Sinatar
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(04-23-2012, 04:28 PM)

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#3751

So you guys having trouble with the Kayran skipped the side quests to make the win button traps and potion?
VindictiveGnome
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#3752

If I start a new game, does my level and skills carry over?
SerArthurDayne
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(04-23-2012, 04:58 PM)

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#3753

No new game plus. Max level 35, so you can plan accordingly for each playthrough if you want to powergame.

On the Kayran- win button?

I barely ever use traps, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I do know the potion, though, just not what traps you are referring. I just used Yrden. Worried about my dark playthrough, cause I fear 1 hit kills will be had by all.


Also, worst quest:
Melitele's Heart, Chapter 1
The wraiths never end. I didn't have the vitality to take many hits, either. And then you don't seem to get any experience for any of them, anyways. Best strategy is probably just to run in circles for 5 minutes. I can't believe I killed like 20 Wraiths for no reason
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#3754

Kayran is a joke. If you can't beat him, you have no hope for Letho.
SerArthurDayne
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#3755

Kayran is difficult in that it punishes you a ton for messing up. I beat Letho with less difficulty than the Kayran my first play through, about the same on my second.
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(04-23-2012, 05:06 PM)

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#3756

Originally Posted by SerArthurDayne: View Post
Kayran is difficult in that it punishes you a ton for messing up. I beat Letho with less difficulty than the Kayran my first play through, about the same on my second.
This. Letho is tough, but a better example of fair tough. If you stay on your game, attack and defend tactfully, and carefully note he's moves, he is manageable. Tough as nails, but manageable.

The Kayran had cheap kills. And that's lame.
SerArthurDayne
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Originally Posted by EatChildren: View Post
This. Letho is tough, but a better example of fair tough. If you stay on your game, attack and defend tactfully, and carefully note he's moves, he is manageable. Tough as nails, but manageable.

The Kayran had cheap kills. And that's lame.
Yeah, but either improving skills or poorly managed difficulty curve made Chapter 3 Letho II my bitch. I only fought him to see how it went, because I'm not a shitty person who killed him for no reason.
KorrZ
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#3758

Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Kayran is a joke. If you can't beat him, you have no hope for Letho.
Letho was much easier for me, as a first time player on 360. Yrden makes that fight a joke, roll around while he has Quen up, trap him in Yrden when it goes away, give him 2-3 strong hits, rinse and repeat.
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#3759

Originally Posted by Berto: View Post
Indeed. First thing i did was mod that crap.
I've actually lost all desire to continue my second playthrough because of it. Was really excited when I finished my final piece, Anathema, and ran out to the Nekker cave to test it out.

"What the fuck is this, why is it all black and foggy?"

Hilarious. I remember that CDPR was inspired by Arkham Asylum a bit, and they essentially took one of Batman's worst visual offenses, Detective Mode, making it even more common and terrible.
Revolutionary
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Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
I've actually lost all desire to continue my second playthrough because of it. Was really excited when I finished my final piece, Anathema, and ran out to the Nekker cave to test it out.

"What the fuck is this, why is it all black and foggy?"

Hilarious. I remember that CDPR was inspired by Arkham Asylum a bit, and they essentially took one of Batman's worst visual offenses, Detective Mode, making it even more common and terrible.
Except... it's nothing like Detective Mode? It's a visual filter, sure, but that is literally where the comparison begins and ends. The dark filter is meant to be a handicap (not a crutch, like in Batman), and it does it's job quite well in making battles more difficult. The AA inspiration you read about is in the combat, and has nothing to do with visuals (after all, Dark Mode came months after the original release).

The only legitimate complaint I can think up about the Dark effect is what I wrote a few hours ago (I think it's still on this page)... that when combined with rain, it makes for an outrageously dark gameplay experience, up to the point where I felt like I needed to fix my gamma. lol
macfoshizzle
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#3761

guys, how many talent points should i end up with after completing the prologue? i only got 5 but i think i should get 6. the first one i put in to vigor somehow didn't disappeared. is this a bug or was it because i was in a different part of the prologue memory?
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(04-23-2012, 05:32 PM)

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#3762

Originally Posted by SerArthurDayne: View Post
No new game plus. Max level 35, so you can plan accordingly for each playthrough if you want to powergame.

On the Kayran- win button?

I barely ever use traps, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I do know the potion, though, just not what traps you are referring. I just used Yrden. Worried about my dark playthrough, cause I fear 1 hit kills will be had by all.
There are 2 sidequests for the kayran. One to make a potion that makes you immune to it's poison. The other for special traps that insta kill it's tentacles.
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Originally Posted by Revolutionary: View Post
Except... it's nothing like Detective Mode? It's a visual filter, sure, but that is literally where the comparison begins and ends. The dark filter is meant to be a handicap (not a crutch, like in Batman), and it does it's job quite well in making battles more difficult. The AA inspiration you read about is in the combat, and has nothing to do with visuals (after all, Dark Mode came months after the original release).

The only legitimate complaint I can think up about the Dark effect is what I wrote a few hours ago (I think it's still on this page)... that when combined with rain, it makes for an outrageously dark gameplay experience, up to the point where I felt like I needed to fix my gamma. lol
I classified Detective Mode as a visual effect comparison, not a gameplay ability. As in: they're both disgusting and painful to look at.
Neuromancer
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(04-23-2012, 05:37 PM)

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#3764

I really like the game; that said it's not so hot looking on the 360. I was expecting crazy visuals similar to what we got with Crysis 2. (Well the frame rate in that game wasn't great but everything else I thought was amazing.)

Am I wrong? Faces of the main characters look pretty good but other than that I'm not real impressed.
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#3765

Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
I classified Detective Mode as a visual effect comparison, not a gameplay ability. As in: they're both disgusting and painful to look at.
I think CDPR took inspiration on Batman's detective mode in the cat potion effects.
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#3766

Hit level 24 in the middle of Act II. When I first got into Vergen, I hated the place since it's a little disorienting finding places and getting lost.

Still hate the walking though.

re: the royal blood quest
Should I kill Stennis? Or just throw him in jail?

Pros/cons of either choice? Iorveth path btw.
Horse Armour
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(04-23-2012, 05:42 PM)
#3767

So are there any negative consequences to using intimidate/Axii/convince in conversations? Is intimidate somehow worse than Axii/convince?
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#3768

Originally Posted by RS4-: View Post
Hit level 24 in the middle of Act II. When I first got into Vergen, I hated the place since it's a little disorienting finding places and getting lost.
Everywhere is unnecessarily disorienting thanks to no direction indicator on the mini map and no labels on doors.
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Originally Posted by ced: View Post
Everywhere is unnecessarily disorienting thanks to no direction indicator on the mini map and no labels on doors.
I dont know, Flotsam, the camp, and Act 3 are easy enough to navigate. The only place I ever get lost in is Vergen.
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#3770

Originally Posted by Sinatar: View Post
There are 2 sidequests for the kayran. One to make a potion that makes you immune to it's poison. The other for special traps that insta kill it's tentacles.
Must have missed it. How do I get those? Cedric?
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Originally Posted by ced: View Post
Everywhere is unnecessarily disorienting thanks to no direction indicator on the mini map
There is. You have to select the quest you want to follow in the journal, then an arrow will pop up in the mini map.
Salaadin
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#3772

Originally Posted by SerArthurDayne: View Post
Must have missed it. How do I get those? Cedric?
The trap? Its done during a certain quest. Spoilers if you haven't completed "Indecent Proposal"
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Indecent_Proposal

Basically, you only learn of the trap if you complete that quest before killing the Kayran. Otherwise, you have to beat him with Yrden and Mongoose.
macfoshizzle
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#3773

can you buy a house or home in this game or some kind of storage? i would like to store my stuff somewhere where i can retrieve later. or do i just have to sell it?
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Originally Posted by macfoshizzle: View Post
can you buy a house or home in this game or some kind of storage? i would like to store my stuff somewhere where i can retrieve later. or do i just have to sell it?
talk to the owners of the inns
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/The_Witcher_2_storage
Revolutionary
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#3775

Originally Posted by Lyphen: View Post
I classified Detective Mode as a visual effect comparison, not a gameplay ability. As in: they're both disgusting and painful to look at.
Hmm, I can't say I really understand the complaint that Detective Mode is "disgusting and painful" when you can press a single button to be rid of it and relieve yourself. But in The Witcher's case, yes you're 'forced' (although in reality you made the choice to pursue it, despite the warnings) to play with the handicap, so I suppose I can understand that complaint a bit more.

Regardless, I assure you that Dark Mode was not inspired by Detective Mode, even on a visual level. As someone else pointed out, the Cat potion is.
ced
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#3776

Originally Posted by Berto: View Post
There is. You have to select the quest you want to follow in the journal, then an arrow will pop up in the mini map.
I mean a direction like North. There should be a N on the edge of the rotating mini map. I don't mind not having quest direction indicators.
WonkersTHEWatilla
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#3777

Yeah the mini map needs a compass. I was surprised it didn't have that since practically every rpg of this type or any large scale game would have one.
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#3778

Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
I really like the game; that said it's not so hot looking on the 360. I was expecting crazy visuals similar to what we got with Crysis 2. (Well the frame rate in that game wasn't great but everything else I thought was amazing.)

Am I wrong? Faces of the main characters look pretty good but other than that I'm not real impressed.
I think it might be the best looking game on 360.
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#3779

Originally Posted by Berto: View Post
I think CDPR took inspiration on Batman's detective mode in the cat potion effects.
Definitely the better pure analogy, but I had to youtube for it, since luckily I never came across a time where I needed to use the potion in my Roche run.

Dark effect is just a 'ugh, why' thing that I can't find a reasonable excuse for.

Edit: Wait, I think I used cat in the rotfiend mine, completely forgot.
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#3780

Originally Posted by upJTboogie: View Post
I think it might be the best looking game on 360.
Indeed. Considerably better than Crysis 2 when you factor in how large some/most of the environments are and how much freedom you have.

The forest in Flotsam is one of the most realistic I've come across in a game, that alone is an incredible achievement.
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#3781

Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
I really like the game; that said it's not so hot looking on the 360. I was expecting crazy visuals similar to what we got with Crysis 2. (Well the frame rate in that game wasn't great but everything else I thought was amazing.)

Am I wrong? Faces of the main characters look pretty good but other than that I'm not real impressed.
*shrug*

I think it looks fantastic. Certianly better than any other WRPG on either console.
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#3782

Does the 360 version have the same shitty shadow dithering that the pc version has?
Grisby
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#3783

Couple questions on ch1 stuff:

1. Can I only craft one trap for the Kayran? It seems that way as I only had one or two of the ingredients.

2. For the Mystic River quest I need to open this dudes mail box in town but I don't have a high enough persuasion/axill sign deal so it fails. What am I to do?

Really enjoying the game although some parts seem a bit rough around the edges and the texture pop-in can get a bit annoying. SO glad we got an OST as I love the title music.
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(04-23-2012, 06:16 PM)

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#3784

Originally Posted by upJTboogie: View Post
I think it might be the best looking game on 360.
Originally Posted by Phonomezer: View Post
*shrug*

I think it looks fantastic. Certianly better than any other WRPG on either console.
Really? Why do you think that? I'm curious and would like to have a better appreciation for it. Now I will agree that the density of the world is a lot higher than other WRPGs with more details, foliage etc.

Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
Couple questions on ch1 stuff:

1. Can I only craft one trap for the Kayran? It seems that way as I only had one or two of the ingredients.

2. For the Mystic River quest I need to open this dudes mail box in town but I don't have a high enough persuasion/axill sign deal so it fails. What am I to do?

Really enjoying the game although some parts seem a bit rough around the edges and the texture pop-in can get a bit annoying. SO glad we got an OST as I love the title music.
1. Yes it's a one time deal, use your magic trap for the others. I left the kayran trap for the last tenticle since that one was giving me the most trouble.

Not sure about #2.
Grisby
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
1. Yes it's a one time deal, use your magic trap for the others. I left the kayran trap for the last tenticle since that one was giving me the most trouble.

Not sure about #2.
Thanks, what magic trap should I use though? I've been a bomb man up until this point.
Neuromancer
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Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
Thanks, what magic trap should I use though? I've been a bomb man up until this point.
It's one of your magic spells, second one down I believe. Looks like an hour glass turned on its side.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
It's one of your magic spells, second one down I believe. Looks like an hour glass turned on its side.
Aaaahh ok. I thought you meant a 'trap' trap. I've just been wasting things with the fire spell left and right. Who knew creatures burned so easy in the Witcher?

Also, I answered my own question about the Mystic River deal. Just had to use the sign on someone else to level it up enough.

I wish they'd release other Witcher books out here in the states (there are more then two right?). I've read through my two books a third time and want to know what happens with Ciri and crew. I never knew the games apparently took place in tandem with the book's time line though which is pretty neat.
zlatko
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#3788

So my fellow PC peeps. How is the additional content? Worth another go through the whole game?
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#3789

Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
I really like the game; that said it's not so hot looking on the 360. I was expecting crazy visuals similar to what we got with Crysis 2. (Well the frame rate in that game wasn't great but everything else I thought was amazing.)

Am I wrong? Faces of the main characters look pretty good but other than that I'm not real impressed.
Yes you are wrong. Case closed.
SerArthurDayne
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#3790

Originally Posted by Salaadin: View Post
The trap? Its done during a certain quest. Spoilers if you haven't completed "Indecent Proposal"
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Indecent_Proposal

Basically, you only learn of the trap if you complete that quest before killing the Kayran. Otherwise, you have to beat him with Yrden and Mongoose.
That is it, then. Thanks. Did that quest last. I was wondering who the merchant Roche was talking about was.

Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
Aaaahh ok. I thought you meant a 'trap' trap. I've just been wasting things with the fire spell left theand right. Who knew creatures burned so easy in the Witcher?

Also, I answered my own question about the Mystic River deal. Just had to use the sign on someone else to level it up enough.

I wish they'd release other Witcher books out here in the states (there are more then two right?). I've read through my two books a third time and want to know what happens with Ciri and crew. I never knew the games apparently took place in tandem with the book's time line though which is pretty neat.
Games are five years after the books. See my block of spoiler text above for a summary of the books. Truly only the broad strokes, and it come from the Witcher 1, so spoilers are debatable.

CD Projekt is not shy about changing some details from the book, however.
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#3791

Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
I wish they'd release other Witcher books out here in the states (there are more then two right?). I've read through my two books a third time and want to know what happens with Ciri and crew. I never knew the games apparently took place in tandem with the book's time line though which is pretty neat.
Obligatory fan translation link

It's not all there since it's just 2 guys doing it in their spare time, but most of it is. The games take place 5 years after the books, but the game sets up similar scenarios.

Assassin's of Kings has a similar scenario in concept to Times of Contempt. Top levels of government[the sorcerers in the books/kings in the game] get attacked which destabilizes the north leaving an opening for Nilfgaard to advance.

The end of Assassin's of Kings leaves Geralt in a similar situation that he's in for Baptism of Fire. Loved one is missing in Nilfgaard territory and he'll have to head through a warzone if he wants to find them.
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#3792

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime: View Post
Yes you are wrong. Case closed.
I'd just like someone to tell me why they think the graphics are so amazing. I'm open to suggestion.

Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
Aaaahh ok. I thought you meant a 'trap' trap. I've just been wasting things with the fire spell left and right. Who knew creatures burned so easy in the Witcher?

Also, I answered my own question about the Mystic River deal. Just had to use the sign on someone else to level it up enough.

I wish they'd release other Witcher books out here in the states (there are more then two right?). I've read through my two books a third time and want to know what happens with Ciri and crew. I never knew the games apparently took place in tandem with the book's time line though which is pretty neat.
Only two? That stinks. I read The Last Wish and I'm now reading The Blood of Elves so I guess I'm almost done. =\

Originally Posted by Jay Shadow: View Post
Obligatory fan translation link

It's not all there since it's just 2 guys doing it in their spare time, but most of it is. The games take place 5 years after the books, but the game sets up similar scenarios.
How's the quality on those?
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#3793

Originally Posted by ced: View Post
I'm at Chap 3 and just realized what you use mutagens for, and I've sold all mine, fuck.
you can farm them by killing the nekkers inthe cave/endregas etc.

edit oops I see you are on chappter 3 I just started there and wouldn't know if the gargoyles drop them...there were some harpies but again not sure they drop....mutagens were underwhelming for me though....noy really necessary.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
Only two? That stinks. I read The Last Wish and I'm now reading The Blood of Elves so I guess I'm almost done. =\

How's the quality on those?
Sword of Destiny, which is the short stories between Last Wish and Blood of elves is good, but occasionally a bit rough because I guess some of the story titles themselves were hard to translate into English. The books after Blood of Elves are very well done.
Horse Armour
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#3795

Are there any negative consequences to using intimidate/Axii/convince in conversations? Is intimidate somehow worse than Axii/convince?
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This game really reminds me of Dark Souls (beside the many deaths). You can't go bum rush an enemy especially bosses and survive

Kayran:
I died so many times and told myself there's gotta be an opening to this boss. This is impossible (raging at this point). I need a bow or something to kill this.
then I opened by magic wheel and went with my magic trap. Boom. Tentacles got stunned. Slashed on those tentacles like no tomorrow. Once I figured it out, it was a satisfying fight
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Originally Posted by a secret-boss: View Post
This game really reminds me of Dark Souls (beside the many deaths). You can't go bum rush an enemy especially bosses and survive

Kayran:
I died so many times and told myself there's gotta be an opening to this boss. This is impossible (raging at this point). I need a bow or something to kill this.
then I opened by magic wheel and went with my magic trap. Boom. Tentacles get stunned. Slash on those tentacles like no tomorrow. Once I figure it out, it was a satisfying fight
The sorceress Sile also yells during battle to trap it with Yrden.
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#3798

Originally Posted by Horse Armour: View Post
Are there any negative consequences to using intimidate/Axii/convince in conversations? Is intimidate somehow worse than Axii/convince?
Interesting question, I would also like to know if Axii ever fails, because it's been perfect every time I tried it, I thought there would be a risk reward with trying it.
fna84
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#3799

How are the loading times on the 360 without the hard drive?
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Originally Posted by EteRnal_PAL: View Post
The sorceress Sile also yells during battle to trap it with Yrden.
is that y it was covered in electricity. How hard is it if u fight the Kayran w/o any help
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