[HylianTom]

Agreed. I'm happy to do the swinging.

I'll do the filming and put it on YouTube. Maybe put some really goofy Nintendo music over it with Mario sound effects as comical punctuation, just to rub it in a bit more.

[GameplayWhore]

Interesting. I didn't realize that there were actually two big market crashes in the early days of the video game industry. The one everybody knows about was the transition from generation 2 (led by the Atari 2600) to generation 3 (led by the NES), but the transition from generation 1 to generation 2 also resulted in a crash.

I think these two events are good to bring up if you hear anybody suggesting that gaming is dying. We're in a transition period at the moment, and many folks don't seem to understand that sales going down is pretty normal in this circumstance and, in fact, somtimes far worse.

[HylianTom]

Not counting obscure things like Hotel Mario and Mario Teaches Typing 2, I believe Super Mario Bros. Special for the NEC PC-8801 is the most recent game Nintendo has developed for a third party "console". It was co-developed with Hudson which also published the game. I could be wrong though.

Sounds about right, but I'm not in position to research right now..

.. no worries thoigh. I'm sure that there are plenty of folks in the industry working hard to see to it that Nintendo once again serves in a third-party role. :-|

[Agent Unknown]

They were making games for the Atari systems (when I was a wee lil' gamer).

Oh yeah, duh. It's funny because in '88 one of my best friends next door inherited a 2600 with a bunch of the standard classic Atari games and the bundle he got also had the 2600 versions of Donkey Kong and Mario Bros arcade. We had a blast playing all the games (he managed to complete Pitfall which I thought was amazing)

Then the following year (88/89 season) one of my other neighbor friends got an NES with SMB 1 and 2, and Link's Adventure. I'd go over there to play them and I was in heaven, the first time I'd ever played the NES. The Mario games were my favorites, the feeling of exploring little worlds. Duck Hunt and Zelda 2 were amazing too of course. They were a really nice family but I was too embarassed to ask them to borrow it. My best friend however let me borrow his 2600 one week. Popped in Atari Mario Bros arcade hoping that would temporarily cure me of my NES addiction. Haha NOPE. Ugh, the 2600 looked and felt sooooo ugly after that. It wasn't until I was 11 that we finally got our own NES, what a great time that was.

[Christine]

My first exposure to Nintendo was later Game&Watch systems, my second was third party Mario Bros., and my third was the fabled NES with Super Mario Bros. I remember having trouble understanding the glory of scrolling in a platformer when my school-mates were describing it to me on the bus.

[GameplayWhore]

he managed to complete Pitfall which I thought was amazing

Wait. Pitfall had an ending? :O

[GameplayWhore]

My first exposure to Nintendo was later Game&Watch systems, my second was third party Mario Bros., and my third was the fabled NES with Super Mario Bros. I remember having trouble understanding the glory of scrolling in a platformer when my school-mates were describing it to me on the bus.

They could have just talked about this version to avoid confusing you.

[HylianTom]

Interesting. I didn't realize that there were actually two big market crashes in the early days of the video game industry. The one everybody knows about was the transition from generation 2 (led by the Atari 2600) to generation 3 (led by the NES), but the transition from generation 1 to generation 2 also resulted in a crash. I think these two events are good to bring up if you hear anybody suggesting that gaming is dying. We're in a transition period at the moment, and many folks don't seem to understand that sales going down is pretty normal in this circumstance and, in fact, somtimes far worse.

This is why I make it a point to try to choose my words carefully when talking about this subject. I say "Nintendo just needs to make it through this transitional period" instead of "Nintendo's gotta survive this big, bad crash and then they'll inherit the gaming earty, muahahaha!"

[GameplayWhore]

This is why I make it a point to try to choose my words carefully when talking about this subject. I say "Nintendo just needs to make it through this transitional period" instead of "Nintendo's gotta survive this big, bad crash and then they'll inherit the gaming earty, muahahaha!"

Is that a portmanteau of "earth" and "party"? Because the word works more or less both ways in your sentence. :)

[Christine]

They could have just talked about this version to avoid confusing you.

Hah. I actually just browsed back from watching that; it's nicely illustrative of why I was confused. Scrolling was mostly for racing games and shmups.

[HylianTom]

My first exposure to Nintendo was later Game&Watch systems, my second was third party Mario Bros., and my third was the fabled NES with Super Mario Bros. I remember having trouble understanding the glory of scrolling in a platformer when my school-mates were describing it to me on the bus.

When I first bought Mario Bros for the 2600, I for some stupid little kid reason thought I was getting the "super" version I saw in the arcade. Imagine my disappointment when I got home, ripped the box open, put in the cartridge, and found.. Mario Bros.

Thankfully, I got over the disappointment pretty quickly and ended-up spending lots of time bumpin' off koopas and katydids.

[DefectiveReject]

;) and just for the lulz I'll repost nibel's mock up: really is a good starting point. Info available at a glance, as it should be, and it's simple and clean. I don't think it's perfect though, it's a bit off, but it's close.

Judging by the changes to Nintendo's websites, the Wii Entertainment System will have a fresh clean look

[disap.ed]

WiiU renamed to WES?

[Grampa Simpson]

Now they're just fucking with us.

I LOVE IT!

[Agent Unknown]

My first exposure to Nintendo was later Game&Watch systems, my second was third party Mario Bros., and my third was the fabled NES with Super Mario Bros. I remember having trouble understanding the glory of scrolling in a platformer when my school-mates were describing it to me on the bus.

Back in the '90/91 season I saved up my allowance money and bought the G&W version of Super Mario Bros (KMart had it on clearance so I was able to get it for only about 20 bucks) and that held me over for about 5 months until we bought our NES in April of 1991 later that year (I have a crazy good memory for these things). It's seriously the best LCD game I ever played, it had authentic scrolling platforming gameplay, separate worlds and even warp zones! I sold it in the lead up to getting the NES, but after many years I got nostalgic so I bought another one off eBay last summer, wasn't cheap this time. Here's a pic (system was mint but box is scuffed):

Agreed. I'm happy to do the swinging.

No, allow me:

[methodman]

Wii entertainment system??? I love it

[GameplayWhore]

WiiU renamed to WES?

That certainly would be a somethington. I don't know what the something is, though.

edit: It would respect gaming culture while keeping their current branding. On the other hand, both "Doubleyoo Eee Ess" and "Wess" are a little awkward.

[Grampa Simpson]

Judging by the changes to Nintendo's websites, the Wii Entertainment System will have a fresh clean look

About to make the thread. I need a proper source!

[Bagu]

Judging by the changes to Nintendo's websites, the Wii Entertainment System will have a fresh clean look

Wait... wait what!?!

[-Pyromaniac-]

How hard is it nintendo, just name that shit Wii 2. All name problems solved.

[HylianTom]

Judging by the changes to Nintendo's websites, the Wii Entertainment System will have a fresh clean look

"Wii Entertainment System?"

I'll take it. Definitely. It's a great throwback to a great machine.
(and Agent.. I love your gifs. Just so you know.)

[sinxtanx]

WES?

OH GOD I LOVE IT PLEASE BE TRUE

[DefectiveReject]

About to make the thread. I need a proper source!

seems i caught an update, it's been changed now though . . . :-/

[HylianTom]

seems i caught an update, it's been changed now though . . . :-/

Yes, but the important thing is that you screensaved that shit! Hell yes!

Wait a tick.. is this.. could it be.. ACTUAL NEWS?!

[DXB-KNIGHT]

But Mario Party 9 is above Shifting Worlds on Nintendo's site?

[Agent Unknown]

Wait. Pitfall had an ending? :O

Apparently. He said it took forever but he rescued Harry's daughter and when he found her it was apparently just a very crude little sprite jumping up and down. Or maybe he was messing with me, who knows, ha.

[DragonSworne]

Yes, but the important thing is that you screensaved that shit! Hell yes! Wait a tick.. is this.. could it be.. ACTUAL NEWS?!

News?

I don't know how to react.

[Azure Dream]

"Wii Entertainment System" is seems like it'd be even more confusing than Wii U, it just sounds like a formal way of referring to the existing Wii. They'd have to stick purely to the WES branding, and if they do, what's the point of keeping the Wii name... very confusing.

Maybe they're taking a page out of Apple's "the new iPad" labeling? Or at least the same rough idea.

Nibel again (there's only one more after this one, and it's going to be the best one!):

This seems extremely Nintendo to me. It makes you do something quirky with the controller, it'll be chunky and limited in usefulness, and will make hardcore gamers complain.

Again, very Nintendo.

[GameE]

Damnit guys stop posting in this thread so I can catch up, theres nothing to talk about anyway :(

[DragonSworne]

"Wii Entertainment System" is seems like it'd be even more confusing than Wii U, it just sounds like a formal way of referring to the existing Wii. They'd have to stick purely to the WES branding, and if they do, what's the point of keeping the Wii name... very confusing.

No one gets confisued with iPhones, iPads, and iPods all having the same names for each iteration...

Wii U is confusing because it is more inline with pheriphal naming than console naming. plus the Wii U logo sucks!

[DragonSworne]

Damnit guys stop posting in this thread so I can catch up, theres nothing to talk about anyway :(

Wii Entertainment System is not nothing, might be the new name.

[HylianTom]

Damnit guys stop posting in this thread so I can catch up, theres nothing to talk about anyway :(

(j/k.. nothing's gonna stop us now!)

[sinxtanx]

seems i caught an update, it's been changed now though . . . :-/

Could you link the page just so I can refresh it forever in case something pops up?

[Bagu]

Isn't the 26th the day of Nintendo's briefing?

[GameplayWhore]

No one gets confisued with iPhones, iPads, and iPods all having the same names for each iteration... Wii U is confusing because it is more inline with pheriphal naming than console naming. plus the Wii U logo sucks!

Maybe "Wii Entertainment System" is the name for the non-gaming feature set, not for the console itself. The 26th will be a blowout on the extended capabilities, like universal control, Internet service streaming, social media, etc..

[Azure Dream]

No one gets confisued with iPhones, iPads, and iPods all having the same names for each iteration...

You're completely ignoring the fact that they've been numbered up until the recent iPad (unless something's changed with that, I don't follow Apple that closely), barring a few drastic changes to the Shuffle line?

[Error Macro]

Wii Entertainment System sounds kind of cool at first blush, but really, it would be worse than Wii U. Nobody called the Nintendo Entertainment System by its full name, most everyone just called it "Nintendo." Everyone would call the new system "Wii." Back to mega confusion.

If they insist on keeping the Wii moniker, then Super Wii is still probably the best choice.

[GameplayWhore]

seems i caught an update, it's been changed now though . . . :-/

What was it changed to?

[DragonSworne]

Isn't the 26th the day of Nintendo's briefing?

Yes, and it seems like they will be using the briefing to announce new thing about the Wii Entertainment System.


What is the Japan writing next to the Wii for that line item? Usually Nintendo only shows Wii, much like how they are for DS and 3DS in the picture.

[-Pyromaniac-]

You're completely ignoring the fact that they've been numbered up until the recent iPad (unless something's changed with that, I don't follow Apple that closely), barring a few drastic changes to the Shuffle line?

naw the new ipad is referred to as just that, "the new ipad". But Apple can get away with it because of their masterful marketing. Nintendo would have more trouble for sheezy.

[Aguila]

WES? I think it's better than Wii U but not by much :P
It sounds too much like Wess, a real name, but then so does NES.

[shtkn]

i'd rather they call it wii cafe than wii u

[GameplayWhore]

WES? I think it's better than the Wii U but not by much :P It sounds too much like Wess, a real name, but then so does NES.

Could be Ness's evil twin brother in the next Earthbound game.

[DragonSworne]

You're completely ignoring the fact that they've been numbered up until the recent iPad (unless something's changed with that, I don't follow Apple that closely), barring a few drastic changes to the Shuffle line?

The back of my iPhone 4 says iPhone...

[-Pyromaniac-]

The back of my iPhone 4 says iPhone...

but the marketing and carriers referred to it as the iphone 4 and 4S. Apple also does on their website.

[GameplayWhore]

i'd rather they call it wii cafe than wii u

COULD I POSSIBLY REITERATE THAT it does not necessarily refer to the name of the console. As I posted a few bits above here, it could refer just to something associated with the console, like the non-gaming software set. After all, an "Entertainment System" outside the historical scope of Nintendo is basicallyjust the place in your living room where you put your TV and stereo and soforth.


tl;dr: Please talk about something other than "I think this is a great/bad idea for a console name". Speculate, people!

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Why would Nintendo add an Information Release note in their Gaming release schedule and in English language?

[Azure Dream]

I really hate to be the one to ask it (since I don't exactly follow this Wii U thread "community" that seems to be going on, making hype gifs and planning the E3 threads months in advance), but are we absolutely sure this isn't something DefectiveReject just slid in as a joke?

[DragonSworne]

but the marketing and carriers referred to it as the iphone 4 and 4S. Apple also does on their website.

Yes, and the marketing for Nintendo will be "The New Wii Entertainment System!. It's better than your old Wii in every way!"

Done

That form of marketing is much easier than saying, "Wii U, the new Nintendo system! It's better than Wii because it has a U!"

[TheCongressman1]

WES. I wish it were real.