineedtogotosleep.

[Clevinger]

Is it just me or does Marnie look like Lone Skye circa Say Anything?

Ione, with an I. And yeah, a little bit.

[SolKane]

I enjoyed the pilot for what it was, and though there were a few moments that I found a bit contrived I'll keep watching. There's a sort of honesty present in some of the scenes, and I do find the main actress very endearing (I didn't find either of the other actress too appealing). And I'm a sucker for shows set in New York, because I always fantasize about living there.

[CF_Fighter]

Holy shit, this show was like watching a girl I dated on screen. 24 years old, english major, interning at a local publication, working on a book, and feeling like she is meant for much more. Luckily she has a job. I enjoyed the writing and such, but it might hit a little too close to home to keep watching.

[Staccat0]

btw I have literally said that "I could be a drug addict" line to my parents before, pretty much word for word.

I used it several times. "I don't drink. I don't smoke. I get okay grades. The punishment should fit the crime. I'm a good kid, and I'd get away with a lot more if I just said, 'fuck it!'"

I also have had the theoretical discussion of the heiarchy of social messages and have given a contrary reality check similar to the McDonald's one.

[Kayhan]

The mom was hilarious.

"No more m o n e y!"

[Devolution]

The mom was hilarious. "No more m o n e y!"

I love the hotel room scene too.

You're spoiled.
Well whose fault is that mom.
Your fathers.

[Rookje]

I thought it was kinda depressing.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Again, it's "WILLIAMSBURG! The Show!"

Do they even live in Williamsburg?

[BenjaminBirdie]

The poster is just a joke. That said, I doubt either Mamet's or Williams' daughter would be in this (or have any level of success) without their dads' fame and doors into the industry.

Also the idea that Lena Dunham got anywhere because her mom is a fine artist is like Fusebox Episode Of Sealab 2012 level hilarious.

[LCfiner]

I really liked the pilot. I enjoy more laid back humor sometimes. Not every comedy needs to be in your face about it with every scene. I thought the episode was pretty sharp.

[Persona7]

I just watched the first episode and thought it was terrible.


I guess I should trust my gut feelings when watching previews.

[TheClimaxan]

Dug the pilot. Pretty accurate portrayal of a huge subset of 20 somethings.

It also helps that one of my best friends works on the show on the production side. He told me to prepare for a lot more awkward/gross sex, and he also told me that Lena Dunham (writer/creator) is very down to earth, humble and cool as shit. For that alone I hope the show succeeds.

[junesongprovider]

The poster is just a joke. That said, I doubt either Mamet's or Williams' daughter would be in this (or have any level of success) without their dads' fame and doors into the industry.

Obviously it's just a joke, not a scathing indictment of this show or Hollywood.

And, yeah, Mamet and Williams definitely got doors opened for them.

But I don't like the "its a joke dude relax" defense. I know it's a joke, and at the end of the day I am probably not arguing against the person who made the joke, but that doesn't mean I can't discuss the joke's premise and assertions.

[junesongprovider]

The poster is just a joke. That said, I doubt either Mamet's or Williams' daughter would be in this (or have any level of success) without their dads' fame and doors into the industry.

Williams' daughter probably could make it without her dad's gravitas. Maybe not for her talent (she seems fine but hasn't shown enough for me to be wowed by acting talent), but at least for her looks. The difference is she'd probably be on a show like Gossip Girl, rather than a heavily-buzzed HBO show.

(it occurs to me this sounds really fucking sexist, but she looks exactly like the type of girl who stars in a CW show. and hiring beautiful people is as much a reality as nepotism.)

[blahblah...blah]

Also the idea that Lena Dunham got anywhere because her mom is a fine artist is like Fusebox Episode Of Sealab 2012 level hilarious.

You just made me re'watch' that episode, incredible :)

[ivysaur12]

Also the idea that Lena Dunham got anywhere because her mom is a fine artist is like Fusebox Episode Of Sealab 2012 level hilarious.

Absolutely. Same with the rest of the cast. And if they did, so what? Obviously it's been extremely well-received by critics, and half of the people in Hollywood are related to someone famous.