[HP_Wuvcraft]

That said, you don't need to make sexist comments about women. Women are not children.

I was saying that you sounded like an asshole.

But whatever.

[Count Dookkake]

I was saying that you sounded like an asshole. But whatever.

Oh, it's easier just to say that than to make casually sexist comments, but it's all good.


EDIT: To be clear, describing something as being only bothersome to children isn't really an insult. I meant it in the way of "sheltered" or "inexperienced." I remember being freaked out by a trickle of blood from the corner of a mouth when I was little. (Certainly, there are kids out there who have seen some crazy stuff.) But I do bristle at the notion that you would liken that to something nonsensical like "bothersome to women." I'm not a sexist, so I don't see the world like that. Besides, one of GAF's biggest fans of transgressive cinema is a woman.

[kai3345]

Went in completely blind

Holy.....fuck

Its my movie of the year so far

To be clear, describing something as being only bothersome to children isn't really an insult.

Well, I mean, unless you're a child.

[Ridley327]

Yeah, well, I am going to have to repeat that you are wrong in this context. I might have to conduct an informal poll among educated viewers to see if a substantial portion thinks the film is gory, but I have my doubts.

I've watched enough horror films to count myself as being well versed in the genre, and Cabin in the Woods certainly has its fair share of gore, particularly in the final act of the film. Hell, there's enough lingering shots of the elevator massacre, complete with strewn-about body parts and even some poor soldier's torso falling from the ceiling to qualify the film as being gory by that scene alone. That it's not shown in great detail, I think, is not a good enough reason to disqualify it as being gore; it's just simply not a gore-porn kind of horror film.

Would you say that District 9 was not a gory film? That's about where I'd place the level that this film reaches. District 9 is not a horror film by any stretch, but it is certainly a violent and gory film.

[TJ Bennett]

The Count is right, it's not very gory.

[jet1911]

So if you go by the definition pretty much every film contains gore?

[KevinCow]

How do the guys get blood from people who die in the first place? I'm assuming the ground sucks in their blood right? So I figure what happened was when that guy flipped the switch, he was actually getting the zombie blood while the stoner guy was chopping him into pieces That's the only way I see it makes sense to be honest.

The blood is symbolic. It's not actually their blood.

[HiResDes]

The Count is right, it's not very gory.

Right. Webster doesn't truly determine definitions nor connotations, but rather the people or how a term is commonly used. Gore is an overly gross or excessive depiction of violence and or mutilation.

[DECK'ARD]

Avoided all trailers and reading anything about it.

Loved it, favourite horror film in years.

[Exuro]

Just got back from this. Really enjoyed it. Probably going to be mulling over my thoughts on this which not many movies do. Sort of reminds me of Stay Tuned

[HK-47]

I'd love some long form medium with a story following the facility and the monster collection. Like a comic series of short stories with the facility members as the connecting element.

[Good Job Bob]

I'd love some log form medium with a story following the facility and the monster collection. Like a comic series of short stories with the facility members as the connecting element.

A TV series with this movie's concept would be killer.

[gollumsluvslave]

I had a blast, my fiance hated it.

I guess it depends a lot on expectations going in - I had none, my fiance thought it was going to be a creepy scary film so she was disapointed and found it stupid. Though I also think my wee crush on Kristen Connolly throughout the movie might have made her bias on disliking it.

I think someone else mentioned it that the movie is really a 'Monster Movie', I'd have to agree - it really reminded me of a more adult/gory spin on The Monster Squad from way back in 1987 in the way it was self-aware, more about comedy and having fun with lots of monsters.

That said, I don't think it was a big revolution in horror or anything, and it's not quite as clever as it thinks it is / wants to be - of course that might be me digging too much, I always find that self-awareness is great and poking fun at the tropes is good fun, but when a movie (or even a game, take Bioshock for example) takes that approach, it inevitably falls victim of some kind of double standard to an extent, as to mock the tropes, it has to repeat them to a degree. I'd say that the original Scream to my mind was much cleverer and more successful in the 'meta' approach.

To my mind it's just a great fun monster movie.

[HP_Wuvcraft]

A TV series with this movie's concept would be killer.

I'd like to see that, but I think I'd only watch it in morbid curiosity.

[kavinsky]

Best horror film in years.

[Petrichor]

I don't think it quite lived up to the hype; but enjoyed it thoroughly. It had some very interesting ideas but all in all I don't think they came together as well as they could have. The idea that the ghosts, zombies, etc were "real" was pretty lame I thought (don't remember the explanation for that in the film, was one throwaway line I think).

Am I the only one who thinks that the whole "game" angle of it would have been better coming as a twist towards the end of the film rather than being shown throughout? Obviously with some careful signposting so that it didn't come out of nowhere. I just felt like because we knew that all the horror was being controlled, that it wasn't particularly scary or shocking (until the end at least...). I understand why the writers wanted the motivation to be a "ritual" (because it seems like horror films follow these rules for no particular reason), but I still think that was a pretty lame motivation.

I don't think it quite lives up to my favourite horror films of recent years, [REC], [REC]2, and Triangle. They too were primarily ideas driven but were executed much more effectively, imo

[HK-47]

I don't think it quite lived up to the hype; but enjoyed it thoroughly. It had some very interesting ideas but all in all I don't think they came together as well as they could have. The idea that the ghosts, zombies, etc were "real" was pretty lame I thought (don't remember the explanation for that in the film, was one throwaway line I think). Am I the only one who thinks that the whole "game" angle of it would have been better coming as a twist towards the end of the film rather than being shown throughout? Obviously with some careful signposting so that it didn't come out of nowhere. I just felt like because we knew that all the horror was being controlled, that it wasn't particularly scary or shocking (until the end at least...). I understand why the writers wanted the motivation to be a "ritual" (because it seems like horror films follow these rules for no particular reason), but I still think that was a pretty lame motivation. I don't think it quite lives up to my favourite horror films of recent years, [REC], [REC]2, and Triangle. They too were primarily ideas driven but were executed much more effectively, imo

The idea that the monsters were real and part of a rotation was the coolest thing about the film. Also did anyone else think of the Cube series as soon as the camera zoomed out from the elevator?

[DECK'ARD]

I had a blast, my fiance hated it. I guess it depends a lot on expectations going in - I had none, my fiance thought it was going to be a creepy scary film so she was disapointed and found it stupid. Though I also think my wee crush on Kristen Connolly throughout the movie might have made her bias on disliking it. I think someone else mentioned it that the movie is really a 'Monster Movie', I'd have to agree - it really reminded me of a more adult/gory spin on The Monster Squad from way back in 1987 in the way it was self-aware, more about comedy and having fun with lots of monsters. That said, I don't think it was a big revolution in horror or anything, and it's not quite as clever as it thinks it is / wants to be - of course that might be me digging too much, I always find that self-awareness is great and poking fun at the tropes is good fun, but when a movie (or even a game, take Bioshock for example) takes that approach, it inevitably falls victim of some kind of double standard to an extent, as to mock the tropes, it has to repeat them to a degree. I'd say that the original Scream to my mind was much cleverer and more successful in the 'meta' approach. To my mind it's just a great fun monster movie.

A monster movie is a good way of describing it, it did have a B-Movie vibe about it but a modern take on it and the humour deliberate. Thought it pulled it off really well.

Just really good to see an original take on horror movies again. Whereas Scream was deconstructing them, this was genuinely out of the box thinking.

Perfect ending as well.

The idea that the monsters were real and part of a rotation was the coolest thing about the film. Also did anyone else think of the Cube series as soon as the camera zoomed out from the elevator?

Yeah, that was the first thing that entered my head.

Very cool to see all that in the way they did it.

[Tguy]

Damn this movie is great tho, it makes you question life and gore

[GasProblem]

Saw this last night and had a great time. It's more of a comedy then a horror. Girls behind me were like "What the fuck are we watching".

[BertramCooper]

So who was "the Whore" in the room full of Japanese elementary school kids?

[Tguy]

So who was "the Whore" in the room full of Japanese elementary school kids?

There's not one. It reflects the japanese horror culture not US

[BertramCooper]

There's not one. It reflects the japanese horror culture not US

I was just joking, but I'm assuming the ancient gods have the same requirements at all of the sites across the globe. So there should be a whore, a fool, an athlete, a scholar, and a virgin in all of the scenarios.

But as the director said, they make due with what they have.

[Tguy]

I was just joking, but I'm assuming the ancient gods have the same requirements at all of the sites across the globe. So there should be a whore, a fool, an athlete, a scholar, and a virgin in all of the scenarios. But as the director said, they make due with what they have.

No I'm pretty certain every site has their own requirements. The director basically hinted at that and it makes more sense for the japanese site to reflect JP horror films..instead of US horror films when there's usually those 5 types of people

[BertramCooper]

No I'm pretty certain every site has their own requirements. The director basically hinted at that and it makes more sense for the japanese site to reflect JP horror films..instead of US horror films when there's usually those 5 types of people

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

[Tguy]

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

Okay this movie just sucks. I got a hangover we'll have to continue this later lol

[GasProblem]

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

Maybe each site has its own Old God with different requirements, like the Japanese Old God only wants young girls or something like that.

[DECK'ARD]

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

Yes it does make sense.

Because it's saying these different horror stories, myths and traditions are based on a real evil that manifested itself in different ways in each part of the world.

Placating the evil was about making those stories happen for real again, the old God(s) had got tired of these things being reduced to fictional stories just for scaring people.

[MightyHedgehog]

Really fun movie that's enhanced by the more you know about what they're referencing. Still, as funny and well-put-together as it was, it's not at all scary or much of a horror movie and, really, more of a dark comedy. The lab characters steal the show.

[BertramCooper]

Yes it does make sense. Because it's saying these different horror stories, myths and traditions are based on a real evil that manifested itself in different ways in each part of the world. Placating the evil was about making those stories happen for real again, the old God(s) had got tired of these things being reduced to fictional stories just for scaring people.

So does that mean that all of the gods are placated by a sacrifice made to one specific god? If all of the gods have different tastes in sacrifices, why are they all appeased by just one per year?

EDIT: Yeah, I'm over-analyzing. I'll just shut up now.

[DECK'ARD]

So does that mean that all of the gods are placated by a sacrifice made to one specific god? If all of the gods have different tastes in sacrifices, why are they all appeased by just one per year? EDIT: Yeah, I'm over-analyzing. I'll just shut up now.

Think of it like a fallen Empire, who once used to be all powerful and rule the world still wanting to show they are relevant. It's just an Empire of evil incorporating all the different traditions of it around the world.

If they can't get their symbolic victories it all boils over and they try to take it all back again.

[HK-47]

Box Office Mojo explains the CinemaScore really well: Still, 15mil is nothing to scoff at for a movie like Cabin.

The exact people the movie was criticizing.

[iammeiam]

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

It kind of makes sense to me if you go back to the line about how it used to be about chucking virgins in volcanos. Assuming that people across the world have been trying to appease these guys throughout human history, different regions would have developed their own ways of sacrifice based on whatever was available in their region. You can't chuck a virgin in a volcano without access to a volcano, etc. Eventually globalization would have put the different groups in contact with each other, and probably eventually united as a single entity so they could share funding/know of successes and failures, etc. But by that point cultural horror tropes were already established.

At this point it does all become overthinking, but for fun: It's possible that each region's unique method of horror would work elsewhere (ie, the virgin/whore/jock/nerd/fool grouping would work fine in Japan if you assembled them, and a ghost slaughtering some elementary kids in the US would suffice), but it'd be really hard (and dangerous) to test out and determine since individual success/failure is irrelevant and it's only global success/failure that matters. Japan knows what works for Japan, so they stick with it. US knows what works for US, so they stick with it.

[Messofanego]

It kind of makes sense to me if you go back to the line about how it used to be about chucking virgins in volcanos. Assuming that people across the world have been trying to appease these guys throughout human history, different regions would have developed their own ways of sacrifice based on whatever was available in their region. You can't chuck a virgin in a volcano without access to a volcano, etc. Eventually globalization would have put the different groups in contact with each other, and probably eventually united as a single entity so they could share funding/know of successes and failures, etc. But by that point cultural horror tropes were already established. At this point it does all become overthinking, but for fun: It's possible that each region's unique method of horror would work elsewhere (ie, the virgin/whore/jock/nerd/fool grouping would work fine in Japan if you assembled them, and a ghost slaughtering some elementary kids in the US would suffice), but it'd be really hard (and dangerous) to test out and determine since individual success/failure is irrelevant and it's only global success/failure that matters. Japan knows what works for Japan, so they stick with it. US knows what works for US, so they stick with it.

Wait, so humans are the ones creating the archetypes, not the gods themselves?

People are just making up their own theories now, giving the film too much credit.

[HK-47]

Wait, so humans are the ones creating the archetypes, not the gods themselves? People are just making up their own theories now, giving the film too much credit.

Why is that of all things giving it too much credit?

[Seguin]

Was it ever explained why the stoner was the only one to hear a voice?

[iammeiam]

Was it ever explained why the stoner was the only one to hear a voice?

Yep. They thought they'd drugged his weed to make him more susceptible to everything, but late in the game Acker finds out he had a secret stash he's been smoking out of that they'd missed. Instead of being more susceptible, for whatever reason, plain marijuana made him more aware of their manipulative actions. She says something about it effectively making him more resistant.

[Jakabok]

I wonder when the rituals started? Presumably they've being going on for thousands of years, judging by them calling the gods 'ancient ones'. Obviously most of the technology involved would only have been invented fairly recently. Why the need for all the high-tech manipulation at all when this would have been possible in the past? Also how were the monsters contained before?

[HP_Wuvcraft]

People are just making up their own theories now, giving the film too much credit.

People being able to give their own meanings to things is a staple of good writing. Giving meaning when it clearly is not, there, however, is not.

[3pheMeraLmiX]

Yep. They thought they'd drugged his weed to make him more susceptible to everything, but late in the game Acker finds out he had a secret stash he's been smoking out of that they'd missed. Instead of being more susceptible, for whatever reason, plain marijuana made him more aware of their manipulative actions. She says something about it effectively making him more resistant.

She says something to the effect of His weed is making him immune to all of our shit.

[Host Samurai]

Just came back from seeing this and the last parts of the movie were awesome. The trailers didn't really ruin too much of it IMO but its just pure insanity. Not really a scary movie but it was a good thriller with some horror elements and it reminded me of the manga Gantz in a lot of ways. Check this out, it was a ballsy movie that actually took a chance.

[anaron]

Finally saw it Thursday night. So much fucking fun.


I wonder how liberating it was for Joss to finally do justice (budget wise) to the 'Initiative'. I'm pretty grateful Amy Acker was killed off-screen. I doubt even they could handle seeing that. :P


This dumbass couple brought their entire family to this - which included two eight or nine year old girls. Following the film, some guy chewed them out for it which was kind of amazing and the icing on this whole experience.

[devenger]

I took it as the ancient ones were deep in the center of the Earth, and any successful ritual counted, as long as it was the specific ritual of their culture. All across the globe, major societies have giant altar chambers hovering over the lava babies, or whatever the expy for Lovecraftian gods are.

Japan appeases the gods every year by pulling off their ju-on ringu schtick. U.S. comes in second every year as a backup, with their more complicated , role specific ritual. Each one is reflective of each culture's horror movies. Sweden's scenario was the Thing compound, Madrid had the REC building, but any one success would have worked for the planet.

So why are people asking who the whore was in the 9 year old Japanese class?

Wait, so humans are the ones creating the archetypes, not the gods themselves? People are just making up their own theories now, giving the film too much credit.

Sigourney said the ritual was based on regional culture, meaning what Americans like in a horror movie.

[HP_Wuvcraft]

If you really think about it, and this is a mindfuck, the basis for this movie started with Scooby-Doo.

Freddy: The Athlete
Veronica: The Whore
Wilma: The Scholar
Shaggy: The Fool

[Good Job Bob]

If you really think about it, and this is a mindfuck, the basis for this movie started with Scooby-Doo. Freddy: The Athlete Veronica: The Whore Wilma: The Scholar Shaggy: The Fool

Scooby-Doo: The Virgin

[adamsappel]

When the call came from "upstairs" I thought it was a call from God. But in that link with answers from Goddard, he said that "upstairs" meant the bosses (except when it meant the cabin), but then they talk about "downstairs" too. Then who was phone?

This dumbass couple brought their entire family to this - which included two eight or nine year old girls. Following the film, some guy chewed them out for it which was kind of amazing and the icing on this whole experience.

Every time some zombie started hacking up one of the kids, about 20 feet away I'd hear this little voice pipe up, "D...addy?" I hate parents who bring kids to age-inappropriate movies (and it's always horror or action movies, they'd probably be horrified to bring them to a drama with a sex scene). I was planning on saying something, but I stuck around to see if there was an extra scene after the credits (and I hate this trend, also).


On whether the film is "gory," it depends on the person asking. To a hardcore horror fan, I'd say no, it's got a lot of blood. For the person in this thread who asked, I'd say yes, it's got a lot of blood.

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Scooby-Doo: The Virgin

YES.

[3pheMeraLmiX]

So why are people asking who the whore was in the 9 year old Japanese class?

They weren't paying attention.

[sangreal]

I'm over-analyzing this, but it doesn't make any sense that the different sites, which operate independently but are ultimately part of the same organization, would have different requirements when they're all seeking to fulfill the same set of angry gods.

They have the same requirements (to appease the gods), it's the implementation which is different, and the foreign sites all fail. Considering the gods represent the audience, it's just a commentary on the lack of acceptance of foreign horror films which do things differently. Your question could be applied directly to the actual movie industry. If all films are competing for the same money, and formulaic American films make the most money, why don't all horror films worldwide emulate them?

Also, I would not call this movie gorey.

[Kevin]

Me and a friend went and saw this and both loved it. Will buy on Blu-Ray upon release. :)