[Ignis Fatuus]

Good.

[BruiserBear]

*sigh* Why does this have to be a R vs D lib vs con issue? I lean right on some issues and it seems to me that Zimmerman profiled a kid, stalked, confronted, and when the confrontation didn't go his way he murdered a child. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue. This is a right or wrong issue. He should be in jail at the very least.

Because some right wing radio hosts gave their opinion on the case.

Don't try and separate yourself from them. You're part of the problem now. Just accept your role as a Zimmerman defender from here on out.

[soundahfekz]

Owned. He will kill himself. Riddance.

Damn I totally blew that typing fast, damn shame as I know how to spell it too, lol

[Fjolle]

Wait. I haven't followed the thread... Is he gone? Did he fire his lawyer?

[PhoenixPause]

It's a fucking disgrace it took this long

[Korey]

Wait. I haven't followed the thread... Is he gone? Did he fire his lawyer?

His lawyers resigned yesterday because Zimmerman stopped answering their calls.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/justic...?iref=obinsite

[Big Baybee]

Because some right wing radio hosts gave their opinion on the case. Don't try and separate yourself from them. You're part of the problem now. Just accept your role as a Zimmerman defender from here on out.

Come on man. Just stop.

[MightyHealthy]

*sigh* Why does this have to be a R vs D lib vs con issue? I lean right on some issues and it seems to me that Zimmerman profiled a kid, stalked, confronted, and when the confrontation didn't go his way he murdered a child. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue. This is a right or wrong issue. He should be in jail at the very least.

If I remember correctly, the Repubs actually issued statements in support of Trayvon, then they fell back after the Fox News crowd started to prosecute Trayvon for being black.

[Aylinato]

yesssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JCreasy]

I feel a knot loosening in my stomach that I didn't even know was there :)

[Count Dookkake]

Damn I totally blew that typing fast, damn shame as I know how to spell it too, lol

No worries, just looking out.

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Now they have to find him. His lawyers bailed because they've been unable to contact him.

[BruiserBear]

Come on man. Just stop.

I agree. Everyone should stop trying to turn this story into a political one. Just because some political opportunists try and make it so, doesn't mean we should follow suit on this forum. Everyone can just be happy this case is progressing through the legal system.

[shadyspace]

Come on man it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and figure it out. And I can tell you right now it will not matter what Zimmerman is charged and/or convicted with no one on either side will be happy with the results.

What are you talking about? What sides?

[xbhaskarx]

This is a sad day for those of us who would like to shoot whoever we want with no consequences...

[snesfreak]

Good.
Fucker murdered an unarmed kid, put him away for life at minimum.

[LordCanti]

I have a feeling that the proper evidence wasn't gathered at the scene and that the phone call of a man (probably Trayvon) yelling help won't be enough to convict him. This is a positive step in any case.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I meant what is it that he believes those pictures say.

Tha was the reaction. To quote Chris Rock, "Black people got tot happy, white people got too mad."

Its the supposition that the opinion on criminal justice in the United States varies wildly based on racial demogrpahics. And in some sense, I can't disagree.

[LegatoB]

Where the hell are they going to find an objective jury for this?

[Neuromancer]

I'm guessing it will be manslaughter or some such. Not homicide.

[Jonm1010]

I was just referring to the division of opinion in both cases that are solely caused by either race or racism.

Some of the reactions to the OJ Simpson acquittal still baffle me?

Not to derail the thread but can anyone break down why there was such a joyous reaction from some?

[shadyspace]

Tha was the reaction. To quote Chris Rock, "Black people got tot happy, white people got too mad." Its the supposition that the opinion on criminal justice in the United States varies wildly based on racial demogrpahics. And in some sense, I can't disagree.

So black people want a murder to be brought to justice and white people him to go free? That's the narrative everyone's going with now? I must have missed that over all the cries of outrage of every single white person I know.

[xbhaskarx]

yesssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irony?
Heston was president of the NRA...

[ElFly]

IT WAS ABOUT TIME

Let's see if zimmerman is still in florida when they try to bring him to the court, though.

[Atramental]

About Fucking Time!

[JCreasy]

WOW

[Prost]

SPECIAL PROSECUTOR IS HAVING A PRESSER IN 4 HOURS @cnnbrk: Prosecutor to hold briefing in next 4 hours on possible charging of Zimmerman in #Martin case.

Why are there conflicting reports on this? Is she announcing charges or not?

Edit:
"Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET] George Zimmerman “will be (criminally) charged if (he) hasn’t been charged already,” according to a senior law enforcement source familiar with the Trayvon Martin death investigation."

There we go.

[Kapura]

Zimmerman's lawyers lose contact with him, drop him, and THEN he gets charged.

[polyh3dron]

*sigh* Why does this have to be a R vs D lib vs con issue? I lean right on some issues and it seems to me that Zimmerman profiled a kid, stalked, confronted, and when the confrontation didn't go his way he murdered a child. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue. This is a right or wrong issue. He should be in jail at the very least.

This is an example why I hate Republicans and why you should too. They simply take contrarian stances on things that shouldn't even be partisan issues and they turn them into partisan issues. And then Fox News basically convinces the right wing base to adopt the same position and you have a substantial portion of the country defending a cold blooded murderer as a result.

[xbhaskarx]

I'm guessing it will be manslaughter or some such. Not homicide.

[JCreasy]

Why are there conflicting reports on this? Is she announcing charges or not?

Don't worry, ABC has confirmed it

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimm...9#.T4XR9VFAYuc

A Florida special prosecutor has decided to charge neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, sources told ABC News.

[methane47]

WOW

oh snap!

[thefro]

I'm guessing it will be manslaughter or some such. Not homicide.

Probably as it should be unless they have more evidence. Hopefully he has a fair trial and we figure out what happened.

[Mammoth Jones]

I agree. Everyone should stop trying to turn this story into a political one. Just because some political opportunists try and make it so, doesn't mean we should follow suit on this forum.

The circumstances that make this a "political" issue is that why as a society did it take ALL THIS just to charge a man that admitted shooting a child who did nothing wrong?

[neojubei]

About fucking time.

This is how I feel.

[soundscream]

WOW

I wonder if he prefers syrup or jelly?

[Stet]

I wonder if he prefers syrup or jelly?

what in the world does this mean

[Allard]

I agree. Everyone should stop trying to turn this story into a political one. Just because some political opportunists try and make it so, doesn't mean we should follow suit on this forum. Everyone can just be happy this case is progressing through the legal system.

Zimmerman and his family are making it a political one with their comments. They have been trying to make the case for weeks that they are being unfairly attacked by left leaning base and media and have been reaching out in a broad stroke to the right wing media. His talk with Hannity alone yesterday (or at least recently) puts these facts into place. I know for a fact that most right wing people that I know are out raged by the case, but even they are starting to get 'turned around' because of segments of the right wing media and politicians going out of there way to stand up for Zimmerman, and even recently I have seen some people try defend or limit the damage to Zimmerman due to this comments from the pundits of the world. It shouldn't be a political issue but because of some people's persecution complexes it has turned into one.

[Count Dookkake]

what in the world does this mean

Salad dressing.

[JCreasy]

I wonder if he prefers syrup or jelly?

what in the world does this mean

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCM-cqsF-0

[soundscream]

what in the world does this mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I7Bo-MlTqQ

[Mammoth Jones]

I wonder if he prefers syrup or jelly?

jelly.

[Count Dookkake]

It's funnier if you don't explain the joke.

[JCX]

FINALLY.

[Atramental]

what in the world does this mean

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Some of the reactions to the OJ Simpson acquittal still baffle me? Not to derail the thread but can anyone break down why there was such a joyous reaction from some?

The reaction to OJ Simpson's acquittal was the result of a couple things.

1. Mark Fuhrman. An investigating detective on the OJ Simpson case. The issues with him and his conduct on the case were notable. First, he entered the Simpson estate in Brentwood without a warrant, under the exigent cirumstances that he thought Simpson had attemtped suicide.

2. Johnny Cochran. Johnny planted the seed in public opinion, since this trial was aired over news channels, that Mark Fuhrman planted the singture bloody glove on the Simpson premises. He also alleged that Fuhrman was a racist due to his consistent usage of the word "nigger." And co counsel F. Lee Bailey got Fuhrman to contradict himself on his usage of the word.

This made the case a racial issue. (Johnny Cochran was brilliant in this sense. Pandering, but brilliantly pandering.) Due to the hisotry with the black community and the LAPD, such as the Ramparts division, Rodney King, the black community was very suspicious of the LAPD. And OJ, was kind of a price at the time. Heisman winnder. ex NFL great, movie star etc. So it became, an issue of another black man being railroaded by The Man.

So, when OJ was acquitted, even though yeah he probably killed those two people, it was the popular perception that they were just happy that a black person got one by on the system. In retribution for past screwings. The perception was the white community's reaction was disproportional in their outrage of the murder acquittal, and that disproportionate anger was due to latent racism,

[sangreal]

He'll still get off when all is said and done.

I'm okay with that. He still needed to be charged

[BruiserBear]

The circumstances that make this a "political" issue is that why as a society did it take ALL THIS just to charge a man that admitted shooting a child who did nothing wrong?

Sometimes people do some really stupid things. We already know the police wanted to charge Zimmerman, but the states attorney stepped in and stopped it. That one states attorney does not make an entire society corrupted.

The wrong is now being corrected.

Zimmerman and his family are making it a political one with their comments. They have been trying to make the case for weeks that they are being unfairly attacked by left leaning base and media and have been reaching out in a broad stroke to the right wing media. His talk with Hannity alone yesterday (or at least recently) puts these facts into place. I know for a fact that most right wing people that I know are out raged by the case, but even they are starting to get 'turned around' because of segments of the right wing media and politicians going out of there way to stand up for Zimmerman, and even recently I have seen some people try defend or limit the damage to Zimmerman due to this comments from the pundits of the world. It shouldn't be a political issue but because of some people's persecution complexes it has turned into one.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Political opportunists have used this issue on the left as well. I've watched MSNBC shows with my own eyes and seen them paint this issue as a "left vs right" topic, even though it's not. People on both sides of the political media machine like to create wedge topics for their audiences. Unfortunately this story became a tool for that machine.

[Sanjuro]

The reaction to OJ Simpson's acquittal was the result of a couple things. 1. Mark Fuhrman. An investigating detective on the OJ Simpson case. The issues with him and his conduct on the case were notable. First, he entered the Simpson estate in Brentwood without a warrant, under the exigent cirumstances that he thought Simpson had attemtped suicide. 2. Johnny Cochran. Johnny planted the seed in public opinion, since this trial was aired over news channels, that Mark Fuhrman planted the singture bloody glove on the Simpson premises. He also alleged that Fuhrman was a racist due to his consistent usage of the word "nigger." And co counsel F. Lee Bailey got Fuhrman to contradict himself on his usage of the word. This made the case a racial issue. (Johnny Cochran was brilliant in this sense. Pandering, but brilliantly pandering.) Due to the hisotry with the black community and the LAPD, such as the Ramparts division, Rodney King, the black community was very suspicious of the LAPD. And OJ, was kind of a price at the time. Heisman winnder. ex NFL great, movie star etc. So it became, an issue of another black man being railroaded by The Man. So, when OJ was acquitted, even though yeah he probably killed those two people, it was the popular perception that they were just happy that a black person got one by on the system. In retribution for past screwings. The perception was the white community's reaction was disproportional in their outrage of the murder acquittal, and that disproportionate anger was due to latent racism,

...and then black people got sick of him, couldn't afford magic dust any longer.

[Dude Abides]

WOW

Hope this guy doesn't get fired for that.