Neuromancer
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(04-11-2012, 07:34 PM)

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#151

Jesus Christ with people fantasizing vividly about this guy killing himself.

I have a feeling this guy is going to take his lumps, whatever that ends up being.
Figboy79
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#152

I think people are misunderstanding black people's reactions to OJ being found not guilty.

They weren't cheering because they believed that OJ was innocent of killing those two people. They were cheering because, for the first time in American history, a black person got away with murder!

Disclaimer: The above was me being facetious.

Anyway, I don't have any particular high hopes of Zimmerman being adequately held accountable for what he did, but hot damn, at least he's going to have to answer for it in a court of law, and hopefully all of his many variations of events that happened that night fall apart around him.

We can at least stop bickering over the minute details, as it's up to the judicial system and the prosecuting and defending attorneys to do their job.

I know what I feel about the case in my heart. I know what I feel about the case in my mind, using the facts present, but it's not up to me to decide Zimmerman's fate. Lucky him...
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Originally Posted by Figboy79: View Post
I think people are misunderstanding black people's reactions to OJ being found not guilty.

They weren't cheering because they believed that OJ was innocent of killing those two people. They were cheering because, for the first time in American history, a black person got away with murder!

Disclaimer: The above was me being facetious.

Anyway, I don't have any particular high hopes of Zimmerman being adequately held accountable for what he did, but hot damn, at least he's going to have to answer for it in a court of law, and hopefully all of his many variations of events that happened that night fall apart around him.

We can at least stop bickering over the minute details, as it's up to the judicial system and the prosecuting and defending attorneys to do their job.

I know what I feel about the case in my heart. I know what I feel about the case in my mind, using the facts present, but it's not up to me to decide Zimmerman's fate. Lucky him...
Come on dog, we have enough problems around here without mentioning OJ, lol
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
Jesus Christ with people fantasizing vividly about this guy killing himself.

I have a feeling this guy is going to take his lumps, whatever that ends up being.
It's not fantasizing. It's predicting based on evidence. We know the guy is a coward as evidenced by the crime and his disappearance.
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Originally Posted by Dude Abides: View Post
That could be a custodian or handyman or carpenter's uniform.

Shame on you for profiling this man as a criminal based on his skin and clothes. soundscream = George Zimmerman.

I'm just joking around.



Zimmerman's ex-lawyers appear to be complete clownish, spotlight-chasing hacks. I would not credit anything they have said ever.
BUT
Tideas
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#156

why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
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#157

Originally Posted by Figboy79: View Post
I think people are misunderstanding black people's reactions to OJ being found not guilty.

They weren't cheering because they believed that OJ was innocent of killing those two people. They were cheering because, for the first time in American history, a black person got away with murder!Disclaimer: The above was me being facetious.

Anyway, I don't have any particular high hopes of Zimmerman being adequately held accountable for what he did, but hot damn, at least he's going to have to answer for it in a court of law, and hopefully all of his many variations of events that happened that night fall apart around him.

We can at least stop bickering over the minute details, as it's up to the judicial system and the prosecuting and defending attorneys to do their job.

I know what I feel about the case in my heart. I know what I feel about the case in my mind, using the facts present, but it's not up to me to decide Zimmerman's fate. Lucky him...
Really? I was pretty young when the case was on television though i never thought of it that way. I was neither happy or upset about the case.
Riggs
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
If he does not get convicted I could see race riots all over again.
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Originally Posted by daviyoung: View Post
Was there any doubt?
Had it not been for the shitstorm of publicity and activism, the special prosecutor would not have been assigned and Zimmerman would never have seen the inside of a courtroom.

There was SUBSTANTIAL doubt until this very day.
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I wonder what he will charged with. I would guess manslaughter, maybe?
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
Nope, no one ever in 195 pages of the previous thread came to this conclusion.
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#162

Originally Posted by Count Dookkake: View Post
Owned.





He will kill himself.
my dad said the same thing yesterday
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
Not for the same crime, no he can't. What is your point exactly? If he isn't tried for this now, he would most likely never be tried for it either.

Oh, and he admits killing Trayvon. So he is 100% proven to be a killer.
Figboy79
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#164

Originally Posted by soundscream: View Post
I wonder if he prefers syrup or jelly?
LMAO.

"I prefer the syrup!"
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
In which case he is...innocent? Is that not justice?
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#166

Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Either way, that's still justice. I could live with him being acquitted as long as the S.P. puts up a strong case.

The crime and outrage here was not arresting and charging him from the beginning. And the stupid police botching the investigation.
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(04-11-2012, 07:42 PM)

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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
We're happy because he's finally being charged....
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#168

This Zimmerman kid better bring liters lube to jail. I almost want to feel bad for him for the ass raping that he's going to get there.
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#169

Originally Posted by Yobalt: View Post
I wonder what he will charged with. I would guess manslaughter, maybe?
I'm putting my money on manslaughter. I think the police fucked up too bad to make a homicide case at this point.
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#170

Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
He will be arrested, charged and, hopefully, tried before a jury of his peers, which is all many people wanted in the first place. Myself included.

I am, of course, invested in the end result - I hope he's found guilty - but this is enough to turn down the boiling pot of rage in my chest every time I hear the name "Trayvon Martin" or "George Zimmerman."
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#171

I put my money on manslaughter in the old thread (which immediately got a couple of posters jumping down my throat) and I still think it's going to be manslaughter. And I think a WHOLE lot of people are going to be disappointed with the strength of this case, unless there's more damnning concrete evidence that we havent seen.
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#172

Originally Posted by Yobalt: View Post
I wonder what he will charged with. I would guess manslaughter, maybe?
It would be hard to convict him of murder based on the evidence alone really, so manslaughter would be the sure result.
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#173

Why would you announce this so early?

You're basically asking him to flee
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Originally Posted by dave is ok: View Post
Why would you announce this so early?

You're basically asking him to flee
I'm sure they already know where he is and are keeping tabs on him
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#175

Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
why is everyone calling that this is justiced served? Did everyone forget about the american criminal system? You're innocent until proven guilty.

It's like all of you guys assume he's gonna be automatically convincted.

Now imagine the flipside. If he gets found innocent on this, he can never be tried...AGAIN. EVER.
Um I don't know what the hell you've been following but people have been clamoring for an arrest and trial.



Originally Posted by dave is ok: View Post
Why would you announce this so early?

You're basically asking him to flee
He already did.
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Originally Posted by hoos30: View Post
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Either way, that's still justice. I could live with him being acquitted as long as the S.P. puts up a strong case.

The crime and outrage here was not arresting and charging him from the beginning. And the stupid police botching the investigation.
That and the screwed up Florida law.

See, this is the difference between this case and OJ Simpson. In Simpson's case, we all 'knew he killed them,' but it wasn't really 100% known. In this case, we know 100% without a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman pointed the gun at Trayvon, shot and killed him. He admits that much. No accidental shooting or anything like that. Zimmerman is 100% known to be a killer. The question is, will he be able to legally get away with murder due to police fuck up and a shitty law that very obviously needs to be scrapped or reworded?
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Originally Posted by quadriplegicjon: View Post
That and the screwed up Florida law.

See, this is the difference between this case and OJ Simpson. In Simpson's case, we all 'knew he killed them,' but it wasn't really 100% known. In this case, we know 100% without a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman pointed the gun at Trayvon, shot and killed him. He admits that much. No accidental shooting or anything like that. Zimmerman is 100% known to be a killer. The question is, will he be able to legally get away with murder due to police fuck up and a shitty law that very obviously needs to be scrapped or reworded?
Yes, there is no doubt in this case that they have the killer. I think it's pitiful that OJ was brought into this discussion to begin with.
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#178

I almost thought this wouldn't happen.

Thank you humanity for not making me lose all my faith in you, yet.
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Originally Posted by hoos30: View Post
I'm putting my money on manslaughter. I think the police fucked up too bad to make a homicide case at this point.
Homicide isn't something you can charge someone with, you probably mean murder.
Neuromancer
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(04-11-2012, 07:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by Count Dookkake: View Post
It's not fantasizing. It's predicting based on evidence. We know the guy is a coward as evidenced by the crime and his disappearance.
It's not like he fled the country right? Or did I miss something in the news? If I were him I'd be hiding too probably.
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#181

Originally Posted by Riggs: View Post
If he does not get convicted I could see race riots all over again.
I don't think so. People always mention race riots but the only time I have heard of large scale riots in the last few years is when someone's team wins or loses.
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#182

10$ says manslaughter.

Unless Zimmerman does a 180 and confesses a murder.
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#183

I'm hoping the Stormfront forums are a festering pool of anguish at this moment.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer: View Post
It's not like he fled the country right? Or did I miss something in the news? If I were him I'd be hiding too probably.
He has "gone dark" but I have no doubt one branch of law enforcement or another has been tracking his movements for days, if not weeks
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Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions: View Post
I wouldn't expect so.

We may get sad faces from Conservatives...but I still don't know why they care.
I'm a conservative and I'm glad this guy is being brought to justice.
Do you always generalize?
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Originally Posted by Eclipsis: View Post
I'm hoping the Stormfront forums are a festering pool of anguish at this moment.
Stormfront? Tell me more!
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Originally Posted by ivysaur12: View Post
Stormfront? Tell me more!
E-white supremacists.
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#188

Originally Posted by Jonm1010: View Post
Some of the reactions to the OJ Simpson acquittal still baffle me?

Not to derail the thread but can anyone break down why there was such a joyous reaction from some?
In the context of the early 90s, after the Rodney King beatings and the LA riots of '92, the LAPD had zero credibility in the black community. It was widely suggested that they were targeting OJ, a popular black celebrity, and had fabricated any evidence linking him to the crime. Therefore, when it turns out that the lead investigator Mark Fuhrman had a history of using racial slurs against blacks, it just cemented this opinion. When he was acquitted, it was widely seen as a victory for blacks against police corruption.

It looks bizarre in retrospect (I think you'll find that most sensible African Americans you meet nowadays will readily admit that he was guilty as hell), but these are the kind of things that happen when your harbor mistrust in the populace over decades.
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Originally Posted by Mammoth Jones: View Post
I don't think so. People always mention race riots but the only time I have heard of large scale riots in the last few years is when someone's team wins or loses.
You under estimate the stupidity of the mass's. Or maybe I over estimate it. Either way someone is estimating shit some where.
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Originally Posted by Ignis Fatuus: View Post
Homicide isn't something you can charge someone with, you probably mean murder.
Of course you're right, it's hard to keep up with the thread sometimes.
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#191

Finally. Now people will stop crying about the situation atleast until hes found innocent and the riots start.
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Originally Posted by TheJollyCorner: View Post
I'm a conservative and I'm glad this guy is being brought to justice.
Do you always generalize?
This is GAF.

The answer is yes.
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Originally Posted by Count Dookkake: View Post
It's not fantasizing. It's predicting based on evidence. We know the guy is a coward as evidenced by the crime and his disappearance.
The guy as a bounty on his head.
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#194

Originally Posted by soundahfekz: View Post
Come on dog, we have enough problems around here without mentioning OJ, lol
Lol. I know, I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Man, that pic of the guy in jail with the "Reserved for Zimmerman" sign: LOL. Even the inmates will be gunning for him.

I'm sure Zimmerman will be wishing they had "got away" when he's locked up with them (hoping he's not acquitted, which is a real possibility, honestly).

EDIT: Neojubei, I was in high school when that case happened, but I was mostly being facetious in my post. I think, at the time, I was happy, but truth told, I didn't really know why. I lived in Milwaukee, WI at the time, and the attitude from my family was "black guy being charged with murder got acquitted! holy shit!"
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#195

Originally Posted by Noise Pollution: View Post
Finally. Now people will stop crying about the situation atleast until hes found innocent and the riots start.
Crying? Really guy?
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Originally Posted by TheJollyCorner: View Post
I'm a conservative and I'm glad this guy is being brought to justice.
Do you always generalize?
are we gonna pretend that the right hasn't hopped to zimmerman's defense and didn't try to expose trayvon as some thug?
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Originally Posted by Noise Pollution: View Post
Finally. Now people will stop crying about the situation atleast until hes found innocent and the riots start.
This post makes me queasy
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Originally Posted by Noise Pollution: View Post
Finally. Now people will stop crying about the situation atleast until hes found innocent and the riots start.
You in for a shit storm.
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Originally Posted by Eclipsis: View Post
I'm hoping the Stormfront forums are a festering pool of anguish at this moment.
He'll magically become Hispanic to them lot, so I'll doubt they'll be that bothered.
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Originally Posted by Noise Pollution: View Post
Finally. Now people will stop crying about the situation atleast until hes found innocent and the riots start.
inb4shitstorm

Edit: DAMN YOU GEORGE
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