[Dram]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...-salvo-in.html

Just as George Zimmerman’s attorney pushes the envelope of accepted legal practices by launching a social media operation for his client, another site has popped up that belonged to the controversial former neighborhood watch volunteer who now faces a murder charge. This one is a 7-year old Myspace page called “only to be king again” that makes disparaging comments about Mexicans. The Web page, which his attorney confirmed Tuesday is legitimate, makes reference to 2005 criminal cases and a brush in court with a woman who Zimmerman called his “ex-hoe.” The Joe G page includes a missive written in street slang. “I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book,” the 2005 Myspace page said. “Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!” Another line suggested his friends went to jail and did not rat him out. “They do a year and dont ever open thier [sic] mouth to get my ass pinched.” The pictures posted on the page including several with an ethnically diverse group of friends. The blog section boasts about having two felonies knocked down to misdemeanors and describes a court battle with an ex-girlfriend. Zimmerman faced two felonies in 2005 for obstructing justice and battery on a law enforcement officer, but the cases were reduced to misdemeanor simple battery, and he was left with no criminal conviction on his record. Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, confirmed the page was his client’s, and that it was abandoned in 2005. Trayvon Martin’s family took to the Web to raise funds and to gather petitions to demand criminal charges against Zimmerman. His killer’s lawyer uses the medium to raise funds, post articles and announcements, and dispel rumors. Last week, O’Mara said he ordered his client to wipe his Internet presence clean. Zimmerman took down his website, a Twitter account and any other social media accounts. Any remaining, O’Mara said, were fakes. But once the defense attorney realized how much money Zimmerman had raised on the Web, he quickly set up a more-polished website with a link to a professionally administered legal defense fund. O’Mara said he had agreed to take the case for free, but reconsidered once he learned he could be paid using web donations. O’Mara hired Shawn Vincent of Orlando’s Digital Marketing Revolution to manage a Facebook page as well. Within hours of the page going up, hundreds of people had posted comments both for and against the defendant, and a few people with fake user names shared harsh opinions of Trayvon Martin’s family. One commenter on O’Mara’s Facebook page said Trayvon’s mother was “mooching” off white people’s money. Within 24 hours, the site was changed so that users must submit comments for review before they are posted. Insults were deleted. About 1,800 people have “liked” the page so far.

[MIMIC]

not sure if posted yet, but i read this article last week and found it pretty interesting. if true, the case against zimmerman would implode. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...-false-truths/

From what I read (and I learned a lot of nothing, really), none of that had to do with "the case against Zimmerman".

"DeeDee" was not actually Trayvon's girlfriend, "DeeDee" had her Twitter account deleted, "DeeDee" was not all that devastated, etc....and then walls of Twitter text that made me pretty dizzy.

[mannerbot]

i take it you two didnt read it, probably since its rather long...but its well researched and documented.

On one hand you see distraught parents forced to face the reality of a troubled teenage son, and simultaneously faced with guilt from complicit failure as parents to provide Tryavon the internal moral compass and value system to succeed. Defining him as a victim helped avoid confronting the mirror.

lmao. You are an idiot and I hate you for 1) leading me to believe there might be some value in reading that blog post and 2) making me give that site a hit.

[akira28]

"DeeDee" was not actually Trayvon's girlfriend, "DeeDee" had her Twitter account deleted, "DeeDee" was not all that devastated, etc....and then walls of Twitter text that made me pretty dizzy.

Don't forget pictures of Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan. We're all just trapped in the media web created by the Martin family's lawyer. 'Not only were they not in a romantic relationship, they were just best friends, and they didn't talk for as long as was stated on the night of Trayvon's murder.' Or something. I hope someone got compensated for all that internet sleuthing.

something something troublemakers and race hustlers. Anyway, I don't see anything imploding. Maybe he pasted the wrong link.

[Big Baybee]

Is this new? http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ice-department

lol.

"Fucking assholes always get away. Click clack."

[dead souls]

not sure if posted yet, but i read this article last week and found it pretty interesting. if true, the case against zimmerman would implode. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...-false-truths/

Why would you trust a site called 'The Conservative Tree House' to report accurately on this case?

I'm constantly amazed at the kinds of sources people will treat as legitimate on the internet.

[Zabka]

not sure if posted yet, but i read this article last week and found it pretty interesting. if true, the case against zimmerman would implode. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...-false-truths/

It amazes me that some white people are so desperate to be "oppressed" because they believe minorities receive special privileges that they concoct these vast conspiracies around black organizations and the federal government. I wonder why it's like to feel scared all the time.

[soulja224466]

From what I read (and I learned a lot of nothing, really), none of that had to do with "the case against Zimmerman". "DeeDee" was not actually Trayvon's girlfriend, "DeeDee" had her Twitter account deleted, "DeeDee" was not all that devastated, etc....and then walls of Twitter text that made me pretty dizzy.

It has a lot to do with it...because according to his gf trayvon was being chased, running away, etc. Which showed z to be the aggressor. If shes fake and you take her story away, its going to be a lot harder to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense.

[GaimeGuy]

It has a lot to do with it...because according to his gf trayvon was being chased, running away, etc. Which showed z to be the aggressor. If shes fake and you take her story away, its going to be a lot harder to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense.

WTF? Zimmerman himself confirmed trayvon was running away and that he was chasing him. He told the god damn police dispatcher in a call that is public record.

And just how intimate the girl and trayvon were is irrelevant. What matters is that they were in contact. I can't believe you're saying someone who was in contact with the victim up to mere moments before his death is irrelevant because they may or may not have had as intimate a relationship as we thought.
Listen to yourself.

[Big Baybee]

It has a lot to do with it...because according to his gf trayvon was being chased, running away, etc. Which showed z to be the aggressor. If shes fake and you take her story away, its going to be a lot harder to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense.

:-/

[TheOMan]

It has a lot to do with it...because according to his gf trayvon was being chased, running away, etc. Which showed z to be the aggressor. If shes fake and you take her story away, its going to be a lot harder to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense.

*reads tag*
*clicks tag*
*nods in understanding*

[soulja224466]

WTF? Zimmerman himself confirmed trayvon was running away and that he was chasing him. He told the god damn police dispatcher in a call that is public record. And just how intimate the girl and trayvon were is irrelevant. What matters is that they were in contact. I can't believe you're saying someone who was in contact with the victim up to mere moments before his death is irrelevant because they may or may not have had as intimate a relationship as we thought. Listen to yourself.

yeah you're right he admitted to following him, but my basic point is that according to this article this whole story about his gf is manufactured. and if this is true, how can she be considered a credible witness?

[Gattsu25]

yeah you're right he admitted to following him, but my basic point is that according to this article this whole story about his gf is manufactured. and if this is true, how can she be considered a credible witness?

Their proof that she was not his GF: In her twitter message when he was announced dead she called him her best friend.

Solid. Rock solid.

[GaimeGuy]

yeah you're right he admitted to following him, but my basic point is that according to this article this whole story about his gf is manufactured. and if this is true, how can she be considered a credible witness?

... Do you have any capacity for logical thought? You may as well say "My pen is blue, therefore axe body spray will get me a girlfriend."

I see no connections between the conclusions you're drawing and the points you're making.

[DY_nasty]

yeah you're right he admitted to following him, but my basic point is that according to this article this whole story about his gf is manufactured. and if this is true, how can she be considered a credible witness?

Does her title matter?

If she heard some of the events taking place, then she's still a credible witness. What does twitter have to do with anything?

[Dreams-Visions]

Their proof that she was not his GF: In her twitter message when he was announced dead she called him her best friend. Solid. Rock solid.

CASE DISMISSED.

[quadriplegicjon]

not sure if posted yet, but i read this article last week and found it pretty interesting. if true, the case against zimmerman would implode. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...-false-truths/

Breitbart ad on top and a drawing of a scary hooded Trayvon at the beginning..... Sorry, not reading.

[soulja224466]

*reads tag* *clicks tag* *nods in understanding*

yeah its crazy to think the patriots could have cheated, they surely would have been caught over the years......oh wait. lol.

Does her title matter? If she heard some of the events taking place, then she's still a credible witness. What does twitter have to do with anything?

well i guess thats you...but when i hear so much of the girls backstory has been fabricated, it makes me suspicious of the story as a whole. its just basic common sense. we will see at the trial though, when all the cards are on the table.

[GaimeGuy]

well i guess thats you...but when i hear so much of the girls backstory has been fabricated, it makes me suspicious of the story as a whole. its just basic common sense. we will see at the trial though, when all the cards are on the table.

so.... let's just assume for a moment that this girl is not, in fact, Trayvon Martin's GF.

What's the problem? What does that discredit? That she was on the phone with him? That he was being followed?

What is your point? Stop beating around the bush with passive-aggressive comments like "Well, she's not as close as we thought she was. Then maybe... maybe we'll get the fully details of the story at the trial..."

Just come out and say you think that Trayvon and everyone he associates with are scumbag lying promiscuous drug-addicted thugs, and he deserved what he got, regardless of whether or not zimmerman was justified.

[MIMIC]

yeah you're right he admitted to following him, but my basic point is that according to this article this whole story about his gf is manufactured. and if this is true, how can she be considered a credible witness?

Even though this is the epitome of irrelevant:

Did SHE publicly ever identify herself as Trayvon's girlfriend? Let's get that part straight first before we start calling people liars.

[mannerbot]

Facebook relationship status:
It's complicated.

[Ploid 3.0]

I know dudes that call their wives their best friend, girls do it too. When you're in a relationship like that you better darn well be best friend material. It would suck being tied to someone that's only a so so friend, or not a friend at all. What does Girl Friend mean anyway?

[DY_nasty]

well i guess thats you...but when i hear so much of the girls backstory has been fabricated, it makes me suspicious of the story as a whole. its just basic common sense. we will see at the trial though, when all the cards are on the table.

You're being ridiculous.

What her twitter, facebook, myspace, and relationship status has nothing to do with the fact that she heard the events take place. She can be one of the Biker Mice From Mars and it still wouldn't change the fact that she was a witness as she heard the events taking place.

[GaimeGuy]

Hell she can be an ex-con for all I care.

[MIMIC]

well i guess thats you...but when i hear so much of the girls backstory has been fabricated, it makes me suspicious of the story as a whole. its just basic common sense. we will see at the trial though, when all the cards are on the table.

LOL....."so much of"? Just because that blog was 20 pages long doesn't mean it made 20 points. It made ONE insignificant assertion.

I don't know why you're assigning so much importance to whether or not she was actually his girlfriend anyway (straw clutching, perhaps?). The fact that she was on the PHONE with him at the time is what makes her relevant.

But before I proceed any further, I would like you to provide me of these two things: 1) Crump calling "DeeDee" Trayvon's girlfriend and 2) "DeeDee" identifying herself as Trayvon's girlfriend. Because in that link you posted, I can find neither. I would hope that the claim being disputed was actually made in the first place.

Fake edit:

I followed one of the links from that blog and it takes me to the transcript of a CNN on-air story. And in it, Benjamin Crump refers to the girl as a "close personal friend", and NOT as a girlfriend:

Ladies and gentlemen, it's really important to note, and you can follow along because we now have the 911 calls. And we have Zimmerman's call to the phone, the police dispatcher. And you can follow audio, every account now. Never, in any account, other than George Zimmerman, this neighborhood association loose cannon, does anybody say that Trayvon Martin was up to no good, that he seemed high or anything and in fact. This young lady details it completely, the tone of the conversation and the nature of the conversation, and what was happening the last minutes of his life. I will ask you -- her parents does (ph) not in any way want to reveal her identity. She is a minor. Her parents are very worried about her. She is traumatized over this. This was her really, really close personal friend. They were dating. And so it's a situation where to know that you were the last person to talk to the young man who you thought was one of the most special people in the world to you, and know that he got killed moments after he was talking to you, is just riveting to this young lady.

It was probably the MEDIA that attached the name "girlfriend" to her.

[GaimeGuy]

LOL....."so much of"? Just because that blog was 20 pages long doesn't mean it made 20 points. It made ONE insignificant assertion. I don't know why you're assigning so much importance to whether or not she was actually his girlfriend anyway (straw clutching, perhaps?). The fact that she was on the PHONE with him at the time is what makes her relevant. But before I proceed any further, I would like you to provide me of these two things: 1) Crump calling "DeeDee" Trayvon's girlfriend and 2) "DeeDee" identifying herself as Trayvon's girlfriend. Because in that link you posted, I can find neither. I would hope that the claim being disputed was actually made in the first place. Fake edit: I followed one of the links from that blog and it takes me to the transcript of a CNN on-air story. And in it, Benjamin Crump refers to the girl as a "close personal friend", and NOT as a girlfriend: It was probably the MEDIA that attached the name "girlfriend" to her.

So what you're saying is, Zimmerman is innocent. Right? </soulja>

[soulja224466]

So what you're saying is, Zimmerman is innocent. Right? </soulja>

i dont think he is a saint by any stretch, but yeah i do. From everything ive read so far, i do believe he acted within the law. i always reserve the right to change my mind should more facts come out though, because i always want the truth.

the situation is still murky, but as more and more things come out the case against zimmerman looks thinner and thinner imo. its sad somebody gets attacked simply for pointing it out and offering their opinion. mods should rename this thread the trayvon circle jerk.

[DY_nasty]

i dont think he is a saint by any stretch, but yeah i do. From everything ive read so far, i do believe he acted within the law. i always reserve the right to change my mind should more facts come out though, because i always want the truth. the situation is still murky, but as more and more things come out the case against zimmerman looks thinner and thinner imo. its sad somebody gets attacked simply for pointing it out and offering their opinion. mods should rename this thread the trayvon circle jerk.

That's not it at all.

You do realize that she could be a man, an alien, a clone Hitler, or even a triple gendered Hitler cloned by space men and it still wouldn't change the fact that this person heard the events which took place, right?

I don't see why that's so hard to understand. Witness credibility would be in question if this person was deaf or their phone was proven to be not be working or something along those lines... but things that have nothing to do with the situation at hand don't affect anything here. Also, even if you were to loltastically attack a minor's character, you'd need something more than facebook statuses and twitter updates - but again, it doesn't change the credibility here at all.

[MIMIC]

i dont think he is a saint by any stretch, but yeah i do. From everything ive read so far, i do believe he acted within the law. i always reserve the right to change my mind should more facts come out though, because i always want the truth. the situation is still murky, but as more and more things come out the case against zimmerman looks thinner and thinner imo. its sad somebody gets attacked simply for pointing it out and offering their opinion. mods should rename this thread the trayvon circle jerk.

Yes....according to Zimmerman, he acted within the law. Outside of Zimmerman's own words, we don't know who threw the first punch. However, since Zimmerman (who is ARMED, by the way) went traipsing after an kid who tried to flee, many would interpret that as aggressive behavior which ultimately led to him being PHYSICALLY aggressive, voiding his claim of self-defense.

[coldfoot]

i dont think he is a saint by any stretch, but yeah i do. From everything ive read so far, i do believe he acted within the law. i always reserve the right to change my mind should more facts come out though, because i always want the truth.

You should stop sourcing your reading materials from Fox News, Stormfront, and other racist sites.

[Korey]

[ruuk]

Or more accurately, they do dial 911, and then they blow off the instructions given.

[ElFly]

Latest news

An attorney for George Zimmerman has filed two new motions, waiving his client's right to a speedy trial and asking for more time to ready his defense. In a motion to continue the case, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara explains simply that he "needs additional time to prepare." The motion also indicates that the state is not objecting to the request.

We are in for the long haul.

[Yoritomo]

That shirt is huge.

[jaxword]

That shirt is huge.

It takes a BIG MAN to use a BIG GUN.

[Big-E]

He is so getting off it ain't even funny anymore. Such a disaster.

[Dram]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html

Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

An unidentified entrepreneur admits he is trying to profit off Trayvon Martin's death by selling gun range targets featuring the teen who's death has sparked a nationwide controversy. Although Martin's face does not appear on the paper targets, they feature a hoodie with crosshairs aimed at the chest. A bag of Skittles is tucked in the pocket and a hand is holding a can resembling iced tea. According to an advertisement for the targets that had been posted on a popular firearms auction website, the sellers stated they "support Zimmerman and believe he is innocent and that he shot a thug." That online ad has since been removed. "This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility," said Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara. O'Mara said he is worried about how Martin's parents will react to the image of their son on a target intended to be used for shooting practice. The attorney is also concerned the targets will further inflame the community. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this case," said O'Mara. Local 6 has been unable to determine the identity of the seller, who had also set up a website to sell the gun range targets. In an email exchange with reporter Mike DeForest, the seller wrote, "My main motivation was to make money off the controversy." The seller would not disclose how many paper targets had been made, but said in an email, "The response is overwhelming. I sold out in 2 days."

[Mammoth Jones]

Sold em out in two days. Fucking disgusting.

[Loudninja]

Zimmerman's lawyer set to get evidence Monday; special prosecutor says the rest of us must wait

The evidence against him is in Jacksonville at Corey's office. She's expected to turn it over Monday to defense attorney Mark O'Mara. It will include crime scene photos, Trayvon's autopsy, Zimmerman's five statements to authorities, witness statements, and crime lab work – if it's been completed – on clothing and Zimmerman's handgun

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1089381.story

[GK86]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

This should have its own thread. Beyond sad.

[sonicfan]

Has this been posted here?


CNN photo: George Zimmerman's great-grandfather was black




http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news...erman_law.html

SANFORD -- An Orlando lawyer said he does not believe George Zimmerman's shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was racially motivated. CNN analyst Mark NeJame pointed to a black-and-white picture of a family of three, including a dark-skinned man he claims was Zimmerman's great-grandfather. He also identified a woman pictured standing above the man as Zimmerman's grandmother, and a small child in the man's arms as Zimmerman's mother. Speaking to News 13 Friday, NeJame said the photo was just one piece among many that led him to change his mind about whether Zimmerman was racially profiling Trayvon Martin. "If President Obama says his son would have looked like Trayvon Martin, then if you look at these pictures, his grandparents and great-grandparents would have looked like George Zimmerman's grandparents and great-grandparents," NeJame said during an appearance Thursday on CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight." Before Zimmerman was arrested, President Barack Obama briefly commented on the case, calling the Trayvon Martin's death a tragedy, and adding that if he had a son, he might have looked like Martin. A lawyer for Trayvon Martin's family, however, said they have seen proof of racial profiling, citing Zimmerman's abandoned MySpace profile, which was found earlier in May to include disparaging remarks about Mexicans. But according to Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, someone else hacked that MySpace profile and added the comments, not Zimmerman. O'Mara also announced Thursday that he will soon get his hands on evidence prosecutors said they plan to use during Zimmerman's trial for second-degree murder. O'Mara said he would get those documents Monday, giving him a chance to decide what the public will and will not see from that evidence.

[FyreWulff]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

Jesus christ. Jesus fucking christ.

[snesfreak]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

Wow...
Just fucking wow...

[Gattsu25]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

Doesn't shock me, at all :(

[bengraven]

Seriously? A teenage kid is a target?

Anyone who thinks this is funny or tries to defend this: I hope you get hit by a car. Now.

[BHZ Mayor]

Seriously? A teenage kid is a target? Anyone who thinks this is funny or tries to defend this: I hope you get hit by a car. Now.

Hell there's a few in this thread alone that probably bought a few themselves.

[CrazyDogg77]

Has this been posted here? CNN photo: George Zimmerman's great-grandfather was black http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news...erman_law.html

Dark skin doesn't equal black. Even if the man was black what does that have to do with anything? Just wondering.

[Aylinato]

Dark skin doesn't equal black. Even if the man was black what does that have to do with anything? Just wondering.

Considering Zimmerman is Hispanic, it's highly unlikely that his great granddad was black, especially going by a black and white photo.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/new...z/-/index.html Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

I am genuinely shocked

[Kettch]

"This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility," said Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara.

Yeah, I agree. Shooting targets is much more disgusting than actually shooting and killing Martin. Awesome job lawyer guy.