[BY2K]

I like to think of the E3 2011 launch as never having happened. E3 2012 is where it's at. If they can deliver a lot of games you cant find elsewhere, cool online service ideas that move far away from the Wii, and really show off the graphical power of the system, I think the general public will do alright differentiating it from the Wii.

Absolutely. The OS, the Nintendo Network, the games, Pikmin 3 will show the graphic capabilities (one of the reason it was moved to the Wii U WAS because of the HD and the better graphics, after all.)

Heck, they said they'll talk about the launch line-up at E3, the only thing they won't reveal is the price and the release date, which they never reveal at E3 anyway.

This really is Nintendo's E3 to win.

[Linkhero1]

Wait, there was news about Nintendo's external hard drive plans?? What happened?

Didn't hear anything as well.

Hey guys, why did my buddy Andrex get b&?

He admitted to being a (future?) pirate.

[Gahiggidy]

Wow, I finally caught up to the end of this thread. I've come to realize that it takes ~3 hours a day to keep up. :\

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I also disapprove of clicky-sticks on controllers. I like the stick to remain rock-solid and find the pseudo-buttons to feel awkward to use. Its a dual use control and your mind has to make that tiny mental switch each time you use it.

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My biggest gripe with the controller design is the small, standard cross pattern of the buttons. Please Nintendo, experiment like you did with Gamecube and mix up the size and position of the buttons. "A" should be the biggest.

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Is there any confirmation yet on what the black IR window on the forward side of the controller is for? For another IR camera or an IR transmitter?

[impact]

He admitted to being a (future?) pirate.

Thank you, your grace

[Linkhero1]

Wow, I finally caught up to the end of this thread. I've come to realize that it takes ~3 hours a day to keep up. :\ .... I also disapprove of clicky-sticks on controllers. I like the stick to remain rock-solid and find the pseudo-buttons to feel awkward to use. Its a dual use control and your mind has to make that tiny mental switch each time you use it. .... Is there any confirmation yet on what the black IR window on the forward side of the controller is for? For another IR camera or an IR transmitter?

If it's anything like the 360 controller then it shouldn't be a problem.

[Glass Joe]

Wow, I finally caught up to the end of this thread. I've come to realize that it takes ~3 hours a day to keep up. :\ .... I also disapprove of clicky-sticks on controllers. I like the stick to remain rock-solid and find the pseudo-buttons to feel awkward to use. Its a dual use control and your mind has to make that tiny mental switch each time you use it. .... Is there any confirmation yet on what the black IR window on the forward side of the controller is for? For another IR camera or an IR transmitter?

It's a sensor bar. They showed it off in the Wii U Golf video demo.

[Gahiggidy]

It's a sensor bar. They showed it off in the Wii U Golf video demo.

No, not the one on the top, the smaller one facing the tv set.

[HanShotFirst]

It's a sensor bar. They showed it off in the Wii U Golf video demo.

I thought it was a front facing camera.

[Linkhero1]

Absolutely. The OS, the Nintendo Network, the games, Pikmin 3 will show the graphic capabilities (one of the reason it was moved to the Wii U WAS because of the HD and the better graphics, after all.) Heck, they said they'll talk about the launch line-up at E3, the only thing they won't reveal is the price and the release date, which they never reveal at E3 anyway. This really is Nintendo's E3 to win.

They can possibly screw it up. There's always that really slim chance. Also MS might swoop the show by showing Kinectimals 2. Never doubt Kinectimals.

[Glass Joe]

I thought it was a front facing camera.

It's both, but I misunderstood Gahiggidy's question.

So you mean the black square from the Rayman vid? No firm info on that.

[Medalion]

Absolutely. The OS, the Nintendo Network, the games, Pikmin 3 will show the graphic capabilities (one of the reason it was moved to the Wii U WAS because of the HD and the better graphics, after all.) Heck, they said they'll talk about the launch line-up at E3, the only thing they won't reveal is the price and the release date, which they never reveal at E3 anyway. This really is Nintendo's E3 to win.

It would be sad if they couldn't win this E3 since the other 2 companies are supposedly not bringing up their next-gen systems

They can possibly screw it up. There's always that really slim chance. Also MS might swoop the show by showing Kinectimals 2. Never doubt Kinectimals.

The ball-tickling sim sequel

[botty]

If Nintendo packs in a figurine with all/some of their first party games... incentive to buy?

[BY2K]

They can possibly screw it up. There's always that really slim chance. Also MS might swoop the show by showing Kinectimals 2. Never doubt Kinectimals.

They can, but they can't afford to. They can't screw up a console reveal twice in a row.

[HeySeuss]

If Nintendo packs in a figurine with all/some of their first party games... incentive to buy?

Justification for 59.99 games.

[ViewtifulJC]

If they bring back that little girl for Kinectimals 2, it's gonna be the conference of the year

Maybe Reggie hired it, though? That will be the megaton

[Linkhero1]

If Nintendo packs in a figurine with all/some of their first party games... incentive to buy?

I already expect them to release Special Editions of their games that come with these figurines.

[Mr. MondayNight]

This really is Nintendo's E3 to win.

Bring on the unbiased reporters who will scream E3 isn't a competition or just say microsoft and or sony had better conferences... IGN how I hate thee

[HeySeuss]

It's both, but I misunderstood Gahiggidy's question. So you mean the black square from the Rayman vid? No firm info on that.

I thought it was confirmed to be a sticker covering a port that dev kits have and won't be in the final version in all likelihood.

[GameplayWhore]

No, not the one on the top, the smaller one facing the tv set.

It was a sticker, but then someone posted a pic of a presumably updated controller which had an actual thing that was probably an IR camera.

edit:

#15100: Mystery black patch resembling IR camera is "Just a Sticker" -Nintendolife.com #15121: IR camera is on the DRC but in a different place (photo shown at #15236) ← note: still could be something else, like IR transmitter for being a universal TV remote or whatnot

[BY2K]

Bring on the unbiased reporters who will scream E3 isn't a competition or just say microsoft and or sony had better conferences... IGN how I hate thee

Oh man, I remember that. Priceless stuff.

[Glass Joe]

I thought it was confirmed to be a sticker covering a port that dev kits have and won't be in the final version in all likelihood.

Has it? How exciting.

[impact]

Bring on the unbiased reporters who will scream E3 isn't a competition or just say microsoft and or sony had better conferences... IGN how I hate thee

As long as Kinect exists, MS always wins.

[udivision]

If Nintendo packs in a figurine with all/some of their first party games... incentive to buy retail and not digital?

fixed, i guess

[Gahiggidy]

It's both, but I misunderstood Gahiggidy's question. So you mean the black square from the Rayman vid? No firm info on that.

Not the sticker, that is more underneath. The black square has been on there since the beginning...

[Mr. MondayNight]

Oh man, I remember that. Priceless stuff.

was the look on Craig Harris face when they said it, I think at that point he knew he was done at IGN.

[Redford]

That controller looks excellent at certain angles.

[BY2K]

That controller looks excellent at certain angles.

It doesn't look that big either. Maybe it's because of huge hands, though.

[Gahiggidy]

I just watched the Wii U concept trailer again and noticed that when the guy waling in th eroom says "Hey, its time to watch some baseball..." he uses the tv remote to change the channel and not the wii u controller...

[HanShotFirst]

I thought it was confirmed to be a sticker covering a port that dev kits have and won't be in the final version in all likelihood.

Well the thing in the back seems a bit off so that makes sense.

[Linkhero1]

I just watched the Wii U concept trailer again and noticed that when the guy waling in th eroom says "Hey, its time to watch some baseball..." he uses the tv remote to change the channel and not the wii u controller...

What's wrong with that? Were you expecting the Wii U Pad to have the ability to change the channel for you? It would be nice, but I doubt they'll do that.

[Terrell]

It doesn't look that big either. Maybe it's because of huge hands, though.

Here it is in lady-hands:

[sfried]

What's wrong with that? Were you expecting the Wii U Pad to have the ability to change the channel for you? It would be nice, but I doubt they'll do that.

Considering they already have that ability for the Wii in Japan, and the Wii U uses HDMI cables, meaning it can theoretically also control the volume and change inputs too.

[Linkhero1]

Here it is in lady-hands:

If feel as if I'd accidentally press the buttons under the RS. I'm pretty sure it's been talked to death already though.

Considering they already have that ability for the Wii in Japan, and the Wii U uses HDMI cables, meaning it can theoretically also control the volume and change inputs too.

I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure if it's possible they'll end up doing it.

[BY2K]

was the look on Craig Harris face when they said it, I think at that point he knew he was done at IGN.

You know, I just re-watched it and, how the hell could the host think Nintendo had the weakest show in 2010?

And the "for the things I actually want" bullcrap was just silly.

The "no awkward moments" when talking about the Microsoft Conference was hilarious. It's like never didn't watched the whole thing. The Kinectimal girl, for instance, was awkward.

Here it is in lady-hands:

Again, doesn't look that big.

And AGAIN, DAT SCREEN. God damn, every time I see it, I'm stunned. If there's one thing Nintendo got right on that controller, it's the screen. Don't change a thing!

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'm not overly impressed with the screen. It's what I expect it to be. I guess this IS Nintendo and they could have cheaped out, so that's impressive.

[Mr. MondayNight]

You know, I just re-watched it and, how the hell could the host think Nintendo had the weakest show in 2010? And the "for the things I actually want" bullcrap was just silly. The "no awkward moments" when talking about the Microsoft Conference was hilarious. It's like never didn't watched the whole thing. The Kinectimal girl, for instance, was awkward.

Kinectimals girl is my hero it takes courage to get on stage and fiddle with imaginary balls and pretend it's a tiger.

[Boss Doggie]

Oh right, could anyone link me that Nintendo Fortress thread?

[Hobbestetrician]

You know, I just re-watched it and, how the hell could the host think Nintendo had the weakest show in 2010? And the "for the things I actually want" bullcrap was just silly. The "no awkward moments" when talking about the Microsoft Conference was hilarious. It's like never didn't watched the whole thing. The Kinectimal girl, for instance, was awkward.

Wasn't it Daemon Hatfield and Greg Miller in the video with Harris in that video? If there are two guys who can, with a straight face, say that Nintendo didn't have the best show that year, it's those two jagoffs. Microsoft's show that year was full of embarrassing moments (2008-Nintendo level) but no one was willing to admit it.

[Aguila]

What's wrong with that? Were you expecting the Wii U Pad to have the ability to change the channel for you? It would be nice, but I doubt they'll do that.

Actually, there is a patent that describes the Wii U controller as a universal remote: patent

Hmmm, will the Wii U controller be able to work on it's own, without turning on the console itself?

Here it is in lady-hands:

Big icons. Do not want.
If I'm playing a game on the Wii U pad rather than on the television, I hope the HUD won't be that big.

[Linkhero1]

Actually, there is a patent that describes the Wii U controller as a universal remote: patent Hmmm, will the Wii U controller be able to work on it's own, without turning on the console itself?

I missed this patent as well.

Well I don't know if it'd work without turning on the console itself considering I only see one power button on the controller and it usually turns the console on as well. Would be awesome if it worked as a standalone remote without the console.

[BY2K]

Wasn't it Daemon Hatfield and Greg Miller in the video with Harris in that video? If there are two guys who can, with a straight face, say that Nintendo didn't have the best show that year, it's those two jagoffs. Microsoft's show that year was full of embarrassing moments (2008-Nintendo level) but no one was willing to admit it.

Hatfield was there, but not Miller.

[TheCongressman1]

And AGAIN, DAT SCREEN. God damn, every time I see it, I'm stunned. If there's one thing Nintendo got right on that controller, it's the screen. Don't change a thing!

Or you know, do change it if it makes it even better.

[Linkhero1]

Hatfield was there, but not Miller.

Demon Hatfield is the worst of the bunch. I remember during the Nintendo Voice Chats at IGN he was always the bitter one. I forgot what happened exactly, but I recall him having a fit against Nintendo.

[BY2K]

Or you know, do change it if it makes it even better.

Well, there's that, but if they don't I'd be okay with this.

Just change the button placement and gives us analog sticks and triggers, please. :(

[Kard8p3]

You know, I just re-watched it and, how the hell could the host think Nintendo had the weakest show in 2010?

I've never seen it. Could you provide the link?

[Hobbestetrician]

Hmmm, will the Wii U controller be able to work on it's own, without turning on the console itself?

Isn't there little inside the controller in terms of tech? In that it requires the juice of the console being on to actually do anything?

Big icons. Do not want. If I'm playing a game on the Wii U pad rather than on the television, I hope the HUD won't be that big.

I gotta think that the HUD will be adaptable based on if you are playing on just the controller or on the TV. Hopefully. Plus, that is just a tech demo so it may change significantly.

Hatfield was there, but not Miller.

Well, he would be the last one to give Nintendo any credit anyway.

Demon Hatfield is the worst of the bunch. I remember during the Nintendo Voice Chats at IGN he was always the bitter one. I forgot what happened exactly, but I recall him having a fit against Nintendo.

On one of the podcasts one of the other people brought up Nintendo (I forget what capacity) but he just went off yelling at the guy that "the Wii sucks" (said it several times) and just basically tearing the guy down for suggesting the Wii deserved a place in the conversation they were having.

[BY2K]

I've never seen it. Could you provide the link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xavIuDbwrCk

[HylianTom]

Wasn't it Daemon Hatfield and Greg Miller in the video with Harris in that video? If there are two guys who can, with a straight face, say that Nintendo didn't have the best show that year, it's those two jagoffs. Microsoft's show that year was full of embarrassing moments (2008-Nintendo level) but no one was willing to admit it.

A number of the mainline gaming media sites are like this though. Post-E3 roundtable discussions, analysis columns, different articles where every staff reporter gets a paragraph or two to give their take on things.. it's gotten very predictable.

I'm fully expecting lots of skeptical "but.. did Nintendo do enough?" and "I'll just wait for PS720" comments this year.

[Linkhero1]

On one of the podcasts one of the other people brought up Nintendo (I forget what capacity) but he just went off yelling at the guy that "the Wii sucks" (said it several times) and just basically tearing the guy down for suggesting the Wii deserved a place in the conversation they were having.

What a loser. I never did like him even when he was part of the Nintendo crew at IGN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xavIuDbwrCk

What a douche. He thought it was the weakest? I like how Craig was shocked at Demon.

[Gahiggidy]

What's wrong with that? Were you expecting the Wii U Pad to have the ability to change the channel for you? It would be nice, but I doubt they'll do that.

I think its extremely important to Wii U's success that it does.

Considering they already have that ability for the Wii in Japan, and the Wii U uses HDMI cables, meaning it can theoretically also control the volume and change inputs too.

Huh?! HDMI allows you to do that?