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Always-honest
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(04-24-2012, 08:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

So guys, if they reveal Pikmiin and Olimario was replaced by a Mii...how would you feel?

Angry/ disappointed.
EloquentM
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(04-24-2012, 08:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Yenrot

I saw someone in another thread mention an NDA on WiiU games. What's that all about? Can developers not announce games or something?

Many games from e3 11 that've been announced for wii u have not been talked about again in detail since their initial announcements. There are other games in the past few months that have announced wii u support with logos in press releases, web pages (project cars), etc. that have been subsequently taken down. Lastly there have been a couple of developers, Ono, vigil, etc. that have even directly said or hinted that nintendo has been laying down heavy NDAs for the system and it's upcoming games.
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(04-24-2012, 08:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

So kind of unrelated, but when does the 3DS firmware update go live?

April 25th, world wide. (Trying to get wireless set up in my house again before then...damnit, I want folders)
pramath
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(04-24-2012, 08:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

April 25th, world wide. (Trying to get wireless set up in my house again before then...damnit, I want folders)

Not today then?
Crap, I thought it was gonna be Tuesday, and I was gonna stay up all night :/
BGBW
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(04-24-2012, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by lednerg

http://bit.ly/I5V1bt[/IMG] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/USSR_Republics_Numbered_Alphabetically.png/350px-USSR_Republics_Numbered_Alphabetically.png (USSR)

I dunno, just sayin'.

TETRIS WILL BE ON THE WII U! WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK?

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

You're gonna get Wii-U Music and you're gonna pretend to like it

Ha ha pretend. Whatever.
Mr. MondayNight
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(04-24-2012, 08:45 AM)
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I've said it in every thread about the wii U and I'll say it again I hope HOPE Nintendo's classic "there's one more thing" at E3 is Earthbound I think I'll cry tears of joy and the only other thing that'll make me cry is a cubs world series win.

Both are pretty farfetched.....
AniHawk
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Rather sarcastic to boot.
(04-24-2012, 08:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Terrell

Exhibit C: What, you thought absolutely NO GAME ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR A YEAR was normal?!

isn't this console the successor to the wii?
BGBW
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(04-24-2012, 08:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. MondayNight

I've said it in every thread about the wii U and I'll say it again I hope HOPE Nintendo's classic "there's one more thing" at E3 is Earthbound

And two people in the audience will clap.
AniHawk
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(04-24-2012, 08:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. MondayNight

I've said it in every thread about the wii U and I'll say it again I hope HOPE Nintendo's classic "there's one more thing" at E3 is Earthbound I think I'll cry tears of joy and the only other thing that'll make me cry is a cubs world series win.

Both are pretty farfetched.....

claymated world, written/designed by itoi, with an overworld designed by monolithsoft

now anything you can possibly want won't ever live up to this
SmithnCo
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(04-24-2012, 08:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. MondayNight

I've said it in every thread about the wii U and I'll say it again I hope HOPE Nintendo's classic "there's one more thing" at E3 is Earthbound I think I'll cry tears of joy and the only other thing that'll make me cry is a cubs world series win.

Both are pretty farfetched.....

Like, an Earthbound or MOTHER 1 remake? Because I think Itoi said the series is pretty much done. But I would take a remake if it allowed them to actually release it here.

They wouldn't save it for the big reveal though because nobody would know what it is. :(
Terrell
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(04-24-2012, 08:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

isn't this console the successor to the wii?

Even Wii had games in its first year. If you're gonna be derisive, you should at least be CORRECT first. ;)
Gahiggidy
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(04-24-2012, 09:01 AM)
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I get the feeling that if Microsoft and Sony are mum about their next gen consoles at their press events, than Nintendo will in turn hold back some secrets about Wii U.
Gamer @ Heart
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(04-24-2012, 09:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gahiggidy

I get the feeling that if Microsoft and Sony are mum about their next gen consoles at their press events, than Nintendo will in turn hold back some secrets about Wii U.

No. If they do hold anything back, it would probably be an indepth look at the OS or NiN. No hardware stuff is going to remain secret months before launch. Also, corporate spying is common place. Microsoft and Sony know more about the wii U than we do.
Terrell
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(04-24-2012, 09:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gamer @ Heart

No. If they do hold anything back, it would probably be an indepth look at the OS or NiN. No hardware stuff is going to remain secret months before launch. Also, corporate spying is common place. Microsoft and Sony know more about the wii U than we do.

Hence why there are various WiiU dev kits in the wild at the moment. The ones with the best kits are the ones smart enough to keep their mouths shut.
jump_button
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(04-24-2012, 09:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gahiggidy

I get the feeling that if Microsoft and Sony are mum about their next gen consoles at their press events, than Nintendo will in turn hold back some secrets about Wii U.

If other two are no show, Then what ever power and all that Wii U have everyone will say its not next gen and it dont look much better then this

:/ I cant see any of the next gen looking much better to most everyday joe, but if Wii U only one to show it will get a label as unpower what ever they show
Mr. MondayNight
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(04-24-2012, 09:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by SmithnCo

Like, an Earthbound or MOTHER 1 remake? Because I think Itoi said the series is pretty much done. But I would take a remake if it allowed them to actually release it here.

They wouldn't save it for the big reveal though because nobody would know what it is. :(

Not a remake an all new entry in the series I think if it starred Ness people would know I mean look at kid icarus one smash bros and people are all over him why not give Earthbound the same treatment it could work again....
Red Arremer
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(04-24-2012, 09:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. MondayNight

Not a remake an all new entry in the series I think if it starred Ness people would know I mean look at kid icarus one smash bros and people are all over him why not give Earthbound the same treatment it could work again....

Yes, it could work. But. The writer of the series (Itoi) has stated he's done with MOTHER, and chances are, even if he came back, it wouldn't get released over here.
The best chance are VC ports or remakes, but it's doubtful we'll get those, unless they either buy the rights for all the music and shit, or they change it. Option 2 is unlikely cause Itoi has expressed opposition of changing the sound design.

@Terrell:
By the way; I don't like parting on bad footing (or starting on it) - are we done with our little thing? Cause you seem like a cool guy. Don't want to put a potential buddy-ship in jeopardy cause of me misunderstanding.
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Mr. MondayNight
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(04-24-2012, 09:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by BGBW

And two people in the audience will clap.

Because the other people will be throwing money at Iwata's feet....
Mr. MondayNight
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(04-24-2012, 09:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

claymated world, written/designed by itoi, with an overworld designed by monolithsoft

now anything you can possibly want won't ever live up to this

how about Cel Shaded instead makes the fire and thunder really pop.

Originally Posted by Red Arremer

Yes, it could work. But. The writer of the series (Itoi) has stated he's done with MOTHER, and chances are, even if he came back, it wouldn't get released over here.
The best chance are VC ports or remakes, but it's doubtful we'll get those, unless they either buy the rights for all the music and shit, or they change it. Option 2 is unlikely cause Itoi has expressed opposition of changing the sound design.

Money has the power to change any mind.
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Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
(04-24-2012, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gamer @ Heart

No. If they do hold anything back, it would probably be an indepth look at the OS or NiN. No hardware stuff is going to remain secret months before launch. Also, corporate spying is common place. Microsoft and Sony know more about the wii U than we do.

No, I meant secret games and OS features like you described. For example, don't be surprised to hear nothing about Retro's new game.
Kodiak
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(04-24-2012, 09:36 AM)
My guess (still catching up on this thread sorry if it's been said to death) Nintendo wants to put Skylanders to shame with a proper console Pokemon.

Will probably be the first Nintendo console I don't buy at launch. : (
BGBW
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(04-24-2012, 10:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. MondayNight

Because the other people will be throwing money at Iwata's feet....

Nintendo's new money making venture. Then they'll deny that the announcement was ever made.
DrWong
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(04-24-2012, 10:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Hmmm, this is interesting

EDIT
I'm pretty sure it's fake, but it really doesn't seem to be outside the realm of possibilit. The logo manipulation reminds me a bit of the GCN, and it all seems.... very Nintendo-ey.

If Nintendo has to change something it will be the "U", not the Wii brand.
pramath
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(04-24-2012, 10:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by DrWong

If Nintendo has to change something it will be the "U", not the Wii brand.

If they retain the Wii brand, naming it anything but the Wii 2- which flat out denotes a generational leap- will be stupid. The audiences, as they have already amply demonstrated, are too dumb to recognize a generational leap when they see one, unless it is actually told to them in as many words that this is a new system they're dealing with, not a revision.
Mr. MondayNight
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(04-24-2012, 10:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by BGBW

Nintendo's new money making venture. Then they'll deny that the announcement was ever made.

yep then do it all again next year.... :D
Taker666
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(04-24-2012, 10:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

So guys, if they reveal Pikmiin and Olimario was replaced by a Mii...how would you feel?

I wouldn't mind..I never rated him as a character. The Pikmin were the stars.

The ideal solution would be to allow you the choice of using him or a Mii. ..or even allow you to map your face onto the character using the camera ala Face Raiders.
burst
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(04-24-2012, 10:22 AM)
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Wii DS, combining two of Nintendo's most successful brand names while also being an apt description of the product. lol terribad
weird
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(04-24-2012, 10:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by pramath

Not today then?
Crap, I thought it was gonna be Tuesday, and I was gonna stay up all night :/

Don't loose your hope. Last update went live way earlier than expected. *hits update button like a madman*

Believe!
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(04-24-2012, 10:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by jump_button

looks like the out line to a city :/ GTA Wii U? lol Gaf would melt down

I'm still catching up, so I dont know if that was answered...
But the map is most likely Russia I would say – but I would really love it to be related to a GTA on Wii U... (wasnt Nico from Russia...)


Edit: ok have seen it...was answered b4
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BY2K
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(04-24-2012, 11:17 AM)
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At what time was the investor meeting, last time?

And by that I mean, at what time did we get the juicy info?
Coolwhip
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(04-24-2012, 11:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gahiggidy

No, I meant secret games and OS features like you described. For example, don't be surprised to hear nothing about Retro's new game.

Anything that adds to a positive image of the Wii U will be revealed. Nintendo is in a make or break position now, they have no choice.
axisofweevils
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(04-24-2012, 11:34 AM)
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Activision says "No comment" about Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Wii U...

http://www.officialnintendomagazine....ay-activision/

The NDA strikes again!
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(04-24-2012, 11:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by axisofweevils

Activision says "No comment" about Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Wii U...

http://www.officialnintendomagazine....ay-activision/

The NDA strikes again!

Nah, an analyst already confirmed that Activision won't support Wii U, remember!?!

Man, is that guy going to look like a moron soon...

Wait, why as about a game before it's announced? lolwut
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(04-24-2012, 11:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by axisofweevils

Activision says "No comment" about Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Wii U...

http://www.officialnintendomagazine....ay-activision/

The NDA strikes again!

The only COD that wasn't on Wii is Modern Warfare 2 and that's because MW Reflex came to close it's release.

It would be the biggest joke if Black Ops 2 wouldn't make it to Wii U (or Wii).

EDIT: Hey wait, why ask if it's coming to Wii U when the game isn't even announced? We're not even supposed to know it's Black Ops 2.
wsippel
(04-24-2012, 11:53 AM)
I wonder why Nintendo recently broke library compatibility. As of a few days ago, you can't link binaries unless all objects are compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later. That's a rather significant change - not something that should happen at a minor version bump (bugfix release). So what exactly made that change necessary? Did Nintendo switch from IBM XL to GHS? Or were there ABI changes (new, slightly incompatible processor)? And why use such an exotic and incredibly expensive compiler in the first place?
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(04-24-2012, 11:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by BY2K

The only COD that wasn't on Wii is Modern Warfare 2 and that's because MW Reflex came to close it's release.

It would be the biggest joke if Black Ops 2 wouldn't make it to Wii U (or Wii).

EDIT: Hey wait, why ask if it's coming to Wii U when the game isn't even announced? We're not even supposed to know it's Black Ops 2.

SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(04-24-2012, 11:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by wsippel

I wonder why Nintendo recently broke library compatibility. As of a few days ago, you can't link binaries unless all objects are compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later. That's a rather significant change - not something that should happen at a minor version bump (bugfix release). So what exactly made that change necessary? Did Nintendo switch from IBM XL to GHS? Or were there ABI changes (new, slightly incompatible processor)? And why use such an exotic and incredibly expensive compiler in the first place?

What the hell are you talking about?
lednerg
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(04-24-2012, 11:58 AM)
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I forgot how people don't know about or don't believe that there is an NDA for Wii U. E3 is going to open some eyes.

Originally Posted by axisofweevils

Activision says "No comment" about Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Wii U...

In other news, Nintendo doesn't want to talk about the upcoming Zelda game for Wii U.

Originally Posted by wsippel

I wonder why Nintendo recently broke library compatibility. As of a few days ago, you can't link binaries unless all objects are compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later. ...[words]

I definitely don't know.
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BY2K
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(04-24-2012, 12:02 PM)
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Does anybody know what the hell that guy is talking about?

Did he just drop us a Wii U bomb in the form of technobable?
Nibel
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(04-24-2012, 12:04 PM)
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Did Ideaman post his info already or BG? I was at university the last days, hard to catch up
Alistair Roo
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(04-24-2012, 12:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by lednerg

I forgot how people don't know about or don't believe that there is an NDA for Wii U. E3 is going to open some eyes.

I'm actually quite surprised they let Ubisoft talk about Killer Freaks at all
especially because it is an exclusive game
BY2K
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(04-24-2012, 12:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alistair Roo

I'm actually quite surprised they let Ubisoft talk about Killer Freaks at all
especially because it is an exclusive game

They haven't talked about it since E3 last year. I don't think they are letting Ubisoft talk.
DaSorcerer7
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(04-24-2012, 12:07 PM)
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Hmm..sounds like a processor change to me.
BurntPork
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(04-24-2012, 12:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by wsippel

I wonder why Nintendo recently broke library compatibility. As of a few days ago, you can't link binaries unless all objects are compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later. That's a rather significant change - not something that should happen at a minor version bump (bugfix release). So what exactly made that change necessary? Did Nintendo switch from IBM XL to GHS? Or were there ABI changes (new, slightly incompatible processor)? And why use such an exotic and incredibly expensive compiler in the first place?

From Star Wars to Star Trek?

This probably explains the CPU complaints. Looks like this won't be easy to develop for after all.

Originally Posted by DaSorcerer7

Hmm..sounds like a processor change to me.

No, it sounds like a compiler change.

The compiler is part of the CPU.
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antonz
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(04-24-2012, 12:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by BY2K

They haven't talked about it since E3 last year. I don't think they are letting Ubisoft talk.

Indeed. Ubisoft had setup a twitter to tweet updates etc and right after E3 it went silent. Ubisoft admitted they weren't ready to talk but Nintendo arm twisted then twisted again to shut them up
EatChildren
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(04-24-2012, 12:16 PM)
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I look forward to Ubisoft's big reveal of ports and shovelware.
lednerg
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(04-24-2012, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by wsippel

I wonder why Nintendo recently broke library compatibility. As of a few days ago, you can't link binaries unless all objects are compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later. That's a rather significant change - not something that should happen at a minor version bump (bugfix release). So what exactly made that change necessary? Did Nintendo switch from IBM XL to GHS? Or were there ABI changes (new, slightly incompatible processor)? And why use such an exotic and incredibly expensive compiler in the first place?

Someone give this man an account on WarioWorld.

Originally Posted by EatChildren

I look forward to Ubisoft's big reveal of ports and shovelware.

Well, somebody's gotta make money in this industry.
wsippel
(04-24-2012, 12:21 PM)

Originally Posted by BY2K

What the hell are you talking about?

Tech stuff.

A compiler is an application that translates source code to something the CPU itself actually understands. So you have several source files that are compiled to a number of object files, which are then "linked" to make a single binary. Usually, you can compile one source file with, say, GCC 3.1 and one with GCC 4.3, and still link both. You can even compile one file with ICC (Intel C Compiler) and one with GCC (GNU Compiler Collection) for example and still (usually) link them. On Wii U, Nintendo recently broke linker compatibility for some reason. Everything has to be compiled with GHS 5.3.10 or later or it won't link. And that's quite unusual. The two obvious reasons would be that a) Nintendo previously used some other compiler and linker and 5.3.10 is the first version of GHS for Wii U, or b) a recent devkit uses a different CPU that simply isn't compatible with older object files. Because a switch from GHS 5.3.9 to 5.3.10 shouldn't break compatibility unless something far more significant was changed at the same time.
Sadist
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(04-24-2012, 12:24 PM)
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Can't wait for Super Rayman 2 Ultimate Edition
fabricated backlash
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(04-24-2012, 12:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sadist

Can't wait for Super Rayman 2 Ultimate Edition

we all know it's coming, and we all know it's going to be worse looking than the Dreamcast version.

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