[Xiaoki]

Exactly. Some here are trying way to hard to discredit the first fucking unreal 3 engine game running @ 60 fps on a vita when it's a feat that's almost impossible on any other console or tablet.

So, how exactly is this using Unreal Engine 3? Other than a bit of basic lighting for the backgrounds this has no UE3 effects at all.

If the characters had normal mapping, self shadowing, and some type of lighting to them I would forgive the extremely low poly models but theres nothing.

[fernoca]

So, how exactly is this using Unreal Engine 3? Other than a bit of basic lighting for the backgrounds this has no UE3 effects at all. If the characters had normal mapping, self shadowing, and some type of lighting to them I would forgive the extremely low poly models but theres nothing.

Engines are more than just effects (i.e. Red Steel and Bioshock were made with Unreal 2.5; yet are on different platforms and look completely different too).

In this case, since the original console game was done with (a modified) Unreal Engine 3; it was easier to port to the Vita because Vita is compatible with UE3. Is why they haven't ported it to the 3DS or couldn't done it on Wii back then either.

[dark10x]

Though not "fully" , the game does feature less animated aspects in the backgrounds; or at least that was what I noticed on a demo I played...plus the reviews (ex. like Destructoid) mentioning it on their reviews. And a few videos too like this one, were there's only one Servbot and the other robots are just there (there are Servbots running around and robots move in the water and ground in the console version) Which is part of the sacrifices across all 3 games in order to achieve something closer to the console versions. (Not saying that one is better than the other) Agree with the part of the engine anyway. Capcom ported the engine themselves and the results show too. In this case; either they used the Vita code Epic provided or made their own. NetheRealm's first UE3 game (vs DC Universe) didn't looked that great; and the MK2011 did looked great..so maybe they'll get better with time.

I think you misread my post. I was actually talking about the upcoming Street Fighter X Tekken, not UMVC3.

SFXT seems to include all of the background character animation that is present in the console game, which was not true in UMVC3.

[fernoca]

I think you misread my post. I was actually talking about the upcoming Street Fighter X Tekken, not UMVC3. SFXT seems to include all of the background character animation that is present in the console game, which was not true in UMVC3.

Yeah, re-read it later...but forgot to add an "edit". :p

Guess will know for sure come release. Guess for MK, because of the visible damage it was "easier" for the game with less detailed character models. Coupled with the transitions to X-rays which show the insides and the fatalities which technically took the characters and rip them to pieces; maybe it was less taxing for the engine that way..to stay at 60fps.

Less than a month before release, so...we'll see. So far, impressions has been positive.

[Cold-Steel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ao0...layer_embedded

Feels mighty chilly in here.

[Live Free or Die]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ao0...layer_embedded Feels mighty chilly in here.

Wowzers.

[Zulithe]

gameplay from the trailer looks embarassingly bad. I expect way more from a Vita game. It's a fighter... all you have to draw on screen are two characters and a background. They should be able to do a LOT BETTER than this.

[Slurmer]

gameplay from the trailer looks embarassingly bad. I expect way more from a Vita game. It's a fighter... all you have to draw on screen are two characters and a background. They should be able to do a LOT BETTER than this.

How much more are you expecting? 60fps and looks good to me.

[friskykillface]

Would you say it looks as bad in person as that trailer makes it look? I never really had a problem with the downgraded graphics before, but this looks like a big difference. If that's what it takes to make 60fps, so be it, but I also don't want to support a lazy effort.

whoa sorry for the late response, but yeah its playable of course but you'll notice it doesn't look good, but there wasn't any lag or delayed stuff like that, if i saw that i would have been blown away.




i'm still 50/50 on this, i want to play more as dat freddy, haha i did his fatality and took someone to hell B^)

[MDSLKTR]

Probably irrelevant since we are in another vita bashing thread but there's new footage here and it looks as good as it did before.

[DMPrince]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ao0...layer_embedded Feels mighty chilly in here.

0:18.

[infinityBCRT]

Based on the screenshots/video I've seen, seems like they should have worked on baking in some lighting onto the textures. If they had done that I think the game in motion would probably look OK.

BTW, still want these skins for the console version in some form. I'm doubting they'd do it, but an ultimate edition of the game with Robo Smoke, Playable/Balanced Bosses, and a few of the missing stages from the original trilogy (Portal, Kombat Tomb, Pit II, Bank, Pit III), more costumes, plus a new challenge tower would be more than enough for me.

[tkscz]

Exactly. Some here are trying way to hard to discredit the first fucking unreal 3 engine game running @ 60 fps on a vita when it's a feat that's almost impossible on any other console or tablet.

It isn't using the UE3 engine, but Namco got Tekken 3D prime edition to run at 60 FPS, while in 3D, while having hires textures (for the fighters anyway), shaders and lighting. Just saying it could've been optimized better, give it more time to really freshen it up and not rush it out.

[LestradeTGQ]

I played this at GDC and thought it looked mighty good. It didn't feel as beefy as the PS3 version I'm used to, but I was impressed at how smooth it was. Played great, from what I recall. I took some footage of the game idling; I could check.

Those ads are bonkers. I love the concept and the photography, but the costumes are embarrassing. The funny thing is, even of they showed a male character, it would seem just as silly.

I don't have a Vita but damn, do I love the idea of this. I must admit, I wish there was a 3DS version.

[nexen]

I'm still terribly excited about this. Hope there is a demo though after all the talk of bad graphics.

[DoctorWho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ao0...layer_embedded Feels mighty chilly in here.

I my pants.

[demigod]

Game looks like shit. I'd rather take the better details than 60fps. I can't even tell 30fps from 60fps on consoles.

[tkscz]

Game looks like shit. I'd rather take the better details than 60fps. I can't even tell 30fps from 60fps on consoles.

If you played the console version, you'll notice that gameplay moves much faster/smoother than the cut-scenes. The cut-scenes are 30fps and the gameplay is 60fps.

[dark10x]

Game looks like shit. I'd rather take the better details than 60fps. I can't even tell 30fps from 60fps on consoles.

Speak for yourself. 60 fps is much smoother than 30 fps. The two are worlds apart.

I thought the game looked pretty good in this latest video...

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...-kombat/729442

If you played the console version, you'll notice that gameplay moves much faster/smoother than the cut-scenes. The cut-scenes are 30fps and the gameplay is 60fps.

The cutscenes are only 30 fps because they are compressed video clips used to hide loading.

[Lyte Edge]

Probably irrelevant since we are in another vita bashing thread but there's new footage here and it looks as good as it did before.

Looks good to me. Looks like the contrast or brightness needs to be adjusted, but that could just be the video.

It certainly doesn't look bad, there's still background animation going on, and it's at 60FPS...as long as the online play doesn't stink, I'm there. Frankly I'd rather play Mortal Kombat over BlazBlue and UMvC3, so I hope the game turns out well.

[Dacvak]

This game looks great, what's the big fuss? This is probably a day one for me.

[DoctorWho]

This game looks great, what's the big fuss? This is probably a day one for me.

I've excited too.

One week away.

[SteeloDMZ]

That skins trailer looks great, and I'm sure it will look excellent on the Vita's screen.

Downloading it day one.

BTW, if anyone plans to play this online a lot, add me (same username as in here). I played the shit out of the console version, and it will be nice to have a companion game where I can train and stuff.

[fernoca]

Probably irrelevant since we are in another vita bashing thread but there's new footage here and it looks as good as it did before.

Nice!
Adding that to the the other thread.

[AwRy108]

I've excited too. One week away.

I'm really looking forward to this but, man, the graphics took a huge hit: just pause the most recent video when Sheeva is on the screen and you'll see what I mean. Seriously, looks like late PSOne / early PS2 polygons...

[nexen]

New video looks hot. Will buy.

[tearsofash]

Aren't trailers for vita games usually riddled with post-processing otherwise they look like trash? Something about being optimized for an oled screen.

[Takuan]

Looks below the Vita's capabilities.

[Kai Dracon]

Looking at the new footage, shader issues aside, the visual presentation is remarkably complete in a mechanical sense. The only background I can see which is missing ANY animation is the soul chamber squid creature. Its tentacles are still in the Vita version. But those are highly animated and must have lots of rigging.

The other stages all appear to be more or less 100% intact, even all the warfare going on in the Earth urban stages.

[AwRy108]

Looking at the new footage, shader issues aside, the visual presentation is remarkably complete in a mechanical sense. The only background I can see which is missing ANY animation is the soul chamber squid creature. Its tentacles are still in the Vita version. But those are highly animated and must have lots of rigging. The other stages all appear to be more or less 100% intact, even all the warfare going on in the Earth urban stages.

I'd rather sacrifice the quality of the backgrounds for character models and textures that actually look up to snuff with the Vita hardware.

[Kai Dracon]

I'd rather sacrifice the quality of the backgrounds for character models and textures that actually look up to snuff with the Vita hardware.

It's a tradeoff, sure. I guess it boils down to what bugs you more.

[AwRy108]

It's a tradeoff, sure. I guess it boils down to what bugs you more.

In my experience with UMvC3 on the Vita, I barely take notice of the backgrounds, which is probably a combination of being on a portable device and the nature of the gameplay requiring me to focus squarely on the fighting. From a design standpoint, it seems more sensible to make the most prominent part of the games--the on-screen fighters--look as detailed as possible, even if it means reverting to nearly static backgrounds.

IMHO, the Street Fighter II series had some of the best backgrounds of any fighter because they showcased a setting without taking the focus off of the super detailed fighters. The drop in fidelity of the fighters in this version of MK makes me not want to look too closely at them, especially considering its following up the gorgeous console versions.

[Kai Dracon]

In my experience with UMvC3 on the Vita, I barely take notice of the backgrounds, which is probably a combination of being on a portable device and the nature of the gameplay requiring me to focus squarely on the fighting. From a design standpoint, it seems more sensible to make the most prominent part of the games--the on-screen fighters--look as detailed as possible, even if it means reverting to nearly static backgrounds. IMHO, the Street Fighter II series had some of the best backgrounds of any fighter because they showcased a setting without taking the focus off of the super detailed fighters. The drop in fidelity of the fighters in this version of MK makes me not want to look too closely at them, especially considering its following up the gorgeous console versions.

My complaint with Capcom's porting strategy for SSFIV3D and UMVC3 was mainly that it looks hacky and janky; if they couldn't animate the backgrounds ala the console versions, the proper way to do it would have been to redesign the backgrounds with alternate animations so that it didn't look half-assed and weird.

It's always the issue with these rushed ports though, right? MK here, seems "rushed" from an engine support standpoint, being too early in Vita's life cycle for UE3 support to be up to snuff.

Meanwhile, SFxT on Vita is apparently being ported correctly; time taken to polish up the visual presentation in all areas.

[2&2]

My complaint with Capcom's porting strategy for SSFIV3D and UMVC3 was mainly that it looks hacky and janky; if they couldn't animate the backgrounds ala the console versions, the proper way to do it would have been to redesign the backgrounds with alternate animations so that it didn't look half-assed and weird. It's always the issue with these rushed ports though, right? MK here, seems "rushed" from an engine support standpoint, being too early in Vita's life cycle for UE3 support to be up to snuff. Meanwhile, SFxT on Vita is apparently being ported correctly; time taken to polish up the visual presentation in all areas.

I give Capcom a pass on the backgrounds if they come up with alternate control methods via touchscreens to compensate for awkwardness of the controls on a pad/portable. At least they did that in SSFIV on the 3DS with the touchscreen mappings. They did absolutely nothing on UMvC3 to account for how awkward all the multi-button presses can be. Just a straight port of the control mappings. How are you supposed to play Phoenix Weight? Complete waste of both touchscreens. Somehow they thought "Ultimate controller mode" was more important than touchscreen areas on the system the game is actually running on. Ugh. So Dumb. Does anyone play these?

Capcom has been consistently boneheaded and shortsighted in their button configs in pretty much every recent conversion (MvC2, SF3OE, UMvC3 Vita). At least they seem to be using their head with the options in SFxT.

[dark10x]

My complaint with Capcom's porting strategy for SSFIV3D and UMVC3 was mainly that it looks hacky and janky; if they couldn't animate the backgrounds ala the console versions, the proper way to do it would have been to redesign the backgrounds with alternate animations so that it didn't look half-assed and weird. It's always the issue with these rushed ports though, right? MK here, seems "rushed" from an engine support standpoint, being too early in Vita's life cycle for UE3 support to be up to snuff. Meanwhile, SFxT on Vita is apparently being ported correctly; time taken to polish up the visual presentation in all areas.

MvC3 for Vita was pretty damn close, though. Most of the background elements were animated. Only the stages with crowds were static, but all non-character background elements are fully active.

[DoctorWho]

UMVC3 for Vita is a great port for me. I've had no issues with it at all. A few non-animated background characters isn't going to ruin the experience.

[danno1769]

One week.. cant wait!

As far as UMvC3 goes, I enjoy that game a ton. The background elements no being animated doesnt bother me because the frame rate is money.

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

Saw the trophy list. I can't believe they brought back my kung fu is stronger. Who wants to spend another 400 hours mastering characters? No seriously. That's pretty damn scummy.

[DoctorWho]

Saw the trophy list. I can't believe they brought back my kung fu is stronger. Who wants to spend another 400 hours mastering characters? No seriously. That's pretty damn scummy.

You don't have to get it.

No one is forcing you.